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July 20, 2019, 03:14:00 PM
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I just have yet to see an intellectually honest argument that suggests BSV has merits beyond its creator supposedly being Satoshi Nakamoto.

Of course not. You are coming to this with an internal bias that prevents you from honest analysis.

If you can't see that the capacity for increased numbers of transactions is additional utility, that's on you.

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July 20, 2019, 03:21:21 PM
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I just have yet to see an intellectually honest argument that suggests BSV has merits beyond its creator supposedly being Satoshi Nakamoto.

Of course not. You are coming to this with an internal bias that prevents you from honest analysis.

If you can't see that the capacity for increased numbers of transactions is additional utility, that's on you.

An additional utility at what cost? At the cost of an unwieldy blockchain and leading down the slope toward centralization. As I previously mentioned, we already have a big block experiment and it currently averages around 160 KB per block. BSV won't start to become relevant as a technically meritable until BCH's blocks get filled.

Block size limitation has fostered innovation the likes of which BCH and BSV can only dream of, which is why they hate SegWit LN to the absurd degree that they do.

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July 20, 2019, 03:32:25 PM
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I just have yet to see an intellectually honest argument that suggests BSV has merits beyond its creator supposedly being Satoshi Nakamoto.

Of course not. You are coming to this with an internal bias that prevents you from honest analysis.

If you can't see that the capacity for increased numbers of transactions is additional utility, that's on you.

An additional utility at what cost? At the cost of an unwieldy blockchain and leading down the slope toward centralization.

I'll refer to that sentence as A.

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As I previously mentioned, we already have a big block experiment and it currently averages around 160 KB per block.

I'll refer to that sentence as B.

Claiming both A and B is logically inconsistent.

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BSV won't start to become relevant as a technically meritable until BCH's blocks get filled.

Well, on the blocksize basis alone, I'd need to agree. However, there are other characteristics that distinguish these two chains.

Regardless, there are clearly other merits besides one of its prominent promoter's claim of being satoshi.

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Block size limitation has fostered innovation the likes of which BCH and BSV can only dream of, which is why they hate SegWit LN to the absurd degree that they do.

No. Porting SegWit to BSV would be a straightforward task. We prefer Bitcoin SV to Bitcoin SegWit -- in part -- as Bitcoin SegWit provides additional attack vectors that are not present in the original protocol.

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July 20, 2019, 04:00:28 PM
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I just have yet to see an intellectually honest argument that suggests BSV has merits beyond its creator supposedly being Satoshi Nakamoto.

Of course not. You are coming to this with an internal bias that prevents you from honest analysis.

If you can't see that the capacity for increased numbers of transactions is additional utility, that's on you.

An additional utility at what cost? At the cost of an unwieldy blockchain and leading down the slope toward centralization.

I'll refer to that sentence as A.

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As I previously mentioned, we already have a big block experiment and it currently averages around 160 KB per block.

I'll refer to that sentence as B.

Claiming both A and B is logically inconsistent.

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BSV won't start to become relevant as a technically meritable until BCH's blocks get filled.

Well, on the blocksize basis alone, I'd need to agree. However, there are other characteristics that distinguish these two chains.

Regardless, there are clearly other merits besides one of its prominent promoter's claim of being satoshi.

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Block size limitation has fostered innovation the likes of which BCH and BSV can only dream of, which is why they hate SegWit LN to the absurd degree that they do.

No. Porting SegWit to BSV would be a straightforward task. We prefer Bitcoin SV to Bitcoin SegWit -- in part -- as Bitcoin SegWit provides additional attack vectors that are not present in the original protocol.

I always enjoy reading my fav bear's arguments being on point as well as in such an eloquent English only mother lang might be able to.

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July 20, 2019, 04:21:41 PM
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Thanks to all who supporting us. Ahead we have very big plans for scaling. The project is successfully developing and gaining community. BSV - is a future. Right choice. Original Bitcoin. Satoshi Vision
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July 21, 2019, 08:10:17 AM
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Thanks to all who supporting us. Ahead we have very big plans for scaling. The project is successfully developing and gaining community. BSV - is a future. Right choice. Original Bitcoin. Satoshi Vision

Yeah, we try. But so many good news posts getting deleted- i wonder why?

But Bitcoin is totally about PoW, so folks need to fetch stuff from different places by own work,
Bitcoin and Satoshi do not owe anyone more. Things are all out for anyone to analyze and make up own mind and decisions.

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July 21, 2019, 09:08:17 AM
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Deleting posts is "Proof of Work"
Someone is working to delete the posts, another BitCoiner.

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July 21, 2019, 09:37:31 AM
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An additional utility at what cost? At the cost of an unwieldy blockchain and leading down the slope toward centralization.

I'll refer to that sentence as A.

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As I previously mentioned, we already have a big block experiment and it currently averages around 160 KB per block.

I'll refer to that sentence as B.

Claiming both A and B is logically inconsistent.

Here's an equally-weighted counterargument: It's not.

Regardless, there are clearly other merits besides one of its prominent promoter's claim of being satoshi.

Such as? Anything bitcoin hasn't already done?

