Is Mark Karpeles Jewish? [serious]

[itsunderstood]

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oh wow, could you believe it? MK even had the balls to accept fiat deposits knowing that there was nothing coming out of his shitty platform anymore.. ^^

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Yep.  Total, blatant, in your face stealing.  Anyway, renf allowed me to fill this thread with facts while he danced around like a clown.  Yes he also PM'd me but nothing threatening.  Threats are so weak, and in fact, tribes are also weak.  Being a lone individual and having a code of honor that doesn't require 100,000 priests to spell it out for you, is what matters far more than glomming up with some douchetribe of any stripe.

Sure there's strength in numbers but there's also massive cowardice in numbers.  I mean all tribes of all stripes who had members killed in WW2, not just judaists.  All humans dead in WW2 are worth the same, no corpse is worth more because of his or her tribe, which didn't save them anyway.  Tribes are mostly horseshit.  But not being a shitty thief, will bring you friends and allies no matter what your God is.

[itsunderstood]

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2014/03/23/355768/zionism-flies-in-face-of-judaism-rabbi/

Good rabbi above discusses stealing and thievery, which is forbidden by Torah.  It's a shame that he has to go to press.tv since US comms channels won't carry rational Judaists like him.

So, it is also a usurpation of Moses, if you will.  I would gladly interview Mark K. at any time, so he can clarify what he believes about Moses.  Indeed MK could become the biggest french rabbi ever.  It's a thought to consider, if he did write the words above.  He could be a good rabbi like the one above.  He would have to come clean about how they managed to leave 200k to be found later, also why did he take fiat when he knew his ship was sinking?

See, it's not about cultures really, it's about thievery.  Like how renf tried to associate conspiracy with "lizard people", because, to deal directly with truth, is difficult for him.  But, we are talking about a newly minted State, which supposedly purchased submarines from the very country which supposedly oppressed them 40 years ago?  WAR REPARATIONS are also part of the scam/racket which Smedley Butler identified.  I would point to Adenaur as the one who most directly observed WW2 and then took over to make war-reparations over decades, to Israel State of.

Anyway, who knew a Magic the Gathering site would become the religious discussion, but how often does a CEO of such a beached whale, gift us with his thoughts on Moses and such?  Let us find out if he really believes what we have read above.  If these are his words, let him claim them.

[MrPiggles]

http://consciouslifenews.com/paid-internet-shill-shadowy-groups-manipulate-internet-opinion-debate/1147073/#

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Doesn't remind me of anyone

[itsunderstood]

http://consciouslifenews.com/paid-internet-shill-shadowy-groups-manipulate-internet-opinion-debate/1147073/#

Post about someone paid to derail online forums and bring up anti-semitism whenever he can.


Doesn't remind me of anyone

Awesome link.  I have a significant amount of original work at ATS database, but I guess they own some part of my words there?    Anyway yes it, and all forums, are steered by personalities.

But the real question, is, are you a controlled-by-group personality, or a controlled-by-self personality?  Because, human hands can be held by other minds, as in the case of Mark K. above, we see he is clearly steeped in those who raised him and their deep knowledge of whatever.

But, then there is the man who stands on his own.  Let us say, either the group-mind persona, or the single-mind persona, can do good or bad.  You can have a group like the Raelians, looking like wackjobs, but still doing nice things like fighting female genital mutilation and other scary bullshit rituals from the ancestors of todays priest/mullah/rabbi.

ATS knows me, GLP knows me 100% certain, and so does LOP, the Dutch twin of GLP.  As I have said before: Conspiracy is the ocean which the entire world floats upon.

There is no 'theory' to conspiracy, it is easily observable at the highest levels, when one does even a cursory examination of the events of the last 100 years since 1914.  Complete puppetry of nations and utter douchebaggery, by the richest houses of Earth.  RESULT: State of Israel + 1 billion dead bodypile + Germany dialectic (rending-repairing) to militarily feel bad and give big-weapons (and the French give nukes of course) to the new mewling supposedly 3000 years old infant called Israel.  BUT it is not right to isolate Israel because it is about false fronts and crypto-religion.

Armageddon is something long worked for since 1914 and well prior to that.  As Charles Russel of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society said "If we do not get enough rich Jews into Palestine. we may not be able to get Armageddon going!"  ...I have an ATS thread which explains all of this, long since abandoned by me since I understood what ATS was.

Oh Internets, is there nothing you cannot shine light into?  Yes, even the last 100 years becomes clearer every day we move forward in time.  Technology (like TCPIP) is like giving the Hubble telescope to researchers.  Basically, once the IP network and HTML came together, there was no way you were ever going to save the old lies.  That is why Rockefeller, in spite of all his own sacrifices, was blindsided by the Internet and says "We should never have allowed it to come into being."  Hopefully he weeps in his hatred of it, as he sees it will render not just Rothschild unto the light, but all the families that orbit them, Rockefeller, Collins, Li, Onassis, Gump, etc, I can't remember all their names.  But anyway, all these families that ran and participated in the WW2 minting gold from blood, as WW2 was simply a mint, run by all of these families, and forged in blood, will simply be like vampires dragged out on a nice warm Summer day.  Whatever happens to them in sunlight, is as nature intended.

[btcusury]

Some people on this thread truly deserve to be on the SWC list.

oh wow.. you even have an annual list?

I wish we had one to hunt down antisemites like you, I can guarantee you'd be on that list.

The reason why you keep shouting all over the web about your insane farfetched conspiracy theories is because there's actually no one to make you pay the consequences of your actions.
It'll be far more quiet when people like you will start being hunted until they're found and prosecuted for severe misdemeanor.

Thank you for proving exactly what I'm saying. You are a violent thug who feels entitled to something that others don't, just because you are a Jew.

