Vod is a liar & extortionist. Get him out of DT!

[TECSHARE]

You and OG have a long documented history of crying trust abuse.

We both have a long documented history of calling out YOUR trust system abuse

True.  You have called me a trust abuser many times.  Any time you disagree with my trust.  

You also have a long daily history of calling other profiles trust abusers!

But, I don't care.  

I didn't just call you a trust abuser, I proved it over and over again with documented evidence of your behavior, unlike you who have substantiated ZERO of your accusations against myself or OGNasty for that matter. You sure do a lot of arguing for some one who doesn't care.

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[ibminer]

Funny you aren't asking Vod to present any facts...

I guess OGNasty is just guilty until proven innocent? The FACT that Vod had abused his position repeatedly over the years is well documented, here with plenty of facts.

Og was making a claim of extortion (which typically involves money)... the thread he linked, which I admittedly don't remember seeing at the time (or ignored as more useless bickering), was some sort of nonsense public "settlement" about leaving the forum and getting their accounts banned. I don't care what Og or others pay in taxes and do not want his tax number . I believe one should pay taxes, but I also believe the government takes too much (then uses it inappropriately).. so I can't take issue with trying to legally minimize the amount that is taken away.

I stated in my prior post that I'm ignoring both Vod's and OgNasty's statements that do not present any evidence. The one time I did question Vod about the content to one of Og's chopped up PMs, he provided additional context/evidence which showed more of the conversation and IMO showed Og to be misrepresenting the truth. I've already explained this. Og hasn't provided anything but generalized comments which are basically saying things along the lines of "the full context won't make this any better for Vod".. but then he won't provide them?

I'm not saying I agree with the snarky comment that Og spun into some sort of demand for merit and abusing his position as a merit source, but Og seems to be intently trying to deceive to smear someone in this thread and it appears pretty vindictive to me.

You didn't mention anything about your thoughts of Vod encouraging people to throw rocks through another forum user's windows to cause financial damage.  Are you ok with that too?

I do not condone violent behavior.. including a few posts ago when you were making your own thinly veiled threat.. to someone who hasn't even been determined to be a scammer.

In other words, you’re the bitch.    

Keep that same energy when you see me.

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[OgNasty]

You didn't mention anything about your thoughts of Vod encouraging people to throw rocks through another forum user's windows to cause financial damage.  Are you ok with that too?

I do not condone violent behavior..

Encouraging other people to damage private property isn't violent behavior, it's nutless behavior.  Are you able to say Vod acted inappropriately, or can you only deflect his behavior at me?

[The-One-Above-All]

Funny you aren't asking Vod to present any facts...

I guess OGNasty is just guilty until proven innocent? The FACT that Vod had abused his position repeatedly over the years is well documented, here with plenty of facts.

Og was making a claim of extortion (which typically involves money)... the thread he linked, which I admittedly don't remember seeing at the time (or ignored as more useless bickering), was some sort of nonsense public "settlement" about leaving the forum and getting their accounts banned. I don't care what Og or others pay in taxes and do not want his tax number . I believe one should pay taxes, but I also believe the government takes too much (then uses it inappropriately).. so I can't take issue with trying to legally minimize the amount that is taken away.

I stated in my prior post that I'm ignoring both Vod's and OgNasty's statements that do not present any evidence. The one time I did question Vod about the content to one of Og's chopped up PMs, he provided additional context/evidence which showed more of the conversation and IMO showed Og to be misrepresenting the truth. I've already explained this. Og hasn't provided anything but generalized comments which are basically saying things along the lines of "the full context won't make this any better for Vod".. but then he won't provide them?

I'm not saying I agree with the snarky comment that Og spun into some sort of demand for merit and abusing his position as a merit source, but Og seems to be intently trying to deceive to smear someone in this thread and it appears pretty vindictive to me.

You didn't mention anything about your thoughts of Vod encouraging people to throw rocks through another forum user's windows to cause financial damage.  Are you ok with that too?

I do not condone violent behavior.. including a few posts ago when you were making your own thinly veiled threat.. to someone who hasn't even been determined to be a scammer.

In other words, you’re the bitch.    

Keep that same energy when you see me.

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Lol what more evidence do you require.

Vod is a proven trust abuser. Evidence is clear in our own trust abuse. This idiot claims that you can be given red trust for refusing to accept his wild accusations on our self moderated thread without him presenting evidence to substantiate his claims. He had already made the same unsubstantiated claim 2 x on that thread that we did not delete. His reasons for red are bogus and undeniably so.

That is proven trust abuse.

