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February 05, 2019, 12:39:06 PM
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I would call it funny wouldn't i see the missuss of ill people by degenerates.

Making fun of other people illness is not something i support.

Well I would not worry about that. This just demonstrates further that these people should be removed from positions of trust and also any persons or projects employing such individuals are now also going to be tainted by their actions.

That would be very worrying for me as a project owner or manager that people such as this are tainting the image of my project.

This should immediately become our next focus.

Remove the trust abuse, else it is our duty to present proven facts demonstrating lies, and other untrustworthy deeds to the projects they are involved with and if they are seen to condone this by not removing them then the projects themselves can be seen as untrustworthy.

This is simply a case of if you are proven untrustworthy and dishonestly are abusing honest members then you need to reverse these wrong deeds or else this it is the duty of any honest member to present the facts that you are dishonest to any projects and the investors of those projects that you are involved with.

This is why politicians step down  and CEOs step down because at the end of the day when a persons actions start to negatively reflect on the image of the company or party then that person will find they are shunned and made a pariah and correctly so.

Perhaps it is the projects that support these abusers financially that we need to ALERT first? and help them ensure they are doing the correct and best thing they can for their investors with regard employing untrustworthy individuals.

If they resist then that is a worrying sign that these projects and companies are willingly employing proven untrustworthy persons??





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February 05, 2019, 01:22:15 PM
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if you could round some of those up to the next multiple of 10 would support this effort

To make this work you're gonna need at least a couple of 250-merit accounts. And you don't need more than eight 10-merit votes for each pair of 250-merit votes. But don't get me wrong, I thoroughly enjoy watching how you morons waste your merits in this scheme.

dont know how trust system work ?
many on list have 250 merit votes but need 10s

more 250s will come or i will buy them

No, not a single user in your army of miscreants has 250 earned merits. If you had any you'd have them hooked up to your trust lists already because the "election" could happen any minute now. You have ~20 or so 10-merit votes and you're gonna waste them all. Good show, will watch again.

Are you afraid anyone will get there very soon and put all of you lauda ass-lickers down ?

I can feel your fear by the way! Cheesy

Yeah, I'm quaking in my boots. Please aim between the eyes and make my suffering short. Thank you.

suchmoon you need to understand.Its not our fulltime time job to sit on this forum.
We come slowly but we come.No rush needed.

Here a small anecdote for you from an old known movie i liked when i was a kid.

Son and daddy bull standing on a hill see below a herd of cows.
Son says to dad bull :Daddy daddy let's run down and fuck a cow we catch.

Daddy bull answers : No son we get slowly down and fuck them all !


Wish everyone a nice day as i have some more work to do today.


Btw suchmoon did i mentioned i got a PM from somebody offering to sell me your doxx ?
I just made s very short digging.
How many accounts do you got ?

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No, not a single user in your army of miscreants has 250 earned merits. If you had any you'd have them hooked up to your trust lists already because the "election" could happen any minute now. You have ~20 or so 10-merit votes and you're gonna waste them all. Good show, will watch again.


elections for what? on dt1? so we shout your elections we now have our choices we no longer want to know DT1
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February 05, 2019, 01:35:46 PM
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if you could round some of those up to the next multiple of 10 would support this effort

To make this work you're gonna need at least a couple of 250-merit accounts. And you don't need more than eight 10-merit votes for each pair of 250-merit votes. But don't get me wrong, I thoroughly enjoy watching how you morons waste your merits in this scheme.

dont know how trust system work ?
many on list have 250 merit votes but need 10s

more 250s will come or i will buy them

No, not a single user in your army of miscreants has 250 earned merits. If you had any you'd have them hooked up to your trust lists already because the "election" could happen any minute now. You have ~20 or so 10-merit votes and you're gonna waste them all. Good show, will watch again.

Are you afraid anyone will get there very soon and put all of you lauda ass-lickers down ?

I can feel your fear by the way! Cheesy

Yeah, I'm quaking in my boots. Please aim between the eyes and make my suffering short. Thank you.


Boasting that you are hiding behind a proven cycled bunch of subjective and misleading junk pile of merits from pals is only making it worse for you and demonstrating that system is broken and needs fixing or abolishing.

