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December 03, 2020, 07:50:48 AM
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Good luck with your bet, I don't want to be pessimistic about your picks...

I had to switch PSG to win after seeing both Mbappe and Neymar in the starting line up.


and it was worth it, since PSG won the match, which was expected, by the way, Manchester missed their chance in Istanbul, and will probably play Europa league from NY, that is their limit, obviously
Brugge won over Zenit, another one for them, after win in Russia, did not expect that, but de Ketelaere scored, which is good for my Sorare team, expect so much from him in this decade
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December 03, 2020, 08:20:18 AM
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Good luck with your bet, I don't want to be pessimistic about your picks...

I had to switch PSG to win after seeing both Mbappe and Neymar in the starting line up.


and it was worth it, since PSG won the match, which was expected, by the way, Manchester missed their chance in Istanbul, and will probably play Europa league from NY, that is their limit, obviously
Brugge won over Zenit, another one for them, after win in Russia, did not expect that, but de Ketelaere scored, which is good for my Sorare team, expect so much from him in this decade

Yes, it paid off in the end. I saw won the yellow cap again for this round, that makes it twice in a row and I'm currently at the top of the leaderboard  Cool

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December 03, 2020, 08:41:36 AM
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Was really shitty to miss the over 2.5 goals in all late games yesterday. I actually bet on Lazio to win, so when Immobile put in that penalty I thought I was back in business. Then both teams proceeded to not really want to win the game haha.

Shame about not betting on PSG. I know they had Neymar and Mbappe on the lineup but I thought United were going to smash it. Even an own goal couldn't help them.

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December 03, 2020, 09:00:11 AM
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Shame about not betting on PSG. I know they had Neymar and Mbappe on the lineup but I thought United were going to smash it. Even an own goal couldn't help them.
I had both to score on United game which passed nice and early. Than I also had over cards, over booking points and red card in the game - wrote about this in "regular" CL thread. This one was a bit tighter fit but in the end Fred made sure I win all my bets on this game.

I am not often betting on cards so I was unsure about my over 4.5 cards bet but both Stake and Sportsbet graded it as won. I am not sure it would happen that way in all bookies. There was 3 yellow cards in the game, and then that second yellow/red card for Fred. I expected this counts as one card but in the end it counted as 2.

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December 03, 2020, 12:30:26 PM
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Was really shitty to miss the over 2.5 goals in all late games yesterday. I actually bet on Lazio to win, so when Immobile put in that penalty I thought I was back in business. Then both teams proceeded to not really want to win the game haha.

Shame about not betting on PSG. I know they had Neymar and Mbappe on the lineup but I thought United were going to smash it. Even an own goal couldn't help them.

Glad I stuck to my guns on the away PSG win but it was risky. Shame I missed out on the correct score by one goal though. Not sure how Fred got away with just a yellow card for that pussy 'headbutt' players seem to like doing. Normally that's a straight sending off. I didn't watch the game but apparently VAR got involved and changed the card but didn't show that in the highlights so not sure if he initially gave the red or didn't give anything as it looks like he didn't see it. If he viewed it on the VAR monitor though I'm not sure how it wasn't a sending off. He got sent off in the second half for a second yellow but looked like he might have got the ball to me.

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December 08, 2020, 07:00:02 PM
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Don't forget tonight's games. Two have already kicked off and looks like two players missed them. Was gonna watch the Barca/Juve games but annoyingly it's not on the German Dazn as apparently the German Amazon have first pick of one Champion's League game per round and of course they chose that one (why wouldn't they?). Gone for a draw on that game as it's hard to split. Will probably watch the Real/Borussia game tomorrow as Real are fighting to go through after fucking up against Shakhtar. Probably go for a draw on that one too but maybe Real should win it.

