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June 26, 2014, 08:38:22 PM
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there is nothing us devs can do. if this is a fake share attack then that needs to be handled by poolerino. they seem to be the only pool with the issues on sha256 and by default they shouldnt have that issue anyway. stratum uses the diff1 recommended by luke-jr (one of the bitcoin devs) and afaik so does NOMP

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Why can not Srypt algorithms and sha-256 to replace such as x11 and x13 as Asicstable?

This would could solve a lot of problems with the same price.
Who support such a move?

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June 26, 2014, 09:03:25 PM
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there is nothing us devs can do. if this is a fake share attack then that needs to be handled by poolerino. they seem to be the only pool with the issues on sha256 and by default they shouldnt have that issue anyway. stratum uses the diff1 recommended by luke-jr (one of the bitcoin devs) and afaik so does NOMP

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Why can not Srypt algorithms and sha-256 to replace such as x11 and x13 as Asicstable?

This would could solve a lot of problems with the same price.
Who support such a move?


x11 and x13 are not good algo's. They dont solve anything regarding this "issue" (Which realistically isnt our issue its poolerino's issue which they need to solve)

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June 26, 2014, 09:10:32 PM
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All you who think the price is falling because of a lack of marketing are morons.  Everyone in the crypto-shpere knows MYR and markething is not the issue.
My last posts about the issue on the pools is still happening right now.  If 40TH fake miners are able to steal hundreds of thousands of myr for free, then they can dump at any price points and drive the price to these levels.  Im absolutely amazed at the lack of interest showed into resolving this problem which has been ongoing for fucking weeks.  Yet morons keep saying dev tell us this, market that, and even worse morons who pop in to ask if the coin is dead.

This doesn't make sense - how could mining at one pool steal coins from everyone?

Also, if someone is "stealing" coins why would they "dump them at any price"? Obviously they would want the price to INCREASE so they would hold them for awhile, or even pump and dump them.

Finally, the price drop happened over a period of low volume - that looks more like somebody manipulating a weak market, could even be somebody buying from themselves at low prices?
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June 26, 2014, 09:20:10 PM
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All you who think the price is falling because of a lack of marketing are morons.  Everyone in the crypto-shpere knows MYR and markething is not the issue.
My last posts about the issue on the pools is still happening right now.  If 40TH fake miners are able to steal hundreds of thousands of myr for free, then they can dump at any price points and drive the price to these levels.  Im absolutely amazed at the lack of interest showed into resolving this problem which has been ongoing for fucking weeks.  Yet morons keep saying dev tell us this, market that, and even worse morons who pop in to ask if the coin is dead.

This doesn't make sense - how could mining at one pool steal coins from everyone?

Also, if someone is "stealing" coins why would they "dump them at any price"? Obviously they would want the price to INCREASE so they would hold them for awhile, or even pump and dump them.

Finally, the price drop happened over a period of low volume - that looks more like somebody manipulating a weak market, could even be somebody buying from themselves at low prices?


their not stealing from everyone by mining at poolerino, their stealing from the miners at poolerino.  Their not actually mining but they are getting huge shares when poolerino pool hits a block.
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June 26, 2014, 09:26:08 PM
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there is nothing us devs can do. if this is a fake share attack then that needs to be handled by poolerino. they seem to be the only pool with the issues on sha256 and by default they shouldnt have that issue anyway. stratum uses the diff1 recommended by luke-jr (one of the bitcoin devs) and afaik so does NOMP

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Thats the problem, there are if's...

The very least you can do is verify exactly what type of problem it is.  Not what its likely to be, but what it is.  And if its confirmed to be a fake share, and if thats resolved by the pool operators, then the next least thing you can do is make sure that the pool operator addresses it in a timely manor.  If they are not able to do this, then you advise your mining community to stay off that pool and you remove them as an official mining pool for MYR until they have sufficiently addressed the issue on their end.
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June 26, 2014, 09:29:02 PM
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there is nothing us devs can do. if this is a fake share attack then that needs to be handled by poolerino. they seem to be the only pool with the issues on sha256 and by default they shouldnt have that issue anyway. stratum uses the diff1 recommended by luke-jr (one of the bitcoin devs) and afaik so does NOMP

Ahmed

Thats the problem, there are if's...

