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June 22, 2025, 02:38:15 PM
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It sound that Bellator are totally low level promotion Cheesy Imho they simply should not put Bellator champion straight against a guy that is high in top division. Bellator guys are better than average guys in division, they are same level as low tier of division top. Maybe its their ego that does not allow them to fight someone lower than a champion Cheesy Maybe its judges fault that Bellator guys does not perform that well. Because they did not lose by KO or submission, they lose by decision. Maybe for judges its like "our guy vs guest" fight, and they give a little + to UFC guy when filling score cards.
In the end, Bellator is still UFC's competitor. There are two moments, former Bellator fighters want to fight Champions to either prove that they are really the best or they want to make lots of money with fight against Champions. There is also another moment, Dana White might be the guy who does this intentionally to make Bellator fighters appear bad and not worthy of being a Champion. This way he is damaging Bellator's and their athletes' reputation and increases UFC's reputation. It might sound crazy what I'm saying but I expect everything from money addict Dana White.

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June 22, 2025, 03:49:12 PM
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And yeah..  Jon Jones just retired.  Sad.

Yup. It's official. Dana has (casually) announced that in the post-event interview, confirming Tom Aspinall is the heavyweight champion.

Jon Jones has also made a statement on X:
https://x.com/JonnyBones/status/1936597970947834353
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Today, I’m officially announcing my retirement from the UFC. This decision comes after a lot of reflection, and I want to take a moment to express my deepest gratitude for the journey I’ve experienced over the years.

From the first time I stepped into the Octagon, my goal was to push the boundaries of what was possible in this sport. Becoming the youngest UFC champion in history, defending my title against some of the best fighters in the world, and sharing unforgettable moments with fans across the globe—these are memories I’ll cherish forever. I’ve faced incredible highs and some tough lows, but every challenge has taught me something valuable and made me stronger, both as a fighter and as a person.

I want to thank the UFC, Dana, Hunter, Lorenzo, God, my family, coaches, teammates, and all the fans who have stood by me through every chapter. Your unwavering support and belief in me have been my foundation. To my fellow fighters, thank you for bringing out the best in me and for the respect we’ve shared inside and outside the cage.

As I close this chapter of my life, I look forward to new opportunities and challenges ahead. MMA will always be a part of who I am, and I’m excited to see how I can continue to contribute to the sport and inspire others in new ways. Thank you all for being part of this incredible journey with me. The best is yet to come.

Most of the comments are not favourable ones, which doesn't surprise me at all.
I don't blame him for retiring, if he doesn't feel like fighting anymore, he shouldn't. Nobody should be forced to put their health on the line. But he should've sat himself down and made up his mind much sooner than this. Dragging things for that long when he was not interested in having that fight was a d*ck move and a shameful way of finishing his career.

 
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June 22, 2025, 05:40:52 PM
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Finally, Bones has retired. However I think he still has strength, power and youth for one more fight Cheesy Anyway, I am really happy that he has retired and finally stopped pausing heavyweight division. Now Aspinall needs an opponent, and I think it will be announced soon that he will be having a fight.

In my instagram posts about Jamahal Hill fired from UFC started to appear? Seems like a fake, but I would not be surprised if he really got fired if he looses his next fight.

Pair that has only KO in this even got a double bonuses, fight of the night and KO of the night Cheesy Nice, sweet 100k Cheesy

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June 22, 2025, 05:58:30 PM
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Finally, Bones has retired. However I think he still has strength, power and youth for one more fight Cheesy Anyway, I am really happy that he has retired and finally stopped pausing heavyweight division. Now Aspinall needs an opponent, and I think it will be announced soon that he will be having a fight.

In my instagram posts about Jamahal Hill fired from UFC started to appear? Seems like a fake, but I would not be surprised if he really got fired if he looses his next fight.

Pair that has only KO in this even got a double bonuses, fight of the night and KO of the night Cheesy Nice, sweet 100k Cheesy

As he said in X, he was just a trophy and hadn't trained since his last fight. He was just filling a spot. It's a good thing Aspinall started this mess, otherwise he would have stayed for much longer. Now the category can finally move forward and entertainment can happen.

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June 23, 2025, 02:48:53 AM
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I reckon that after the retirement of Jon the chicken legs of the bones Jones, we will witness another fighter who will be transferred to the heavier division and this will be much easier for this fighter because he is not anymore holding a championship in the light heavyweight division. Yes, similar to the big headed Topuria and Islam, Alex Pereira will also be commanded by uncle Dana to fight in a heavier division.

I predict that Alex Pereira will fight Cyril Gane before he will be given the command by uncle Dana to challenge the moon face Tom hehehehe.