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December 08, 2020, 07:19:33 PM
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Don't forget tonight's games. Two have already kicked off and looks like two players missed them. Was gonna watch the Barca/Juve games but annoyingly it's not on the German Dazn as apparently the German Amazon have first pick of one Champion's League game per round and of course they chose that one (why wouldn't they?). Gone for a draw on that game as it's hard to split. Will probably watch the Real/Borussia game tomorrow as Real are fighting to go through after fucking up against Shakhtar. Probably go for a draw on that one too but maybe Real should win it.

Lucky us for those two missed ones.

Draw's actually the best value for that game but I've gone and put Barca in a couple of parlays. Juve the slight underdog when I made my punts but I wonder if the bookies are underestimating how good their front two can be.

Zenit's leading... BVB are horrendous, I got a nice pick against them last week but I wasn't expecting them to lose AGAIN... I mean they'll probably be safe as I don't see Brugge scoring two the way they're playing (a rather dull affair playing out now).

Glad I stuck to my guns on the away PSG win but it was risky. Shame I missed out on the correct score by one goal though. Not sure how Fred got away with just a yellow card for that pussy 'headbutt' players seem to like doing. Normally that's a straight sending off. I didn't watch the game but apparently VAR got involved and changed the card but didn't show that in the highlights so not sure if he initially gave the red or didn't give anything as it looks like he didn't see it. If he viewed it on the VAR monitor though I'm not sure how it wasn't a sending off. He got sent off in the second half for a second yellow but looked like he might have got the ball to me.

Kinda given up on second guessing VAR now. I thought it was all about consistency now but there you go with the headbutt. Red card in some games, and not in this. Everyone including Ole said Fred was lucky.

@Trofo: yeah nowadays I see the card rule changed out in favour of "booking points" due to the inconsistency with card counts (red counts as two). Yellow 10 and Red 20 points.

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December 08, 2020, 08:12:15 PM
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Don't forget tonight's games. Two have already kicked off and looks like two players missed them. Was gonna watch the Barca/Juve games but annoyingly it's not on the German Dazn as apparently the German Amazon have first pick of one Champion's League game per round and of course they chose that one (why wouldn't they?). Gone for a draw on that game as it's hard to split. Will probably watch the Real/Borussia game tomorrow as Real are fighting to go through after fucking up against Shakhtar. Probably go for a draw on that one too but maybe Real should win it.

I'm tuned into RB Leipzig  vs Man Utd as well and I'd have preferred Juventus vs Barcelona, but I'm still trying get a streamlink... Leipzig game has  kicked off beautifully too with Man Utd trailing by a goal.

EDIT: It's 2 goals against Man Utd in just 13 minutes

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December 08, 2020, 08:21:36 PM
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@Trofo: yeah nowadays I see the card rule changed out in favour of "booking points" due to the inconsistency with card counts (red counts as two). Yellow 10 and Red 20 points.

It is still not perfectly settled even with booking points. There are sites out there that count red as 25 points and some that count as 20. Do you know how Sportsbet counts them? At least yellow is worth 10 points in all bookies I know Smiley

Lazio was really bad towards the end of the game and they are lucky they managed to get point and qualify. United started bad as well but still a lot of time for them to turn it around. While I was writing this they almost conceded another one. This could end really bad for them, if it does I can't wait for English press. They just love when one of their greats slumbers.

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December 08, 2020, 08:52:58 PM
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@Trofo: yeah nowadays I see the card rule changed out in favour of "booking points" due to the inconsistency with card counts (red counts as two). Yellow 10 and Red 20 points.

It is still not perfectly settled even with booking points. There are sites out there that count red as 25 points and some that count as 20. Do you know how Sportsbet counts them? At least yellow is worth 10 points in all bookies I know Smiley

Lazio was really bad towards the end of the game and they are lucky they managed to get point and qualify. United started bad as well but still a lot of time for them to turn it around. While I was writing this they almost conceded another one. This could end really bad for them, if it does I can't wait for English press. They just love when one of their greats slumbers.

Plus one goal is revoked due to offside. Fu***n Manchester United.