Getting on DT is just a secondary bonus it is not even required. It is time to proceed with the honest duties I have described in my prior 2 posts here. This is far more effect than counter red strikes on DT. Although I am sure as time goes on those will take place too until the forum is a place where trust abuse no longer takes place unanswered

I sense you are getting upset suchmoon. Go have a rest this is just the start. You know you will end up saying something even more stupid than usual if you keep being stressed out for long periods. You know I worry about you.


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February 05, 2019, 01:52:19 PM
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@suchmoon a lot of dirt you got.

Now i understand why you support Lauda.




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DID YOU PAID Brunos loan default and BOUGHT THE GLEM ACCOUNT in June 2018 ?

Am asking cause i can't understand how else it would switch ownership in June 2018 where Bruno officaly said that this account belongs to him.
DID YOU ACTIVLY BOUGHT AN ACCOUNT ?

I mean i got tagged for trying to buy an account in 2017 and you bought one in june 2018.


Now have a look how suchmoon is defending Bruno against global moderators who clearly see that Gleb is not Bruno posting this as feedback comment


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Unless there is any proof that this account is not under Brunos control the neg rating by hilourosandco appears to be based on an incorrect assumption and should be ignored along with this rating
Wow suchmoon you defend Bruno with a claim which you don't use when giving false feedbacks to other members ?


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DarkStar_ tagged Gleb account because the Gage account was the collateral so he knew if he were to tag Gage account then there goes the collateral, you are also asking for negative feedbacks to be removed now for a few times because Gleb is in your hands and as long as it has negative trust it wont worth a buck.
You are trying to side with an account seller while you have been against such behavior yourself.


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As long as you don't suddenly change your mind and give Gleb and his other alts positive trust to say what a good guy he is, I'm fine with it and everybody else is also fine with it other than suchmoon, what you should know is that suchmoon is the one who paid the loan and took Gleb account as collateral in exchange for $600, so she would do anything to restore the said accounts reputations in order to get back her money which is lost forever now.

I wonder what would suchmoon do if her bought accounts are tagged as an account dealer and not a loan defaulter? also where is the usual hypocrite a.k.a The Pharmacist? he's not here to tag these accounts but only he tags people in no position of power or influence. facking hypocrite.

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Two different accounts, two different deals. I control the Gleb Gamow account (my own deal with Bruno), I never touched the Phinnaeus Gage account (DarkStar_'s deal with Bruno).

So you admitted buying that account in june 2018

@DT members where is the tagging ?Double standards again ?

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February 05, 2019, 03:48:31 PM
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So you admitted buying that account in june 2018

@DT members where is the tagging ?Double standards again ?
What was suchmoon's intent for buying the account?
What are most users' intentions for buying accounts?

Examine the dichotomy, please.


Ohhh what was the intention ?I guess giving free money ($600) to someone for an account he/she can't use and thats why he/she fought so hard to get all the negative taggs removed. /irony off

Funny i never saw you asking me for what purpose i tried to buy an account.

DOUBLE STANDARDS YOU FAGGOT


Oh SORRY !!!!! I forgat i told you the reason i tried to buy an account so a friend would be able to add images on his service thread.But you faggot didn't care

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February 05, 2019, 04:05:06 PM
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I read the thread and its clear It was a private deal between suchmoon and Bruno for paying his debt and receiving back his other alt.

Even suchmoon fighting to get all the red taggs away was such a laugh to read.

Argumenting that debt is paid there is no reason for a red tagg.No there isn't even somebody tried to sell that account to pay his debt.

Ohhh i forgat now its allowed to offer accounts for sale if you try to pay your debt with it.

Maybe people should not sell accounts directly but indirectly claiming to sell these accounts on private deals to pay their debt.


DOUBLE STANDARD AT ITS FINEST


People should tagg suchmoons alt which was sold by Bruno to suchmoon for $600 .Account sales are discouraged on BCT and lead instantly to red trust

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Interesting. And the best method, in your eyes, was to spend more funds than necessary. Instead of posting the service thread yourself, or obtaining a copper membership, or having someone else post the service thread...

