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July 16, 2019, 05:43:45 AM
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who can give a snapshot of the present state of BSV ?

there is a warning on this thread, may i invest ?


Pump and dump scamcoin BSV has been doing pretty good on a price performance level in recent times, if we take a 3 month view....

Good luck gambling your assets on that shit.  You might get lucky, if those scamming nutjobs are ready, willing and able to pump more capital into that shady-ass shenanigans crap.

A more solid investment would just be to focus on bitcoin, but I understand that wanna get rich folks don't mind gambling on crap and don't have enough patience or even understanding about what the fuck bitcoin is in order to invest in  actual bitcoin rather than smoke and mirrors that may or may not end up paying off in terms of having any kind of meaningful and lasting pump potential that allows you to get in and out before its inevitable trip to zero.. but that trip to zero could be 10 years away, so invest the fuck into that crap if you are in the land of wishfulness that might end up paying off.

The only idiots telling ppl about gambeling, speculation and hodle are you guys.

Bitcoin is FIRST a immutable data ledger, the only one that worked, cause it needed an incentive (read the refs from the White Paper)

This incentive got perverted by the troll Level usecase - hodl.

Satoshi Vision is not about hodl, but about the data ledger and its commodity like value.


The bad message for hodl trolls is: we cannot fix u - caus hodl Virus eats ur tiny (small blocked) Brains - nothing left

Oh my!!!!!!  Retard chimes in.

Yes, an underlying principle of bitcoin is its store of value, you diptwat.  You can spend it if you want, and there are both abilities on chain and at the second layer level to spend bitcoin, if you want to do it.

On the other hand, there are so god damned many avenues to spend other shit, including fiat or bcash or other cryptos, so why the fuck is anyone going to want to spend their special bitcoins, including accounting bullshit and tax implications that are imposed in some locations. 

Even though bitcoin can be spent currently, I remain hesitant to suggest that satoshi (to the extent that his original vision matters) would have been pushing for spending straight out of the gate because those kinds of ideas do not align with the overall disruptive vision that satoshi held regarding how bitcoin would likely become a gravitational force for the value to go into it and that is how such a money would reach global reserve status....

You dumb ass, logically, think about it. 

There is no fucking way for bitcoin to appreciate in value or to become global reserve currency without having value that people are incentivized to gravitate into.. so recall satoshi said that bitcoin will be worth nothing or a whole hell of a lot, so in order for bitcoin to be worth a whole hell of a lot, it should not going aiming to be the first thing that anyone would want to spend..

Your underlying presumption about striving to spend first goes contrary to greshams law and also contrary to the BIGGER satoshi vision.. and surely your scammer figure head, craig wright shows that he does not even understand the foundational thoughts of the person that he is trying to propagate his stupid-ass contradictory scammy self to be.

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July 16, 2019, 05:51:13 AM
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who can give a snapshot of the present state of BSV ?

there is a warning on this thread, may i invest ?

A more solid investment would just be to focus on bitcoin,


Sorry, man. From a protocol perspective, BSV is the Bitcoiniest of the Bitcoins.

Yeah, BTC currently has the bulk of the market behind it. But that is not fundamentals. Just popularity. Which can shift on a whim. Perhaps induced by the upcoming Blockalypse II.

Yes... case in point, above = wishful thinking.

I don't really feel inclined to argue with you about your various bullshit including your strong presumption that something is broken in regards to bitcoin's current scaling dynamic that includes segregated witness and the building upon various segregated witness solutions.  I consider the bcasher arguments to be bunk in that regard...

But perhaps setting apart your possible blindspot (subconscious perhaps?) desire to pump your bags, let's just assume for the sake of argument that segregated witness is flawed.. which is a BIG ASS assumption that is the wet dream of basher nutjobs, but let's merely attempt to focus, for the sake of argument, on network effects.