WTF happens on PSG vs. Istanbul Basaksehir, it's interrupted. Both teams left the field because of racism by the referee. I can not believe that this is happening on such a high level.
https://twitter.com/TheSportsman/status/1336409272515760128?s=20

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December 09, 2020, 07:41:59 AM
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Plus one goal is revoked due to offside. Fu***n Manchester United.


expected this from Manchester, it was clear when they lost in Istanbul that they would not qualify for the next round, it is just not enough to have a good match in group phase, you have to have at least a few, to pass into next round

Barca proved that they are really bad this season, but I am really sorry for Brugge, did not expected this match from them, but had 1:2 in the pool, they were good last night, but could not capitalize on that, nevertheless, de Ketelaere is getting better and better with each match Smiley
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December 09, 2020, 07:23:07 PM
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It is still not perfectly settled even with booking points. There are sites out there that count red as 25 points and some that count as 20. Do you know how Sportsbet counts them? At least yellow is worth 10 points in all bookies I know Smiley

Yeah, 10 from yellow and 20 from reds (straight, not after 2nd yellow). So their lines are always from 9.5 in increments of 10, at least from Betbuilder.

Anyway, RIP United to Europa. They needed PSG to lose but they've just gone on a rampage now. Liverpool odds weren't so nice for me to go in on them, and they're now 1-1 from that Salah goal and conceding a penalty, seems like we concede penalties all the time now without actually getting booked.

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December 09, 2020, 08:17:13 PM
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Anyway, RIP United to Europa. They needed PSG to lose but they've just gone on a rampage now. Liverpool odds weren't so nice for me to go in on them, and they're now 1-1 from that Salah goal and conceding a penalty, seems like we concede penalties all the time now without actually getting booked.

yeah, and how will PSG be counted in our pool, I have actually predicted 5:1, and seems that they are calling the game cancelled, it is not going to help me to leave the bottom, but would be nice to have this exact score counted Smiley
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December 09, 2020, 10:26:26 PM
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yeah, and how will PSG be counted in our pool, I have actually predicted 5:1, and seems that they are calling the game cancelled, it is not going to help me to leave the bottom, but would be nice to have this exact score counted Smiley
It will be counted as 5:1 for sure. Maybe they just need a bit of time to change that result manually or something like that.

Inter & United are out of CL. Did not expect it, especially from Inter to finish last in a group with Shakhtar & G'ladbach. United had a tough group and they shot themselves when they lost the points against only week club in the group.

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December 10, 2020, 10:37:32 AM
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yeah, and how will PSG be counted in our pool, I have actually predicted 5:1, and seems that they are calling the game cancelled, it is not going to help me to leave the bottom, but would be nice to have this exact score counted Smiley
It will be counted as 5:1 for sure. Maybe they just need a bit of time to change that result manually or something like that.

Inter & United are out of CL. Did not expect it, especially from Inter to finish last in a group with Shakhtar & G'ladbach. United had a tough group and they shot themselves when they lost the points against only week club in the group.

actually, I had some money on Brugge and Shakhtar to pass-through, similar stories, they both needed a win in Italy, and I expected one to pass through, more on Shakhtar than Brugge, but anyway

just look at Shakhtar, they have two wins over Real, two draws with Inter, and two loses from M'Gladbach, with ten goals conceived from M'Gladbach in two matches, isn't that strange or what? and for me, Shakhtar is better than Inter and M'Gladbach, Real is just did not get into right shape at the moment

edit: yeah, PSG score was counted as it is
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December 10, 2020, 11:16:22 AM
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Lol wooden spoon this week for me (though was technically joint with trofo). Bit weird how those that don't make any picks and get zero don't get it.

