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Question: Who is your preferred candidate to ultimately WIN the presidency?
Joe Biden - 12 (9.8%)
Michael Bloomberg - 9 (7.4%)
Cory Booker - 2 (1.6%)
Pete Buttigieg - 8 (6.6%)
Julian Castro - 3 (2.5%)
John Delaney - 2 (1.6%)
Tulsi Gabbard - 13 (10.7%)
Kirsten Gillibrand - 2 (1.6%)
Kamala Harris - 6 (4.9%)
Amy Klobuchar - 2 (1.6%)
Beto O'Rourke - 3 (2.5%)
Bernie Sanders - 31 (25.4%)
Elizabeth Warren - 7 (5.7%)
Andrew Yang - 22 (18%)
Total Voters: 74

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May 01, 2020, 08:04:28 PM
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True there, but Joe Biden is the rigged establishment candidate. He can do no wrong and he has the media on his side, and because the masses are dumb and watch TV all they will see is the fake narrative shaped by the media for Joe.  But in reality he never went a year without a major scandal.  Look at the disgraceful things he says and does, endless grabbing and sniffing of little girls. Multiple sexual allegations, a sealed record that's a scandal on its own, major corruption scandals all over the world. His entire family become millionaires from govt or govt position related contracts. Joe Biden and the whole Biden clan is a true crime family.

As for his son Hunter, he should be in jail doing life. He's a sexual deviant just like his father, he even went after his dead brothers wife. He has a new baby from a stripper, he has a long history of prostitutes and strippers, multiple drug busts, he's been confirmed to be in rehab 5 times, he's been caught with crack/pipe and fake ID .. he's at the end of scandal in Ukraine which ties back to his father and his father makig threats to drop the investigation into his corruption.




I myself thought Bernie would be a liability in a general election versus Trump but Joe Biden has a few things to deal with on top of sexual misconduct -- Burisma and Hunter Biden, as well as allegations about cognitive decline. Grab the popcorn folks.
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May 01, 2020, 08:37:55 PM
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Okay, so nevermind that the comment above is one of the dumbest things I've read all day, let's talk about Tara Reade. I look at it the scoreboard of sexual misconduct allegations:

Trump 25
Biden 1

"Oh but Trumps were all false allegations."

Sure... considering its the guy who admitted he liked grabbing women by the pussy, that makes total sense.  Roll Eyes

"Oh but its Trump, so, you know.. its fine!"

There's a big difference between sexual misconduct and rape.  What Tara Reade alleges is rape.  What Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal allege is not.  Telling someone they have a "pretty mouth" is misconduct, sticking your (uninvited) fingers into someone's vagina is rape.  One is an ethical issue, the other is criminal.  I'm not defending either, but they are not the same.

I may be wrong, but as far as I know there haven't been any allegations of rape levied at Trump.  Certainly none with evidence as compelling as Tara Reade's case.

Regardless of what I just wrote above, the most striking thing about these cases is how the media reacts to them.  They promote allegations against those with whom they disagree, while omitting those against their political favorites.  That concerns me equally as much as whether the allegations are real or not.


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May 01, 2020, 09:14:29 PM
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Okay, so nevermind that the comment above is one of the dumbest things I've read all day, let's talk about Tara Reade. I look at it the scoreboard of sexual misconduct allegations:

Trump 25
Biden 1

"Oh but Trumps were all false allegations."

Sure... considering its the guy who admitted he liked grabbing women by the pussy, that makes total sense.  Roll Eyes

"Oh but its Trump, so, you know.. its fine!"

There's a big difference between sexual misconduct and rape.  What Tara Reade alleges is rape.  What Stormy Daniels and Karen McDougal allege is not.  Telling someone they have a "pretty mouth" is misconduct, sticking your (uninvited) fingers into someone's vagina is rape.  One is an ethical issue, the other is criminal.  I'm not defending either, but they are not the same.

I may be wrong, but as far as I know there haven't been any allegations of rape levied at Trump.  Certainly none with evidence as compelling as Tara Reade's case.

Regardless of what I just wrote above, the most striking thing about these cases is how the media reacts to them.  They promote allegations against those with whom they disagree, while omitting those against their political favorites.  That concerns me equally as much as whether the allegations are real or not.



In a deposition during divorce negotiations Trumps first wife said Trump raped her and ripped out her hair.

An author also accused him of raping her in a dressing room in the mid 90s.

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May 01, 2020, 09:37:08 PM
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In a deposition during divorce negotiations Trumps first wife said Trump raped her and ripped out her hair.

I heard about the claim by his ex, but I think that's largely been dismissed as a lie to get more of his money.  Wikipedia has this to say about it:

his then-wife Ivana made a rape claim during their 1989 divorce litigation but later recanted that claim

But I don't know, maybe wikipiedia is right-wing conspiracy website.    Undecided


An author also accused him of raping her in a dressing room in the mid 90s.

Are you talking about this accusation by Jean Carroll?  Really now?  Curious that you didn't provide these citations that took me two seconds to find.  Roll Eyes


Anything out there with evidence as compelling as Tara Reade's claims?