So now fighting antisemitism is being violent?
How do you respond if someone attacks you?
You prove my point, antisemites can only sustain their ideology through lie and deceit.
Now they turn the situation around, antisemites are nice fellows and those who denounce antisemitism are violent and dangerous.

I didn't turn anything around, the facts are there in plain words. You're a human being who feels justified in labeling others "evil, insane, irrational" and then use that judgment to justify "hunting them down" and "making them pay" for "thought crimes", completely disregarding the concept of the human right to free speech. Even if what is being said were not true, you'd still be a violent thug.

Do you know why some people in certain lower-income places decide to join neo-Nazi/white supremacist groups? It's because they are violent thugs, like you. They adopt Nazi symbolism because of its image, not because they know the first thing about National Socialism. They believe all the lies told by the victors of the Second World War, like almost everyone else, including you. Likewise, you know much less about Judaism and Jewish behavior than you think.

Take a pause to look at who is saying what here. Perhaps look at yourself in the mirror. It's there that you'll find hate, not in these words.

Theorically, Israel should have been created only after the Messiah returns and Jews would have had waited for that moment. However you gave Jews no choice but to create it.

So you're a Zionist by necessity rather than ideology? I guess you think Neturei Karta (presstv link above) are dangerous self-hating anti-Semites because they took scripture more seriously than your family? LOL.

And stop turning the situation around again, you're just victimizing the actual attackers. Typical liberal bias.

You are clearly the actual attacker. Nobody is hurt by words on a screen. You are advocating the physical action of depriving someone of their freedom. You also wrote a threatening PM to hdbuck. Typical Jewish behavior.

Reminder to all antisemites : the whole world will fall after Israel starts falling, the IDF is one of the strongest armies of the world, you stand no chance  

Please answer this: Do you support the Samson Option?

Ever saw antisemites creating topics warning us of evil Jews and their zionist domination plan? YES, plenty of times.

On this forum? Where? Point me to it!

"It's useless to publicly post my messages, what do you expect?
These aren't threats but a concrete action against words legally condemned.
I have already worked at the SPCJ to defend jews from antisemites, i can guaranty that we are going to investigate you.
Tor, VPN, foreign websites, its useless, we will find you, its just a matter of time.

Wow, google SPCJ and what do you find? "Lettre du Président du SPCJ – Éric de Rothschild"! Apparently it's the ADL of France. So this pathetic little thug, renfr, is an Abe Foxman wannabe.

I bet you were sent as a child to the reconstructed Auschwitz concentration camp to be traumatized for life, as depicted in Yoav Shamir's documentary Defamation. This insanity is what ingrains the Jewish persecution complex into children's psyches for creeps like Abe Foxman to exploit.

Is that you Daniel Burros?

Oooh how interesting, you know about racist Jews posing as fake neo-Nazis. Surely you know about Frank Collin (Cohen), the Jew who headed the American Nazi Party and allowed the media and Hollywood to generate an unprecedented degree of sympathy for Jewish victims of the Second World War, to the point where "Holocaust" victims became more important than the fallen US soldiers who supposedly fought to liberate the Jews from the Nazis. Does your SPCJ group send young Jews like you to pose as white supremacist nationalists and create French neo-Nazi groups in order to discredit nationalism and anti-Zionism in France? Or do you stick to hasbara efforts? Or is the former a more advanced position/mission you are aspiring to?

Everyone there would be offended if someone was to say that if a blackman robbed is because he's black however no one except me and a few others seem to be shocked when it concerns a Jew.
This, is what I call double sandards and it confirms the growing trend of antisemitism over false rumors and lies being spread.

If you're a Jew then wake up, you seem to ignore the warnings that were issued to you and you will end up regretting it.

Warning! Warning! Fear! Fear! If you're a Jew, they're coming for you, so come to uss, ve'll protect you against the efil antiseemites! Nefer again!

You know renfr, if you defined yourself as a human being, then "your people" would be all human beings. When you define "your people" as a small subset of the human race who are locked into a collective fear of "the others" (a pre-traumatic stress disorder, as Gilad Atzmon put it), then you are promoting and attracting precisely the kind of situation you believe you are fighting against.

The situation doesn't exist, it's only in your head, to borrow your phrase. What you see as "antisemitism" is people pointing out detrimental Jewish behavior such as yours.


Folks, what's with the call for mods/censorship? Let renfr spew his hate as much as he wants here. They are just words on a screen. Better to put that energy into text rather than physical action in the form of harassment of French people who dare think outside the Jewish box.

[leopard2]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

All one needs to know about Jews.

[renfr]

Some people on this thread truly deserve to be on the SWC list.

oh wow.. you even have an annual list?

I wish we had one to hunt down antisemites like you, I can guarantee you'd be on that list.

The reason why you keep shouting all over the web about your insane farfetched conspiracy theories is because there's actually no one to make you pay the consequences of your actions.
It'll be far more quiet when people like you will start being hunted until they're found and prosecuted for severe misdemeanor.

Thank you for proving exactly what I'm saying. You are a violent thug who feels entitled to something that others don't, just because you are a Jew.

So now fighting antisemitism is being violent?
How do you respond if someone attacks you?
You prove my point, antisemites can only sustain their ideology through lie and deceit.
Now they turn the situation around, antisemites are nice fellows and those who denounce antisemitism are violent and dangerous.

I didn't turn anything around, the facts are there in plain words. You're a human being who feels justified in labeling others "evil, insane, irrational" and then use that judgment to justify "hunting them down" and "making them pay" for "thought crimes", completely disregarding the concept of the human right to free speech. Even if what is being said were not true, you'd still be a violent thug.

Do you know why some people in certain lower-income places decide to join neo-Nazi/white supremacist groups? It's because they are violent thugs, like you. They adopt Nazi symbolism because of its image, not because they know the first thing about National Socialism. They believe all the lies told by the victors of the Second World War, like almost everyone else, including you. Likewise, you know much less about Judaism and Jewish behavior than you think.