Are you willing to accept network effects, such as the 7 network effects outlined by Trace Mayer?  You believe that those could flip on a dime, assuming that it is discovered that segwit is flawed, and all the bitcoiners (including regular folks, developers, miners, financialization, etc) will just bounce over to bcash SV?  You think that these various aspects of the community would transfer their confidence in bitcoin to go over to stupid ass incompetent smoke and mirrors scam coin like bcash sv?  

I kind of already know your answer is going to be to assert that they are going to just move over to bcash sv, and surely, from my thinking, just to preemptively strike your anticipated bullshit response, your anticipated bullshit response is going to be filled with some decently large ass assumptions that have to be built upon and built upon and built upon in order for your fantasy of bitcoin network effects moving over to bcash to be even close to being a feasible proposal (beyond pure fantasy).  Good luck bcash svers with the fantasies built on a large as house of cards that is constructed with assumption, after assumption after assumption, each of which must stand before the fantasy of jbreher and other bcashers is even close to being feasible, even if the other part of the most bitcoin of the bitcoins were to be true beyond a lovely marketing expression that tries to take bcash out of its name.    Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Again: BTC Network effect is only about hodl and scam newbees to buy and hodl

Satosh is about the global data ledger - that solves many problems.

Compete - just hate will lead u nowhere

Surely, you are not really adding anything of value, hv_.. and you seem to be just spouting out some nonsense talking points that don't really add up to anything beyond your own ongoing misunderstandings (likely purposeful) regarding what bitcoin continues to be.. which is multiple things, including the global ledger that you mentioned (for important things not random and trivial things).. you diptwat.  


People can use bitcoin for whatever they want, and if they are going to put matters on level 1, then they better be willing to pay for the limited space, so in that regard it seems that we really don't need to put the weather on BTC, like bcash sv seems to want to do..

I guess unless you are inclined to spend the decently high fee to put that kind of crap on bitcoin that would likely result from attempting to accomplish putting a bunch of stuff on BTC that does not need to be (because there does not seem to be room for nonsense or spam and if you want to use bitcoin for nonsense and spam, then you are going to have to pay for that.. poor lil tinglies)... Anyhow, level 1 is secure and such security and immutability is going to have a cost, which seems to play right into the justification for keeping blocks small in order to not have that bullshit non-valuable stuff clogging up an otherwise valuable network of security  ...  

Money, on the other hand, especially anything beyond pocket change (surely amounts that need to be ironclad levels of secure will vary from person to person), should be more secure, so good thing  that we can put those kinds of larger amounts  of money (oh getting back to fuck you levels of storage of value) on  layer 1 of bitcoin and bitcoin remains the most secure which gives it a whole fucking lot of value that you diptwat bcashers seem to fail and refuse to understand, which is likely intentional because you should not be believing a lot of the bullshit that you come up with in order to stir shit and engage in ongoing and seemingly increasingly futile and impotent.

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who can give a snapshot of the present state of BSV ?

there is a warning on this thread, may i invest ?

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Desktop wallets:

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https://bsv101.com/

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCoWA4QI_uEMYV2WXbLbDVNQ (BSV Channel)

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July 16, 2019, 06:30:49 AM
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who can give a snapshot of the present state of BSV ?

there is a warning on this thread, may i invest ?

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Team Bcash sv has been working with a lot of diligence to create a variety of smoke and mirrors to attempt to attract as many suckers as possible in order that some of the bcash sv bagholders might be able to dump their crap onto newbie (don't know any better) suckers.

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who can give a snapshot of the present state of BSV ?

The present state of BSV is that Craig's evidence that he might have been Satoshi (or at least 1/2 of Satoshi) has been thoroughly ridiculed in and out of court, forcing Craig's laywers to withdrawal the bulk of it, as it appears it was forged by Craig.

Let's be honest: As a fork of a fork that is attempting to emulate an early, antiquated version of the Bitcoin protocol, BSV doesn't have the technical merits to stand on its own legs, which is why Craig is making such a to-do about being Satoshi.

