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December 13, 2021, 03:56:47 AM
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Right now is the right time to enter the market and buy bitcoin, especially now that the market is in a bearish condition and of course we should be able to take advantage of this to buy at a cheap price, I think even though the bitcoin price is currently declining, bitcoin fundamentals are strong Of course it will be able to trigger a refund of the bitcoin price on the market later, I personally have never had any doubts about buying and holding bitcoin for the long term because I firmly believe bitcoin is the safest asset now and for the future.
Yes, indeed, if you look at the price of bitcoin, which is corrected very deeply, it is clear that there is an opportunity to be able to buy bitcoins so that they are held when bitcoins increase later, then the benefits to be taken are very large and the possibility will obviously always happen.

the nature of bitcoin is that it always increases every halving period, so if you buy bitcoin when it drops and has not increased at this time, it is certain that bitcoin will happen again and will create its newest ATH. so there is no need to be afraid to continue holding bitcoins until the time is right to sell them.

so it's true that this is the advantage of bitcoin compared to other coins, there is no need to hesitate to hold on to it all the time.

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December 14, 2021, 06:24:28 PM
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Those who are seeking the dip i think the current market is for them. Bitcoin price fall down at the same time all others coins down significantly. Most of the cons price down more then 15% so it is better to invest for any selected cons as the dip and if these cons hold for some times then have the possibility to get huge profit. 

Right now bitcoin is testing the $47K price level and the price decline is almost around 3.82% on this day alone, in my opinion actually the decline that occurred today we should be able to take advantage of by buying bitcoin before the rebound occurs again later, in addition to bitcoin some prices Other cryptos are also having quite a sharp bearish like ethereum which is down almost 5.5% on this day alone, I think now is a good time to get into the market, buy and hold.


The “rebound” usually happens weeks later, don’t be too impatient to buy the DIP right away, letting your emtotions take over. Wait for it to happen. I believe this current small rebound will stop, and Bitcoin will be DIPping soon again.

But I’m a mere pleb, and I’m wrong most of the time. Cool
Buying the dip and HODLing is one of the oldest and the most effective ways of making profits with bitcoin. The bitcoin market is fluctuating due to number of reasons either FUD, FOMO, or Speculations. These are the major factors that causes market to move up and down, when the market is down is time to buy, also when the market is up is time to sell.
Indeed, buying while it's dip and hold is without a doubt the most classic ways of all time, but the most crucial part after that move is to know when is the right time to sell and have the right mindset in-order to reap huge glorious profits. Yes, there's a lot of people doing that way but they end up selling their investments because they're being impatient or selling while the market is raw. The main concept is buying it at low price you can get and hold it for a year or two, and then sell your profits only (not the whole) because in that way you can earn profits again while holding for the next upcoming year. Always make sure to have the masterplan of all movements you wanna make, and be patient don't deviate from the plan.

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December 18, 2021, 08:19:12 AM
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I believe the bulls are quietly buying again, like what they were doing during June and July, then made Bitcoin quietly surge during August when everyone was doubting the market. Is it another situation that will make the plebs who didn’t buy the current dip FOMO during the next surge again? Cool

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December 18, 2021, 08:44:03 AM
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Getting dip is not so easy. where you find the dip? Where does it end? the last dip is possible? And if you do not get it can not be traded? You must be tired of searching for the answer to this question. Therefore, it is appropriate to trade by market analysis. The time when the price dumps in a large value is deep and then if someone buys then he will definitely be able to make a good profit.

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December 18, 2021, 09:11:28 AM
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Getting dip is not so easy. where you find the dip? Where does it end? the last dip is possible? And if you do not get it can not be traded? You must be tired of searching for the answer to this question. Therefore, it is appropriate to trade by market analysis. The time when the price dumps in a large value is deep and then if someone buys then he will definitely be able to make a good profit.

I doubt that figuring out exactly where the dip is or how long the dip is going to last is as big of a deal as you are making it out to be, ranaprime.

One of the main things for any person to figure out when devising a plan to accumulate BTC is to figure out his/her financial and psychological situation, so in that regard, there can be an establishment of a budget, so some of the budget can be used to Dollar cost average, lump sum invest and buy on dips.

For sure there are going to be individual variations, and for sure we are not necessarily know how far any dip is going to be or how long the BTC price might be hovering within any particular price range. 

