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^^ I would say it was a proper penalty. I understand that we are expecting major stuff in order to call it penalty because that has been what it is like in the past but these days in the past few years, maybe even in the last decade if you want to call it, there are more penalties called because we now realize that it doesn't have to be very dangerous tackle in order to get penalty, the meaning of penalty is basically giving someone punishment for doing something dangerous, by all means we all would rather have a game without any fouls neither, everyone tackling very professionally without doing anything dangerous but we all know that is impossible.
So, these years we see more penalty because defenders do act a bit more reckless and we can't just have injury risk things as penalty, we need to have dangerous moves as well so that when you give penalty players would know not to do it again. I feel like it was justified in that sense, it wasn't an easy call, but it was still a move that shouldn't have been.
It was very light but those sort of penalties are given all the time in the Premier League and they seem to have been a bit more strict in this tournament with not giving them with the exception of that one so I can see why it's controversial. I was expecting VAR to overrule it to be honest. England only problem is their goalkeeper. That should be your frank point. And that's why I agree if they go to penalties they are more likely to lose.
England's goalkeeper Jordan Pickford is clearly going to win the Golden Gloves award at Euro 2020 after achieving the most clean sheets at the tournament with five matches in a row. I can't see how he could be a problem. I'm not a big fan of him but he's played well this tournament and surprised me. Shame he conceded as it would have been great to go all the way without letting in a goal, but I think that's more to do with England's defence rather than Pickford but he's done well when called upon. Can't really pick a clear winner for the final. I could see it going all the way to penalties. I think Italy are the better team but the bookies seem to be favouring England. Maybe they have the advantage of playing at home and in front of lots of fans which may spur them on. I'm wondering if Southgate will mix the team up a bit. I'm not sure if he has the balls to but I think Grealish has earned a starting position and I think Foden should be starting as well.
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I'm not a big fan of him but he's played well this tournament and surprised me. Shame he conceded as it would have been great to go all the way without letting in a goal, but I think that's more to do with England's defence rather than Pickford but he's done well when called upon. Can't really pick a clear winner for the final. I could see it going all the way to penalties. I think Italy are the better team but the bookies seem to be favouring England. Maybe they have the advantage of playing at home and in front of lots of fans which may spur them on. I'm wondering if Southgate will mix the team up a bit. I'm not sure if he has the balls to but I think Grealish has earned a starting position and I think Foden should be starting as well.
I think the performance of Italia, against Spain, from an image of Italia less strong than expected. Hence the bettors are aiming for victory for England. Even before the tournament started, I named England as the main candidate for victory. Now Italy will be a very difficult opponent for England.
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I'm not a big fan of him but he's played well this tournament and surprised me. Shame he conceded as it would have been great to go all the way without letting in a goal, but I think that's more to do with England's defence rather than Pickford but he's done well when called upon. Can't really pick a clear winner for the final. I could see it going all the way to penalties. I think Italy are the better team but the bookies seem to be favouring England. Maybe they have the advantage of playing at home and in front of lots of fans which may spur them on. I'm wondering if Southgate will mix the team up a bit. I'm not sure if he has the balls to but I think Grealish has earned a starting position and I think Foden should be starting as well.
I think the performance of Italia, against Spain, from an image of Italia less strong than expected. Hence the bettors are aiming for victory for England. Even before the tournament started, I named England as the main candidate for victory. Now Italy will be a very difficult opponent for England. Although England struggled to win in the semifinal against Denmark yesterday, but the English team played quite well and neatly in attack and defense in that match and unlike what happened in the last match the Italian team played quite badly even though in the end they won, I see when the match italy vs spain, the italian players played quite badly and even they often mis-passed the ball at that time and we can see in the first half not even a single italian player kick was aimed at the goal, from that fact makes me very sure that England will won the final match, because indeed the class of England and Italian team games in this year's euros differed quite a lot and it was clear that England played better during this year euro.
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For me this is going to be a clear England victory. Let's say both teams are equally strong and have a 50/50 chance of winning. There are more factors we need to consider. The first factor that plays into the hands of England is the location. Playing in the Wembley stadium means a lot for the English team. The second factor are the fans. We have seen in the game against Denmark what the difference Fans can make. If there will be again guys with laser pointers blinding the goal keeper, Italy will be doomed.
