The Rock Trading Scam www.therocktrading.com Exchange Review fraud truffa

[r34tr783tr78]

Update:

Coinfan is sending mails to all our associates and business related companies about his case.  It is quite interesting that he is signing the mails with his name which is Peter R...... (voided for privacy).  As stated multiple times, the account for which the OP is claiming the ownership, is in the name of a woman. Suzana ...... (voided for privacy).  Again, if after more than 3 years, the OP has not been capable of producing a KYC, it is quite evident that, while he had access to the account, he is not the owner of it.

Trustpilot, which is an independent company, after some investigation decided to erase a couple of fake posts.  There is nothing we can do about it.....

About the fake volumes...... as stated multiple times by Jollygood, our exchange is a small platform. So, if we were "faking" volumes, we would have done a better job....  

I would like to remind the reader that there is a criminal procedure against the OP and funds are securely on hold by an arbiter.  

Official documents at the following link: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1AcIIsoWP5mcMCApKMMPtTokkXfS9eyIz

Even though Coinfan has been defaming our company for over 3 years all over, and tried to strongly pressure us in order to steal funds which he doesn't own, we are proud to prove to our customer that  we will do anything in our power to protect their funds from thieves and scammers.

Thank you

You were pissed off for being denounced to people you are dealing with you unaware that you are a scammer? You will be much more. More of your partners and crowdfunders will be informed about your scam exchange. I am going to send also to the prosecutor email all about your scams and I will post a scan of it here.
New development. Said and done. Scammer medri be prepared for more bad news. Information and evidence was sent to another of your partners. Looking forward for another of your venting posts. Make my day. I love the smell of a whining burning scammer.
OP if you dont send a complaint to the prosecutor against this scamer I will. This is not only about you. He is scamming many more people. Posting here solves nothing. He already stole your money and all of the crowdfunders.

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[Coinfan]

I have legal reason for having delayed my criminal complain. The Rock CFO won't lose anything because of this delay. r34tr783tr78, you do what you have to do in the interest of everyone. Thank you again for your continuous support.

Here is one of the videos made and published on the Internet by the Rock CFO during their crowdfunding campaign. It's in Italian which says much about how ambitious their were from the start about their target (victims).
https://vimeo.com/455449259

At the 50 second, he says something that reveals completely the scam: that their goal was on the next 2 or 3 years to become the leader on crypto, not just on Europe but on the World!! He has to add that it's a difficult goal or it would be a too ridiculous lie.

But this isn't difficult. This is completely absurd and just another of his blatant lies! You just have to look for their pathetic exchange to confirm that they didn't invest a cent on their business.

The 1.5 million that they scammed from their investors is to pay for their retirement. They are old and have to think about their future since they failed to take advantage to make money of a legitimate once on a life opportunity, Bitcoin. Nothing like getting rich at the expenses of the naive people who believed on his lies.

[Coinfan]

Recently, the Rock CFO wrote on their thread on the Italian board.

Inoltre, abbiamo depositato i fondi presso un Arbitro a comprova dell'esistenza.

Translation: «In addition, we deposited the funds with an Arbitrator as evidence of existence.»

He his writing that the only reason because they send money to a so-called Arbitrator was as evidence that they had the money and weren't insolvent.

Now compare this statement to what he wrote some months ago several times, like here:

On the 20th of January 2021 we transferred the balance of account 1XX8 in the amount Euro 35519.92  to an account in control of the arbiter.

Since then, TRT [The Rock Trading] is no longer in control of the funds which are securely held by a qualified third party.

He just completely contradicted himself, confessing that he lied before.

He could have avoided this serious confession by just write that he sent money to an arbiter. But thankfully he makes mistakes after mistakes and offers confessions and evidence of his own crimes, making my life much easier.

He completely ruined his carefully planed fraud (he went as far as to publish twice banking certificates of a transfer and balance of the account of the secret fake third party arbiter) to pretend that he no longer had my money.

[eliale]

Please note:

The OP never asked the name of the Arbiter opening a ticket or sending us an official request.

Thank you

[Coinfan]

The OP never asked the name of the Arbiter opening a ticket or sending us an official request.

The Rock CFO keeps making my task of exposing their scams easier.

I didn't highlight again that he deliberately hided the identity of the fake arbiter to whom he claims he sent money and is refusing to disclose publicly his name and contacts. He just had the brilliant idea on its own to highlight this.

