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June 11, 2020, 11:34:16 PM
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Current lows are the 50 day average which was quickly catching up, its down through the weekly and even monthly averages and has definetly put Bitcoin into a negative phase but for this moment a recovery is possible occurrence.
  Reasoning being price fell to multi month range lows and is still within the bounds of a normal profit taking move.   Also main markets dropped today so particular significance to crypto might be low and this is just part of speculative moves with hot money.   A good trend downwards is not yet in play, its not possible to speculate exactly where the bottom of the dip is at present but its reasonable to watch form with that idea.   8770 and 8550 are possible footholds that I'll look for depending on sentiment going forward.

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June 12, 2020, 11:19:25 AM
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Current lows are the 50 day average which was quickly catching up, its down through the weekly and even monthly averages and has definetly put Bitcoin into a negative phase but for this moment a recovery is possible occurrence.
  Reasoning being price fell to multi month range lows and is still within the bounds of a normal profit taking move.   Also main markets dropped today so particular significance to crypto might be low and this is just part of speculative moves with hot money.   A good trend downwards is not yet in play, its not possible to speculate exactly where the bottom of the dip is at present but its reasonable to watch form with that idea.   8770 and 8550 are possible footholds that I'll look for depending on sentiment going forward.


Open a chart, change to weekly, and draw a 200 Simple Moving Average line. Bitcoin has fallen, but has stayed long under that line in bullish or bearish sentiments. Cool

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June 12, 2020, 08:20:15 PM
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200 weeks is a hell of a long time my dude Cheesy   You aint wrong and explains at least part of the forum old guard and their stance to hold BTC regardless of fluctuation, I tried to give this advice in March but when everything is blinking red on the screen the words run shallow.   I got some merit for my advice but that person also sold near to the bottom pricing sadly.
   But within a shorter time frame then nearly 4 years!  we can go down, I think we'll loop a few times more this year for sure.   We'll have more loops in the price then a plate of spaghetti hoops soup in the end, not yet full bullish imo.   Spotting the dips is also good, the counter to that is also be taking profits on your peaks.

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200 weeks is a hell of a long time my dude Cheesy   You aint wrong and explains at least part of the forum old guard and their stance to hold BTC regardless of fluctuation,


Zoom out. What fluctuation? Cool

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I tried to give this advice in March but when everything is blinking red on the screen the words run shallow.   I got some merit for my advice but that person also sold near to the bottom pricing sadly.


Did you give the right advice? I believe you should be telling him that he should be buying MORE near the bottom.

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   But within a shorter time frame then nearly 4 years!  we can go down, I think we'll loop a few times more this year for sure.   We'll have more loops in the price then a plate of spaghetti hoops soup in the end, not yet full bullish imo.   Spotting the dips is also good, the counter to that is also be taking profits on your peaks.



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June 13, 2020, 10:28:55 AM
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  Spotting the dips is also good, the counter to that is also be taking profits on your peaks.
These are the hardest things to guess for a speculator as you should be precise with the charts and your analysis should also be to the point and in-depth. Also market doesn't always go the way you want it to be, it is insidious just like everyone thought back in 2017 that if the price would reach $20k then it will explode and we could easily see $50k but actually the reverse happened and the end result was a low of $3k from all time high of $20k in the process.

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  Spotting the dips is also good, the counter to that is also be taking profits on your peaks.
These are the hardest things to guess for a speculator as you should be precise with the charts and your analysis should also be to the point and in-depth. Also market doesn't always go the way you want it to be, it is insidious just like everyone thought back in 2017 that if the price would reach $20k then it will explode and we could easily see $50k but actually the reverse happened and the end result was a low of $3k from all time high of $20k in the process.


Our fellow plebs who bought Bitcoin when it reached $20,000, and sold when it crashed to $3,000, will wish they never took that loss when Bitcoin reaches 6 digits.