One needn't look any further than BSV's price action in response to the whole copyright filing fake news job by Coingeek to see that most of BSV's market cap rests on the fallacy that Wright is Satoshi.


From a protocol perspective, BSV is the Bitcoiniest of the Bitcoins.

Yeah, BTC currently has the bulk of the market behind it. But that is not fundamentals. Just popularity. Which can shift on a whim. Perhaps induced by the upcoming Blockalypse II.

At least your rehashing this tired garbage for the umpteenth time in the correct thread.





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who can give a snapshot of the present state of BSV ?

The present state of BSV is that Craig's evidence that he might have been Satoshi (or at least 1/2 of Satoshi) has been thoroughly ridiculed in and out of court, forcing Craig's laywers to withdrawal the bulk of it, as it appears it was forged by Craig.

Let's be honest: As a fork of a fork that is attempting to emulate an early, antiquated version of the Bitcoin protocol, BSV doesn't have the technical merits to stand on its own legs, which is why Craig is making such a to-do about being Satoshi.

One needn't look any further than BSV's price action in response to the whole copyright filing fake news job by Coingeek to see that most of BSV's market cap rests on the fallacy that Wright is Satoshi.


From a protocol perspective, BSV is the Bitcoiniest of the Bitcoins.

Yeah, BTC currently has the bulk of the market behind it. But that is not fundamentals. Just popularity. Which can shift on a whim. Perhaps induced by the upcoming Blockalypse II.

At least your rehashing this tired garbage for the umpteenth time in the correct thread.


Your life must be easy if you can correlate some fiat price to a prejudge / proof  - too trolly


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why the capitalisation dipped by 2 times compared to bnb? previously were the same

 Cheesy https://twitter.com/cz_binance/status/1150953526090067968?s=20

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why the capitalisation dipped by 2 times compared to bnb? previously were the same

 Cheesy https://twitter.com/cz_binance/status/1150953526090067968?s=20

Funny how you just ignore answers to your question to continue posting nonsense. An $80 million haircut on BNB market cap on CMC.. Boo hoo... They're still approximately $0.8 billion bigger than BSV. What's it feel like to have your "real bitcoin" so thoroughly whopped by an Ethereum token?  Cheesy





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who can give a snapshot of the present state of BSV ?

there is a warning on this thread, may i invest ?

A more solid investment would just be to focus on bitcoin,


Sorry, man. From a protocol perspective, BSV is the Bitcoiniest of the Bitcoins.

Yeah, BTC currently has the bulk of the market behind it. But that is not fundamentals. Just popularity. Which can shift on a whim. Perhaps induced by the upcoming Blockalypse II.

Are you willing to accept network effects, such as the 7 network effects outlined by Trace Mayer?  

Of course. Network effect is a real attractor. But it is not an unassailable prohibitive barrier. If BTC returns to a state of severely compromised usefulness due to the centrally-planned production quota upon tx rate, this provides a force that acts in opposition to the network effect. Will it be a large enough force to overcome that of the network effect? I think it likely, though I admit it is unknowable in any a priori sense. Any way, reasonable people can argue either side of that hypothesis.

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You believe that those could flip on a dime, assuming that it is discovered that segwit is flawed, and all the bitcoiners (including regular folks, developers, miners, financialization, etc) will just bounce over to bcash SV?  

Don't be silly, silly. I make no argument that such would be an easy fait accompli. But if BTC returns to a state of uselessness, then what is the alternative? When the pain of trying to stay on BTC exceeds the pain of adopting BSV, rational people would move to BSV.

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You think that these various aspects of the community would transfer their confidence in bitcoin to go over to stupid ass incompetent smoke and mirrors scam coin like bcash sv?

Your characterization as 'scam coin' belies your inability to think rationally through this matter. Unless of course, you can justify your characterization of the SV coin and blockchain as some sort of scam - a position I have never seen articulated in any intellectually honest manner.

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July 16, 2019, 08:20:50 PM
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who can give a snapshot of the present state of BSV ?

there is a warning on this thread, may i invest ?