Again, he didn't deny that indeed he lied when several times he posted that he no longer had control of the money he claims he sent to the arbiter. Sending money to someone he controls and claiming the contrary in order to create the fake impression that he don't owes me nothing is blatant fraud.

He also claims I'm defaming him by accusing him to use fake orderbooks to scam their investors and customers but again he didn't deny it.

The evidence was posted on this thread for everyone to read, as summarized and linked on my first post and also here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4975753.msg57997246#msg57997246

And I'll keep adding more.

He also didn't even comment on the complete lie he told on his video promoting the crowdfunding about his intention to convert the Rock Trading in the leader on crypto in the World!

He can claim it was an "objective", not a promise. But it was a ridiculous lie on a 1.5 million euro investing "promotion". He never had any intention or expectation on executing this absurd "objective". Fraud pure and simple! And he is on record saying that!

[eliale]

The OP never asked the name of the Arbiter opening a ticket or sending us an official request.

I didn't highlight again that he deliberately hided the identity of the fake arbiter to whom he claims he sent money and is refusing to disclose publicly his name and contacts. He just had the brilliant idea on its own to highlight this.

The arbiter information is not available to the general public but to the OP or the real owner of the account only.

It is quite evident that the OP is reluctant to request the information because the arbiter will require a full KYC proving, once for all, that the OP is NOT the account owner.

Thank you

[JollyGood]

You are not presenting your company in a good light when you keep up this vendetta against the OP. You selectively scammed the OP out of what was then over 35,000 EURO and instead of returning the funds you decided to take revenge because the OP created this thread to expose your scam.

The OP is the account owner, you are deliberately trying to misguide those reading this thread.

The OP never asked the name of the Arbiter opening a ticket or sending us an official request.

I didn't highlight again that he deliberately hided the identity of the fake arbiter to whom he claims he sent money and is refusing to disclose publicly his name and contacts. He just had the brilliant idea on its own to highlight this.

The arbiter information is not available to the general public but to the OP or the real owner of the account only.

It is quite evident that the OP is reluctant to request the information because the arbiter will require a full KYC proving, once for all, that the OP is NOT the account owner.

Thank you

[eliale]

You are not presenting your company in a good light when you keep up this vendetta against the OP. You selectively scammed the OP out of what was then over 35,000 EURO and instead of returning the funds you decided to take revenge because the OP created this thread to expose your scam.

The OP is the account owner, you are deliberately trying to misguide those reading this thread.

Again, the Arbiter information is available to the OP or to the account owner upon request. No vendetta... This is why we decided to move funds to the Arbiter.

Thank you

[Coinfan]

He keeps posting the same lies and I have to refute them again.

The Rock CFO created the fake arbiter and sent his money to himself. He already confessed he fully controls the arbiter and would receive and refuse at will any documents. The arbiter is just a new version of the illegal KYC pretext to steal my money, even after he closed my account.

Just read another of his posts where he confessed the all plot.

2) We never denied your capacity to access the account which has been proven by you and confirmed by us.  However, because we do believe you are not the owner of it, we need to verify it. It would be very easy to do it on your side.

3) Also, being capable to prove the ownership of the account, would also allow us to comply with AML rules

4) Last but not least, we no longer have customer funds under our control but, they are safely held in an escrow account in the name of the Arbiter which, as soon as point 2 and 3 are satisfied, or with a Court Order, will promptly release funds.

He just insists on this blatant illegal pretext of KYC because he knows I won't ever send documents to him or his fake arbiter. 35500 euro that he thinks are already his.

He is a gambler, but a losing one. Just check this general balance of his deeds, bets and results:
he bet that he could steal my 35500 euro without being burned and he lost. Check his reputation.

He bet he could lie to the police without being exposed and he lost. He never even tried to deny that his lies to the police.

He bet that his fraud with the attempt to claim that he no longer had my money (read above) with the fake arbiter would prevail and he again lost. He now contradicts himself and never claimed again that he "no longer controls the money sent".

He bet he would be able to hide his 1.5 million crowdfunding scam based on his fake orderbooks and volume created by his own bots operating on his "exchange" and he lost. His scams were exposed and evidence of them is posted here.

He is operating a exposed scam in front of everyone at every moment and incredibly he is still gambling that he will be able to evade punishment for all these crimes and keep scamming as usual.

He is betting I won't take this to the prosecutor and other authorities. He will see.

And AGAIN, he keeps refusing to deny that he has fake orderbooks created by his bots.