Take a pause to look at who is saying what here. Perhaps look at yourself in the mirror. It's there that you'll find hate, not in these words.

Theorically, Israel should have been created only after the Messiah returns and Jews would have had waited for that moment. However you gave Jews no choice but to create it.

So you're a Zionist by necessity rather than ideology? I guess you think Neturei Karta (presstv link above) are dangerous self-hating anti-Semites because they took scripture more seriously than your family? LOL.

And stop turning the situation around again, you're just victimizing the actual attackers. Typical liberal bias.

You are clearly the actual attacker. Nobody is hurt by words on a screen. You are advocating the physical action of depriving someone of their freedom. You also wrote a threatening PM to hdbuck. Typical Jewish behavior.

Reminder to all antisemites : the whole world will fall after Israel starts falling, the IDF is one of the strongest armies of the world, you stand no chance  

Please answer this: Do you support the Samson Option?

Ever saw antisemites creating topics warning us of evil Jews and their zionist domination plan? YES, plenty of times.

On this forum? Where? Point me to it!

"It's useless to publicly post my messages, what do you expect?
These aren't threats but a concrete action against words legally condemned.
I have already worked at the SPCJ to defend jews from antisemites, i can guaranty that we are going to investigate you.
Tor, VPN, foreign websites, its useless, we will find you, its just a matter of time.

Wow, google SPCJ and what do you find? "Lettre du Président du SPCJ – Éric de Rothschild"! Apparently it's the ADL of France. So this pathetic little thug, renfr, is an Abe Foxman wannabe.

I bet you were sent as a child to the reconstructed Auschwitz concentration camp to be traumatized for life, as depicted in Yoav Shamir's documentary Defamation. This insanity is what ingrains the Jewish persecution complex into children's psyches for creeps like Abe Foxman to exploit.

Is that you Daniel Burros?

Oooh how interesting, you know about racist Jews posing as fake neo-Nazis. Surely you know about Frank Collin (Cohen), the Jew who headed the American Nazi Party and allowed the media and Hollywood to generate an unprecedented degree of sympathy for Jewish victims of the Second World War, to the point where "Holocaust" victims became more important than the fallen US soldiers who supposedly fought to liberate the Jews from the Nazis. Does your SPCJ group send young Jews like you to pose as white supremacist nationalists and create French neo-Nazi groups do discredit nationalism and anti-Zionism? Or do you stick to hasbara efforts? Or is the former a more advanced position/mission you are aspiring to?

Everyone there would be offended if someone was to say that if a blackman robbed is because he's black however no one except me and a few others seem to be shocked when it concerns a Jew.
This, is what I call double sandards and it confirms the growing trend of antisemitism over false rumors and lies being spread.

If you're a Jew then wake up, you seem to ignore the warnings that were issued to you and you will end up regretting it.

Warning! Warning! Fear! Fear! If you're a Jew, they're coming for you, so come to uss, ve'll protect you against the efil antiseemites! Nefer again!

You know renfr, if you defined yourself as a human being, then "your people" would be all human beings. When you define "your people" as a small subset of the human race who are locked into a collective fear of "the others" (a pre-traumatic stress disorder, as Gilad Atzmon put it), then you are promoting and attracting precisely the kind of situation you believe you are fighting against.

The situation doesn't exist, it's only in your head, to borrow your phrase. What you see as "antisemitism" is people pointing out detrimental Jewish behavior such as yours.


Folks, what's with the call for mods/censorship? Let renfr spew his hate as much as he wants here. They are just words on a screen. Better to put that energy into text rather than physical action in the form of harassment of French people who dare think outside the Jewish box.

http://consciouslifenews.com/paid-internet-shill-shadowy-groups-manipulate-internet-opinion-debate/1147073/#

Post about someone paid to derail online forums and bring up anti-semitism whenever he can.


Doesn't remind me of anyone

I am not paid.
Also where did I bring antisemitism everywhere on the forum? AFAIK I only brought it up when filth like you started saying that if Mark is a thief it's because he's a Jew.

please someone ban this hating dumbass fuck who's clearly on a divine mission to clear the Earth from ill-minded antisemites.
NO ONE CARES ABOUT YOU OR YOUR BELLIGERANT CAUSE/PROPAGANDA.
*ignore

edit: renfr i dont like you, and I can assure you that it has nothing to do with you being jewish (i have a lot of jewish friends - hell, i even have dated a jewish girl oh and i want to visit Isreal to see this Mystic place we've been talking about for the last 2000 years and check how things are going on there too).
And I dont like Mark either, his writings just showed how pathetic he is (just like our fellow renfr here: all about little vendettas and no peaceful way of thinking), and that it should be seen no mercy for his misbehavior regarding Gox's heist since he clearly just owned you, big time - oh wow, could you believe it? MK even had the balls to accept fiat deposits knowing that there was nothing coming out of his shitty platform anymore.. ^^

btw I never employed the terms "hunt down", "prosecute", "insane" nor did i ever threatened or insulted anyone.

Moving on.  

Where did I spread propaganda? In first instance I merely countered your false allegations and your antisemitic BS.
As simple as that, if you people stop accusating jews for everything bad that happens to you or to others then you won't see me again, it's you keep on spreading your BS I'll be there, always.
I know you are an antisemite, you are one of those fans of Dieudonné, the antisemitic so-called "humourist" who is in fact following a political agenda, that guy even had his party financed by Iran to spread antisemitism in France.

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oh wow, could you believe it? MK even had the balls to accept fiat deposits knowing that there was nothing coming out of his shitty platform anymore.. ^^

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Yep.  Total, blatant, in your face stealing.  Anyway, renf allowed me to fill this thread with facts while he danced around like a clown.  Yes he also PM'd me but nothing threatening.  Threats are so weak, and in fact, tribes are also weak.  Being a lone individual and having a code of honor that doesn't require 100,000 priests to spell it out for you, is what matters far more than glomming up with some douchetribe of any stripe.