Vod doxed a forum treasurer. This is flagrant abuse of the rules of this forum. This is also wreckless endangerment of a persons life and the forums funds.

Vod is making claims in red on OG's account that he is a tax scammer still and providing not one shred of evidence. He and other DTs claims we are guilty of defamation for asking a question regarding observable instances of which we provided clear links and were not disputed by anyone.

Vod is a liar and pushing clear double standards to suit his agenda.

Vod has previously admitted he will not dare even act against those like lauda because he fears they will ruin his account in retaliation. Weasel self serving behavior.

OG should be doing more not less and not focusing specifically on VOD. The system that allow vod to paint OG red are the real problem. Vod is a symptom only.

Vod is pushing clear double standards and making statements/accusations that he is unable to prove. Based on his observable past behaviors listed above and the sorts of members he supports (also who have given red trust to og) we say it is reasonable to assume that vod is far more likely to be telling lies than OG.

Og should have never removed laudas red in return for his own being removed. That was a big error but then theymos seems to have had some hand in that. Otherwise his behavior over the years seems pretty much spot on.

Employing clear double standards is pretty much the same as lying. It is certainly highly untrustworthy. Grouped with his other behaviors it is clear the warning signs are there.

Has vod done good here in the past? perhaps so , therefore stop supporting scammers, stop pushing double standards,  stop trust abusing and man up to those you admit you are scared of regardless of what they try to do to your account and perhaps redemption is possible. Keep to making accusations you can support with observable instances and you will be okay.

Vod is untrustworthy. It clearly is that simple.

[Vod]

Encouraging other people to damage private property isn't violent behavior, it's nutless behavior.  Are you able to say Vod acted inappropriately, or can you only deflect his behavior at me?

Geez, what do you say I did now?  I suppose you have the same level of proof you have for your other lies?

Is this helping your rep, OG?

 

[OgNasty]

Geez, what do you say I did now?

I was pretty clear.

Is this helping your rep, OG?

I'm not the one obsessed with my reputation.  The truth will set you free, Vag.

[Vod]

Geez, what do you say I did now?

I was pretty clear.

Ok, as long as everyone knows you are making this all up.   

[TECSHARE]

Geez, what do you say I did now?

I was pretty clear.

Ok, as long as everyone knows you are making this all up.  

Vag is having that "not so fresh feeling." At least we know where he pulls all his lies from now.

[ibminer]

[OgNasty]

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You didn't mention anything about your thoughts of Vod encouraging people to throw rocks through another forum user's windows to cause financial damage.  Are you ok with that too?

I do not condone violent behavior..

Encouraging other people to damage private property isn't violent behavior, it's nutless behavior.  Are you able to say Vod acted inappropriately, or can you only deflect his behavior at me?

ibminer, why post here if you're going to ignore a legitimate question that addresses your inability to be impartial?  You argue until your misguided intentions are displayed, then you try to change the conversation with a silly meme?

[ibminer]

My intentions have primarily been to get the truth and I do believe I was clear when I said I do not condone violent behavior.

As for deflecting... I'm curious what you would call it when someone is arguing that someone is a liar, then he brings up a situation relating to throwing rocks at a scammers window 6 years ago?  I'd say that's probably a good example of deflecting.. by you. Me pointing out your hypocrisy and disagreeing with your current behaviors isn't really the same thing, IMO.

I'm guessing you'd just like some sort of explicit quote from me here which you can then utilize to attack others (reminds me of QS).. and I don't want to be a part of that game.

When it comes to facts, I believe I've been objective. When it comes to baseless attacks and insults without any facts, I believe I've been impartial in judging and/or deciding to ignore those from both sides.

[TECSHARE]

My intentions have primarily been to get the truth and I do believe I was clear when I said I do not condone violent behavior.

As for deflecting... I'm curious what you would call it when someone is arguing that someone is a liar, then he brings up a situation relating to throwing rocks at a scammers window 6 years ago?  I'd say that's probably a good example of deflecting.. by you. Me pointing out your hypocrisy and disagreeing with your current behaviors isn't really the same thing, IMO.

I'm guessing you'd just like some sort of explicit quote from me here which you can then utilize to attack others (reminds me of QS).. and I don't want to be a part of that game.

When it comes to facts, I believe I've been objective. When it comes to baseless attacks and insults without any facts, I believe I've been impartial in judging and/or deciding to ignore those from both sides.

The reason everyone keeps bringing up Vods past behavior is because first of all he never admits any fault and denies it ever happened. There is a long standing pattern of this and the community not holding him responsible for his very extensive history of documented abusive behavior, therefore enabling him to continue without consequence. You are not at all impartial or objective, you were defending Vod with false equivalence from your very first comment. You try to give the APPEARANCE  of being objective, but that is not the same thing.