You fucking moron at least check for what you are tagging.You tagged a try for an account buy back in 2017.There were no copper memberships.
And asking other people to add images and update it makes completly no sense since you will be always held responsible for that account you have no conrol about or know its full history.
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How quaint. Do you want to spell out why you were buying an account, then? Was it to perhaps prevent the sold account from scamming? You hero.

HA HA HA HA who is going to belive in that shit that suchmoon spending $600 of his own money for a legandary account and removes all its negative taggs just to remove an account which maybe could be used for scams. LOL

Yeah sure funny suchmoon is not buying all accounts.What a samerita.

@actmyname

You are a pisshead and your argumentation are for dumb people.Anyone beliving in that crap must have an IQ like 60.
Even you have no high IQ if you are only able to make up such stupid argumentation


You know cryptohunter is right.Its time to go activly to your escrow thread and inform anyone there that you are a scam escrow who supports account sales and being used as collateral which proof is this thread

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You do realize that $600 was like 0.1 BTC at the time? The red tags I was concerned about were Bruno's, not mine. I wanted him to be able to use the Gage account in a sig campaign and that obviously didn't work out.

So you activly worked on it that Bruno's red taggs get deleted even he tried to sell a legandary account in 2018?
You are a hyprocat .Giving everyone who tries to buy or sell an account negative feedback since 2017 and if there is a benefit for you you jump in and safe his reputation even there is full evidence he tried to sell a legendary to shitposters.
Makes total sense


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No, I didn't. It was pretty much the opposite - preventing that account from getting into the hands of a shitposting/scamming account buyer.
Tagging that account from all DT members would be enough to make it worthless so everyone would know its a bought account.There was no need to pay $600 for that account.



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Your double standards just have been proofed and the abuse of the trust feedback by you

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The $600 was not a payment for the account, which I had no need for. Can't expect a sockpuppeting scammer to understand that of course.
No it was to pay out the debt 0.13B .
If you get the Glem account after paying Brunos debt its clearly a deal to get that account once you pay his debt.


No matter what you got a new account where a payment was involved.If directly or indirectly doesn't matter.


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Can't expect a sockpuppeting scammer

Oh the personal attacks begin again ?No more arguments when facts about you are being presented ?
A DT calling me a scammer but being such a dick unable to show me even a single person i have scammed during the 7 years on this forum.
Your input is like always high quality /irony off



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Case in point. "PM from somebody" LOL. Whatever justification of your vendetta makes you feel better.



Let's see what kind of information we will get

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We come slowly but we come.No rush needed.
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There’s a joke in there somewhere.....

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February 05, 2019, 07:08:26 PM
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I'm just leaving this here:
- It is absolutely not appropriate to give someone negative trust because you disagree with them. I'm disappointed in the reaction to this post. Although H8bussesNbicycles is perhaps not particularly trustworthy for other reasons, the reasons many people gave for neg-trusting him are inappropriate. You can argue that what he's advocating is bad on a utilitarian level, but he would disagree, and his advocacy of a certain Trust philosophy doesn't by itself mean that he's an untrustworthy person. DT selection is meant to be affected by user lists, and it is totally legitimate to try to honestly convince other (real) people to use a list more in-line with your views.
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February 05, 2019, 08:19:18 PM
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I just wanted to try out some new trust features,but what did i get ?redtrust by just customizing my own trustlist,even theymos was excluded few days ago.Does it mean trust is being controlled by these DT members? if you dont want to be painted dont to exclude the Godly DT's here.This looks like politics,not conspiracy to me between i strongly agree that my red trust is inapproriate .Who are these people to control which people you wanted to exlude/include to your list?doesnt make sense.

Its like senatorial elections thus the voting machines are getting tapped by those with the power to do that so they will remain with their position.


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February 05, 2019, 09:41:05 PM
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Damn...  You really got flamed for your opinion here.  I guess if you aren't part of the "Cult of Lauda" (what they're calling themselves now) then you aren't allowed to have an opinion about other people's trust lists.  Only the "Cult of Lauda" is allowed to publicly post trust suggestions without retaliation.  While it is admirable to point out their abuse of the trust network as they try and undermine what theymos is trying to accomplish, allowing them to continue to rack up 'violations' of the system will only benefit the end goal of having them permanently blacklisted.

I'm just wondering who is going to be blacklisted first...  I would have thought for sure TMAN, but now Lauda is throwing his hat in the ring.