ITALIANO

Continua a postare le stesse bugie e io devo confutarle di nuovo.

Il CFO di Rock ha creato il falso arbitro e ha inviato il suo denaro a se stesso. Ha già confessato di controllare completamente l'arbitro e di ricevere e rifiutare a piacimento qualsiasi documento. L'arbitro è solo una nuova versione del pretesto KYC illegale per rubare i miei soldi, anche dopo aver chiuso il mio conto.

Basta leggere un altro dei suoi post "intelligenti" dove ha confessato tutto il complotto.

2) Non abbiamo mai negato la vostra capacità di accedere al conto che è stata provata da voi e confermata da noi.  Tuttavia, poiché crediamo che tu non ne sia il proprietario, abbiamo bisogno di verificarlo. Sarebbe molto facile farlo dalla vostra parte.

3) Inoltre, essendo in grado di dimostrare la proprietà del conto, ci permetterebbe anche di rispettare le regole AML

4) Ultimo ma non meno importante, non abbiamo più i fondi dei clienti sotto il nostro controllo ma, sono tenuti al sicuro in un conto di deposito a garanzia a nome dell'Arbitro che, non appena il punto 2 e 3 sono soddisfatti, o con un ordine della Corte, rilascerà prontamente i fondi.

Insiste solo su questo palese pretesto illegale di KYC perché sa che non invierò mai documenti a lui o al suo falso arbitro. 35500 euro che lui pensa siano già suoi.

È un giocatore d'azzardo, ma perdente. Basta controllare questo bilancio generale delle sue azioni, scommesse e risultati:
ha scommesso che poteva rubare i miei 35500 euro senza essere bruciato e ha perso. Controlla la sua reputazione.

[Ha scommesso che poteva mentire alla polizia [/b] senza essere scoperto e ha perso. Non ha mai nemmeno provato a negare che le sue bugie alla polizia.

Ha scommesso che la sua frode con il tentativo di affermare che non aveva più i miei soldi (leggi sopra) con il falso arbitro avrebbe prevalso e ha nuovamente perso. Ora si contraddice e non ha mai affermato di nuovo che "non controlla più il denaro inviato".

Ha scommesso che sarebbe stato in grado di nascondere la sua truffa da 1,5 milioni di crowdfunding basata sui suoi falsi registri degli ordini e sul volume creato dai suoi stessi bot che operano sul suo "scambio" e ha perso. Le sue truffe sono state esposte e le prove sono pubblicate qui.

Sta operando una truffa esposta davanti a tutti in ogni momento, ma incredibilmente sta ancora giocando d'azzardo che sarà in grado di eludere la punizione per tutti questi crimini e continuare a truffare come al solito.

E ancora continua a rifiutarsi di negare che ha dei falsi registri d'ordine creati dai suoi bot.

[JollyGood]

Why are you keeping the name of arbiter secret from the public?

Can you name the arbiter here in public?

Can you categorically state you are not affiliated or connected with the arbiter in any way?

Why did you choose that particular arbiter and when was the first time you became aware of him/her/them?

You are not presenting your company in a good light when you keep up this vendetta against the OP. You selectively scammed the OP out of what was then over 35,000 EURO and instead of returning the funds you decided to take revenge because the OP created this thread to expose your scam.

The OP is the account owner, you are deliberately trying to misguide those reading this thread.

Again, the Arbiter information is available to the OP or to the account owner upon request. No vendetta... This is why we decided to move funds to the Arbiter.

Thank you

[eliale]

Why are you keeping the name of arbiter secret from the public?

Can you name the arbiter here in public? I'm sorry, being a sensible information, it is available to the authorities, to the OP and to the account owner only.

Can you categorically state you are not affiliated or connected with the arbiter in any way? We know the Arbiter but, by law, the arbiter MUST follow precise rules and it is legally binded to it

Why did you choose that particular arbiter and when was the first time you became aware of him/her/them? When we decided to transfer funds

But the real question is:  Why the OP doesn't request the information?  Maybe because he knows that the Arbiter will require full KYC proving he is not the owner of the account?  I believe this is the case.

[JollyGood]

Thank you for the swift reply but what you wrote highlights some issues which if were conducted in a different manner would have given you and your website some credibility.

For example, why on earth choose an arbiter that you already know instead someone completely impartial? Furthermore, why even transfer the funds totally 35,000 EURO to a third party without consent from the OP?

