who can give a snapshot of the present state of BSV ?
there is a warning on this thread, may i invest ?
A more solid investment would just be to focus on bitcoin,
Sorry, man. From a protocol perspective, BSV is the Bitcoiniest of the Bitcoins.
Yeah, BTC currently has the bulk of the market behind it. But that is not fundamentals. Just popularity. Which can shift on a whim. Perhaps induced by the upcoming Blockalypse II.
Are you willing to accept network effects, such as the 7 network effects outlined by Trace Mayer?
Of course. Network effect is a real attractor, but not an unassailable prohibitive barrier. If BTC returns to a state of severely compromised usefulness due to the centrally-planned production quota upon tx rate, this provides a force that acts in opposition to the network effect.
At least we kind of narrow into some kind of seeming relevancy, here, which I believe boils down to your making some pretty BIG ASS assumptions regarding something like BSV to take over BTC's network effects.
Will it be a large enough force to overcome that of the network effect? I think it likely, though I admit it is unknowable in any a priori sense. Any way, reasonable people can argue either side of that hypothesis.
That part is true, and also reasonable people should be attempting to put their money where their mouth is too, at least in terms of if they are actually genuinely speaking about their beliefs in one protocol or the other or the degree to which they believe that relative value is going to change - whether long-term or short-term.
You believe that those could flip on a dime, assuming that it is discovered that segwit is flawed, and all the bitcoiners (including regular folks, developers, miners, financialization, etc) will just bounce over to bcash SV?
Don't be silly, silly. I make no argument that such would be an easy fait accompli.
Surely your ongoing assertion that BSV is likely to take over BTC based on some supposed and alleged ongoing defects in BTC should reasonably put you in a category of assertions in which you are implying, more or less, that BSV's take over is "an easy fait accompli"... but whatever, perhaps can give you some benefit of the doubt on what seems to be a kind of shifting or shifty position that you seem to be taking from my perspective.... of what I care to know about what seems to be your position.
But if BTC returns to a state of uselessness, then what is the alternative?
This seems to be a decent example of your attempt to read the facts in a much different way than me in terms of a supposed state of bitcoin's presumed brokenness.... so yeah, you use the word "returns" which suggests a set of facts that seem to be more of a spin than an actual reasonable assessment of the actual facts, from my perspective.
When the pain of trying to stay on BTC exceeds the pain of adopting BSV, rational people would move to BSV.
This implies a couple of things. 1) that there is some kind of pain in staying on BTC, which to me seems to be a BIG ASS presumption. Sure such "pain" could develop, but I will have to wait to see if something like that were to actually happen to any kind of level that approaches what you are speculating to be within the cards of possible set of facts and 2) that BSV would be a logical gravitation point for folks. give me a fucking break regarding anyone besides scammers and wanna get rich quick dubbed folks believing in that crap.
Anyhow, you would need both of those above describe presumptions to play out in your favor in order for your speculative scenario to become a reality, and from my current thinking, even accomplishing both of those presumptions would be a pretty BIG accomplishment and should not be lightly presumed.
You think that these various aspects of the community would transfer their confidence in bitcoin to go over to stupid ass incompetent smoke and mirrors scam coin like bcash sv?
Your characterization as 'scam coin' belies your inability to think rationally through this matter.
I don't know if I need to think rationally about this or not. Like I already mentioned, if bitcoin is not broken, then it is going to be hard as hell for you and your dumbass little coin to be able to take over bitcoin, and you seem to want to relatively lightly presume that bitcoin is broken in some kind of meaningful and material way that would be significant enough for your baloney to fall into place.
So, yeah, perhaps the scam is the ongoing presentation coming from the side of your butt buddy BSVers who are trying to propagate facts and logic that defies reality...and that is why it rises to the reasonably concluded level of scam in my thinking and in the thinking of a lot of others who are attempting to look at the matter with any kind of level of understanding of the facts and/or logic.
Unless of course, you can justify your characterization of the SV coin and blockchain as some sort of scam - a position I have never seen articulated in any intellectually honest manner.
I don't have any burden to prove my assertions, so yeah you can continue to go on saying that your coin is not a scam and that you have facts and logic to back up your ongoing bullshit and wishful speculation and false narrative claims.. and several of us, including yours truly can continue to assert that you and your other BSV promoting butt buddies are trying to scam people with your misrepresentations of fact and your weak ass logic, to the extent that there might be much if any logic there.