How the hell did Man United get a penalty given even after a VAR check in the game on Tuesday? At first it did actually look like a penalty and a correct decision by the ref but with the VAR replays it was quite clear that the United player knocked them both down with a shoulder barge. Some shenanigans seemed to be going on there to try give Man United a lifeline: https://youtu.be/VqbNzV8OVPA?t=299



WTF happens on PSG vs. Istanbul Basaksehir, it's interrupted. Both teams left the field because of racism by the referee. I can not believe that this is happening on such a high level.
https://twitter.com/TheSportsman/status/1336409272515760128?s=20

From what I saw from the footage the player was complaining that the fourth official referred to him (or someone else) as "the black player", which if that was it then it's obviously silly, unless he takes issue with the Black in Black Lives Matter too:



I saw some people mention that they're might have been some confusion over whether the assistant might have said 'negru' which is apparently 'black' in Romanian which he might have misunderstood and taken offense to.

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December 10, 2020, 01:01:43 PM
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From what I saw from the footage the player was complaining that the fourth official referred to him (or someone else) as "the black player", which if that was it then it's obviously silly, unless he takes issue with the Black in Black Lives Matter too:

I saw some people mention that they're might have been some confusion over whether the assistant might have said 'negru' which is apparently 'black' in Romanian which he might have misunderstood and taken offense to.

It seems a little more complicated. Each medal has two sides and all this gets new details. the Romanian refs claim Webo called them 'gipsy', maybe that was enough of a provocation. Football journalist from Romania Emanuel Roşu posted about this on his Twitter.

https://twitter.com/Emishor/status/1336658828205699073?s=20

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December 10, 2020, 01:11:28 PM
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yeah, and how will PSG be counted in our pool, I have actually predicted 5:1, and seems that they are calling the game cancelled, it is not going to help me to leave the bottom, but would be nice to have this exact score counted Smiley

Some balls on you my friend, well done on that. I've got them to lose their next domestic game against Lyon so I'm "happy" they blew off all this steam, hope it flattens them on the weekend haha.

@hilarious Varchester United for sure, I'm avoiding wooden spoons but not exactly topping the charts meself.

Also, watched the video, and it does seem Demba's asking why he used a word that does sound like "negru". Reminds me of Suarez using a similar word, all of which means black anyway. In Malay, they still say "black skinned" which is probably going to get an official in trouble some day. I won't say my views but in this day and age, you really can't afford to be that naive.

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December 10, 2020, 10:06:08 PM
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It is still not perfectly settled even with booking points. There are sites out there that count red as 25 points and some that count as 20. Do you know how Sportsbet counts them? At least yellow is worth 10 points in all bookies I know Smiley

Yeah, 10 from yellow and 20 from reds (straight, not after 2nd yellow). So their lines are always from 9.5 in increments of 10, at least from Betbuilder.
I just checked booking points market and cards market on Sportsbet and you are wrong. Red card is worth 25 booking points or 2 cards, you are correct that second yellow is not counted. Therefore when one players gets second yellow red card he has actually collected 35 booking points or 3 cards depending on the market.

I was checking it today since a guy Spurs bench got a card (not player) and I wanted to see if it counts (it does not) and then I remembered our conversation.

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Booking Markets

Yellow card counts as 1 card and red or yellow-red card as 2. The 2nd yellow for one player which leads to a yellow red card is not considered. As a consequence one player cannot cause more than 3 cards.
Settlement will be made according to all available evidence of cards shown during the regular 90 minutes play.
Cards shown after the match are not considered.
Cards for non-players (already substituted players, managers, players on bench) are not considered.

Booking points markets

Yellow card counts as 10 points and red or yellow red cards as 25.
The 2nd yellow for one player which leads to a yellow red card is not considered. As a consequence one player cannot cause more than 35 booking points
Settlement will be made according to all available evidence for cards shown during the regular 90 minutes play.
Cards shown after the match are not considered.
Cards for non-players (already substituted players, managers, players on bench)are not considered.

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February 15, 2021, 10:29:35 AM
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Been a while. Looking forward to see Liverpool shrug off EPL woes and do well in this competition, I'm pretty sure Real and Barca will feel exactly the same. Even Chelsea. Redemption for one team, but Bayern still the clear favourites, along with Citeh.

Put your picks in boys. Domestic league form change your minds yet?

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