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June 23, 2025, 09:47:52 AM
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Finally, Bones has retired. However I think he still has strength, power and youth for one more fight Cheesy Anyway, I am really happy that he has retired and finally stopped pausing heavyweight division. Now Aspinall needs an opponent, and I think it will be announced soon that he will be having a fight.

In my instagram posts about Jamahal Hill fired from UFC started to appear? Seems like a fake, but I would not be surprised if he really got fired if he looses his next fight.

Pair that has only KO in this even got a double bonuses, fight of the night and KO of the night Cheesy Nice, sweet 100k Cheesy

As he said in X, he was just a trophy and hadn't trained since his last fight. He was just filling a spot. It's a good thing Aspinall started this mess, otherwise he would have stayed for much longer. Now the category can finally move forward and entertainment can happen.

I wish to know what made Bones take such decision to retire. Since November 2024 he was waking up every morning (or not morning), thinking that he would still fight. He has been doing that for a while, and then, all of a sudden, he woke up and decides to end his career. Just like that, by sending a message or giving a call. Not after a fight against Stipe, he has made such decision. Its like breaking up with an sms instead of having a talk Cheesy

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June 23, 2025, 10:26:12 AM
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Finally, Bones has retired. However I think he still has strength, power and youth for one more fight Cheesy Anyway, I am really happy that he has retired and finally stopped pausing heavyweight division. Now Aspinall needs an opponent, and I think it will be announced soon that he will be having a fight.

In my instagram posts about Jamahal Hill fired from UFC started to appear? Seems like a fake, but I would not be surprised if he really got fired if he looses his next fight.

Pair that has only KO in this even got a double bonuses, fight of the night and KO of the night Cheesy Nice, sweet 100k Cheesy

As he said in X, he was just a trophy and hadn't trained since his last fight. He was just filling a spot. It's a good thing Aspinall started this mess, otherwise he would have stayed for much longer. Now the category can finally move forward and entertainment can happen.

I wish to know what made Bones take such decision to retire. Since November 2024 he was waking up every morning (or not morning), thinking that he would still fight. He has been doing that for a while, and then, all of a sudden, he woke up and decides to end his career. Just like that, by sending a message or giving a call. Not after a fight against Stipe, he has made such decision. Its like breaking up with an sms instead of having a talk Cheesy

He just found out that he can only squeeze $12M from UFC after being the goat for years. Not worth it if he gets to be the joke of all time if he loses against Tom.

He probably is sure to lose against Tom. UFC can now move on to Tom vs X since Jones is not relevant anymore..Waste of time speculating when that guy will have the courage but it is what it is.


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I didn't realize that the next PPV event with Topuria was gonna be this weekend!  Looking at the roster, even tho the main event is kinda weak for a card like this, I gotta say the main card and the preliminary card is rock solid!

And didn't Joshua Van fight just a couple of weeks ago?  Lol.  I think he'll have a harder time vs Royval this time around.

Date:  Saturday, June 28
Main Card (PPV):  10:00pm EST
Preliminary Card (ESPN/ESPN+):  8:00pm EST
Early Prelims (ESPN+/Fight Pass):  6:00pm EST
Venue:  T Mobile Arena, Las Vegas, Nevada



Main Card (PPV)
Lightweight:  Ilia Topuria vs. Charles Oliveira   
Flyweight:  Alexandre Pantoja vs. Kai Kara-France   
Flyweight:  Brandon Royval vs. Joshua Van            
Lightweight:  Beneil Dariush vs. Renato Moicano            
Bantamweight:  Payton Talbott vs. Felipe Lima   

Preliminary Card (ESPN/ESPN+)
Middleweight:  Jack Hermansson vs. Gregory Rodrigues            
Featherweight:  Hyder Amil vs. Jose Miguel Delgado            
Women's Flyweight:  Viviane Araújo vs. Tracy Cortez            
Lightweight:  Terrance McKinney vs. Viacheslav Borshchev

Early Prelims (ESPN+/UFC Fight Pass)
Middleweight:  Sedriques Dumas   vs. Jackson McVey            
Heavyweight:  Jhonata Diniz vs. Alvin Hines            
Welterweight:  Niko Price vs. Jacobe Smith

UFC 317:  Countdown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUtUH8OqQ_4

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He just found out that he can only squeeze $12M from UFC after being the goat for years. Not worth it if he gets to be the joke of all time if he loses against Tom.

He probably is sure to lose against Tom. UFC can now move on to Tom vs X since Jones is not relevant anymore..Waste of time speculating when that guy will have the courage but it is what it is.