I'm just leaving this here:
- It is absolutely not appropriate to give someone negative trust because you disagree with them. I'm disappointed in the reaction to this post.

That's how most of us likely found our way here...

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Damn...  You really got flamed for your opinion here.  I guess if you aren't part of the "Cult of Lauda" (what they're calling themselves now) then you aren't allowed to have an opinion about other people's trust lists.  Only the "Cult of Lauda" is allowed to publicly post trust suggestions without retaliation.  While it is admirable to point out their abuse of the trust network as they try and undermine what theymos is trying to accomplish, allowing them to continue to rack up 'violations' of the system will only benefit the end goal of having them permanently blacklisted.

I'm just wondering who is going to be blacklisted first...  I would have thought for sure TMAN, but now Lauda is throwing his hat in the ring.


I'm just leaving this here:
- It is absolutely not appropriate to give someone negative trust because you disagree with them. I'm disappointed in the reaction to this post.

That's how most of us likely found our way here...
I would rather be accused a criminal than be part of that cult.They are enjoying the days with trust system but im sure something will happen if Theymos reconstruct how the forum works.We should have atleast one big poll asking which DTmembers should be blacklisted numbers wont lie,if they are good as you OgNasty they wont be removed.I just supported someone with good advocate and i immediately got negative trust funny asf.
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Damn...  You really got flamed for your opinion here.  I guess if you aren't part of the "Cult of Lauda" (what they're calling themselves now) then you aren't allowed to have an opinion about other people's trust lists.  Only the "Cult of Lauda" is allowed to publicly post trust suggestions without retaliation.  While it is admirable to point out their abuse of the trust network as they try and undermine what theymos is trying to accomplish



yes
 i am hoping to reach -9999 trust for my opinion  Wink
too bad theymos's word will probably cause some to be removed so i will have to find more ways for my opinion to offend the cult into leaving me negative trust
when this started they though negative trust affected me


i would explain my true reasoning why to remove lauda and some lesser cult members but to do that could pinpoint me (ognasty i will send you a pm)
it has nothing to do with scammers
fuck scammers and fuck idiots stupid enough to fall for scammers too


i know my list has some bad users on it and excludes some good users in collateral damage that i am not proud of but the war to remove lauda is worth the sacrifice
please i beg good users excluded on my list to remove lauda so you do not have to go down in this war


think
i am smart enough and educated enough about bitcointalk to create this masterful piece of work to fight evil here dont you think i could pull off a hell of a scam if i wanted to ?


if i wanted to scam i could easily do it
i know how this place works
the ins and outs and what can be done
here i am fighting for morality
fighting for the good of this forum and am sorry for the casualties but lauda and likeminded have to go
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Is stingers still a merit source?

Not anymore. That's clear abuse, awarding merit for political reasons rather than any idea of quality. Only because he was a source, I effectively undid those merit sends. If he had not been a merit source, I still would've blacklisted anyone who got into DT1 through that type of shenanigans.


Well, it appears that this movement will have to come up with a different strategy. Enlisting a merit source does not appear to be the way to go. Good luck. Kiss
If you want merits, better hope to find an audience who legitimately appreciates what you have to write. The OP definitely has a few fans.  Wink

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Is stingers still a merit source?

Not anymore. That's clear abuse, awarding merit for political reasons rather than any idea of quality. Only because he was a source, I effectively undid those merit sends. If he had not been a merit source, I still would've blacklisted anyone who got into DT1 through that type of shenanigans.


Well, it appears that this movement will have to come up with a different strategy. Enlisting a merit source does not appear to be the way to go. Good luck. Kiss
If you want merits, better hope to find an audience who legitimately appreciates what you have to write. The OP definitely has a few fans.  Wink


There are other supporters who have already 250 merits.
These DT abusers can't push new alts as quickly into DT as we are groing.
Like i said just a matter of time.
And in my opinion theymos will allow in the end to give people you support merit to equal the imbalance some DT members have created

Also you should read cryptohunters post.He already showed another possibility.

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Check out the latest trust rating Lauda has left me.  