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For me this is going to be a clear England victory. Let's say both teams are equally strong and have a 50/50 chance of winning. There are more factors we need to consider. The first factor that plays into the hands of England is the location. Playing in the Wembley stadium means a lot for the English team. The second factor are the fans. We have seen in the game against Denmark what the difference Fans can make. If there will be again guys with laser pointers blinding the goal keeper, Italy will be doomed.
Don't think that way. Because, this is final match. I have watched all the matches of Italy. Their gameplay is awesome. They have no chance to call this squad weak. However, I don't think the spectators will do the same thing as in the previous match. It is illegal to win the match in this way. These should not be done in the game.
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Previously I thought Italy might still be able to win in the final match later, but after I realized the English team that seemed to have a stronger defense and also, I just realized that England now looks stronger in every line. Also, with the full support of playing at home then I think England will really be champions this time around, considering the aging Italian defender who looks likely to be overwhelmed by England's attacks.
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For the sixteenth time Harry Kane has scored Kasper Schmiechel. I knew he'll surely score because he's got a good scoring record against him in the premier league. Let's see if Harry Kane can beat Ronaldo to the Golden Boot. Congratulations to England, reaching there First final since 1966.
My man and hero Kane:) I still think the penalty was at best soft,,, and he did take it quite poorly but he made up for it with the rebound. This man is a goalscoring machine and it is so nice to see his reel in the last game. Like Kane of old, smacking shots, cutting through balls. Sterling should be ashamed:)
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July 09, 2021, 11:17:09 AM |
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Although England struggled to win in the semifinal against Denmark yesterday, /cut/
Dude, this match was like, a three days ago! Are you copying this from somewhere? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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July 09, 2021, 11:31:47 AM |
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Sunday we will have the final honestly i didn't like italy against spain, they suffered and risked too much and gave birth to a boring game
we hope that everything changes for the final, a final like the previous game I would not like at all
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July 09, 2021, 11:45:52 AM |
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~ we hope that everything changes for the final, a final like the previous game I would not like at all
The England fans will be ecstatic as they are in the Euro cup final for the first time and i do not remember when they reached a final in decades and this is the best chance for them to change that history and Harry Kane is the player Italy will be marking and i am expecting Italy to play the same game they played against Spain and i am expecting England to shoot outside the box most of the time ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) .
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Sunday we will have the final honestly i didn't like italy against spain, they suffered and risked too much and gave birth to a boring game
we hope that everything changes for the final, a final like the previous game I would not like at all
90 minute of regular time to be honest the match italy vs spain is very interesting in my opinion. But Italy's strong defense and Spain's failure to create goal opportunities was a bit boring. I don't really like the Italian way of playing because they only rely on defense and counter-attack. I hope England vs Italy will feature an open match in the final although it seems that Italy is defending in its own way.
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July 09, 2021, 12:41:14 PM |
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yes defense and counter-attack is boring.. i agree with you i want to see many goals!! like 3 - 3 i dont want my team win with boring 0 - 0 and penalties.. IS BORING i want see ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) fun actions of course this is my opinion
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July 09, 2021, 01:37:03 PM |
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...of course this is my opinion
We all expect to see a lot of action. That is why we love it. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Despite the fact that football matches don't usually have many goals, they do have a lot of action in both attack and defense, which makes them interesting to watch. Of course, the finals of big competitions are even more attractive because they are loaded with even more emotions.
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90 minute of regular time to be honest the match italy vs spain is very interesting in my opinion. But Italy's strong defense and Spain's failure to create goal opportunities was a bit boring. I don't really like the Italian way of playing because they only rely on defense and counter-attack. I hope England vs Italy will feature an open match in the final although it seems that Italy is defending in its own way.
Italy are defensive, yes. England normally are very attacking. However that has hurt them in the past, and so this tournament they are being a lot more cautious, as we saw for example with their formation against Germany. I expect both sides to play defensively in the final... unfortunately that is generally the way in finals anyway, regardless of who is playing.