Sure there's strength in numbers but there's also massive cowardice in numbers.  I mean all tribes of all stripes who had members killed in WW2, not just judaists.  All humans dead in WW2 are worth the same, no corpse is worth more because of his or her tribe, which didn't save them anyway.  Tribes are mostly horseshit.  But not being a shitty thief, will bring you friends and allies no matter what your God is.

Yes all humans killed in WW2 are equal, at least I agree with you on that point.
However the problem is not there, because no one has denied this fact so far, the problem is that people like you keep denying the death of over six million Jews. And strangely enough, you never do the same for others who died during WW2.
I never saw one of you denying the deathes of Roma people, homosexuals, Serbians, disabled people, and so on...
But when it comes to Jews...

So you're a Zionist by necessity rather than ideology? I guess you think Neturei Karta (presstv link above) are dangerous self-hating anti-Semites because they took scripture more seriously than your family? LOL.

That's your problem, you're obsessed with Jews and zionists, the less you think about them, the less you will see them everywhere.
Yes NKUSA is a group filled with self hating jews, in fact these are ultraorthodox Jews, these Jews are those who should fight against because they are extremists. Zionists are not extremists, ultraorthodox Jews counter secularism, they hate democracy, they hate progress, some of them even force their wives to put a burqa like muslims in Afghanistan.
Obviously they hate Israel because Israel represents all what they hate. If you support them then maybe you should go to Beit Shemesh in Jerusalem and conform to their backward rules.

You are clearly the actual attacker. Nobody is hurt by words on a screen. You are advocating the physical action of depriving someone of their freedom. You also wrote a threatening PM to hdbuck. Typical Jewish behavior.

I did not call for physical violence, where did you even read that? I called to prosecute and use legal action in order to press charges against antisemitic acts. That's called justice you know, there's nothing physical in there.

Please answer this: Do you support the Samson Option?

What do you think a country with nukes would do? You know many other countries have nukes too...

Oooh how interesting, you know about racist Jews posing as fake neo-Nazis. Surely you know about Frank Collin (Cohen), the Jew who headed the American Nazi Party and allowed the media and Hollywood to generate an unprecedented degree of sympathy for Jewish victims of the Second World War, to the point where "Holocaust" victims became more important than the fallen US soldiers who supposedly fought to liberate the Jews from the Nazis. Does your SPCJ group send young Jews like you to pose as white supremacist nationalists and create French neo-Nazi groups do discredit nationalism and anti-Zionism? Or do you stick to hasbara efforts? Or is the former a more advanced position/mission you are aspiring to?

You are really deluded.

Warning! Warning! Fear! Fear! If you're a Jew, they're coming for you, so come to uss, ve'll protect you against the efil antiseemites! Nefer again!

You know renfr, if you defined yourself as a human being, then "your people" would be all human beings. When you define "your people" as a small subset of the human race who are locked into a collective fear of "the others" (a pre-traumatic stress disorder, as Gilad Atzmon put it), then you are promoting and attracting precisely the kind of situation you believe you are fighting against.

The situation doesn't exist, it's only in your head, to borrow your phrase. What you see as "antisemitism" is people pointing out detrimental Jewish behavior such as yours.


Folks, what's with the call for mods/censorship? Let renfr spew his hate as much as he wants here. They are just words on a screen. Better to put that energy into text rather than physical action in the form of harassment of French people who dare think outside the Jewish box.

Holocaust didn't exist too? Right? It's all in my head? Terrorists threatening to blow up Israel and send rockets on the houses of innocents is just in our head riiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

[renfr]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

All one needs to know about Jews.

What do you think the US, Russia, China would do with their nukes if some country was to threaten their existence?

But woops... when it comes to Israel it's always a different story, that's what we call double standards.

[hdbuck]

This guy's a lost cause, of course he isnt payed to spill his anger, he buys it all

The vision of Isaiah the son of Amoz, which he saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem in the days of Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz, and Hezekiah, kings of Judah. Hear, O heavens, and give ear, O earth; for the Lord has spoken: “Children have I reared and brought up, but they have rebelled against me. The ox knows its owner, and the donkey its master's crib, but Israel does not know, my people do not understand.” Ah, sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity, offspring of evildoers, children who deal corruptly! They have forsaken the Lord, they have despised the Holy One of Israel, they are utterly estranged. Why will you still be struck down? Why will you continue to rebel? The whole head is sick, and the whole heart faint.

Isaiah 1:1-31

 

edit: by the old books, i'm probably more jewish than he is.

[itsunderstood]

I never saw one of you denying the deathes of Roma people, homosexuals, Serbians, disabled people, and so on...
But when it comes to Jews...

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Obviously they hate Israel because Israel represents all what they hate.

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You know many other countries have nukes too...

renf, it's not easy to reach you, but to state it plainly using your own terms:

Have Romanians, traditionally been a diaspora'd people and have they been given a nuke-enabled UN caliber State after WW2 as with your dead ones, whatever the number be?

So, no, we know that Roma people have lived there for a long long time.  Not the same.  Okay so then let's examine your carefully stupid list above.  After Romanians you mentioned:

- Serbians (again, not typically a diaspora'd group
- Homosexuals (not traditionally political, but granted that after WW2)
- Disabled (true, Hitler was a dickhead who would kill the disabled, we can agree there)
- "and so on" which I think you mean "Other things Shicklegruber didn't like" because the whole event which offendeth Roma, Serbia, Homosexualia (haha), and Masons as well, is the Rome-empowered scythe of National Socialism which was really just basically in the end, culture war between cyrillic priests and latin priests, with Judaists (and all your groups you mentioned) caught in the middle.