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June 14, 2020, 10:24:43 AM
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  Spotting the dips is also good, the counter to that is also be taking profits on your peaks.
These are the hardest things to guess for a speculator as you should be precise with the charts and your analysis should also be to the point and in-depth. Also market doesn't always go the way you want it to be, it is insidious just like everyone thought back in 2017 that if the price would reach $20k then it will explode and we could easily see $50k but actually the reverse happened and the end result was a low of $3k from all time high of $20k in the process.


Our fellow plebs who bought Bitcoin when it reached $20,000, and sold when it crashed to $3,000, will wish they never took that loss when Bitcoin reaches 6 digits.
As far as i know there are only few on them made this stupid decision mate selling at $3k when they really know that volatility is always lurking around market and they may even wait for at least month or so before realizing that market already in recovery stage.

I never though of doing so though i have bought at $16k level and realized that i need to keep waiting if i want to get my funds back or even earn more.

I thought of selling last year when 14k$ value reached but denied myself and continue holding

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June 14, 2020, 09:55:58 PM
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  Spotting the dips is also good, the counter to that is also be taking profits on your peaks.
These are the hardest things to guess for a speculator as you should be precise with the charts and your analysis should also be to the point and in-depth. Also market doesn't always go the way you want it to be, it is insidious just like everyone thought back in 2017 that if the price would reach $20k then it will explode and we could easily see $50k but actually the reverse happened and the end result was a low of $3k from all time high of $20k in the process.


Our fellow plebs who bought Bitcoin when it reached $20,000, and sold when it crashed to $3,000, will wish they never took that loss when Bitcoin reaches 6 digits.
As far as i know there are only few on them made this stupid decision mate selling at $3k when they really know that volatility is always lurking around market and they may even wait for at least month or so before realizing that market already in recovery stage.

I never though of doing so though i have bought at $16k level and realized that i need to keep waiting if i want to get my funds back or even earn more.

I thought of selling last year when 14k$ value reached but denied myself and continue holding
Being a hodler wont really be that easy and there are indeed some regrets that you havent able to sell out into that particular point but there are worthy times for you to sell
so that you would really end up on holding for too long or for years.

Unlucky for those people who do panic sell into those 3k levels and lucky for those people who bought and risk to buy into those cheap prices.I know it isnt really easy to consider
on having that entry since we wont know if the market would dip down even more.

Its a matter of risk and choice because we wont really earn something if we do just tend to watch every opportunity to pass by.

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June 14, 2020, 11:17:38 PM
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Very few people bought in at 20k, 10k sure and prices around there but it fell pretty fast from that ATH and I think the pricing we at now and last summer are probably more significant to conquering the top in that way.
  9200 is a possible buy at present or tracking 50 day average which forms the lows, just above is the 2 day average and I wouldnt be too positive until it breaks that quite short term measure; which should be easy to do. 

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June 15, 2020, 06:13:37 AM
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  Spotting the dips is also good, the counter to that is also be taking profits on your peaks.
These are the hardest things to guess for a speculator as you should be precise with the charts and your analysis should also be to the point and in-depth. Also market doesn't always go the way you want it to be, it is insidious just like everyone thought back in 2017 that if the price would reach $20k then it will explode and we could easily see $50k but actually the reverse happened and the end result was a low of $3k from all time high of $20k in the process.


Our fellow plebs who bought Bitcoin when it reached $20,000, and sold when it crashed to $3,000, will wish they never took that loss when Bitcoin reaches 6 digits.
As far as i know there are only few on them made this stupid decision mate selling at $3k when they really know that volatility is always lurking around market and they may even wait for at least month or so before realizing that market already in recovery stage.

I never though of doing so though i have bought at $16k level and realized that i need to keep waiting if i want to get my funds back or even earn more.

I thought of selling last year when 14k$ value reached but denied myself and continue holding

There should be no returning to "your funds" in my opinion. Bitcoin WILL become the first world reserve cryptocurrency, with countries maintaining tax-payer-subsidized mining farms, and HODLing.

