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Author Topic: ★★★★ [CAIx] ★ First 100% PoS At Launch ★ PSP ★★★★  (Read 416401 times)
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May 30, 2014, 04:43:49 AM
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You had as long as 1.6 million CAIx was available to exchange.  1.6 million worth of coin holders paid attention to the announcements and had zero problems.


I have some Caishencoins (CAI) and I can't do anything with them anymore,how can i exchange cai to caix?


CAI:CJX2a8vn36vRedHoJNF3F3gPfHYAWLTmvE
536.35672788

------------------------------------------------> exchange

CAIx:XhzVVgiorZjna87btmiATRScxWHQujqypi



help us!!!!!  too Many people have the same problem.

I have some coins in the same boat -- I thought they said we were going to have two weeks to exchange CAI for CAIx on Coin-swap, and then after three days that option was GONE! The OP (caishen_project) responded to one PM about this and then went silent. We're not talking about tons of coins, but maybe 1200 CAI or so.
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May 30, 2014, 08:23:33 AM
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Sad( i want dev pay coin to wallet. Hope tomorrow dev will pay all mining.
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May 30, 2014, 08:59:30 AM
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Why the price is so low right now? maybe its something we dont know? Huh

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May 30, 2014, 09:40:55 AM
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Why the price is so low right now? maybe its something we dont know? Huh

Not at all: this is just meant to prevent you from dumping what you made on The Stuhl's back after after whined so much about it.

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May 30, 2014, 11:06:03 AM
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Looks like CAIx is on sale today, ill take it  Grin
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May 30, 2014, 11:07:10 AM
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Looks like CAIx is on sale today, ill take it  Grin
take it, there are few buy orders anyway
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May 30, 2014, 11:20:53 AM
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TheStuhl fucking killed the price with announcing his announcements. I haven't sold a single CAIx yet, but I am starting to get really annoyed buy this masternode bullshit that only forced people to sell their coins.
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May 30, 2014, 11:31:08 AM
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Im getting closer to masternode with prices being where they are now.
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May 30, 2014, 11:32:45 AM
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Im getting closer to masternode with prices being where they are now.

Masternode gives you what exactly? Or you just like to invest without an idea of expected RoI?
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May 30, 2014, 11:39:04 AM
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Im getting closer to masternode with prices being where they are now.

Masternode gives you what exactly? Or you just like to invest without an idea of expected RoI?

I just like to invest in coins that I think are going to increase in value alot over the next few months. But its not just about the money CAIx has and will make me, its about supporting a coin that i believe in and stands out from some of the other coins.
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May 30, 2014, 11:44:59 AM
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Price went down because of people running into DRK. More alts were suffering by this.
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May 30, 2014, 12:23:28 PM
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TheStuhl fucking killed the price with announcing his announcements. I haven't sold a single CAIx yet, but I am starting to get really annoyed buy this masternode bullshit that only forced people to sell their coins.

Why do you think masternode plan is forcing anyone to sell. It's just the opposite way, but it seems that more people like to trade than to stake and get rewarded for that. Anyway, once that Titans start moving coins from market things will get different.
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May 30, 2014, 12:36:31 PM
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TheStuhl fucking killed the price with announcing his announcements. I haven't sold a single CAIx yet, but I am starting to get really annoyed buy this masternode bullshit that only forced people to sell their coins.

Why do you think masternode plan is forcing anyone to sell. It's just the opposite way, but it seems that more people like to trade than to stake and get rewarded for that. Anyway, once that Titans start moving coins from market things will get different.

When is titan coming?
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May 30, 2014, 01:48:25 PM
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TheStuhl fucking killed the price with announcing his announcements. I haven't sold a single CAIx yet, but I am starting to get really annoyed buy this masternode bullshit that only forced people to sell their coins.

Why do you think masternode plan is forcing anyone to sell. It's just the opposite way, but it seems that more people like to trade than to stake and get rewarded for that. Anyway, once that Titans start moving coins from market things will get different.