I do not say that "Jews" ran WW2, merely that Stalin and Himmler were going to exploit markets of war, and therefore the Hebrew speaking tribe was involved (and yes heavily wounded) by Shicklgruber the Marcher Lord for Germanic UK house run by Pius 12 and his Jesuit confessor, and Von Papen, etc, all of whom knew they were prosecuting a war which was begin in WW1 and would continue after WW2.

NOTE: The Nazi Red House report said in 1944 Spring [ http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1179902/Revealed-The-secret-report-shows-Nazis-planned-Fourth-Reich--EU.html ], that the SS had admitted defeat, and that they would 'submarine' (so to speak) all the wealth they had left.  This is not conspiracy theory, it is newly revealed (relatively new anyway) truth about conspiracy shaping warfare.

Because this means, that whomever formed the SS, knew for a fact, that they were killing Germans and all others (and continuing the camps) for no reason except the burnt offering to their God.  

Is Rome involved with Rothschild?  Do gangs steal?  Do men like Mark K. get puppeted and captured and used?  And does that puppet, perceive himself as being a true genius who can pull off whatever innovations he can?

Was he being "innovative" when he seeded the internet with his trashy Gox API that now references a den of thievery and poor TX policies?  Why did anyone ever refer to MTGox price if the truth was that their TX implementation was so shitty?  In terms of getting the dupes' money to flow to you, making a shitty API and then collapsing it after a final snatch and grab, makes perfect sense.  I mean keeping the deposit window open while failing to catch "thieves" and then "finding" 200k coins  ...His words here are just really to precious.  This is an amazing moment in time, but nobody needs to feel surrounded like Samson, because nobody on this planet is as good as Samson.  Show me one good Nazarene like Samson and I will disagree.

edit

Red House report was 1944 not 1943, but still as the article says

The order to export foreign capital was technically illegal in Nazi Germany, but by the summer of 1944 the law did not matter.

More than two months after D-Day, the Nazis were being squeezed by the Allies from the west and the Soviets from the east. Hitler had been badly wounded in an assassination attempt. The Nazi leadership was nervous, fractious and quarrelling.

During the war years the SS had built up a gigantic economic empire, based on plunder and murder, and they planned to keep it.

A meeting such as that at the Maison Rouge would need the protection of the SS, according to Dr Adam Tooze of Cambridge University, author of Wages of Destruction: The Making And Breaking Of The Nazi Economy.

He says: 'By 1944 any discussion of post-war planning was banned. It was extremely dangerous to do that in public. But the SS was thinking in the long-term. If you are trying to establish a workable coalition after the war, the only safe place to do it is under the auspices of the apparatus of terror.'

Shrewd SS leaders such as Otto Ohlendorf were already thinking ahead.

^^^ Notice the UK press won't speak to Edwin Black's book the Transfer Agreement, because then they'd have to admit their press copy above is a lie: Shicklegruber allowed some Zionists to escape, before WW2 even got really going.  So thei copy above, is also only partially honest, do you see?

[btcusury]

This guy's a lost cause, of course he isnt payed to spill his anger, he buys it all

Yep, I think you're right, he's not the clever type of hasbarat. He seems to uncritically believe everything he is told by the leaders of "his people". Too bad for him. The hate he carries is the hate that will destroy him, not the imagined hate his traumatized amygdala perceives everywhere.

The difference between Jews and other groups of victims is this: If gypsies, homosexuals, or Serbians were shown evidence that less of them died than they believe, they'd welcome the news. Only for traumatized Jews is it horrible news to hear of someone presenting evidence that less than 6 million Jews died during the Second World War.

For those who blindly believe in the sacred number, you need only watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dda-0Q_XUhk

[itsunderstood]

Plus, if MK was muslim it would also factor in how his mind works.

Also, if he were a lawyer it would factor in how his mind works.

Also if he were ignorant of some things.

This seems a logical newsbyte to post here in defense of all assholery and ideaology wars:

http://rt.com/news/sharia-law-uk-legal-713/

UK "Law Society" creates New Legal Classes from Old Bullshit

[...]

Sharia principles are to become enshrined in the UK legal system for the first time, with The Law Society publishing guidelines for drawing up documents according to Islamic rules, which would exclude non-believers and encroach on women’s rights.

The new guidelines were produced by The Law Society earlier this month. Under the guidance, High Street solicitors will be able to write Islamic wills which will have the power to exclude non-believers completely and deny women an equal share of an inheritance.

“The male heirs in most cases receive double the amount inherited by a female heir of the same class. Non-Muslims may not inherit at all, and only Muslim marriages are recognized,” states the document.

Any children who have been born outside of marriage and even kids who have been adopted will also not be recognized as legitimate heirs.

It also advises lawyers to draft special exclusions from the Wills Act 1837, which would allow gifts or money to pass to the children of an heir who has died, as this practice isn’t recognized in Islamic law.

UK is where all the world's lawyers get made, pretty much.  So, there are many levels to the valid question OP raises and comments in this thread allow us to have a pretty good discussion so far I'd say.

[leopard2]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

All one needs to know about Jews.

What do you think the US, Russia, China would do with their nukes if some country was to threaten their existence?

But woops... when it comes to Israel it's always a different story, that's what we call double standards.

No, there is a big difference and again, I am not antisemitic, I have lived and worked with Jews.

There is no reason to believe that US, Russia or China would be distributing their nukes to neutral countries. They would still destroy the world by nuking their enemies - but targetting everyone just to destroy the planet is a different story.

"Israel's surviving Dolphin-class nuclear missile submarines would retaliate not only against Israel's attackers, but "bring down the pillars of the world (attack Moscow and European capitals for instance)"

Such thinking is why antisemitism exists in the first place. It is like "if we can't own the planet we destroy it", very nice.