The very least you can do is verify exactly what type of problem it is.  Not what its likely to be, but what it is.  And if its confirmed to be a fake share, and if thats resolved by the pool operators, then the next least thing you can do is make sure that the pool operator addresses it in a timely manor.  If they are not able to do this, then you advise your mining community to stay off that pool and you remove them as an official mining pool for MYR until they have sufficiently addressed the issue on their end.

no pool operator is going to give us access to their pool database to take a look. that is the issue.

Infact to put your mind and everyone elses at rest. im going to speak to poolerino myself and then have them move to either another mining software or help to fix it. that way us devs cant be accused of not helping to solve the situation.

NOTE: For now can everyone keep off the poolerino mining pool. they are at > 1000% round shares and they dont have a stuck cron. which for MYR looks like something fishy is going on at their hashrate.

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June 26, 2014, 11:23:24 PM
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there is nothing us devs can do. if this is a fake share attack then that needs to be handled by poolerino. they seem to be the only pool with the issues on sha256 and by default they shouldnt have that issue anyway. stratum uses the diff1 recommended by luke-jr (one of the bitcoin devs) and afaik so does NOMP

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This.

The attacks aren't myriad specific at all, it's a matter of exploiting pools/stratums/algos.  I'm fairly certain that I've seen this happen on another coin that launched recently as well.  As Ahmed is saying, it shouldn't be happening if people are following suit with the fix that stopped the litecoin exploit years ago.  The question is whether or not this exploit is occurring because of old stratums, or some new hack we don't know about yet.

The silver lining is that this exploit is happening with myriad.  People will only exploit coins that they either want to try and kill (competition), or they want to horde (cause it's going to be lucrative longterm).  That being said, I don't believe that this exploit is having an effect on the price, it's the profit switching multipools that are driving it down.

Do we have a Myriad rich list yet?
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June 27, 2014, 02:13:09 AM
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there is nothing us devs can do. if this is a fake share attack then that needs to be handled by poolerino. they seem to be the only pool with the issues on sha256 and by default they shouldnt have that issue anyway. stratum uses the diff1 recommended by luke-jr (one of the bitcoin devs) and afaik so does NOMP

Ahmed

This.

The attacks aren't myriad specific at all, it's a matter of exploiting pools/stratums/algos.  I'm fairly certain that I've seen this happen on another coin that launched recently as well.  As Ahmed is saying, it shouldn't be happening if people are following suit with the fix that stopped the litecoin exploit years ago.  The question is whether or not this exploit is occurring because of old stratums, or some new hack we don't know about yet.

The silver lining is that this exploit is happening with myriad.  People will only exploit coins that they either want to try and kill (competition), or they want to horde (cause it's going to be lucrative longterm).  That being said, I don't believe that this exploit is having an effect on the price, it's the profit switching multipools that are driving it down.

Do we have a Myriad rich list yet?

u know i thought the same thing.. Why MYR and not some other coin where this would go unoticed for a very long period of time ... hmm oh that seems reasonable


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also agree with the MP issue. I hope that we can maybe see a relatively nearby update with maybe some of my previous proposals, or latter then expanded upon.
also think it would be a very good move to extend the longetivity of the block rewards from 10 years to maybe 20 or 40. keeping the total coins the same.
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perhaps it may be worth the coordinated effort to implement these and others?

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June 27, 2014, 03:30:31 AM
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Greetings All,

I have disabled the random address generator on the brainwallet site due to some concerns over the implementation (link). I have also added a note on the brainwallet site:

http://cryptap.us/myr/brainwallet

If you have generated a random address using that site, I would advise moving your coins to another address as a precaution. Using the brainwallet site for creating brainwallets, or to create and spend transactions from paperwallets or brainwallets is still perfectly safe.

To be clear, the paperwallets created on the paperwallet site are safe.

I am still investigating this and will update the brainwallet site when more information is available.

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June 27, 2014, 05:28:41 AM
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The android app has been updated.  One user reported a bug and this was fixed.  The "beta" has been removed from the app name.  The bounty has been paid.  Thanks!