When is titan coming?

I think it's up to KNC Smiley
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May 30, 2014, 02:12:20 PM
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TheStuhl fucking killed the price with announcing his announcements. I haven't sold a single CAIx yet, but I am starting to get really annoyed buy this masternode bullshit that only forced people to sell their coins.

Why do you think masternode plan is forcing anyone to sell. It's just the opposite way, but it seems that more people like to trade than to stake and get rewarded for that. Anyway, once that Titans start moving coins from market things will get different.

People need to understand that the whole Master Node concept is a BONUS to CAIx investment.  The Stuhl and the Devs created the coin as a cryptocurrency that people will use, and as a coin for long-term investment.  The Tiny Elementals game was separate from CAI/CAIx, but they generously decided to share part of the profits/revenue from the game and it's GDC with CAIx investors.  Why fault them for this, and demand more...?

With respect to the whole CAI/CAIx issue, there was MORE than enough time to exchange the coins, with AMPLE announcement that the change was happening.  Even me, as a crypto-noob, had no issues...I saw the drop-dead announcement of 5/18 deadline via multiple social media outlets weeks in advance, and exchanged my mined coins before then.  The way cryptocurrency is currently, if you don't stay on top of it almost daily, you can have losses.  The onus of loosing your mined CAI and your stake is on YOU, for not monitoring your investment...you cannot say that you lost your 50 Euro overnight due to no fault of your own and the coin creator/devs somehow OWE you for your inattention.  Suck it up, and press on.
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May 30, 2014, 02:32:47 PM
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With respect to the whole CAI/CAIx issue, there was MORE than enough time to exchange the coins, with AMPLE announcement that the change was happening.  Even me, as a crypto-noob, had no issues...I saw the drop-dead announcement of 5/18 deadline via multiple social media outlets weeks in advance, and exchanged my mined coins before then.  The way cryptocurrency is currently, if you don't stay on top of it almost daily, you can have losses.  The onus of loosing your mined CAI and your stake is on YOU, for not monitoring your investment...you cannot say that you lost your 50 Euro overnight due to no fault of your own and the coin creator/devs somehow OWE you for your inattention.  Suck it up, and press on.

I wish people would stop spouting this BS.

The issue is not whether or not there was enough time - Time never entered the equation as there were a limited number of CAIx available and mining more than that number of CAI was allowed. This means that SOME PEOPLE were guaranteed to lose out. Good for you that you managed to exchange your coins - for other people it was not possible.

Up to about a week before the switch, I saw expected dates for mining ENDING of the 19th announced. Mining did not end and that date came forward to the 18th! For example this post on the evening of the 8th May:


this address shows total coins mined on CAI, so 1.6 Mill + 368K that will be destroyed = 1968000 to be mined on CAI
before the mining end. That puts the final day at around : 10.5 days from now.

Not everybody can watch the forums and twitter constantly - I was away with work when this process happened and had no access to my wallet which was secure on my home PC which was powered off. On the 19th when I returned home, it was too late (by just a couple of hours!)

Rather than putting people down who have lost out, how about thinking of other people before yourself and trying to help? TheStuhlman has said he will try to help others by using his own equipment on the mining pool up to the value of the CAI they owned on the 18th. My suggestion to anyone in the position of having missed the exchange is to PM TheStuhlman and hopefully he can still help.
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May 30, 2014, 02:43:14 PM
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Woohooo! I have 1'129 coins, only 871 left to buy people! Wish me luck on my journey!!

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May 30, 2014, 02:53:31 PM
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Yes, those that didn't pay attention or thought it would be cool to procrastinate until the last second.