It is pure terrorism. If any one other country than Israel would try the same, build nukes and then threaten the entire world, they would be destroyed immediately, Iran can't even have a single nuke.

[itsunderstood]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lixYEZ9M_dU

Hotshit retro here, LOL

He looks exactly the same today, his attitude is the same.  BUT NOTE: He cannot and will not discuss Palestine from years 1900-1945 because he simply cannot do so.  The script begins when WW2 ends.

[hdbuck]

For those who blindly believe in the sacred number, you need only watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dda-0Q_XUhk

No shit!  




edit: oh and thx for this :

Some people on this thread truly deserve to be on the SWC list.

oh wow.. you even have an annual list?

I wish we had one to hunt down antisemites like you, I can guarantee you'd be on that list.

The reason why you keep shouting all over the web about your insane farfetched conspiracy theories is because there's actually no one to make you pay the consequences of your actions.
It'll be far more quiet when people like you will start being hunted until they're found and prosecuted for severe misdemeanor.

Thank you for proving exactly what I'm saying. You are a violent thug who feels entitled to something that others don't, just because you are a Jew.

So now fighting antisemitism is being violent? duuuh ^^
How do you respond if someone attacks you? FUCKING TURN THE OTHER CHEEK IS THAT SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND? a concept also known as Universal Luv - thank you Jesus!
You prove my point, antisemites can only sustain their ideology through lie and deceit. true, but the real antisemites are not the one you'd expect
Now they turn the situation around, antisemites are nice fellows and those who denounce antisemitism are violent and dangerous. hey im a nice guy, never threatened you or your fellas ^^

I didn't turn anything around, the facts are there in plain words. You're a human being who feels justified in labeling others "evil, insane, irrational" and then use that judgment to justify "hunting them down" and "making them pay" for "thought crimes", completely disregarding the concept of the human right to free speech. Even if what is being said were not true, you'd still be a violent thug.

Do you know why some people in certain lower-income places decide to join neo-Nazi/white supremacist groups? It's because they are violent thugs, like you. They adopt Nazi symbolism because of its image, not because they know the first thing about National Socialism. They believe all the lies told by the victors of the Second World War, like almost everyone else, including you. Likewise, you know much less about Judaism and Jewish behavior than you think.

Take a pause to look at who is saying what here. Perhaps look at yourself in the mirror. It's there that you'll find hate, not in these words.

Theorically, Israel should have been created only after the Messiah returns and Jews would have had waited for that moment. However you gave Jews no choice but to create it.

So you're a Zionist by necessity rather than ideology? lmao thats a good one I guess you think Neturei Karta (presstv link above) are dangerous self-hating anti-Semites because they took scripture more seriously than your family? LOL. ROFL

Reminder to all antisemites : the whole world will fall after Israel starts falling, the IDF is one of the strongest armies of the world, you stand no chance  

Please answer this: Do you support the Samson Option? oh wow, seriously fucked up strategy  

And stop turning the situation around again, you're just victimizing the actual attackers. Typical liberal bias.

You are clearly the actual attacker. Nobody is hurt by words on a screen. You are advocating the physical action of depriving someone of their freedom. You also wrote a threatening PM to hdbuck. actually its 2  


Wow, google SPCJ and what do you find? "Lettre du Président du SPCJ – Éric de Rothschild"! Apparently it's the ADL of France. So this pathetic little thug, renfr, is an Abe Foxman wannabe.

I bet you were sent as a child to the reconstructed Auschwitz concentration camp to be traumatized for life, as depicted in Yoav Shamir's documentary Defamation. OMG OMG awesome documentary - poor kids, being raised in such fear and hate http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDBdQDHL6wI This insanity is what ingrains the Jewish persecution complex into children's psyches for creeps like Abe Foxman to exploit. WTF that part in the documentary when they have teenagers sitting on the streets in poland like if they where deported - of course polish people think they're crazy, i wouldnt want my kids to experience the same shit oh and those teenagers totally lost at some camp visit because of feeling ashamed for not crying - until, of course, they break down... soo wicked..

BEING JEW IS NOT FIGHTING ANTISEMITISM, BEING JEW IS PRACTICING JUDAISM

 Does your SPCJ group send young Jews like you to pose as white supremacist nationalists and create French neo-Nazi groups in order to discredit nationalism and anti-Zionism in France? they're called "antifas" - it took me a while to understand why thugs that looked like supremacist nationalists where pretending to fight them - could you believe it? fighting nazis dressed as nazis?! ^^

oh and we also have JDL, an FBI listed terrorist group that is even banned from Israel   so much luuv

You know renfr, if you defined yourself as a human being, then "your people" would be all human beings. When you define "your people" as a small subset of the human race who are locked into a collective fear of "the others" (a pre-traumatic stress disorder, as Gilad Atzmon put it), then you are promoting and attracting precisely the kind of situation you believe you are fighting against.

The situation doesn't exist, it's only in your head, to borrow your phrase. What you see as "antisemitism" is people pointing out detrimental Jewish behavior such as yours.


Folks, what's with the call for mods/censorship? Let renfr spew his hate as much as he wants here. They are just words on a screen. Better to put that energy into text rather than physical action in the form of harassment of French people who dare think outside the Jewish box.
yup, its pretty damn the far west in France ^^

couldn't say it better. greetings from France

PS: alright let him speak and publicly make a fool of himself, maybe it will open the eyes of people like him out there

[hdbuck]

dear renfr,

i know its not much but know that i dont hate you, i'm sorry you've been raised in such fear and anger. Its those who purposely fill your young heads with such horrors that should be ashamed for not giving you the chance to live a forgiving and peaceful life.

here, have a hug:



 

[renfr]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option

All one needs to know about Jews.

What do you think the US, Russia, China would do with their nukes if some country was to threaten their existence?