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Before another surge, I want to share that, in only 10 years Bitcoin has risen to $9,000 from a mere $0.01, while our savings in fiat money continue to devalue every year because of inflation.

Buy the dip, and HODL.
You made a really very strong argument. One can only imagine how the government is deceiving us, especially considering that in my country over the past 10 years the national currency has fallen in price against the dollar by almost 3 times, and the minimum wage has grown by five times, while many officials have become millionaires, owners of yachts and beautiful Villas on the Cote d'Azur. But it’s even hard to imagine what People theoretically lost as an investor, given the scale of Bitcoin growth over the 10 years.

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July 09, 2020, 06:08:38 PM
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Before another surge, I want to share that, in only 10 years Bitcoin has risen to $9,000 from a mere $0.01, while our savings in fiat money continue to devalue every year because of inflation.

Buy the dip, and HODL.
You made a really very strong argument. One can only imagine how the government is deceiving us, especially considering that in my country over the past 10 years the national currency has fallen in price against the dollar by almost 3 times, and the minimum wage has grown by five times, while many officials have become millionaires, owners of yachts and beautiful Villas on the Cote d'Azur. But it’s even hard to imagine what People theoretically lost as an investor, given the scale of Bitcoin growth over the 10 years.

To be fair, I doubt that it is representative to measure bitcoin from it's earliest adoption phases, in which it had almost no value, even though the point of sound money still holds true for bitcoin... and of course, in bitcoin we are still likely in the earliest of stages of an exponential s-curve adoption phase, yet the more mature bitcoin becomes, the more likely we will be able to compare it to other more mature assets, and sure many of us have seemingly sound conjectures that bitcoin is going to continue to serve as a gravitational magnate for value.. absent some kind of major downfall in the technology or the exploitation of an attack vector that is NOT adequately appreciated or understood at this time.

In other words, still seems that bitcoin continues to serve a great asymmetric bet that continues to provide a lot of upside potential and maybe even no need to really gamble or leverage in order to personally profit stupendously from bitcoin merely by either starting to accumulate or just continuing to accumulate BTC to an extent that is personally reasonable and feasible and maybe NOT investing so much or too much that you may have to sell BTC that is not at a time of your own choosing.

In other words, even though bitcoin seems to continue as a very great asymmetric bet to the upside, there could be periods in which bitcoin prices are manipulated down and continue to stay down for unreasonable periods of time in order to attempt to shake as many HODLers out of their bitcoin as is possible, and in those circumstances, each of us has to be careful that we are not shaken out of some or all of our bitcoin at a time that is NOT of our own choosing.

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July 10, 2020, 11:35:54 PM
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I’m constantly buying when I’m able to. In a few years the current price will seem like a joke. Anybody who isn’t buying now will majorly regret it.

A lot of people were saying the same thing when the price was in the $10-20k range, and look where the price is now. There's no telling how long this bear market (we're still in one) is going to last; just as a reminder, the previous one lasted for two and a half years.

I believe we won't see more then 13-15% decline in price in the next month and a half, if you look at price historically summer is always extremely slow and this is probably the best time to risk and flip some altcoins. Dominance is in decline last 3-4 weeks and it seems it will keep on going down so I presume best time to bu again would be September, but Covid should be kept in mind as many expect second wave in September so that could change the market significantly.
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July 11, 2020, 01:21:10 AM
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Before another surge, I want to share that, in only 10 years Bitcoin has risen to $9,000 from a mere $0.01, while our savings in fiat money continue to devalue every year because of inflation.

Buy the dip, and HODL.
Yes it is true that we always experience inflation and that is why it is better if we will put our money in some investments like golds and real estate if we want to increase its value.