No. Porting SegWit to BSV would be a straightforward task. We prefer Bitcoin SV to Bitcoin SegWit -- in part -- as Bitcoin SegWit provides additional attack vectors that are not present in the original protocol.

... you mean theoretical "attack vectors" that have yet to actually be exploited. Plenty of those have existed in the Bitcoin protocol since Day 1. At least you're not trying to justify the silly hatred of LN by big blockers.

But so many good news posts getting deleted- i wonder why?

Deleting posts is "Proof of Work"
Someone is working to delete the posts, another BitCoiner.

This is quite literally the 5th time I am explaining it to you: you are not allowed to double-post. Its considered to be unnecessary thread bumping, and is one of the only rules this forum has. If you were the last person to post in a thread, simply edit your last post instead of post a new one. There is now no reason to wonder why or blame a conspiracy ever again.

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July 21, 2019, 10:06:02 AM
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Bitcoin and Satoshi are no longer monopolists at cryptocurrencies. Monopolism - is not good for crypto ecosystem
BSV - is necessary part of anti-monopolism and decentralization

so many good news posts getting deleted- i wonder why?
Possible by mistake or maybe these posts was quoting trolling.

Nevertheless, trolling from nutildah and other trolls - is helps to promoting BSV too
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July 21, 2019, 11:21:56 AM
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Some nice vids about Adam Smith freedom of Society

https://youtu.be/e3w98cTDwWQ

And freedom of use in BSV

https://youtu.be/LygbBOznCfQ

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July 21, 2019, 11:51:04 AM
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Last deleted one was about good news from DriveMarkets listing BSV.
Sorry for this inexperienced employee from our team. He was already fired

But sure, dont tell the trolls they are helpful trigger for BSV success, they only come in barking on good news.
Trolls - are the best free promoters
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July 21, 2019, 01:25:56 PM
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Oh I havnt seen yet:

https://cryptonize.it

Is back working?

Buy things online using BitCoin

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July 21, 2019, 02:36:57 PM
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Oh I havnt seen yet:

https://cryptonize.it

Is back working?

Buy things online using BitCoin
I don't see any option to use bitcoin. Just shitcoin

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Oh I havnt seen yet:

https://cryptonize.it

Is back working?

Buy things online using BitCoin
I don't see any option to use bitcoin. Just shitcoin

Segshitcoin is obsolete
https://mobile.twitter.com/riverish333/status/1152575517176020993

You wont see it

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I honestly can't see it

He's taking you for fools

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July 21, 2019, 07:15:58 PM
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I honestly can't see it

He's taking you for fools

Check e.g. his Bitcoin IP created. That would show ur honest. But u re just trolling of fear

Or d u rather like to see more of this?

https://cointelegraph.com/news/bank-of-america-files-patent-for-settlement-system-citing-ripple

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Regardless, there are clearly other merits besides one of its prominent promoter's claim of being satoshi.

Such as? Anything bitcoin hasn't already done?

Nice shifting of the goalposts, inasmuch as I assume you are now referring to BTC where you were previously referring to BCH.

But that said, the answer is yes. Such as OP_MUL, for one.

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No. Porting SegWit to BSV would be a straightforward task. We prefer Bitcoin SV to Bitcoin SegWit -- in part -- as Bitcoin SegWit provides additional attack vectors that are not present in the original protocol.

... you mean theoretical "attack vectors" that have yet to actually be exploited.

Some yes, some no. The most grievous attack vector has not been exploited as of yet, this is true. And good thing too. For if it ever does get exploited, it may in itself prove fatal for BTC.

RBF, OTOH, has been exploited.
 
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At least you're not trying to justify the silly hatred of LN by big blockers.

Well, you didn't ask about LN's weaknesses. You asked specifically about those of SegWit.

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But that said, the answer is yes. Such as OP_MUL, for one.

Was already in bitcoin and was disabled. Not exactly breakthrough technology we're talking about here.

RBF, OTOH, has been exploited.

Oh, you mean somebody accepting a zero confirmation transaction as payment that is later double spent? That's not an exploit.

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At least you're not trying to justify the silly hatred of LN by big blockers.

Well, you didn't ask about LN's weaknesses. You asked specifically about those of SegWit.

My comment stems from the second half of this sentence, which I apparently left an "and" out of between SegWit and LN -- you only addressed the SegWit portion:

Block size limitation has fostered innovation the likes of which BCH and BSV can only dream of, which is why they hate SegWit LN to the absurd degree that they do.

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July 22, 2019, 06:33:13 AM
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1) no need to think about the fees in the wallet does not even have such an option, the Commission is always minimal.
2) cold storage is possible on the phone unlike BTC
3) the coin is very undervalued, there is much to grow in contrast to bitcoin, which will grow or fall is unknown
4) BSV friendly with government and regulation, then can ban BTC and all other altcoins but allow BSV only
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1) no need to think about the fees in the wallet does not even have such an option, the Commission is always minimal.
2) cold storage is possible on the phone unlike BTC
3) the coin is very undervalued, there is much to grow in contrast to bitcoin, which will grow or fall is unknown
4) BSV friendly with government and regulation, then can ban BTC and all other altcoins but allow BSV only
Did you really just say that?
Maybe you don't get crypto it seems. Hilarious

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