If what you say is correct and the OP is not asking for arbiter contact details because the OP does not want to send KYC, then that is not something that should not surprise you because the OP chose to not send you KYC after you seized their funds and I along with others advised the OP (when this scam accusation thread was created) to not send KYC in case you try to misuse it in order to take revenge on the OP.

Why will you not simply ask the arbiter to either send you the funds back in order for you to send them to the OP (who is the rightful owner) or ask the arbiter to send them directly to the OP - that way the whole issue will end and hopefully you will drop any legal argument you have against the OP and in the same way the OP will drop any legal argument against you and Rock Trading then both parties can continue without this issue hanging over them.

Will you please kindly consider it?

The OP has suffered a lot as a result of the funds being withheld for so long. The issue started in December 2017 and here we are in December 2021, it has been a long 4 years for the OP.

Please kindly consider bringing an end to this matter and release the funds back to the OP.

Why are you keeping the name of arbiter secret from the public?

Can you name the arbiter here in public? I'm sorry, being a sensible information, it is available to the authorities, to the OP and to the account owner only.

Can you categorically state you are not affiliated or connected with the arbiter in any way? We know the Arbiter but, by law, the arbiter MUST follow precise rules and it is legally binded to it

Why did you choose that particular arbiter and when was the first time you became aware of him/her/them? When we decided to transfer funds

But the real question is:  Why the OP doesn't request the information?  Maybe because he knows that the Arbiter will require full KYC proving he is not the owner of the account?  I believe this is the case.

[eliale]

Thank you for the swift reply but what you wrote highlights some issues which if were conducted in a different manner would have given you and your website some credibility.

For example, why on earth choose an arbiter that you already know instead someone completely impartial? Furthermore, why even transfer the funds totally 35,000 EURO to a third party without consent from the OP?

Because we cannot rely on consent from an anonymous person. Therefore, because one of the allegations was that we didn't have the funds, we decided to move in order to prove it. Also, it was stated on the Criminal Procedure against the OP.

If what you say is correct and the OP is not asking for arbiter contact details because the OP does not want to send KYC, then that is not something that should not surprise you because the OP chose to not send you KYC after you seized their funds and I along with others advised the OP (when this scam accusation thread was created) to not send KYC in case you try to misuse it in order to take revenge on the OP.

The OP doesn't have to provide KYC to us but to the Arbiter. 

Why will you not simply ask the arbiter to either send you the funds back in order for you to send them to the OP (who is the rightful owner) or ask the arbiter to send them directly to the OP - that way the whole issue will end and hopefully you will drop any legal argument you have against the OP and in the same way the OP will drop any legal argument against you and Rock Trading then both parties can continue without this issue hanging over them.

We cannot request funds back for a certain amount of time. I believe at least one year in case the owner of the account is not showing up ( I have to check on this).  In any case, even if possible, we would not be able to release funds without a full KYC identification. Sorry but current laws prevail on personal ideas.


Will you please kindly consider it?

What I could consider, if possible, is to let the OP choose a legal arbiter of his choice in Italy and mutually request the present one to transfer funds to the new one.

The OP has suffered a lot as a result of the funds being withheld for so long. The issue started in December 2017 and here we are in December 2021, it has been a long 4 years for the OP.

I know, but ask yourselves why?  For 4 years the OP stated that he initiated a legal procedure but, as of today, nothing....... The reason is simple: He cannot prove to be the account owner.
However, if he would consider to choose a LEGAL arbiter of his choice, I would gladly accept it


Please kindly consider bringing an end to this matter and release the funds back to the OP.

[JollyGood]

I think the consideration for possibly allowing the OP to select an arbiter for their own choosing is a huge step forward. Even though what I say obviously carries no weight as far as on a personal basis I have to say I am pleasantly surprised with you being open-minded enough to try to find a resolution that will be much quicker than any legal avenue would bring.

Regardless of the ludicrous allegations that were made in this thread the past in order to misdirect from the real issues, my only concern and interest within this situation is and was that the OP should be returned their funds. If the OP can select an arbiter for you the send the funds to they should be instructed to release the funds to the OP as long as they send KYC to the arbiter on the basis that KYC is not passed on to Rock Trading. You can send the funds and the name of the account holder to the new arbiter and as long as the OP sends appropriate KYC then that should bring the matter to an end - if the OP agrees.

I hope the OP will read these posts soon and contemplate the next step carefully when posting with an update.