But woops... when it comes to Israel it's always a different story, that's what we call double standards.

No, there is a big difference and again, I am not antisemitic, I have lived and worked with Jews.

There is no reason to believe that US, Russia or China would be distributing their nukes to neutral countries. They would still destroy the world by nuking their enemies - but targetting everyone just to destroy the planet is a different story.

"Israel's surviving Dolphin-class nuclear missile submarines would retaliate not only against Israel's attackers, but "bring down the pillars of the world (attack Moscow and European capitals for instance)"

Such thinking is why antisemitism exists in the first place. It is like "if we can't own the planet we destroy it", very nice.

It is pure terrorism. If any one other country than Israel would try the same, build nukes and then threaten the entire world, they would be destroyed immediately, Iran can't even have a single nuke.

Van Creveld is just an historian so you shouldn't take seriously what he says. But yes, the whole world will be destroyed before Israel gets destroyed if there's an imminent threat over the state of Israel.
Also why did you forget the beginning of the sentence that was saying "in the "aftermath of a second Holocaust" Israel's surviving Dolphin-class nuclear missile submarines would retaliate...".
If you take that into account then the Samson option has nothing to do with terrorism, it's rather counter-terrorism. Remember that Israel was created for the sole purpose of Jews to never be again victims of another holocaust.
Israel will do whatever it takes for that to never happen again, if the whole world threatens of a new holocaust then yes it will be nuked, if Iran gets a nuke and plans to nuke Israel to make a new holocaust then yes it will be nuked as well.
If DPRK was serious and was to nuke L.A. then the US would immediatly make DPRK a living hell and the only thing that would remain would be scorched earth.

Such thinking is why antisemitism exists in the first place. It is like "if we can't own the planet we destroy it", very nice.

Antisemitism existed long before zionism existed, long before Israel (as the current state of Israel) existed. Jews have lived for almost two millenaries without a state and yet antisemitism kept existing.
It's a false argument to say that Israel is why there is antisemitism.
Back in Muhammad times, some Jews were living in peace in the oasis of Khaybar, they had a prosperous city and guess what happened? Muhammad called muslims to arms to force the city, kill the Jews and take the booty.
Jews lived in peace in Europe as well and many of them were massacred, deported and forced to convert. It's only now that european countries are realizing this was a terrible mistake and there was no justification except fanaticism for doing this.

For those who blindly believe in the sacred number, you need only watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dda-0Q_XUhk

No shit! 




edit: oh and thx for this :

Some people on this thread truly deserve to be on the SWC list.

oh wow.. you even have an annual list?

I wish we had one to hunt down antisemites like you, I can guarantee you'd be on that list.

The reason why you keep shouting all over the web about your insane farfetched conspiracy theories is because there's actually no one to make you pay the consequences of your actions.
It'll be far more quiet when people like you will start being hunted until they're found and prosecuted for severe misdemeanor.

Thank you for proving exactly what I'm saying. You are a violent thug who feels entitled to something that others don't, just because you are a Jew.

So now fighting antisemitism is being violent? duuuh ^^
How do you respond if someone attacks you? FUCKING TURN THE OTHER CHEEK IS THAT SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND? a concept also known as Universal Luv - thank you Jesus!
You prove my point, antisemites can only sustain their ideology through lie and deceit. true, but the real antisemites are not the one you'd expect
Now they turn the situation around, antisemites are nice fellows and those who denounce antisemitism are violent and dangerous. hey im a nice guy, never threatened you or your fellas ^^

I didn't turn anything around, the facts are there in plain words. You're a human being who feels justified in labeling others "evil, insane, irrational" and then use that judgment to justify "hunting them down" and "making them pay" for "thought crimes", completely disregarding the concept of the human right to free speech. Even if what is being said were not true, you'd still be a violent thug.

Do you know why some people in certain lower-income places decide to join neo-Nazi/white supremacist groups? It's because they are violent thugs, like you. They adopt Nazi symbolism because of its image, not because they know the first thing about National Socialism. They believe all the lies told by the victors of the Second World War, like almost everyone else, including you. Likewise, you know much less about Judaism and Jewish behavior than you think.

Take a pause to look at who is saying what here. Perhaps look at yourself in the mirror. It's there that you'll find hate, not in these words.

Theorically, Israel should have been created only after the Messiah returns and Jews would have had waited for that moment. However you gave Jews no choice but to create it.

So you're a Zionist by necessity rather than ideology? lmao thats a good one I guess you think Neturei Karta (presstv link above) are dangerous self-hating anti-Semites because they took scripture more seriously than your family? LOL. ROFL

Reminder to all antisemites : the whole world will fall after Israel starts falling, the IDF is one of the strongest armies of the world, you stand no chance 

Please answer this: Do you support the Samson Option? oh wow, seriously fucked up strategy 

And stop turning the situation around again, you're just victimizing the actual attackers. Typical liberal bias.

You are clearly the actual attacker. Nobody is hurt by words on a screen. You are advocating the physical action of depriving someone of their freedom. You also wrote a threatening PM to hdbuck. actually its 2 


Wow, google SPCJ and what do you find? "Lettre du Président du SPCJ – Éric de Rothschild"! Apparently it's the ADL of France. So this pathetic little thug, renfr, is an Abe Foxman wannabe.

I bet you were sent as a child to the reconstructed Auschwitz concentration camp to be traumatized for life, as depicted in Yoav Shamir's documentary Defamation. OMG OMG awesome documentary - poor kids, being raised in such fear and hate http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDBdQDHL6wI This insanity is what ingrains the Jewish persecution complex into children's psyches for creeps like Abe Foxman to exploit. WTF that part in the documentary when they have teenagers sitting on the streets in poland like if they where deported - of course polish people think they're crazy, i wouldnt want my kids to experience the same shit oh and those teenagers totally lost at some camp visit because of feeling ashamed for not crying - until, of course, they break down... soo wicked..

