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Author Topic: Execoin: | First Open-Source Stealth Wallet Released! | Fast | ASIC-proof  (Read 281694 times)
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April 25, 2014, 01:09:29 PM
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It appears to be a bot on Cryptsy that automatically places smallish orders on both the sell and buy sides.  If you put up a big buy or sell wall, it will almost always put up an order 1sat in front of it.  If you sell or buy into its orders, it moves the orders on the opposite market side closer.

What if we remove all our orders from Cryptsy and switch to Poloniex?
Let Cryptsy play it's games, we won't be buying or selling there.
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April 25, 2014, 01:28:16 PM
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It appears to be a bot on Cryptsy that automatically places smallish orders on both the sell and buy sides.  If you put up a big buy or sell wall, it will almost always put up an order 1sat in front of it.  If you sell or buy into its orders, it moves the orders on the opposite market side closer.

What if we remove all our orders from Cryptsy and switch to Poloniex?
Let Cryptsy play it's games, we won't be buying or selling there.


Yes I think so. Cryptsy made EXE seem boring more than a month... leave now1
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April 25, 2014, 01:38:10 PM
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It appears to be a bot on Cryptsy that automatically places smallish orders on both the sell and buy sides.  If you put up a big buy or sell wall, it will almost always put up an order 1sat in front of it.  If you sell or buy into its orders, it moves the orders on the opposite market side closer.

What if we remove all our orders from Cryptsy and switch to Poloniex?
Let Cryptsy play it's games, we won't be buying or selling there.


Yes I think so. Cryptsy made EXE seem boring more than a month... leave now1
me too!

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April 25, 2014, 01:38:59 PM
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It appears to be a bot on Cryptsy that automatically places smallish orders on both the sell and buy sides.  If you put up a big buy or sell wall, it will almost always put up an order 1sat in front of it.  If you sell or buy into its orders, it moves the orders on the opposite market side closer.

What if we remove all our orders from Cryptsy and switch to Poloniex?
Let Cryptsy play it's games, we won't be buying or selling there.


+1
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April 25, 2014, 02:36:07 PM
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OK here are my thoughts about the proposal... I agree with a lot of what powercntl said and would like to add few more points.

I assume the chief concerns of the EXE team are 1) fixing coin overproduction 2) stabilizing and increasing EXE value, 3) rewarding miners and maintaining hashrate, 4) building a community, and 5) fostering a widespread adoption.

The problem with the proposed change is that it heavily punishes miners, and rewards early adopters/hoarders. If this proposal becomes reality, then rational behavior is to hoard/mine as much as possible now and dump all or substantial part of it after the hard fork when there is a pop in EXE value. I think it would help achieve 1), help short term with 2), fail on 3), and not address 4) and 5).

I agree that coins are being overproduced, but hitting miners with 80% subsidy decrease which will even increase future is unfair as those are the people that have carried you thus far. Why would they continue mining? It would be more beneficial to them to mine something else, and then buy EXE if they want it. In addition, it is assumed that resolving coin overproduction would mean a substantial EXE price increase, which might not be true. In order for the price to increase substantially, there has to be perception of value and utility of EXE, which you will note are both human properties. The more people understand EXE works, the better. The problem we have here is that not enough people know about EXE and as such there is no critical mass to put floor on EXE price. Therefore, even more than 1), it is vitally important that 4) and 5) are addressed really soon, something that has not been happening until now. One thing that the EXE team deserves kudos for are all the tools they have produced to make it easy for people to use EXE, so obstacles to 4) and 5) are not from technological standpoint, it is simply the fact that there has been no coherent plan to engage people about using EXE, and building a buzz around it.

So, to close on an already long post and related to coin overproduction, I think that the subsidy should be dropped to no less than 25, and should be increased once the change in N-factor hits, which hopefully helps retain miners after that point. For example, if the current subsidy is changed to 25, then when the next n-factor hits it could be increased to 30, then 35, all the way up to no more than 50. That way coin overproduction can be reduced, and also keep this worthwhile for miners. And I will also add another thing that I understand might be a sore point with some is that an elegant way to reduce overproduction of coins is to extend the block time. If block time is extended to 1 minute, then 33% less coins will produced compared to now.