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May 01, 2020, 10:10:47 PM
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In a deposition during divorce negotiations Trumps first wife said Trump raped her and ripped out her hair.

I heard about the claim by his ex, but I think that's largely been dismissed as a lie to get more of his money.  Wikipedia has this to say about it:

his then-wife Ivana made a rape claim during their 1989 divorce litigation but later recanted that claim

But I don't know, maybe wikipiedia is right-wing conspiracy website.    Undecided


An author also accused him of raping her in a dressing room in the mid 90s.

Are you talking about this accusation by Jean Carroll?  Really now?  Curious that you didn't provide these citations that took me two seconds to find.  Roll Eyes


Anything out there with evidence as compelling as Tara Reade's claims?

Arguing Trump Orange Man Bad vs Dog Turd Biden is a miserable waste of time, but it is certainly interesting who rises to the challenge. I wonder why.
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May 01, 2020, 10:27:50 PM
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keep in mind DJT is a billionaire celebrity in the private sector, a heavy target.  

Joe Biden by comparison is a poor man protected by the senate and staffers and the deep state.

Despite being a much weaker target,  Biden actually has more credible complaints and he's no TV star and not even as young as Trump.

Anyway on this I agree with Splendy . Its a useless argument, who's the bigger rapist. Bill Clinton a 25 time visitor to Lolita Island probably beats both.

For a fun end this to this useless thread have a look at a funny 2min video on Joe Biden's hug on Hillary.. Even CNN hints that he's a creep

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Watch Joe Biden give an endless hug to Hillary Clinton
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May 01, 2020, 10:48:19 PM
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Okay, so nevermind that the comment above is one of the dumbest things I've read all day, let's talk about Tara Reade. I look at it the scoreboard of sexual misconduct allegations:

Trump 25
Biden 1

"Oh but Trumps were all false allegations."

Sure... considering its the guy who admitted he liked grabbing women by the pussy, that makes total sense.  Roll Eyes

"Oh but its Trump, so, you know.. its fine!"

Nutilduuuhhh sexually assaulted Direwolf's goat 26 times!

Trump 25
Nutilduuhh 26

More accusations = more validity, clearly. You should turn yourself in to police immediately and admit your crimes.
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May 01, 2020, 11:04:30 PM
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Okay, so nevermind that the comment above is one of the dumbest things I've read all day, let's talk about Tara Reade. I look at it the scoreboard of sexual misconduct allegations:

Trump 25
Biden 1

"Oh but Trumps were all false allegations."

Sure... considering its the guy who admitted he liked grabbing women by the pussy, that makes total sense.  Roll Eyes

"Oh but its Trump, so, you know.. its fine!"

Nutilduuuhhh sexually assaulted Direwolf's goat 26 times!

Trump 25
Nutilduuhh 26

More accusations = more validity, clearly. You should turn yourself in to police immediately and admit your crimes.

You've been trying to get my goat for months, so what does that say about you?
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....
Anyway on this I agree with Splendy . Its a useless argument, who's the bigger rapist. Bill Clinton a 25 time visitor to Lolita Island probably beats both....

Really, it's just a debate topic to deflect attention from Dog Turd Biden.

Makes me laugh because people doing this have closed ranks in solidarity with Democrats. Why? Go work on local elections, do something that will actually have a result.

Some people actually believe they are having a powerful influence on events by posting on forums like this. I don't. I know I am just an observer.
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May 02, 2020, 07:30:43 AM
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You've been trying to get my goat for months, so what does that say about you?

I never had your goat. It was with Nutilduhhh this whole time.





Joe Biden doesn't have a chance in hell.
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May 02, 2020, 08:24:13 AM
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You've been trying to get my goat for months, so what does that say about you?

I never had your goat. It was with Nutilduhhh this whole time.





Joe Biden doesn't have a chance in hell.

LOL. Congratulations Nutilduhhh, TECSHARE has immortalized you in KLYE ART! Albeit depicted as fucking a goat with your tiny penis.
This depiction of you shown above is how you will forever be remembered Nutilduhhh. Some may consider it a glorious fate.


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May 02, 2020, 12:22:33 PM
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Some people actually believe they are having a powerful influence on events by posting on forums like this. I don't. I know I am just an observer.

Though we are on different sides of the political divide, I appreciate your ability to be reasonable. And I agree with you here: we are all pretty much just wasting free time, which most of us have a lot of at the moment.

I just personally think Tara Reade is a non-issue considering who Biden is running against.....
Thanks.

It's not like Trump needs to gain more issues or talking points to have a huge electoral victory over Biden. He doesn't. So I agree with you on Reade.

Reade really serves as one more example of the Left/mass media perverse insistence on "one set of standards for us, another for you guys."

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....serves as one more example of the Left/mass media perverse insistence on "one set of standards for us, another for you guys."
It's not just the left. The right and the "new" media does it just as much. Few have any actual ethics.

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I just personally think Tara Reade is a non-issue considering who Biden is running against.