"This means that SOME PEOPLE were guaranteed to lose out."
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May 30, 2014, 02:57:26 PM
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Some guys complaining about CAI not switchable can you stfu and go away? This is like 2 weeks old. Looking forward for my new boat and masternodes B)
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With respect to the whole CAI/CAIx issue, there was MORE than enough time to exchange the coins, with AMPLE announcement that the change was happening.  Even me, as a crypto-noob, had no issues...I saw the drop-dead announcement of 5/18 deadline via multiple social media outlets weeks in advance, and exchanged my mined coins before then.  The way cryptocurrency is currently, if you don't stay on top of it almost daily, you can have losses.  The onus of loosing your mined CAI and your stake is on YOU, for not monitoring your investment...you cannot say that you lost your 50 Euro overnight due to no fault of your own and the coin creator/devs somehow OWE you for your inattention.  Suck it up, and press on.

I wish people would stop spouting this BS.

The issue is not whether or not there was enough time - Time never entered the equation as there were a limited number of CAIx available and mining more than that number of CAI was allowed. This means that SOME PEOPLE were guaranteed to lose out. Good for you that you managed to exchange your coins - for other people it was not possible.

Up to about a week before the switch, I saw expected dates for mining ENDING of the 19th announced. Mining did not end and that date came forward to the 18th! For example this post on the evening of the 8th May:


this address shows total coins mined on CAI, so 1.6 Mill + 368K that will be destroyed = 1968000 to be mined on CAI
before the mining end. That puts the final day at around : 10.5 days from now.

Not everybody can watch the forums and twitter constantly - I was away with work when this process happened and had no access to my wallet which was secure on my home PC which was powered off. On the 19th when I returned home, it was too late (by just a couple of hours!)

Rather than putting people down who have lost out, how about thinking of other people before yourself and trying to help? TheStuhlman has said he will try to help others by using his own equipment on the mining pool up to the value of the CAI they owned on the 18th. My suggestion to anyone in the position of having missed the exchange is to PM TheStuhlman and hopefully he can still help.

I wish that people would stop saying anything that contradicts their viewpoint as BS.  There was no need to watch twitter and forums daily...I did not.  Yet I was still able to convert my small amount of CAI.  Mining estimation as to the amount of days is just that...estimation.  A couple of big miners having a power failure can change the ESTIMATED time significantly...by days.  I am not putting people down, I am, however, frustrated reading that people who don't follow their investment in a VOLATILE commodity, such as a cryptocurrency, immediately cry scam and want to be made whole.  People say that if this were BTC there would not be this kind of issue...but this is not BTC, it aspires to be, but not at this time.  Are the issues with Darkcoin a scam? How about X11?  And BlackCoin?  All of the investors/miners/traders of those coins should be CRYING for their respective Devs to reimburse them for their trading losses. At some point, people need to move on with the "I didn't know that it was going to change...reimburse me" mindset.

When it comes to "being allow to mine more than the number of CAI that was allowed", do miners need to be babysat?  If I knew that the deadline was around May 18th, which I did weeks in advance from all of the social media announcements, I stopped mining CAI and went on to something else.  I didn't miss out on exchanging, but if I did, it would be my fault for doing so.  Should the devs be responsible for those that AFK mine volatile cryptocurrencies?

I'm not an apologist, but I don't see a lack of communication by The Stuhl.  I however, see a lack of people monitoring their investment, and crying "foul!"  With the way these altcoins change in value by 20%-30% or more a day...one cannot honestly say that they put money into it and expected to sit on their investment for more than a week without monitoring.

And as for you, I am not attacking you personally, but can you seriously say that you have enough confidence in a cryptocurrency that you can put hard earned cash into it and forget about it for weeks+ (being out of touch at work), and expect to profit?  This is not a CD or a bond.

Sorry for being harsh, but it's time to move on, or leave cryptocurrencies altogether since it's so volatile.

As an aside, I in no way speak for CAIx, or it's dev.  I own about 3.2k total now, and have mined it since the beginning.  Wallet address: XdT2HVVmjXH7bqoemmmKZdCmyZyPDu6VZu, with about a 1K on MintPal for trading.
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