Another thing is that there have been a number of folks who have known about bitcoin for a long time, and likely people who have made it through full 4 year cycles can be pretty decently well off, so long as they took actions to accumulate BTC.. and not screwing around too much with various kinds of trading when accumulation and stacking of sats would have been amongst the most important of matters.

8 years ago, normal people with less than a $10k budget over a year or two could have accumulated 10 to 40 BTC without a whole hell of a lot of troubles, and even four years ago a $10k budget may have decently been able to allow a normal person with a $10k budget to get in the ballpark of 10 BTC in a year or so, but these days, a $10k budget might well ONLY get you 0.2BTC , and maybe those kinds of opportunities are not going to last for very long... it becomes more and more difficult for any normal person who might be able to gather a budget of somewhere in the $10k arena to be able to accumulate as many BTC as  s/he might have been able to gather 8 years ago or even 4 years ago, an I doubt that the BTC price momentum is going to turn down in any kind of meaningful way that does not suggest that normal people need to figure out how that they want to act in terms of accumulating BTC and maybe in the near future a $10k budget is going to be hard pressed to accumulate 10 million satoshis or maybe even 1 million satoshis will be difficult to accumulate... I am not sure what it will be like 4 years from now, but it seems to be that we have to be careful in our attempts to be overly strategic regarding our BTC accumulation and ongoing buying is good and surely can be supplemented with buying on dips too.. but if we run out of money, then sometimes we have to wait (or HODL) as OP suggests.

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December 18, 2021, 09:37:29 AM
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Getting dip is not so easy. where you find the dip? Where does it end? the last dip is possible? And if you do not get it can not be traded? You must be tired of searching for the answer to this question. Therefore, it is appropriate to trade by market analysis. The time when the price dumps in a large value is deep and then if someone buys then he will definitely be able to make a good profit.


Those are fair questions, and obviously yes, it’s not easy, BUT what should you do? Be inefficient with your capital and buy at any price, OR try buying on DIPs? Plus even if you are wrong, ZOOM OUT. Any more DIPs after a DIP is an opportunity to buy more. Plus we are not merely buying to sell a few months, or few years. We buy to HODL.

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December 18, 2021, 10:22:24 PM
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Getting dip is not so easy. where you find the dip? Where does it end? the last dip is possible? And if you do not get it can not be traded? You must be tired of searching for the answer to this question. Therefore, it is appropriate to trade by market analysis. The time when the price dumps in a large value is deep and then if someone buys then he will definitely be able to make a good profit.
Hey guys you already got dip because cryptocurrency market now on dip situation. All cryptocurrencies price now on red cancel situation on the trading chart 📈 indicator. So you can invest in this moment if you wish.

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December 19, 2021, 12:59:48 AM
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Getting dip is not so easy. where you find the dip? Where does it end? the last dip is possible? And if you do not get it can not be traded? You must be tired of searching for the answer to this question. Therefore, it is appropriate to trade by market analysis. The time when the price dumps in a large value is deep and then if someone buys then he will definitely be able to make a good profit.
Hey guys you already got dip because cryptocurrency market now on dip situation. All cryptocurrencies price now on red cancel situation on the trading chart 📈 indicator. So you can invest in this moment if you wish.

Not talking about crypto baloney here (aka shitcoins)...

Only talking about bitcoin, here.

Stay away from shitcoins unless you are gambling and/or watching closely for when to get out quickly.. in other words, the concepts of long-term investing does not apply to any shitcoins.. unless you want to justify why it might.. but surely not relevant here.. but in some other thread, perhaps.. .

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December 21, 2021, 08:06:12 AM
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DIPs are still for buying. Stop feeding the whales your sats, OK? They have already front-run us the plebs, and they are already very fat in Bitcoin.