Hopefully this makes sense, and I apologize for the long post. I am looking forward to hearing other ideas on how to go about this.
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April 25, 2014, 02:44:33 PM
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Have you also considered the fact that sometime next year everyone will mine 50% less coins due to increase in the n-factor?
This isn't true... everyone will have half the hashing power, so everyone will get the same amount of coins (everyone would still have the same proportion of total network power, since everyone's rate halves).
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April 25, 2014, 03:11:27 PM
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Try to do this: mine EXE & buy EXE - especially when it is cheap (as I do). This currency saves only increase of popularity, not decreasing the mining reward. E.g. doge has reward bonus 250k and is successfull (yet) (+/-).  Smiley
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April 25, 2014, 03:31:51 PM
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Try to do this: mine EXE & buy EXE - especially when it is cheap (as I do). This currency saves only increase of popularity, not decreasing the mining reward. E.g. doge has reward bonus 250k and is successfull (yet) (+/-).  Smiley
Although i also bought a lot of EXE,but few people are willing to buy EXE!

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April 25, 2014, 04:24:37 PM
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Have you also considered the fact that sometime next year everyone will mine 50% less coins due to increase in the n-factor?
This isn't true... everyone will have half the hashing power, so everyone will get the same amount of coins (everyone would still have the same proportion of total network power, since everyone's rate halves).

Yup, you're right, my bad.  Roll Eyes
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April 25, 2014, 04:38:35 PM
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EXE also low hashrate, low exchange volume and a plummeting value now!

Execoin's hashrate is low today because it's working exactly as designed.  People who want to mine and dump for Bitcoin are mining something else.  Execoin's value is that in the future, when GPU mining becomes unprofitable, it will be in a great position to attract the miners who would rather not sell off their rigs.  Today, it's just another altcoin that requires a bit of extra futzing with your rig in order to mine.   It doesn't make sense to worry about the cake being frozen when the party is still weeks away.

I understand that if you've been mining or investing in Execoin you'd like to see its value go back up.  I do believe Execoin stands a great chance of being one of the bigger altcoins after the powerful Scrypt ASICs start shipping.  Until then, the best thing to do is keep mining, holding and buying if you believe in this coin.  Forking Execoin seems the surest possible way to kill it.

At the very least, I'd recommend the developer sit back and watch what happens to Dogecoin in the coming days after their reward halving.  It could provide some great insight into what may happen to Execoin.
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April 25, 2014, 04:40:06 PM
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I understand that if you've been mining or investing in Execoin you'd like to see its value go back up.  I do believe Execoin stands a great chance of being one of the bigger altcoins after the powerful Scrypt ASICs start shipping.  Until then, the best thing to do is keep mining, holding and buying if you believe in this coin.  Forking Execoin seems the surest possible way to kill it.

At the very least, I'd recommend the developer sit back and watch what happens to Dogecoin in the coming days after their reward halving.  It could provide some great insight into what may happen to Execoin.

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April 25, 2014, 05:31:00 PM
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Decreases of block rewards by 1 percent every month?How long lowering it up to 10 EXE per block?

The idea is the reward will be lowered to 10EXE per block _immediately after the hardfork_ and then slowly decreased even more by 1% per month.

that would be great. Are you also thinking about stoping mining altogether and go POS?
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April 25, 2014, 06:15:05 PM
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It appears to be a bot on Cryptsy that automatically places smallish orders on both the sell and buy sides.  If you put up a big buy or sell wall, it will almost always put up an order 1sat in front of it.  If you sell or buy into its orders, it moves the orders on the opposite market side closer.

What if we remove all our orders from Cryptsy and switch to Poloniex?
Let Cryptsy play it's games, we won't be buying or selling there.



terrible idea, you guys really don't know how impoirtant cryptsy is, poloniex has no volume. i just got bunch more exe at 2200ish , don't fool yourselfs lots of people are watching this panic ands nonesense and using it to buy more exe. cryptsy gives us a lot of exposure so please do not leave it.

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April 25, 2014, 07:01:42 PM
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I agree with the dev and think we need to drop the rewards. until we have a place to spend the coins we don't need a zillion more of them. . People also have to see how fast this coin is to realize it would actually be very useful for commerce. I think we need to wait for the mining rigs to actually be knocked out by the asic's before we need to worry about hash rate.
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April 25, 2014, 09:18:40 PM
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I think we need to wait for the mining rigs to actually be knocked out by the asic's before we need to worry about hash rate.
I somewhat agree. But, hashrate vs other nscrypt coins is definitely relevant now.
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April 25, 2014, 10:29:36 PM
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I understand that if you've been mining or investing in Execoin you'd like to see its value go back up.  I do believe Execoin stands a great chance of being one of the bigger altcoins after the powerful Scrypt ASICs start shipping.  Until then, the best thing to do is keep mining, holding and buying if you believe in this coin.  Forking Execoin seems the surest possible way to kill it.