Thank you for the swift reply but what you wrote highlights some issues which if were conducted in a different manner would have given you and your website some credibility.

For example, why on earth choose an arbiter that you already know instead someone completely impartial? Furthermore, why even transfer the funds totally 35,000 EURO to a third party without consent from the OP?

Because we cannot rely on consent from an anonymous person. Therefore, because one of the allegations was that we didn't have the funds, we decided to move in order to prove it. Also, it was stated on the Criminal Procedure against the OP.

If what you say is correct and the OP is not asking for arbiter contact details because the OP does not want to send KYC, then that is not something that should not surprise you because the OP chose to not send you KYC after you seized their funds and I along with others advised the OP (when this scam accusation thread was created) to not send KYC in case you try to misuse it in order to take revenge on the OP.

The OP doesn't have to provide KYC to us but to the Arbiter.  

Why will you not simply ask the arbiter to either send you the funds back in order for you to send them to the OP (who is the rightful owner) or ask the arbiter to send them directly to the OP - that way the whole issue will end and hopefully you will drop any legal argument you have against the OP and in the same way the OP will drop any legal argument against you and Rock Trading then both parties can continue without this issue hanging over them.

We cannot request funds back for a certain amount of time. I believe at least one year in case the owner of the account is not showing up ( I have to check on this).  In any case, even if possible, we would not be able to release funds without a full KYC identification. Sorry but current laws prevail on personal ideas.


Will you please kindly consider it?

What I could consider, if possible, is to let the OP choose a legal arbiter of his choice in Italy and mutually request the present one to transfer funds to the new one.

The OP has suffered a lot as a result of the funds being withheld for so long. The issue started in December 2017 and here we are in December 2021, it has been a long 4 years for the OP.

I know, but ask yourselves why?  For 4 years the OP stated that he initiated a legal procedure but, as of today, nothing....... The reason is simple: He cannot prove to be the account owner.
However, if he would consider to choose a LEGAL arbiter of his choice, I would gladly accept it


Please kindly consider bringing an end to this matter and release the funds back to the OP.

[Coinfan]

If the OP can select an arbiter for you the send the funds to they should be instructed to release the funds to the OP as long as they send KYC to the arbiter on the basis that KYC is not passed on to Rock Trading. You can send the funds and the name of the account holder to the new arbiter and as long as the OP sends appropriate KYC then that should bring the matter to an end - if the OP agrees.

I hope the OP will read these posts soon and contemplate the next step carefully when posting with an update.

Thank you again for your time and attention to my case, JollyGood.

The Rock CFO keeps posting lie and lie. Do you really think that he would honor his word? It would be a waste of time of time and money. He would find a pretext to reject the Arbiter (legal???) or the identity verification.

Just check the incredible lies:

We cannot request funds back for a certain amount of time. I believe at least one year in case the owner of the account is not showing up ( I have to check on this).

Oh, but if I created another arbiter, suddenly there would no time limit! He is the arbiter and would receive and could reject any documents sent.
He confessed that here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4975753.msg56714606#msg56714606

In any case, even if possible, we would not be able to release funds without a full KYC identification. Sorry but current laws prevail on personal ideas.

The only applicable law in Italy is the Italian Act 231/2007 changed by Act 90/2017, that doesn't demand verification of identity for bitcoin withdrawals (article 3, n. 5, i) and, in any case, says that if exchange can't verify identity must close the account (article 42, n. 1) and so return the money.
He closed my account, I'm no longer a customer, there is NO LAW about KYC here.

If he wanted to solve the issue, he would convert the euro back to bitcoin and send it back exactly to the same bitcoin address I used to deposit the bitcoins, on 1 june 2017: 19XfLqEJUx5TcBW6LmdbrJpmRCM8gi61Hu

[eliale]

I think the consideration for possibly allowing the OP to select an arbiter for their own choosing is a huge step forward. Even though what I say obviously carries no weight as far as on a personal basis I have to say I am pleasantly surprised with you being open-minded enough to try to find a resolution that will be much quicker than any legal avenue would bring.

Regardless of the ludicrous allegations that were made in this thread the past in order to misdirect from the real issues, my only concern and interest within this situation is and was that the OP should be returned their funds. If the OP can select an arbiter for you the send the funds to they should be instructed to release the funds to the OP as long as they send KYC to the arbiter on the basis that KYC is not passed on to Rock Trading. You can send the funds and the name of the account holder to the new arbiter and as long as the OP sends appropriate KYC then that should bring the matter to an end - if the OP agrees.