A surge is coming. The trolls will tell you it’s a “bull trap”. Cool

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December 21, 2021, 02:52:07 PM
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Getting dip is not so easy. where you find the dip? Where does it end? the last dip is possible? And if you do not get it can not be traded? You must be tired of searching for the answer to this question. Therefore, it is appropriate to trade by market analysis. The time when the price dumps in a large value is deep and then if someone buys then he will definitely be able to make a good profit.
Hey guys you already got dip because cryptocurrency market now on dip situation. All cryptocurrencies price now on red cancel situation on the trading chart 📈 indicator. So you can invest in this moment if you wish.
Right now the market is experiencing a drastic decline and there are no visible signs that the price decline will end soon, the cryptocurrency market continues to fluctuate and it is not uncommon for price corrections to occur suddenly and make some of us have to be patient to enter, I personally will probably wait the drop hit its lowest point this month before actually getting into the market and buying up some cryptocurrencies.
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December 21, 2021, 04:28:49 PM
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Getting dip is not so easy. where you find the dip? Where does it end? the last dip is possible? And if you do not get it can not be traded? You must be tired of searching for the answer to this question. Therefore, it is appropriate to trade by market analysis. The time when the price dumps in a large value is deep and then if someone buys then he will definitely be able to make a good profit.
Hey guys you already got dip because cryptocurrency market now on dip situation. All cryptocurrencies price now on red cancel situation on the trading chart 📈 indicator. So you can invest in this moment if you wish.
Right now the market is experiencing a drastic decline and there are no visible signs that the price decline will end soon, the cryptocurrency market continues to fluctuate and it is not uncommon for price corrections to occur suddenly and make some of us have to be patient to enter, I personally will probably wait the drop hit its lowest point this month before actually getting into the market and buying up some cryptocurrencies.

First of all we are not talking about cryptocurrency.  Fuck that nonsense.

Second, as far as the decision that any of us could have whether to buy bitcoin or to wait it out, in the event that there might be more dip, then that should partly depend upon how much bitcoin you already have.  If you do not have any, you better get some right away and don't be waiting around.  On the other hand, if you have a lot of bitcoin, then whether there is a dip or not may not matter so much for you because you are already prepared for UP.

The more difficult question comes for those who are still in BTC accumulating stage and trying to maximize some of their stacking with their cashflow.... and surely I have no problem with trying to be strategic about some of your ongoing buys as long as you are already prepared for both up and down and whether you have a weekly or a monthly budget.. and as far as the end of this month and rest of this year goes, there is NOT much time left in that anyhow (10 days?), so it can be difficult to know in the short-term if BTC prices might move UP or down from here.. but surely we already had a 39% dip, and we are sort of bouncing in a about a 25% to 35% correction area in the past few weeks.. so is it going to last is the BIG questions for those folks attempting to be strategic about some of their cashflow as it relates to bitcoin purchases.

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December 22, 2021, 10:56:38 AM
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Getting dip is not so easy. where you find the dip? Where does it end? the last dip is possible? And if you do not get it can not be traded? You must be tired of searching for the answer to this question. Therefore, it is appropriate to trade by market analysis. The time when the price dumps in a large value is deep and then if someone buys then he will definitely be able to make a good profit.
Hey guys you already got dip because cryptocurrency market now on dip situation. All cryptocurrencies price now on red cancel situation on the trading chart 📈 indicator. So you can invest in this moment if you wish.

Right now the market is experiencing a drastic decline and there are no visible signs that the price decline will end soon,


The signs are currently visible that it might be ending.

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the cryptocurrency market continues to fluctuate and it is not uncommon for price corrections to occur suddenly and make some of us have to be patient to enter, I personally will probably wait the drop hit its lowest point this month before actually getting into the market and buying up some cryptocurrencies.


In the zoom-out-scheme-of-things, I believe you do not have to buy the “perfect DIP”. You only have to be ready to buy again in another large DIP to lower your dollar cost average.

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December 23, 2021, 06:33:15 PM
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We all want to buy from Dip but it is a difficult thing to get. I noticed that when the price of ether was only $72 I couldn't even hold it because I was afraid it might go down further. ‍Now the current price $4000 now i thought it may come down even more. So when do I buy? For which I have to make a decision by doing market analysis and buy.

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December 23, 2021, 08:36:39 PM
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We all want to buy from Dip but it is a difficult thing to get. I noticed that when the price of ether was only $72 I couldn't even hold it because I was afraid it might go down further. ‍Now the current price $4000 now i thought it may come down even more. So when do I buy? For which I have to make a decision by doing market analysis and buy.

Fuck ether.

Don't buy that crap.

Furthermore this thread is not about the buying and HODLing of that shitcoin or any other shitcoin.

1) Self-Custody is a right.  There is no such thing as "non-custodial" or "un-hosted."  2) ESG, KYC & AML are attack-vectors on Bitcoin to be avoided or minimized.  3) How much alt (shit)coin diversification is necessary? if you are into Bitcoin, then 0%......if you cannot control your gambling, then perhaps limit your alt(shit)coin exposure to less than 10% of your bitcoin size...Put BTC here: bc1q49wt0ddnj07wzzp6z7affw9ven7fztyhevqu9k
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December 24, 2021, 07:28:15 AM
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We all want to buy from Dip but it is a difficult thing to get. I noticed that when the price of ether was only $72 I couldn't even hold it because I was afraid it might go down further. ‍Now the current price $4000 now i thought it may come down even more. So when do I buy? For which I have to make a decision by doing market analysis and buy.