BEING JEW IS NOT FIGHTING ANTISEMITISM, BEING JEW IS PRACTICING JUDAISM

 Does your SPCJ group send young Jews like you to pose as white supremacist nationalists and create French neo-Nazi groups in order to discredit nationalism and anti-Zionism in France? they're called "antifas" - it took me a while to understand why thugs that looked like supremacist nationalists where pretending to fight them - could you believe it? fighting nazis dressed as nazis?! ^^

oh and we also have JDL, an FBI listed terrorist group that is even banned from Israel   so much luuv

You know renfr, if you defined yourself as a human being, then "your people" would be all human beings. When you define "your people" as a small subset of the human race who are locked into a collective fear of "the others" (a pre-traumatic stress disorder, as Gilad Atzmon put it), then you are promoting and attracting precisely the kind of situation you believe you are fighting against.

The situation doesn't exist, it's only in your head, to borrow your phrase. What you see as "antisemitism" is people pointing out detrimental Jewish behavior such as yours.


Folks, what's with the call for mods/censorship? Let renfr spew his hate as much as he wants here. They are just words on a screen. Better to put that energy into text rather than physical action in the form of harassment of French people who dare think outside the Jewish box.
yup, its pretty damn the far west in France ^^

couldn't say it better. greetings from France

PS: alright let him speak and publicly make a fool of himself, maybe it will open the eyes of people like him out there

hdbuck you don't seem to understand a few basic things :
- Fighting doesn't necessarily imply physical violence, it means fighting in the sense "to counter", as simple as that
- Nope, that's catholic BS and that's why catholicism is dying as a religion, because catholicism is bowing down to the evils of this world with this stupid motto that is "if your cheek is slapped then present them the other cheek (so that they can slap it even stronger)", this is carebearish idiocy and everyone now in this world that this doesn't work. If you're attacked then you counterattack, as simple as that, an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, a hand for a hand, a foot for a foot.
- To me zionism is simple patriotism, I'm a French patriot so logically I support zionism which is just a specific kind of patriotism which merely means "one land, one people".
- Antifascists? Seriously you don't know what you're talking about, antifascists are as antisemites as neo-nazis overall in France, antifascists who support the socialist filth governement and make rampages in several cities. Antifascists are just as braindead as neonazis, the only difference is that the governement supports them so they're the good guys (Clément Méric for example) while the neonazis are the bad guys (Esteban Morillo), in fact they're just all in the same. They support islamic terror against what they call the "evil apartheid zionist regime of Israel".
- JDL is not a terrorist group, JDL is Jewish self-defense group, the guy who was terrorist is Victor Vancier but he's not a terrorist anymore and he's the leader of the JTF.
In the USA JDL is not even active anymore, the only thing they had was Camp Meir (kahane chai) a while ago : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miLk32l_4VU
This is just self-defense like there are thousands of thousands of self defense centre all around the world teaching about fighting techniques, stop being paranoid okay...
Hopefully the section in France is still active with many self defense trainings and if you hate them then I suggest you to go to Rue des rosiers, quartier du marais in Paris and pass by for a little visit, they'll be glad to meet you.

yup, its pretty damn the far west in France ^^

Yeah and it's because of zionists? Riiiiiiiight. The reason why our country is fucked up has nothing to do with Jews or zionists, yeah some of our corrupted politicians are Jews, some are zionists but others are not and yet they're as corrupted as the others. And I completely despise Manuel Valls for what he did recently against Dieudonné.
You know though I fight (not physically okay?) against the ideas of Dieudonné and his friends, I defend freedom of speech above all and I'm totally against any kind of censorship.


TL;DR, this topic is totally aberrant, the fact that MK is Jewish or not is totally irrelevant. Believe me, many Jews were also victim of his plan to run away with the coins, this has nothing to do with religion.
He's just a mere computer geek who is just Jewish by the origins and atheist in the mind, he probably doesn't even care about his religion, he tried to connect back to Judaism when he went to Ashdod and it ended in being a complete failure.

[renfr]

dear renfr,

i know its not much but know that i dont hate you, i'm sorry you've been raised in such fear and anger. Its those who purposely fill your young heads with such horrors that should be ashamed for not giving you the chance to live a forgiving and peaceful life.

here, have a hug:



 

I don't hate you. I merely counter all the shills who keep saying "if X happened it's because of the jews/zionists".

[hdbuck]

the fact that MK wrote the same pathetic shit that you seem to blindy believe is relevant to the fact that your type of brainwashed jew is evil and should been ignored for the sake of the Earth and Humanity. Now you can either get this in your little head and enjoy some rest from all this fear and hate you carry or you can keep on spilling your filth about terrorists not being terrorists and not antisemites being antesemites. your reasoning is so inhuman and hopeless its embarrassing to see how insanely radical your are. fucking idiot.
Its always the other's fault, always about making lists, counting points, comparing others misbehavior to justify yours. You are just usurping the image of innocent jews for the purpose of your fucking domination cause/ideology. You are the only antisemite in this place. I'm certainly not. WAKE UP OR PISS OFF.

edit: i really hope that this behavior here from that fanatic will help making the connections in other's head before those fucktards start the fucking nuke apocalypse and be happy about it. besides calling everyone that doesnt agree with you or your egomaniac ideology an antisemite, calling someone a "self-hating" is even more despicable and clearly shows a total lack of empathy, if not the whole brain.

[renfr]

the fact that MK wrote the same pathetic shit that you seem to blindy believe is relevant to the fact that your type of brainwashed jew is evil and should been ignored for the sake of the Earth.

Now I'm evil?
I'm not brainwashed at all, no one except myself had influence on me and 6-7 years ago my thoughts were completely different.