I hope the OP will read these posts soon and contemplate the next step carefully when posting with an update.

Thank you for the swift reply but what you wrote highlights some issues which if were conducted in a different manner would have given you and your website some credibility.

For example, why on earth choose an arbiter that you already know instead someone completely impartial? Furthermore, why even transfer the funds totally 35,000 EURO to a third party without consent from the OP?

Because we cannot rely on consent from an anonymous person. Therefore, because one of the allegations was that we didn't have the funds, we decided to move in order to prove it. Also, it was stated on the Criminal Procedure against the OP.

If what you say is correct and the OP is not asking for arbiter contact details because the OP does not want to send KYC, then that is not something that should not surprise you because the OP chose to not send you KYC after you seized their funds and I along with others advised the OP (when this scam accusation thread was created) to not send KYC in case you try to misuse it in order to take revenge on the OP.

The OP doesn't have to provide KYC to us but to the Arbiter.  

Why will you not simply ask the arbiter to either send you the funds back in order for you to send them to the OP (who is the rightful owner) or ask the arbiter to send them directly to the OP - that way the whole issue will end and hopefully you will drop any legal argument you have against the OP and in the same way the OP will drop any legal argument against you and Rock Trading then both parties can continue without this issue hanging over them.

We cannot request funds back for a certain amount of time. I believe at least one year in case the owner of the account is not showing up ( I have to check on this).  In any case, even if possible, we would not be able to release funds without a full KYC identification. Sorry but current laws prevail on personal ideas.


Will you please kindly consider it?

What I could consider, if possible, is to let the OP choose a legal arbiter of his choice in Italy and mutually request the present one to transfer funds to the new one.

The OP has suffered a lot as a result of the funds being withheld for so long. The issue started in December 2017 and here we are in December 2021, it has been a long 4 years for the OP.

I know, but ask yourselves why?  For 4 years the OP stated that he initiated a legal procedure but, as of today, nothing....... The reason is simple: He cannot prove to be the account owner.
However, if he would consider to choose a LEGAL arbiter of his choice, I would gladly accept it


Please kindly consider bringing an end to this matter and release the funds back to the OP.

Thank you.

Please, be aware that while we cannot and I don't want to call back the funds, I can instruct the Arbiter to send funds to another appointed Arbiter as per the OP request.

Also I would have to notify the Judge about this decision just to be on the safe side.

As usual, I would provide proof of the actions

[Trading]

I think the consideration for possibly allowing the OP to select an arbiter for their own choosing is a huge step forward. Even though what I say obviously carries no weight as far as on a personal basis I have to say I am pleasantly surprised with you being open-minded enough to try to find a resolution that will be much quicker than any legal avenue would bring.

Regardless of the ludicrous allegations that were made in this thread the past in order to misdirect from the real issues, my only concern and interest within this situation is and was that the OP should be returned their funds. If the OP can select an arbiter for you the send the funds to they should be instructed to release the funds to the OP as long as they send KYC to the arbiter on the basis that KYC is not passed on to Rock Trading. You can send the funds and the name of the account holder to the new arbiter and as long as the OP sends appropriate KYC then that should bring the matter to an end - if the OP agrees.

I hope the OP will read these posts soon and contemplate the next step carefully when posting with an update.

Thank you for the swift reply but what you wrote highlights some issues which if were conducted in a different manner would have given you and your website some credibility.

For example, why on earth choose an arbiter that you already know instead someone completely impartial? Furthermore, why even transfer the funds totally 35,000 EURO to a third party without consent from the OP?

Because we cannot rely on consent from an anonymous person. Therefore, because one of the allegations was that we didn't have the funds, we decided to move in order to prove it. Also, it was stated on the Criminal Procedure against the OP.

If what you say is correct and the OP is not asking for arbiter contact details because the OP does not want to send KYC, then that is not something that should not surprise you because the OP chose to not send you KYC after you seized their funds and I along with others advised the OP (when this scam accusation thread was created) to not send KYC in case you try to misuse it in order to take revenge on the OP.

The OP doesn't have to provide KYC to us but to the Arbiter. 

Why will you not simply ask the arbiter to either send you the funds back in order for you to send them to the OP (who is the rightful owner) or ask the arbiter to send them directly to the OP - that way the whole issue will end and hopefully you will drop any legal argument you have against the OP and in the same way the OP will drop any legal argument against you and Rock Trading then both parties can continue without this issue hanging over them.