Fuck ether.

Don't buy that crap.

Furthermore this thread is not about the buying and HODLing of that shitcoin or any other shitcoin.


From an investment standpoint, trading Bitcoin to hold a more volatile shitcoin would be practical, IF the trader wanted to sell those shitcoins back to Bitcoin to HODL more Bitcoin. Everyone should be allowed to learn the hard way. Cool

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December 24, 2021, 09:11:41 AM
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Buy in the Dip and Hold is indeed a very good and profitable strategy to enter into the current bitcoin market conditions. Even signs of Bitcoin Bullish have started to appear. Therefore, people who buy bitcoins when the price drops and hold will get a satisfying profit.
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December 24, 2021, 02:27:12 PM
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We all want to buy from Dip but it is a difficult thing to get. I noticed that when the price of ether was only $72 I couldn't even hold it because I was afraid it might go down further. ‍Now the current price $4000 now i thought it may come down even more. So when do I buy? For which I have to make a decision by doing market analysis and buy.

Fuck ether.

Don't buy that crap.

Furthermore this thread is not about the buying and HODLing of that shitcoin or any other shitcoin.


From an investment standpoint, trading Bitcoin to hold a more volatile shitcoin would be practical, IF the trader wanted to sell those shitcoins back to Bitcoin to HODL more Bitcoin. Everyone should be allowed to learn the hard way. Cool

Fair enough.. .but do you want to invite those kinds of discussions here.

One thing is actually having freedom to do whatever you like in your portfolio.. another thing is including a slippery slope of such discussions into a thread (this one) that was meant to be focusing on bitcoin... in terms of the buy on dip and HODL strategies that you had wanted to emphasize in the beginning.

1) Self-Custody is a right.  There is no such thing as "non-custodial" or "un-hosted."  2) ESG, KYC & AML are attack-vectors on Bitcoin to be avoided or minimized.  3) How much alt (shit)coin diversification is necessary? if you are into Bitcoin, then 0%......if you cannot control your gambling, then perhaps limit your alt(shit)coin exposure to less than 10% of your bitcoin size...Put BTC here: bc1q49wt0ddnj07wzzp6z7affw9ven7fztyhevqu9k
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December 27, 2021, 10:59:58 AM
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Is the current halving’s cycle peak delayed, or has the cycle been broken. OR this model has probably reached the end of its predicitive potentials? Because no predictive model will be accurate forever. The world is full of unpredictability and chaos.


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December 27, 2021, 05:28:23 PM
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Is the current halving’s cycle peak delayed, or has the cycle been broken. OR this model has probably reached the end of its predicitive potentials? Because no predictive model will be accurate forever. The world is full of unpredictability and chaos.

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Maybe we should go back and start predicting the future with 2 lines on a chart.
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Is the current halving’s cycle peak delayed, or has the cycle been broken. OR this model has probably reached the end of its predicitive potentials? Because no predictive model will be accurate forever. The world is full of unpredictability and chaos.



It is a bit strange that you are providing a chart/prediction from June 2021 as if PlanB's then interpretation of his own S2F model and his floor model (which are two different models) was something that was necessary to harp upon in terms of trying to figure out where we are, how we got here and where we might be going.

You likely know my view, which largely has not changed in recent months.. including that PlanB had made some pretty strong assertions about his "floor model" around June 2021 that largely ended up playing out in July, August, September and October, but fell short of his floor model numbers in November and December.  In any event, it seems like a sort of BIG so what to me in terms of how one model or another might be used, and Plan B was asserting his various floor model numbers as if they had strong backings including that he was proclaiming those floor numbers to be backed by information in his S2F model.. so in that case, his two models and frameworks end up getting convoluted in the discussions, and surely I still appreciate his stock to flow model including that the four-year fractal remains one of bitcoin price dynamic influences as well as stock to flow and exponential s-curve adoption based on network effects and metcalfe principles.  