A more solid investment would just be to focus on bitcoin,


Sorry, man. From a protocol perspective, BSV is the Bitcoiniest of the Bitcoins.

Yeah, BTC currently has the bulk of the market behind it. But that is not fundamentals. Just popularity. Which can shift on a whim. Perhaps induced by the upcoming Blockalypse II.

Are you willing to accept network effects, such as the 7 network effects outlined by Trace Mayer? 

Of course. Network effect is a real attractor, but not an unassailable prohibitive barrier. If BTC returns to a state of severely compromised usefulness due to the centrally-planned production quota upon tx rate, this provides a force that acts in opposition to the network effect.

At least we kind of narrow into some kind of seeming relevancy, here, which I believe boils down to your making some pretty BIG ASS assumptions regarding something like BSV to take over BTC's network effects.



Will it be a large enough force to overcome that of the network effect? I think it likely, though I admit it is unknowable in any a priori sense. Any way, reasonable people can argue either side of that hypothesis.

That part is true, and also reasonable people should be attempting to put their money where their mouth is too, at least in terms of if they are actually genuinely speaking about their beliefs in one protocol or the other or the degree to which they believe that relative value is going to change - whether long-term or short-term.

You believe that those could flip on a dime, assuming that it is discovered that segwit is flawed, and all the bitcoiners (including regular folks, developers, miners, financialization, etc) will just bounce over to bcash SV? 

Don't be silly, silly. I make no argument that such would be an easy fait accompli.

Surely your ongoing assertion that BSV is likely to take over BTC based on some supposed and alleged ongoing defects in BTC should reasonably put you in a category of assertions in which you are implying, more or less, that BSV's take over is "an easy fait accompli"... but whatever, perhaps can give you some benefit of the doubt on what seems to be a kind of shifting or shifty position that you seem to be taking from my perspective.... of what I care to know about what seems to be your position.

But if BTC returns to a state of uselessness, then what is the alternative?
 

This seems to be a decent example of your attempt to read the facts in a much different way than me in terms of a supposed state of bitcoin's presumed brokenness.... so yeah, you use the word "returns" which suggests a set of facts that seem to be more of a spin than an actual reasonable assessment of the actual facts, from my perspective.




When the pain of trying to stay on BTC exceeds the pain of adopting BSV, rational people would move to BSV.
 

This implies a couple of things.  1) that there is some kind of pain in staying on BTC, which to me seems to be a BIG ASS presumption.  Sure such "pain" could develop, but I will have to wait to see if something like that were to actually happen to any kind of level that approaches what you are speculating to be within the cards of possible set of facts and 2) that BSV would be a logical gravitation point for folks.  give me a fucking break regarding anyone besides scammers and wanna get rich quick dubbed folks believing in that crap.

Anyhow, you would need both of those above describe presumptions to play out in your favor in order for your speculative scenario to become a reality, and from my current thinking, even accomplishing both of those presumptions would be a pretty BIG accomplishment and should not be lightly presumed.
 

You think that these various aspects of the community would transfer their confidence in bitcoin to go over to stupid ass incompetent smoke and mirrors scam coin like bcash sv? 

Your characterization as 'scam coin' belies your inability to think rationally through this matter.
 

I don't know if I need to think rationally about this or not.  Like I already mentioned, if bitcoin is not broken, then it is going to be hard as hell for you and your dumbass little coin to be able to take over bitcoin, and  you seem to want to relatively lightly presume that bitcoin is broken in some kind  of  meaningful and material way that would be significant enough for your baloney to fall into place.

So, yeah, perhaps the scam is the ongoing presentation coming from the side of your butt buddy BSVers who are trying to propagate facts and logic that defies reality...and that is why it rises to the reasonably concluded level of scam in my thinking and in the thinking of a lot of others who are attempting to look at the matter with any kind of level of understanding of the facts and/or logic.
 

Unless of course, you can justify your characterization of the SV coin and blockchain as some sort of scam - a position I have never seen articulated in any intellectually honest manner.