This is the manual download link:
https://github.com/HashEngineering/myriadcoin-wallet/releases/download/v0.2.0/myriadcoin-wallet-0.2.0.apk

Google Play will be updated soon.

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June 27, 2014, 08:03:18 AM
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The android app has been updated.  One user reported a bug and this was fixed.  The "beta" has been removed from the app name.  The bounty has been paid.  Thanks!

This is the manual download link:
https://github.com/HashEngineering/myriadcoin-wallet/releases/download/v0.2.0/myriadcoin-wallet-0.2.0.apk

Google Play will be updated soon.

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June 27, 2014, 12:37:12 PM
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NOTE: For now can everyone keep off the poolerino mining pool. they are at > 1000% round shares and they dont have a stuck cron. which for MYR looks like something fishy is going on at their hashrate.

I don't understand why anyone would continue mining on a pool where someone is leeching from their block rewards?!  Why isn't this pool simply DOWN? Could it be the pool op stealing with plausible deniability?
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June 27, 2014, 01:33:08 PM
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NOTE: For now can everyone keep off the poolerino mining pool. they are at > 1000% round shares and they dont have a stuck cron. which for MYR looks like something fishy is going on at their hashrate.

I don't understand why anyone would continue mining on a pool where someone is leeching from their block rewards?!  Why isn't this pool simply DOWN? Could it be the pool op stealing with plausible deniability?

What worries me is that ahmed, the noob behind mamamp project, is trying to cover for the pool op with block witholding fairytale... Goold luck mining at his pool when mamamp is up, if ever.....
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June 27, 2014, 01:51:25 PM
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NOTE: For now can everyone keep off the poolerino mining pool. they are at > 1000% round shares and they dont have a stuck cron. which for MYR looks like something fishy is going on at their hashrate.

I don't understand why anyone would continue mining on a pool where someone is leeching from their block rewards?!  Why isn't this pool simply DOWN? Could it be the pool op stealing with plausible deniability?

What worries me is that ahmed, the noob behind mamamp project, is trying to cover for the pool op with block witholding fairytale... Goold luck mining at his pool when mamamp is up, if ever.....

ha troll. if you checked 3~ posts behind i told everyone to stay away from poolerino just incase

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June 27, 2014, 02:06:40 PM
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NOTE: For now can everyone keep off the poolerino mining pool. they are at > 1000% round shares and they dont have a stuck cron. which for MYR looks like something fishy is going on at their hashrate.

I don't understand why anyone would continue mining on a pool where someone is leeching from their block rewards?!  Why isn't this pool simply DOWN? Could it be the pool op stealing with plausible deniability?

What worries me is that ahmed, the noob behind mamamp project, is trying to cover for the pool op with block witholding fairytale... Goold luck mining at his pool when mamamp is up, if ever.....

ha troll. if you checked 3~ posts behind i told everyone to stay away from poolerino just incase

Only after I debunked your block witholding attack theory. Noob.
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June 27, 2014, 02:18:29 PM
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and you debunked it how? yeaaaa

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June 28, 2014, 11:19:13 AM
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I guess now we have fallen to the bottom of the price.

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June 28, 2014, 01:42:32 PM
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mammp should be coming some time this month for those that are wondering. i now have 95% of the backend re-coded. however as usual theres always more places for improvements to be made. That is why i cant give a concrete date just yet. The only time i can give a concrete date is when i cant come up with anything else to add to MAMMMP

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June 28, 2014, 03:27:36 PM
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mammp should be coming some time this month for those that are wondering. i now have 95% of the backend re-coded. however as usual theres always more places for improvements to be made. That is why i cant give a concrete date just yet. The only time i can give a concrete date is when i cant come up with anything else to add to MAMMMP

You have an innovative coin...
But for whatever reason it's too weak to absorb even 5 BTC/day of mining dumpage.

Since deliberately vague statements like this do NOTHING to help the coin...
So I would guess you're lining up a Big Pump like the last one.

Not a bad time to start trading MYR... too bad the volume is only 10 BTC/day.
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June 28, 2014, 03:54:14 PM
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MYR clone - 12 algos! Smiley
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