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[tosha001]

 :)ready to help, that in my abilities
to say, what to do and I'll do it on Russian forum. I'm already on the Russian forum was declared the action: any publication in the media is sent coins! I can again such an action to declare

[tosha001]

faucet again empty. I'm a little added http://explorer.epawncoin.com/faucet

[MsCollec]

I think that once ePawncoin IPO starts the price will skyrocket from the level it ill be on on 12th May.
If my estimations are correct:

There are approximately 7 milions Pawncoins mined so far, but 20 must be used in order to buy all 40 milions ePawncoins.
So, according to devs plan:

1. 7 milions Pawncoin goes into ePawncoins on price x.
2. Devs sell them at price of 2x.
3. Next 7 milions goes into the ePawncoin IPO.
4. Devs sell them for 2 * 2x price = 4x of the inital price
5. Third and last round of 7 milions (3 * 7 = approximatelly 20 milions) goes into the IPO.
6. Devs sell the 7 milions on a price of 2 * 4x = 8x the initial price.

So if we accept that all the IPO will be sold this just will work at least until the third round. Because there will be no other option to buy all ePawncoins apart from using the total Pawncoins in existance 3 times. And if people want to buy ePawncoin till the end they will buy the Pawncoins even on double price the first and the second time for sure. The third time however it will be not linked anymore with the IPO demand, but if then Pawnshop opens, people willing to take loans will have to first sell the PAWNs they get supposedly on the price of coinpod, set by devs. However, when they do return the coins they will have to buy even more, again on this price. So in summary, if the IPO of ePawn goes to the end we will get a sure 4x increase in price since 12th of May. And if Pawnshop goes live and bring liquidity we will get 8x.
I am not counthing in all this the multipool, possible price fixing to physical goods value as proposed before, and factors such as inertion of the crowd when the price is going up. If we assume all these would bring up another 2x, we would see a fast 8x rise and a potentional 16x rise when Pawnshop opens.

Question is: what can we do so that the price rise even more until 12th so that the initial level is even higher? If we do 5x this would mean 5 * 8 = 40x when the Epawncoin IPO is over.
What about giveaway and promotion in China? Provenconday made significant rise in price due to the promotion and giveaway in China. I think that this was the reason for the jump from 1k to 6k in 2-3 days. Can provenconday start promotion in China and tosha in Russia in the same time? Because these are two big countries. And lets say 10 most active members here donate each 5k for promotion, including me, of course.
However, giveaway should be with purpose. Let's say, include my analyses from above, explaining why price should go up, and making people buy coins on exchanges before price goes even higher. This is not bad for people and we will not mislead them, because they still with create a bubble, however, the bubble with not explode but will just be the floor for the next bubble, which will be the ePawncoin IPO. When the ePawncoin IPO reach its top also, if devs do their job and start running the pawnshop, this second bubble with not explode as well but will also continue to grow, as the idea behind PAWN is not pump and dump and it is really offering constant stability of price. And for example, offer the following: once people prove they have bought some amounts of coins they get 5% free bonus from giveaway. Provement of buying will b be with a screenshots. If there are too much people for checking screenshots we can set a minimum buy order to qualify for bonus. So if 5% are 10 members each of 5K, this means that 5% are 50K. And that the total amount of bought coins should be 20 times more so 1 milion. 1 milion bought coins will drive the price up like crazy, because this is around 20% of all coins in existance, if we do not count the frozen premine and the big whales which are holding. And do not forget the factor "inertion". On each huge raise the crawd goes in the same direction for some time, so it may go even higher.

Nice analysis.. Waiting for the IPO

[provenceday]

I think that once ePawncoin IPO starts the price will skyrocket from the level it ill be on on 12th May.
If my estimations are correct:

There are approximately 7 milions Pawncoins mined so far, but 20 must be used in order to buy all 40 milions ePawncoins.
So, according to devs plan:

1. 7 milions Pawncoin goes into ePawncoins on price x.
2. Devs sell them at price of 2x.
3. Next 7 milions goes into the ePawncoin IPO.
4. Devs sell them for 2 * 2x price = 4x of the inital price
5. Third and last round of 7 milions (3 * 7 = approximatelly 20 milions) goes into the IPO.
6. Devs sell the 7 milions on a price of 2 * 4x = 8x the initial price.