At the very least, I'd recommend the developer sit back and watch what happens to Dogecoin in the coming days after their reward halving.  It could provide some great insight into what may happen to Execoin.

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i've played with bitcoin-abe this evening.
here's the top 100 holder @ block 123750 (2014-04-25 16:56:19) :
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April 25, 2014, 10:43:17 PM
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The reason people moved to Scrypt is Whitecoin that was almost at 200% profitability. Scrypt ASICs are already here and have ben used on some of the WC pools. probably test ASICs.
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April 26, 2014, 12:44:03 AM
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EXE also low hashrate, low exchange volume and a plummeting value now!

Execoin's hashrate is low today because it's working exactly as designed.  People who want to mine and dump for Bitcoin are mining something else.  Execoin's value is that in the future, when GPU mining becomes unprofitable, it will be in a great position to attract the miners who would rather not sell off their rigs.  Today, it's just another altcoin that requires a bit of extra futzing with your rig in order to mine.   It doesn't make sense to worry about the cake being frozen when the party is still weeks away.

I understand that if you've been mining or investing in Execoin you'd like to see its value go back up.  I do believe Execoin stands a great chance of being one of the bigger altcoins after the powerful Scrypt ASICs start shipping.  Until then, the best thing to do is keep mining, holding and buying if you believe in this coin.  Forking Execoin seems the surest possible way to kill it.

At the very least, I'd recommend the developer sit back and watch what happens to Dogecoin in the coming days after their reward halving.  It could provide some great insight into what may happen to Execoin.

Let us look at VTC and DRK,why they did not low hashrate, low exchange volume and a plummeting value?
if EXE do not make changes to attract more people,will be replaced by other coins!

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Let us look at VTC and DRK,why they did not low hashrate, low exchange volume and a plummeting value?
if EXE do not make changes to attract more people,will be replaced by other coins!

Vertcoin is a little older than Execoin and has more places you can actually spend it.  Granted, that's a chicken-and-egg problem, since merchants generally don't want to deal with coins with low exchange volumes.  Darkcoin uses a different mining algorithm and is innovative in its anonymous transaction technology.  The only thing Execoin brings to the table today is an advantage for miners to get in early before the ASICs start killing Scrypt profitability.  This isn't a bad thing, it just means patience and a little bit of faith is required.

You suggest Execoin needs to do something to attract more people, presumably miners, merchants and investors.  How does making the coin more rare make it more accessible and appealing to these people?  I really hate bringing up Dogecoin over and over again, but it clearly demonstrates that a large mining reward and insanely high inflation can't kill a coin if people are crazy in love with it.

While it was nice to see Execoin up on top of the profitability charts on Coinwarz, that really just attracted miners who wanted to immediately dump their earnings for BTC.  Execoin is better off without those miners.  Coinwarz is littered with coins that are barely hanging on because the developers believed "more rare = more value" and it just doesn't work like that.  We need demand, enthusiasm and EXEcitement to bring the hashrate and the value to the moon.

 
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Last edit: April 26, 2014, 03:11:11 AM by suppersz
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Vertcoin is a little older than Execoin and has more places you can actually spend it.  Granted, that's a chicken-and-egg problem, since merchants generally don't want to deal with coins with low exchange volumes.  Darkcoin uses a different mining algorithm and is innovative in its anonymous transaction technology.  The only thing Execoin brings to the table today is an advantage for miners to get in early before the ASICs start killing Scrypt profitability.  This isn't a bad thing, it just means patience and a little bit of faith is required.

You suggest Execoin needs to do something to attract more people, presumably miners, merchants and investors.  How does making the coin more rare make it more accessible and appealing to these people?  I really hate bringing up Dogecoin over and over again, but it clearly demonstrates that a large mining reward and insanely high inflation can't kill a coin if people are crazy in love with it.

While it was nice to see Execoin up on top of the profitability charts on Coinwarz, that really just attracted miners who wanted to immediately dump their earnings for BTC.  Execoin is better off without those miners.  Coinwarz is littered with coins that are barely hanging on because the developers believed "more rare = more value" and it just doesn't work like that.  We need demand, enthusiasm and EXEcitement to bring the hashrate and the value to the moon.
I somewhat agree.But,so many people leave,hashrate steady decline will kill this coin!I just think that must make change!

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