I don't have any burden to prove my assertions, so yeah you can continue to go on saying that your coin is not a scam and that you have facts and logic to back up your ongoing bullshit and wishful speculation and false narrative claims.. and several of us, including yours truly can  continue to assert that you and your other BSV promoting butt buddies are trying to scam people with your misrepresentations of fact and your weak ass logic, to the extent that there might be much if any logic there.

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To enable and foster global trade with cheap but safe use of the open blockchain concept, only proven to work by Bitcoin, we need an absolute stable reliable scalable protocol and system for that bootstrapping

We see it coming

https://twitter.com/RealCoinGeek/status/1152176762287284225

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I just have yet to see an intellectually honest argument that suggests BSV has merits beyond its creator supposedly being Satoshi Nakamoto.





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1) no need to think about the fees in the wallet does not even have such an option, the Commission is always minimal.
2) cold storage is possible on the phone unlike BTC
3) the coin is very undervalued, there is much to grow in contrast to bitcoin, which will grow or fall is unknown

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July 20, 2019, 01:31:57 PM
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1) no need to think about the fees in the wallet does not even have such an option, the Commission is always minimal.
2) cold storage is possible on the phone unlike BTC
3) the coin is very undervalued, there is much to grow in contrast to bitcoin, which will grow or fall is unknown

'The coin' is actually BitCoin as it was supposed to be and on purpose.

It is a great luck that big guys with decent mind set support it AS IS.

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the lack of negativity is only a good thing  Smiley

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the lack of negativity is only a good thing  Smiley

As much as the lack of 'protocol features' where applications will do all the fun on a stable backbone

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July 20, 2019, 02:22:03 PM
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Reality check,  1 BSV = 1 BSV

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I just have yet to see an intellectually honest argument that suggests BSV has merits beyond its creator supposedly being Satoshi Nakamoto.

Of course not. You are coming to this with an internal bias that prevents you from honest analysis.

If you can't see that the capacity for increased numbers of transactions is additional utility, that's on you.

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I just have yet to see an intellectually honest argument that suggests BSV has merits beyond its creator supposedly being Satoshi Nakamoto.

Of course not. You are coming to this with an internal bias that prevents you from honest analysis.

If you can't see that the capacity for increased numbers of transactions is additional utility, that's on you.

An additional utility at what cost? At the cost of an unwieldy blockchain and leading down the slope toward centralization. As I previously mentioned, we already have a big block experiment and it currently averages around 160 KB per block. BSV won't start to become relevant as a technically meritable until BCH's blocks get filled.

Block size limitation has fostered innovation the likes of which BCH and BSV can only dream of, which is why they hate SegWit LN to the absurd degree that they do.





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I just have yet to see an intellectually honest argument that suggests BSV has merits beyond its creator supposedly being Satoshi Nakamoto.

Of course not. You are coming to this with an internal bias that prevents you from honest analysis.

If you can't see that the capacity for increased numbers of transactions is additional utility, that's on you.

An additional utility at what cost? At the cost of an unwieldy blockchain and leading down the slope toward centralization.

I'll refer to that sentence as A.

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As I previously mentioned, we already have a big block experiment and it currently averages around 160 KB per block.

I'll refer to that sentence as B.

Claiming both A and B is logically inconsistent.

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BSV won't start to become relevant as a technically meritable until BCH's blocks get filled.

Well, on the blocksize basis alone, I'd need to agree. However, there are other characteristics that distinguish these two chains.

Regardless, there are clearly other merits besides one of its prominent promoter's claim of being satoshi.

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Block size limitation has fostered innovation the likes of which BCH and BSV can only dream of, which is why they hate SegWit LN to the absurd degree that they do.

No. Porting SegWit to BSV would be a straightforward task. We prefer Bitcoin SV to Bitcoin SegWit -- in part -- as Bitcoin SegWit provides additional attack vectors that are not present in the original protocol.

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