So if we accept that all the IPO will be sold this just will work at least until the third round. Because there will be no other option to buy all ePawncoins apart from using the total Pawncoins in existance 3 times. And if people want to buy ePawncoin till the end they will buy the Pawncoins even on double price the first and the second time for sure. The third time however it will be not linked anymore with the IPO demand, but if then Pawnshop opens, people willing to take loans will have to first sell the PAWNs they get supposedly on the price of coinpod, set by devs. However, when they do return the coins they will have to buy even more, again on this price. So in summary, if the IPO of ePawn goes to the end we will get a sure 4x increase in price since 12th of May. And if Pawnshop goes live and bring liquidity we will get 8x.
I am not counthing in all this the multipool, possible price fixing to physical goods value as proposed before, and factors such as inertion of the crowd when the price is going up. If we assume all these would bring up another 2x, we would see a fast 8x rise and a potentional 16x rise when Pawnshop opens.

Question is: what can we do so that the price rise even more until 12th so that the initial level is even higher? If we do 5x this would mean 5 * 8 = 40x when the Epawncoin IPO is over.
What about giveaway and promotion in China? Provenconday made significant rise in price due to the promotion and giveaway in China. I think that this was the reason for the jump from 1k to 6k in 2-3 days. Can provenconday start promotion in China and tosha in Russia in the same time? Because these are two big countries. And lets say 10 most active members here donate each 5k for promotion, including me, of course.
However, giveaway should be with purpose. Let's say, include my analyses from above, explaining why price should go up, and making people buy coins on exchanges before price goes even higher. This is not bad for people and we will not mislead them, because they still with create a bubble, however, the bubble with not explode but will just be the floor for the next bubble, which will be the ePawncoin IPO. When the ePawncoin IPO reach its top also, if devs do their job and start running the pawnshop, this second bubble with not explode as well but will also continue to grow, as the idea behind PAWN is not pump and dump and it is really offering constant stability of price. And for example, offer the following: once people prove they have bought some amounts of coins they get 5% free bonus from giveaway. Provement of buying will b be with a screenshots. If there are too much people for checking screenshots we can set a minimum buy order to qualify for bonus. So if 5% are 10 members each of 5K, this means that 5% are 50K. And that the total amount of bought coins should be 20 times more so 1 milion. 1 milion bought coins will drive the price up like crazy, because this is around 20% of all coins in existance, if we do not count the frozen premine and the big whales which are holding. And do not forget the factor "inertion". On each huge raise the crawd goes in the same direction for some time, so it may go even higher.

 

[alexje]

Voted @ 19068

[alexje]

ePawncoin IPO structure Draft copy * not yet approved by Pawncoin team

Stage 1: 20% of total ePawncoin supply
Purpose: the investment will be used for development costs.
Start: Next week
Benefits: Opportunity to be an early adaptor and get high ROI when Stage 2 begins with fixed rate.
Sharing: Total investment divided by total investors
Minimum BTC:
Minium Pawncoin:
Total Pawncoin capped:

Stage 2: 50% of total ePawncoin supply
Purpose: The rate will be set by Stage 1 investors according to their shares in Stage 1[Vote]. The sale will be open at coinpod using the fixed exchange features so that no one sells less than the Stage 1 IPO price.

Bounties: 10%

Developer: 20%

Would there be escrow on the ePawncoin? Tomatocage?

[alexje]

What's the fair Bitcoin to pawncoin rate?  0.00006?

For stage 2?

[alexje]

I think that once ePawncoin IPO starts the price will skyrocket from the level it ill be on on 12th May.
If my estimations are correct:

There are approximately 7 milions Pawncoins mined so far, but 20 must be used in order to buy all 40 milions ePawncoins.
So, according to devs plan:

1. 7 milions Pawncoin goes into ePawncoins on price x.
2. Devs sell them at price of 2x.
3. Next 7 milions goes into the ePawncoin IPO.
4. Devs sell them for 2 * 2x price = 4x of the inital price
5. Third and last round of 7 milions (3 * 7 = approximatelly 20 milions) goes into the IPO.
6. Devs sell the 7 milions on a price of 2 * 4x = 8x the initial price.

So if we accept that all the IPO will be sold this just will work at least until the third round. Because there will be no other option to buy all ePawncoins apart from using the total Pawncoins in existance 3 times. And if people want to buy ePawncoin till the end they will buy the Pawncoins even on double price the first and the second time for sure. The third time however it will be not linked anymore with the IPO demand, but if then Pawnshop opens, people willing to take loans will have to first sell the PAWNs they get supposedly on the price of coinpod, set by devs. However, when they do return the coins they will have to buy even more, again on this price. So in summary, if the IPO of ePawn goes to the end we will get a sure 4x increase in price since 12th of May. And if Pawnshop goes live and bring liquidity we will get 8x.
I am not counthing in all this the multipool, possible price fixing to physical goods value as proposed before, and factors such as inertion of the crowd when the price is going up. If we assume all these would bring up another 2x, we would see a fast 8x rise and a potentional 16x rise when Pawnshop opens.