[Thule]

Vod is a trust abuser who has some mental issues.

What can you expect from someone who has a mental complex and is working for security to get some feeling of authority.

[OgNasty]

Vod is a trust abuser who has some mental issues.

Clearly, his decision to make up a lie claiming I offered him NastyMining shares (which don't even exist) to sponsor his project and then attacking me with lies when I disputed his false claim with facts shows the guy has a few screws loose.  It does highlight the behavior he's been getting away with for far too long and shows who supports honesty and who supports whatever troll is making waves around here. 

[jc01480]

This is not news.  This has been a known issue for years.  Why is anyone surprised?  Might as well let the Fed moderate this thing.

[OgNasty]

This is not news.  This has been a known issue for years.  Why is anyone surprised?  Might as well let the Fed moderate this thing.

Probably due to the large amount of users that still have positive trust view of him despite his being a confirmed liar and overall disgusting human being.

[xolxol]

This is not news.  This has been a known issue for years.  Why is anyone surprised?  Might as well let the Fed moderate this thing.

Probably due to the large amount of users that still have positive trust view of him despite his being a confirmed liar and overall disgusting human being.

you mean his colleague's alts? Vodie wont stop until his abusive friends are all out from the DT hierarchy.

[OgNasty]

This is not news.  This has been a known issue for years.  Why is anyone surprised?  Might as well let the Fed moderate this thing.

Probably due to the large amount of users that still have positive trust view of him despite his being a confirmed liar and overall disgusting human being.

you mean his colleague's alts? Vodie wont stop until his abusive friends are all out from the DT hierarchy.

The current DT system rewards the most motivated and willing to manipulate. Obviously the conmen are going to put in more effort than the rest of us to maintain their ratings, especially if that’s the only thing they associate with being relevant. You can only hope that one day the system stops pandering to scammers and starts rewarding innovation. Unfortunately, I fear Bitcoin’s success turned many of it’s cypherpunk protectors into scared businessmen.

[OgNasty]

Nice to see Vod's little lacky blaming me for them spending BTC in 2015 at a lower rate...  If they truly think this way, you have to assume in their mind, they're stealing your future BTC appreciation by attempting to get your BTC now in the form of a sponsorship of their site.  Pretty sad.  This is why it's important to know someone's motivations when getting into bed with them.  If you do business with these types of people and the exchange rate doesn't break in their favor, this is the kind of trolling you can expect years later.  Be warned...  Going into business with people like this is never a good idea, as this thread demonstrates quite clearly.  

I recall one purchase I've made in the past... a physical coin. You wanna buy it?

It's a NastyFans 5oz silver physical bitcoin with 5 minted seats which collect a little bitcoin dust every year. You could have everything its collected over the past 4 years PLUS any dust in the future! It would be just like you're joining the club in 2015 -- instant old timer! PLUS it also makes a great looking paper weight.

OgNasty just said physical bitcoins will rise in value though, so it's even tougher to let this go now, but I'm willing to sell it for the price I bought it for... ~1.6BTC. Since your new, I'll even cut you a huge deal -- 1BTC w/free shipping!    

It's a steal of a deal!!  PM if interested!!  

I'd say "/sarcasm" here.. but IF you wanna buy it -- I'm serious!!

....Keep your BTC or buy BTC!

Imagine being mad at someone for sending BTC to your coins for years.  

I've wanted a physical coin for a while, and like I said before, I like the concept of NastyMining/NastyFans, not to mention the coin looks great... and given the commendable effort you have put forth towards the bitcoin community in general, I have no doubts about the potential for success in the Nasty* Brand. If it ends up being a loss on my end, hopefully you can put it to good use. Long story short, I'm in for one

He seemed to be happy with his purchase until the BTC rate jumped.  

Edit: I see Vod has now deleted his post where he was making claims about not collecting sales tax on the forum. 

[Vod]

Imagine being mad at someone for sending BTC to your coins for years.  

Imagine being mad cause an inflated sales price was justified by you sending BTC for years, and you only send 1/100BTC.  That sounds a lot more reasonable.

He seemed to be happy with his purchase until the BTC rate jumped. 

That was four years ago - a different time. 
You seemed to be happy with my work until I rejected your demand for free advertising. 
You PMed me thanking for setting the "douche" Anduck straight.
You were calling Blazed a trust scammer.
You wanted to kick the asses of more than one forum member. 

Again, it sounds a lot more reasonable to assume he wants to dump it since it's part of a tax scam and the seller has turned out to be very dishonest.  :/