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90 minute of regular time to be honest the match italy vs spain is very interesting in my opinion. But Italy's strong defense and Spain's failure to create goal opportunities was a bit boring. I don't really like the Italian way of playing because they only rely on defense and counter-attack. I hope England vs Italy will feature an open match in the final although it seems that Italy is defending in its own way.
Italy are defensive, yes. England normally are very attacking. However that has hurt them in the past, and so this tournament they are being a lot more cautious, as we saw for example with their formation against Germany. I expect both sides to play defensively in the final... unfortunately that is generally the way in finals anyway, regardless of who is playing. What is clear is that the English fear Roberto Mancini's Italy and in particular its defensive solidity, combined with Jorginho's strategic acumen and Federico Chiesa's unstoppable speed. Given what we have seen during Euro2020 the only reason I see England favored by bookmakers is because they play home. In Italy they would have had probably no choice. Final result of the game? 2-1 or 3-1 for Italy. You will see. Reading the British press I can definitely say that the LAST opponent they wanted for the final was Italy. Coach Gareth Southgate defined it as "the most uncomfortable team that could happen to us in the final". I bet.
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July 09, 2021, 04:04:32 PM |
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90 minute of regular time to be honest the match italy vs spain is very interesting in my opinion. But Italy's strong defense and Spain's failure to create goal opportunities was a bit boring. I don't really like the Italian way of playing because they only rely on defense and counter-attack. I hope England vs Italy will feature an open match in the final although it seems that Italy is defending in its own way.
Italy are defensive, yes. England normally are very attacking. However that has hurt them in the past, and so this tournament they are being a lot more cautious, as we saw for example with their formation against Germany. I expect both sides to play defensively in the final... unfortunately that is generally the way in finals anyway, regardless of who is playing. The strategy will define ur successful, is like the next final match of Italy vs England. I guess that Italy will be the champion of this league based on the history. We know that Italy with England in the same match for the competitive league or world cup have been 9 times. Italy won 7x, lose 1x, and tie1x. So in this league, they have met for 10 times, whether they add the win score or lose. We wait for the match..
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The strategy will define ur successful, is like the next final match of Italy vs England. I guess that Italy will be the champion of this league based on the history. We know that Italy with England in the same match for the competitive league or world cup have been 9 times. Italy won 7x, lose 1x, and tie1x. So in this league, they have met for 10 times, whether they add the win score or lose. We wait for the match..
But historical analysis cannot always be considered. There are different eras, different players and different game styles. Today England and Italy are playing in a different way from their traditional style. So there can be surprises.
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What is the referee doing? A reference to his guilt performance? ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) It is a reference to the questionable penalty and how they think that the referee helped England to qualify for the final game. In the other side how Donnarumma was a key player/goalkeeper for Italy. I saw talks about England goalkeeper having better record so he is clearly going to win Golden Gloves. Talking about saves both Italy and England goalkeepers did the same number. In term of punches and penalty saves Donnarumma was better. I think the final game will give a better idea about the winner but I find Donnarumma better.
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The strategy will define ur successful, is like the next final match of Italy vs England. I guess that Italy will be the champion of this league based on the history. We know that Italy with England in the same match for the competitive league or world cup have been 9 times. Italy won 7x, lose 1x, and tie1x. So in this league, they have met for 10 times, whether they add the win score or lose. We wait for the match..
But historical analysis cannot always be considered. There are different eras, different players and different game styles. Today England and Italy are playing in a different way from their traditional style. So there can be surprises. It will be an unpredictable game based on the recent performances of each team.Italy suffered a lot against Spain while England although suffered did not suffered a lot to win against Denmark.I think the fact that England has beaten Germany says a lot about them.Also Italy beating Spain says a lot about them too so this game is going to be totally unpredictable,I think the regular time may end a goalless draw.
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July 09, 2021, 06:01:42 PM |
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yes defense and counter-attack is boring.. i agree with you i want to see many goals!! like 3 - 3 i dont want my team win with boring 0 - 0 and penalties.. IS BORING i want see ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) fun actions of course this is my opinion It depends on which teams are playing this strategy. I remember the times when the confrontations between Real and Barcelona, Inter and Barcelona were held according to this scheme and each match was as interesting as possible. It was during Mourinho's time for the most part. A counterexample is Atletico Madrid - when they play this way, the match usually looks depressing.
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