Question is: what can we do so that the price rise even more until 12th so that the initial level is even higher? If we do 5x this would mean 5 * 8 = 40x when the Epawncoin IPO is over.
What about giveaway and promotion in China? Provenconday made significant rise in price due to the promotion and giveaway in China. I think that this was the reason for the jump from 1k to 6k in 2-3 days. Can provenconday start promotion in China and tosha in Russia in the same time? Because these are two big countries. And lets say 10 most active members here donate each 5k for promotion, including me, of course.
However, giveaway should be with purpose. Let's say, include my analyses from above, explaining why price should go up, and making people buy coins on exchanges before price goes even higher. This is not bad for people and we will not mislead them, because they still with create a bubble, however, the bubble with not explode but will just be the floor for the next bubble, which will be the ePawncoin IPO. When the ePawncoin IPO reach its top also, if devs do their job and start running the pawnshop, this second bubble with not explode as well but will also continue to grow, as the idea behind PAWN is not pump and dump and it is really offering constant stability of price. And for example, offer the following: once people prove they have bought some amounts of coins they get 5% free bonus from giveaway. Provement of buying will b be with a screenshots. If there are too much people for checking screenshots we can set a minimum buy order to qualify for bonus. So if 5% are 10 members each of 5K, this means that 5% are 50K. And that the total amount of bought coins should be 20 times more so 1 milion. 1 milion bought coins will drive the price up like crazy, because this is around 20% of all coins in existance, if we do not count the frozen premine and the big whales which are holding. And do not forget the factor "inertion". On each huge raise the crawd goes in the same direction for some time, so it may go even higher.

Indeed great analyses, Dev's could you answer the question?

[Emerald]

anyone know cryptorush news?
all my pawn and btc are there 

[MsCollec]

anyone know cryptorush news?
all my pawn and btc are there 

Are they not bankrupt?  Sorry for your loss

[Emerald]

OMG They bankrupt? like MtGox?

[MsCollec]

OMG They bankrupt? like MtGox?

It seems they are launching a new exchange platform with zero wallet balance and removing the old platform for later auditing to determine the debts per users.

They were insolvent for a long time and try to cover it up by issuing shares and fake private take over of $500,000 buyout by that guy on YouTube video??  I can't remember his name.

[alexje]

Voted @     19078

[pastet89]

What's the fair Bitcoin to pawncoin rate?  0.00006?

Didn't you say it is 5 to 25 USD.

[pastet89]

Exuse me, but this is not serious. How can stage 1 set stage 2s price when there will be no limit on that. What if he says 1 milion dolars per coin? Who will buy-noone. There should be a price limit.

[pastet89]

What do you mean it will close without warnings? It must close when all 20% are sold, mustn't it?

[pastet89]

Obviously I meant that the first stage should continue until all 20% of the epawncoins are sold.
And if you make an IPO where you say first stage ends when you decide and no one knows, this will look not fair as it can be pre arranged or fixed by muggy deal. I myself would not take part under this conditions, sound like predetermined fast ponzy scheme within closed circle of people.

[tAP]

Obviously I meant that the first stage should continue until all 20% of the epawncoins are sold.
And if you make an IPO where you say first stage ends when you decide and no one knows, this will look not fair as it can be pre arranged or fixed by muggy deal. I myself would not take part under this conditions, sound like predetermined fast ponzy scheme within closed circle of people.

Yup.  There needs to be a set date so it is fair and we can all ensure that there is no insider trading, or at least to the best of our ability.  Why is a "late investment" treated any differently than an early investment at that stage?  An investment = investment, no?  Giving no closing date is a bad idea in my opinion, and I also would not take that risk.

[tAP]

There's no closing date for stage 1 . Thanks for your continued support.

Cool, so I guess then when a fixed price is set, how does that work?

So if I have 20 ePawn, and the fixed rate is at 1 dollar each, who pays for that?  Do I sell ePawn to the devs only?  If that's the case how do you ensure you have enough capital to pay out if people decide to cash out all their ePawn at the fixed rate?

If the fixed rate is a rate which people have to trade at, I don't understand how that will work because sure some in the community may "decide" 1 dollar is a good rate, but everyone else may be completely unwilling to pay that thus stagnating the coin.

Could you explain a bit more for me? Thanks.

[pastet89]

Let me ask another question then:


1. Stage 1 is aiming to sell 20% of all ePawncoins.
2. What happens if you announce its end before all the 20% are sold out?