We cannot request funds back for a certain amount of time. I believe at least one year in case the owner of the account is not showing up ( I have to check on this).  In any case, even if possible, we would not be able to release funds without a full KYC identification. Sorry but current laws prevail on personal ideas.


Will you please kindly consider it?

What I could consider, if possible, is to let the OP choose a legal arbiter of his choice in Italy and mutually request the present one to transfer funds to the new one.

The OP has suffered a lot as a result of the funds being withheld for so long. The issue started in December 2017 and here we are in December 2021, it has been a long 4 years for the OP.

I know, but ask yourselves why?  For 4 years the OP stated that he initiated a legal procedure but, as of today, nothing....... The reason is simple: He cannot prove to be the account owner.
However, if he would consider to choose a LEGAL arbiter of his choice, I would gladly accept it


Please kindly consider bringing an end to this matter and release the funds back to the OP.

Thank you.

Please, be aware that while we cannot and I don't want to call back the funds, I can instruct the Arbiter to send funds to another appointed Arbiter as per the OP request.

Also I would have to notify the Judge about this decision just to be on the safe side.

As usual, I would provide proof of the actions

I checked one of the OP's links to your markets before you changed it and it was more than obvious that the orderbook was forged.

What amazes me is that your customers don't report this.

This suggests that your exchange doesn't have any customers using some of your markets and the volume is forged as much as the orderbooks.

You orchestrated your crowdfunding thanks to these forged orderbooks and volume.

The OP has all reasons not to trust anything you post here.

[Coinfan]

Thank you for your continuous support, Trading.

All their orderbooks are fake. They might have a few real orders on their biggest markets, but the major part are created by their bots. Check also the videos I posted with the before and after of one of their orderbooks after my denunciation: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4975753.msg57997246#msg57997246

Please, be aware that while we cannot and I don't want to call back the funds, I can instruct the Arbiter to send funds to another appointed Arbiter as per the OP request.

Also I would have to notify the Judge about this decision just to be on the safe side.

As usual, I would provide proof of the actions

The Rock CFO managed to post a lie on every sentence he just posted.

He says he can't call back the funds, but he can order them to sent to a different person?!

But before he was saying he was subjected to a time limit. He changes his lies on every post:

We cannot request funds back for a certain amount of time.

I don't care for what he does with the money he sent to the fake arbiter/to himself. He has my money and will answer for it.

He is talking about a judge? What a complete lie! The case was archived long ago and was never sent to any judge. If the case was filled by the prosecutor he would post a copy of the decision. Something he never done.

He is saying he will post proof? He never posted the obvious decision of the prosecutor to archive the case. Instead he decided to hide this decision.

[Coinfan]

As it happened on all my accusations that the Rock Trading Exchange has fake orderbooks and volume the Rock CFO also didn't deny the same accusations from Trading. There was no need, but he is just confessing again the fraud that is the exchange that he manages and owns.

Check also what he wrote on a second post about my case on another of his (italian) threads about the Rock Exchange:

Se la legittima proprietaria o i legittimi eredi non si manifestano dopo un certo numero di anni, esiste una norma che regolamenta il tutto.  In ogni caso, i legali dell'arbitro ci comunicheranno l'Iter che seguiranno in base alle normative vigenti.

Translation:
If the legitimate owner or the legitimate heirs do not manifest themselves after a certain number of years, there is a norm that regulates this.  In any case, the arbitrator's lawyers will inform us of the procedure they will follow according to the regulations in force.

What a complete lie! Check how vague he is: he writes about a "norm" that regulates my case, without identifying it. Naturally!

Writes that this "norm" only applies after "a certain number of years", without identifying the number. 4 years passed by since he blocked secretively my withdrawals on December 2017, but he invented a norm and hides the details in order to try to clean his attempts to keep my money.

Again he invokes the "arbiter" whose identity he is hiding and that is himself, some legal person he created and controls or someone under his orders.

But on his last post above he demanded that any arbitrator must be

LEGAL arbiter[/b]

His fake hided arbiter is a "legal" one?

[eliale]

His fake hided arbiter is a "legal" one?

Yes they are however, as previously said, if you wish to appoint a new one, I'll gladly consider it. The prcoedure is quite simple: your Arbiter will send the request to our, we will notify the Judge about the change and agree about the transfer.

Thank you