12m +% from PPV sales. Every champion that has a title fight receive share from PPV. Plus fight of the night most probably bonus Grin Right now I wonder what Bones will be doing next. I have never heard about him investing into something or having any business. UFC salary are his only money? I always wonder what do professional fighters do to earn when they retire. Couple or years they can sell their face and earn from media. Maybe 5 years or so they can do courses, but that does not cost so much. I am slowly moving this conversation to if we going to see Bones in 5-10 years in any other promotion? Or would he go to boxing now? Grin

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You guys watched the Sadykhov vs Motta one.  One of the most fun fights I've seen while it lasted.  Grin

I've just watched the highlights:
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What a crazy fight. You could tell the referee was just waiting for the right moment to stop it in the first round, when it looked like Sadykhov was on his way out, but keeping the guard up worked and he survived.
Both got $100k each in bonuses: $50k for performance of the night and $50k for the fight of the night. Well deserved.

(...) Now Aspinall needs an opponent, and I think it will be announced soon that he will be having a fight.

I guess they could give him Gane, as he's the number 1 contender now and they haven't fought against each other yet. Aspinall would be a big favourite, but Gane is considered a very solid striker, so there's a big chance he could be the first one to survive the 1st round against Tom.

 
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All 6 preliminary card fights and 3 out of 5 main card fights ended with a decision. Finishes are becoming rare these days.
Well done to Fiziev and Blades for winning their fights. They both fought a lower-ranked opponents but passed their tests and proven they belong at the top.

The main event: Jamahal Hill Vs Khalil Rountree is still going. I can't watch it live, but I see the live odds for Rountree are only x1.07, so he must be doing really well. He was my favourite anyway, as I'm not a big fan of Hill and think him getting the belt was largely due to luck.


Khalil was simply superior. I hope that now the UFC looks at Hill and throws him out of the rankings. This guy can't do anything in the fights anymore and his marketing is based on controversy. He'll be fired soon if he keeps this up.
Hill was very weak in the Khalil and Perreria matches, these fighters are already top fighters, but Hill has a stance that would be weak against fighters in the top 10. He doesn't look in shape for a long time, it will be hard to see Hill anymore, I mean, he saw that there is no goal left, there is no way to go, he sees this in the UFC, they threw him in front of the champions a few times and they won't throw him more because that was enough.

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Do many of you can name Hill achievements? Cheesy He is kinda a phenomenon in light heavyweight roster. I dont remember big skulls in his career. Only took vacant belt from aged Texeira hands. People say that he was good at knocking people, but there were not so many in his record Cheesy KO over Johny Walker Cheesy But who hasnt KOed Walker? Cheesy Anyway, he is a bit overestimated imho.

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Looking at the odds rn...  At first glance the bets I like are Hyder Amil at 2.50, Jack Hermansson at 2.70, Payton Talbott at 2.60, Brandon Royval at 2.02 and a parlay for Pantoja - Topuria at 1.68.

Damn, can't believe these were underdogs when I checked them.  Was thinking they'd be lined closer together.  The Beneil Daruish one is at 2.01.  If they lined it around 2.20, I'd def pick him over Moicano.

And it looks like these guys are promoting Topuria as the next big thing at 155.

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Does anyone give any chance to Charles Oliveira in upcoming fight against Ilia Topuria?
He is a huge underdog in this fight and I cant believe the odds I see on him are so high.
I think taking fight fo to distance is less risky and it pays better:
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Finally, Bones has retired. However I think he still has strength, power and youth for one more fight Cheesy Anyway, I am really happy that he has retired and finally stopped pausing heavyweight division. Now Aspinall needs an opponent, and I think it will be announced soon that he will be having a fight.

In my instagram posts about Jamahal Hill fired from UFC started to appear? Seems like a fake, but I would not be surprised if he really got fired if he looses his next fight.

Pair that has only KO in this even got a double bonuses, fight of the night and KO of the night Cheesy Nice, sweet 100k Cheesy

As he said in X, he was just a trophy and hadn't trained since his last fight. He was just filling a spot. It's a good thing Aspinall started this mess, otherwise he would have stayed for much longer. Now the category can finally move forward and entertainment can happen.

I wish to know what made Bones take such decision to retire. Since November 2024 he was waking up every morning (or not morning), thinking that he would still fight. He has been doing that for a while, and then, all of a sudden, he woke up and decides to end his career. Just like that, by sending a message or giving a call. Not after a fight against Stipe, he has made such decision. Its like breaking up with an sms instead of having a talk Cheesy

The last thing I saw him do before his retirement was walk off the full send podcast after being asked about ducking Aspinall. I think he just didn’t want to fight him and has gotten sick of all the questions. He said he had another fighter in mind and apparently was stuck in a standoff with the UFC. He chose to retire rather than bend the knee.

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June 25, 2025, 01:10:02 AM
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Finally, Bones has retired. However I think he still has strength, power and youth for one more fight Cheesy Anyway, I am really happy that he has retired and finally stopped pausing heavyweight division. Now Aspinall needs an opponent, and I think it will be announced soon that he will be having a fight.