 Buying the dips for me is not for everyone, all of us have different perspective on trading and holding. There are some people who want to hold their bitcoins for a long time but there are some who want to day trade it. Buying at dips is not working all the times and there is criteria for it.
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July 11, 2020, 01:32:33 AM
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Before another surge, I want to share that, in only 10 years Bitcoin has risen to $9,000 from a mere $0.01, while our savings in fiat money continue to devalue every year because of inflation.

Buy the dip, and HODL.
Yes it is true that we always experience inflation and that is why it is better if we will put our money in some investments like golds and real estate if we want to increase its value.

 Buying the dips for me is not for everyone, all of us have different perspective on trading and holding. There are some people who want to hold their bitcoins for a long time but there are some who want to day trade it. Buying at dips is not working all the times and there is criteria for it.

People who buy bitcoin will be at a variety of stages in their life in terms of their asset accumulation, and there is no real argument about any other asset being better than bitcoin in terms of long term investment opportunities.

Of course, we know that past performance of bitcoin cannot ensure future results, but still there has been a lot of value in either dollar cost averaging and/or buying on dips.. Buying on dips is merely an attempt at a more advanced system of dollar cost averaging.

I personally would recommend that people striving to accumulate bitcoin do not fuck around with trading until they have already largely reached their various investment goals in more prudent ways.. Of course, if you happen to be a professional trader or you have some kind of solid system of trading, then that might be a particular practice that you employ, but trading surely should not be anything close to a recommendation for normies or the vast majority of people until they figure it out.. . in spite of the fact that trading is way easier in bitcoin than it might be in a lot of other asset classes, but the fact that it is way more available does not mean that it would be wise to do it unless either playing with a very small portion of BTC stash or having a decent amount of skills in that direction - whether professional or just skills that were learned by practicing with smaller amounts (and maybe working up.. if fitting)

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Buying the dip depends largely on individual, if you have knowledge of the market and how it operates then buying every dip would be very satisfying, but from the point of a newbie who had already bought from the top and has less or limited knowledge of the market won't even consider it, their eagerness would be to sell and leave,
I would rather buy in every major dip than in every dip, although the former comes rarely.

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July 11, 2020, 03:39:23 AM
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Buying the dip depends largely on individual, if you have knowledge of the market and how it operates then buying every dip would be very satisfying, but from the point of a newbie who had already bought from the top and has less or limited knowledge of the market won't even consider it, their eagerness would be to sell and leave,
I would rather buy in every major dip than in every dip, although the former comes rarely.
but before buying each dip, you should seek information first. it might be beneficial when there is an increase or bounce back from the coin, but it will be very detrimental when the dip occurs next. however, information is very necessary in this regard, because I feel that this is quite risky if done on coins that are not very popular.

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July 11, 2020, 03:44:11 AM
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Buying the dip depends largely on individual, if you have knowledge of the market and how it operates then buying every dip would be very satisfying, but from the point of a newbie who had already bought from the top and has less or limited knowledge of the market won't even consider it, their eagerness would be to sell and leave,
I would rather buy in every major dip than in every dip, although the former comes rarely.

You seem to be projecting too much on the financial, budgeting and investing situation that others might find themselves in.

If you understand the concept of buying on the dip, it should be used to attempt to supplement a kind of dollar cost averaging approach to buying BTC rather than attempting to time BTC price dips, because it is nearly impossible to figure out with any kind of precision when dips are going to happen or how much dip is going to happen.


So, in this kind of a system, you might establish a buying budget for yourself that covers a period of time.  So for example if you have a $6k budget for the next 6 months, so if you divide such budget into weekly allotments, then you would have $250 per week for your budget.

Therefore, you might used some of that allotment to buy BTC every week, maybe $125, and then the other half $125 might be used to buy on dips, and of course, you can establish how much of a dip that you need before buying and you can choose to carry over the allocated amount to subsequent weeks... there are a lot of ways that you could allocate any budget, once you have established such budget in terms of both amount and time frame.. and you can even tweak a bit here or there in your carrying out of the plan based on changes in your ideas including how you might approach buying on dip practices.

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