The various influences on bitcoin price dynamics including ongoing building network effects have not been changed in any kind of negative way in recent months (or years for that matter), and for me, the ongoing evidence remains quite strong that bitcoin continues to build, grow and get adopted in quite amazing ways which continues to put UPpity pressures on bitcoin's price, even if there have been built a lot of financial instruments that have come onto the overall financial scene to allow bitcoin's price to be manipulated downwardly and betted against, and how successful some of these financial tools might be to keep bitcoin's price down is still to be seen, and personally, I have a lot of doubts about their abilities to really keep the bitcoin's price down for extended periods of time, even if their are likely a lot of abilities to keep it down for decently long short periods of time.... so anyhow our various models about bitcoin price dynamics including stock to flow, four year fractal and exponential s-curve adoption based on network effects and metcalfe principles should be able to help us to better figure out where we are, how we got here and where we might be going.. and these models and influences have not changed very much.. including your suggestion, Wind_FURY that some of our UPpity may well end up getting delayed into the 1st, 2nd or 3rd quarter of 2022.. and I would hardly even consider those kinds of dynamics to be breaking of the 4-year fractal, even if that aspect of bitcoin might be getting weaker since the amount of new bitcoin supply is serving as both a smaller amount of its already existing issued supply and the fact that it may well be getting more in and more into the consciousness of bitcoin (as a dynamic) that we already know more or less (except for not really knowing lost or inaccessible coins) what bitcoin's supply is going to be into the future.  Even with all of these various factors, we can also appreciate that there is no certainty in anything, even something that remains such an asymmetric bet such as bitcoin..

For sure bitcoin's ongoing investment thesis remains as strong as ever for those of us who are ready, willing and able to appreciate bitcoin for what it is, and even if we might not exactly be sure what bitcoin is there seem to be ongoing events around adoption and building of bitcoin in various ways that should continue to demonstrate that bitcoin's investment thesis these days may well be as strong as it ever has been, including that the downside scenarios are not as strong as they used to be and there are quite a few BIG status quo and traditionally investment rich folks who are increasingly getting into bitcoin, which surely seem to cause more UPwards pressures on the BTC price and justifications for the negative scenarios to have more difficulties in playing out.. sure there are always going to be negative information out there and negative scenarios that are being discussed, and for your own sake, hopefully you are not being talked out of too many of your bitcoin in such process.. .. either your failure refusal to prepare for UP or your selling too many too soon and expecting to buy back at a lower price (of course, I am not referring to you specifically, Wind_FURY), and it seems to me that it hardly even matters which of the bitcoin price prediction models has more influence than others, because there has never been strong abilities to predict short-term BTC price movements, even while we have always had some decent information to recognize and appreciate that in the longer term - such as 4 to 10 years or longer remains quite likely to be UP for our little friend, aka bitcoin.. from where ever we are at currently....

....no guarantees of course, but surely I can still not recognize any other broad-scale and generally applicable investment that would be as good as bitcoin in terms of what to be considering right now in terms of investing for 4-10 years or longer into the future and to reassess after investing (or even to reassess while investing is within the personal discretion of anyone who gets into bitcoin... .. Of course, any of us might be able to invest in various property or business matters that are particularly known to us, but bitcoin remains a very generally applicable investment that remains accessible to everyone on a world-wide basis (which has a lot of paradigm changing power in itself).. even though in bitcoin there can be some favoring of those persons who have some technical skills - especially if a person lives in an area of the world that might not have as good connections to the internet, which is also seeming to become less and less the case... in other words more and more people are gaining at least some ways to access the internet.. which would likely provide some benefits in ways for them to access bitcoin and then to attempt to maintain or manage their bitcoin once they figure out ways to either get into bitcoin or to get exposure to bitcoin's price.  For sure there is information asymmetry that goes on with bitcoin too, so there are still likely quite a few informational asymmetries that continue to exist, and so likely those of us who have already learned about bitcoin and have figure out various ways to get exposure to the bitcoin price (but also know about several of the powers of maintaining your own keys) .. we are going to be more empowered than some folks who have trouble understanding bitcoin or even recognizing the difference between bitcoin and various shitcoins or other distracting projects that are out there and potentially luring folks out of their money and distracting them from getting into bitcoin..

1) Self-Custody is a right.  There is no such thing as "non-custodial" or "un-hosted."  2) ESG, KYC & AML are attack-vectors on Bitcoin to be avoided or minimized.  3) How much alt (shit)coin diversification is necessary? if you are into Bitcoin, then 0%......if you cannot control your gambling, then perhaps limit your alt(shit)coin exposure to less than 10% of your bitcoin size...Put BTC here: bc1q49wt0ddnj07wzzp6z7affw9ven7fztyhevqu9k
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