In my instagram posts about Jamahal Hill fired from UFC started to appear? Seems like a fake, but I would not be surprised if he really got fired if he looses his next fight.

Pair that has only KO in this even got a double bonuses, fight of the night and KO of the night Cheesy Nice, sweet 100k Cheesy

As he said in X, he was just a trophy and hadn't trained since his last fight. He was just filling a spot. It's a good thing Aspinall started this mess, otherwise he would have stayed for much longer. Now the category can finally move forward and entertainment can happen.

I wish to know what made Bones take such decision to retire. Since November 2024 he was waking up every morning (or not morning), thinking that he would still fight. He has been doing that for a while, and then, all of a sudden, he woke up and decides to end his career. Just like that, by sending a message or giving a call. Not after a fight against Stipe, he has made such decision. Its like breaking up with an sms instead of having a talk Cheesy

The last thing I saw him do before his retirement was walk off the full send podcast after being asked about ducking Aspinall. I think he just didn’t want to fight him and has gotten sick of all the questions. He said he had another fighter in mind and apparently was stuck in a standoff with the UFC. He chose to retire rather than bend the knee.

Look, I don't think there's ever been another fighter. They just brought him out of retirement, made him fight a few times and then left him aside. He had said that since his last fight he had stopped training and if I'm not mistaken it was more than 6 months. For a fighter who is active, going that long without training is unthinkable.

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June 25, 2025, 06:36:40 AM
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The last thing I saw him do before his retirement was walk off the full send podcast after being asked about ducking Aspinall. I think he just didn’t want to fight him and has gotten sick of all the questions. He said he had another fighter in mind and apparently was stuck in a standoff with the UFC. He chose to retire rather than bend the knee.

Or, even if UFC was his job, he does not like to be commanded. Same story is hyping around Topuria and Makhachev. Who has said that Makhachev must fight Topuria? But mma society are pumping it like Islam is ducking him and ran away to other division.

Does anyone give any chance to Charles Oliveira in upcoming fight against Ilia Topuria?

I do give chances to Charles to shut Topurias loud mouth Cheesy Topuria is acting like there is him, the greatest fighter, and the rest. I really wish Charles to put Topuria to sleep, but odds are really unbelievable. +4.50 on Charles. He has all the chances to submit Topuria. Btw, tokeween, are you taking that risk? Cheesy You do like huge underdogs Cheesy

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June 25, 2025, 12:19:09 PM
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Does anyone give any chance to Charles Oliveira in upcoming fight against Ilia Topuria?
He is a huge underdog in this fight and I cant believe the odds I see on him are so high.
I think taking fight fo to distance is less risky and it pays better:
https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/mma/ufc/ufc/ilia-topuria-vs-charles-oliveira-0010799ef300000000000000

There's always 'a chance' as it's MMA, anything could happen.  But would I bet on that 'chance'?  No, I'm on the other side of this bet.  Some props for Topuria could be good here like the round props.  

But if there's a huge underdog that has more of a chance in this event, it's KKF imho.  He prolly could make it really close against Pantoja.

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June 25, 2025, 12:48:00 PM
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Does anyone give any chance to Charles Oliveira in upcoming fight against Ilia Topuria?

I do give chances to Charles to shut Topurias loud mouth Cheesy Topuria is acting like there is him, the greatest fighter, and the rest. I really wish Charles to put Topuria to sleep, but odds are really unbelievable. +4.50 on Charles. He has all the chances to submit Topuria. Btw, tokeween, are you taking that risk? Cheesy You do like huge underdogs Cheesy
The hype that he created at Featherweight made him a big favorite to win on this one. I mean how he dominated that division is one reason. Also add the fact that he's undefeated, and he's way younger than Oliveira is another one. I want to give Oliveria a chance to win on this one, but with how Topuria defeated those big fighters in featherweight, I'm thinking that the only fighter that can stop him is Makachev. I might be wrong though because this is a different division already. Still, anything is possible. One punch can change everything so I don't want to rule out Oliveira as well.

Will I take the risk? No, and I don't think that this will end in a 5-round series as well. I would predict that this will end in 3 rounds. Cheesy

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Nerd part Cheesy

I guess its not a secret that Ilia Topuria is copy/pasting some of Conor McGregor behaviour, style (proof Cheesy). Previously Conor Also has moved from featherweight division to lightweight, and that is when his problems started. Look at Conor fighting record. Conor was small in lightweight. Ilia is about to step on the same rake. People say that Ilia is small for lightweight, I support that. Maybe he will pass Oliveira, but what would he do next? Other guys in divisions are huge guys as well. Ilia wont fight anyone lower than top5.

Heard that UFC are planning to run a BJJ tournament? This is how UFCBJJ belt is going to look.



Honestly, it looks cheap. Original golden UFC belt looks much cooler.

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