I'm afraid you're right.  Not because Biden is running against Trump, but because of his political affiliation.  The media is only airing news about this now, because the issue was raised that they have been silent.  The hypocrisy is glaring, so recently after the Kavanaugh circus, which played out like an obvious hit-job.  Now they don't want to talk about Reade's allegation, which actually has merit.  I'm not saying it's true, I'm saying it has merit, and far more than anything Christine Blasey Ford said.  Notice how no conservative law-makers are grandstanding, saying laughably stupid shit like "believe all women?"  So yes, it'll only be an issue if the Democrats and the news media make it one.  But as the old saying goes; if they didn't have double standards they wouldn't have any.


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May 02, 2020, 03:40:57 PM
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....serves as one more example of the Left/mass media perverse insistence on "one set of standards for us, another for you guys."
It's not just the left. The right and the "new" media does it just as much. Few have any actual ethics.


False. There's been a well known trend in exposing the most minute indiscretions of Republicans, and ignoring the largest and most corrupt actions of Democrats.

The current set of examples of this can start with Bill and Hillary Clinton's presidency.

To bring it up to date, it's been recently noted that the main media had ZERO stories on the Biden/Reade issue, and that's easily comparable with (you pick it...Trump, Kavanagh, whoever) and how many stories there?
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To bring it up to date, it's been recently noted that the main media had ZERO stories on the Biden/Reade issue

C'mon now, that's not true at all.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/05/02/politics/tara-reade-allegation-joe-biden/index.html
https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-denies-tara-reade-sexual-assault-allegation-11588334000
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/01/opinion/biden-tara-reade.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/05/01/i-will-listen-tara-reade-i-cannot-square-her-charge-with-biden-i-know/
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/02/joe-biden-tara-reade-complaint-229838

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Well, ... maybe ...

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....serves as one more example of the Left/mass media perverse insistence on "one set of standards for us, another for you guys."
It's not just the left. The right and the "new" media does it just as much. Few have any actual ethics.

False. There's been a well known trend in exposing the most minute indiscretions of Republicans, and ignoring the largest and most corrupt actions of Democrats.

The current set of examples of this can start with Bill and Hillary Clinton's presidency.

To bring it up to date, it's been recently noted that the main media had ZERO stories on the Biden/Reade issue, and that's easily comparable with (you pick it...Trump, Kavanagh, whoever) and how many stories there?
Oh please, there's nothing false about what I said. Your "derangement" that all left bad and right good is just as bad as the TDS on the left. Do we really need to start a list of all the shit the right have turned a blind eye to over the years when it comes to their own? How many on the right screamed for Clintons balls over his blowjobs and give their own a pass. Happens all the time cause they're all the damn same. I love how so many of you talk about the "main stream" media and what you really mean to say is left wing media. Fox has certainly covered Reade and they're one of the "main" media outlets. They certainly love to tout that they have higher ratings than any other cable news network. Besides, I don't know what world you live in but I've certainly seen Reade stuff on CNN. They just don't "obsess" about it like they would if it was about someone on the right. You know. The same way Fox etc obsesses about those on the left. They're all the same.

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Oh please, there's nothing false about what I said. Your "derangement" that all left bad and right good is just as bad as the TDS on the left. Do we really need to start a list of all the shit the right have turned a blind eye to over the years when it comes to their own? How many on the right screamed for Clintons balls over his blowjobs and give their own a pass. Happens all the time cause they're all the damn same. I love how so many of you talk about the "main stream" media and what you really mean to say is left wing media. Fox has certainly covered Reade and they're one of the "main" media outlets. They certainly love to tout that they have higher ratings than any other cable news network. Besides, I don't know what world you live in but I've certainly seen Reade stuff on CNN. They just don't "obsess" about it like they would if it was about someone on the right. You know. The same way Fox etc obsesses about those on the left. They're all the same.

The Clinton's were but an extension of the Bush cartel, and Killery an extension of her bootlegger father's mob ties. Also, Bill was impeached for perjury, not for getting a blowjob. His presidency set the vast majority of the current day's major issues, either financial, military, and the security of the nation itself. He is always praised for his "surplus", but that was all a fraud, as demonstrated by the later housing market collapse which was engineered under his administration.
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.... Do we really need to start a list of all the shit the right have turned a blind eye to over the years when it comes to their own? How many on the right screamed for Clintons balls over his blowjobs and give their own a pass. Happens all the time cause they're all the damn same. ... They're all the same.

So this is made up?

While you may think that’s only because of the ongoing coverage of the coronavirus pandemic, think again: In that same time period, CNN, MSNBC and NBC have hosted Biden for a total of three interviews (including an hour-long town hall on CNN), and no host asked even a single question about these new charges.

Compare that to how those same networks raced to promote misconduct charges against then-Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh in 2018. ...in the twelve days following the first reports of Ford’s claim, the ABC, CBS and NBC morning and evening news shows churned out 305 minutes of coverage. Only a scant amount of that airtime — less than five minutes — mentioned that none of the witnesses named by Ford would confirm her story.

Besides the broadcast networks, CNN and MSNBC dished out uncounted hours of coverage, all based on the premise that Ford was telling the truth and that Kavanaugh was a guilty liar.

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/rich-noyes/2020/03/31/blackout-tv-news-silent-new-biden-sex-abuse-allegations
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