The reference thread takes you to a complaint from minifrij where he was upset that I pointed out he removes/replaces feedback when he doesn't get his way.  Today I also pointed out that Lauda has engaged in this same behavior against user rmcdermott927 on this forum.  Anybody know how me pointing out that minifrij is attempting to bully me into removing my feedback by misusing the trust network equates to me being a scammer?  How does this fit into a reasonable DefaultTrust network rating?

I do not view it as appropriate for trust ratings to relate primarily to non-trust matters. By giving someone negative trust, you're basically attaching a note to all of their posts telling people "warning: do not trade with this person!". If we can get DT working well enough, in the future I'd like to prevent guests from even viewing topics by negative-trust users in trust-enabled sections, so you have to ask yourself whether your negative trust would warrant this sort of significant effect.

I've got a popular escrow service on this site, am the OP of a longstanding community organization as well as a proof of concept Green Energy Project, sell lots of different products, & regularly try to help newbies with their issues here.  Is it right that guests should no longer be able to view my posts because I stood up to the bullying of Lauda & friends?



EVIDENCE OF LAUDA BULLYING RMCDERMOTT927
Are we seeing a pattern yet with these users?


8/23/18: Lauda left this retaliatory trust rating:


10/06/18: Lauda noticed that rmcdermott927 was no longer showing a red trust rating so he once again removed/replaced his rating:


01/15/19: Lauda noticed that rmcdermott927 was no longer showing a red trust rating so he once again removed/replaced his rating:

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Check out the latest trust rating Lauda has left me.



The reference thread takes you to a complaint from minifrij where he was upset that I pointed out he removes/replaces feedback when he doesn't get his way.  Today I also pointed out that Lauda has engaged in this same behavior against user rmcdermott927 on this forum.  Anybody know how me pointing out that minifrij is attempting to bully me by misusing the trust network equates to me being a scammer?  How does this fit into a reasonable DefaultTrust network rating? 
It is no secret that Lauda routinely gives negative ratings in order to silence criticism of him and his associates.

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god has spoken  Grin
I do not view it as appropriate for trust ratings to relate primarily to non-trust matters. By giving someone negative trust, you're basically attaching a note to all of their posts telling people "warning: do not trade with this person!". If we can get DT working well enough, in the future I'd like to prevent guests from even viewing topics by negative-trust users in trust-enabled sections, so you have to ask yourself whether your negative trust would warrant this sort of significant effect.

In particular, in my view:
 - Giving negative trust for being an annoying poster is inappropriate, since this has nothing to do with their trustworthiness. If they're disrupting discussion or never adding anything, then that's something for moderators to deal with, and you should report their posts and/or complain in Meta about it.
 - Giving negative trust for merit trading and deceptive alt-account use may be appropriate, but you should use a light touch so that people don't feel paranoid.
 - You should be willing to forgive past mistakes if the person seems unlikely to do it again.
 - It is absolutely not appropriate to give someone negative trust because you disagree with them. I'm disappointed in the reaction to this post. Although H8bussesNbicycles is perhaps not particularly trustworthy for other reasons, the reasons many people gave for neg-trusting him are inappropriate. You can argue that what he's advocating is bad on a utilitarian level, but he would disagree, and his advocacy of a certain Trust philosophy doesn't by itself mean that he's an untrustworthy person. DT selection is meant to be affected by user lists, and it is totally legitimate to try to honestly convince other (real) people to use a list more in-line with your views.
 
I'm not going to blacklist people from DT selection due to not following my views, since a big point of this new system is to get me less involved, but if a culture somewhat compatible with my views does not eventually develop, then I will consider this more freeform DT selection to be a failure, and I'll probably get rid of it in favor of enforcing custom trust lists.

any takers?
BTW, are signatures allowed for this type of thing? I will gladly pay for a set if folks will wear them without fear. Hopefully, they can help spread the word about this thread and the vile chancers ruining this forum.

Any interested and competent signature designers reading this can pm me with their samples and price. Don't mind the fake ratings on my trust, but if it bothers you, I'll go 1st if you're "trusted" or we use an escrow.


About meriting, surely, it wouldn't be considered manipulation if awarded to good posts, regardless of whether the poster is an "undesirable"? In this case a thread like this would suffice: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5093271.0 - where posters can report good unmerited post and anybody can merit them if they choose to.
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