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May 22, 2019, 10:02:52 PM
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Hobby?
Electability?
What are you talking about?

This isn't a hobby but a profession and have some time to differentiate among the two.
@Supercrypt i do believe on the same thing which retirement wont be so soon as long theres still money he can win of.
Now Pacman is a member of the senate in the Philippines. it doesn't rule out the possibility that he will elected for president, so with pacman still boxing until right now I think he can make his electability continue to rise at least in his country Philippines.
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May 22, 2019, 11:45:18 PM
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Now Pacman is a member of the senate in the Philippines. it doesn't rule out the possibility that he will elected for president, so with pacman still boxing until right now I think he can make his electability continue to rise at least in his country Philippines.

The time he might be run for president, he's already retired. 2022 is the next Presidential PH election and majority wants *** (not MP) to run for president. So it's another 6 years before he can consider running for that position. 49 years old at that time.

Too much speculation and off-topic. Let's now head to the main point of this thread.



Yeah maybe Pacquiao is in condition and still in good shape but he’s not that fast and strong like when he was in his 20-30’s ,now that he is in 40’s things have change a lot now and this is must be accept by all of us Manny’s fans worldwide

What do you expect obviously from 20-30 to 40s? lol.

Manny's fans around the world already knows that. Others even take that as his disadvantage since Jeff Horn match but look what happened especially with the follow-up matches?

Now with Truman, expect the same statement will rise again.

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May 23, 2019, 12:29:57 AM
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Age is just a number! And Manny Pacquiao is one of that adage's living proof. Manny already had fights with younger boxers before but, hello? Did he back out? Heck no! He still shows that he is able to fight fair and square and with much strength. And on this fight, Keith may be young but boxing is not about age. It's abour your ability to hit and punch very well. And I think Manny still have that capabilities. My bet is, obviously, on Manny. Filipino pride! 
But just like what Thurman says ,this fight will likely the Oscar delajoya and Manny Pacquiao when Manny overruns the older Delajoya that time

Yeah maybe Pacquiao is in condition and still in good shape but he’s not that fast and strong like when he was in his 20-30’s ,now that he is in 40’s things have change a lot now and this is must be accept by all of us Manny’s fans worldwide

In Manny last 3 fights, All those are 3 young boxers but they all failed to dominate the people's champ. The only thing is missing for Manny was his Knock out power since he fight's with caution right now unlike his younger days where he fights to the death and chasing his enemies to the end of the ring. But now its different since one mistake could end his life instantly.
Manny Pacquiao started from 108lbs in which he is fast and punch hard but as he go up in weight opponents are bigger and Manny's movement slows a bit that is why i think seldom we can see him knockout opponents in the Welter division and also he is cautious now after that Marquez knockout.
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May 23, 2019, 05:14:40 AM
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I've checked both fighters last two fights and it seems Pacquiao has a big edge, Thurman last two fights cannot be considered his best fights, almost lose to Garcia where he wins by split decision, on Lopez fights he has a poor showing, on Pacquiao's two fights he is very impressive especially his fight against Broner, so I'll go for Pacquiao.

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May 23, 2019, 07:34:40 AM
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I've checked both fighters last two fights and it seems Pacquiao has a big edge, Thurman last two fights cannot be considered his best fights, almost lose to Garcia where he wins by split decision, on Lopez fights he has a poor showing, on Pacquiao's two fights he is very impressive especially his fight against Broner, so I'll go for Pacquiao.
I like the way you observed it, Manny still have the speed even the killer instinct is no longer that high but the eagerness to win can still be seen
to his eyes, with the high compassions and full blast coming to this fight, he's still have ha higher chance to win it over.

Age might be the gap but also can be the deciding factors, as this two fighters will show how they can compensate with this edge.
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May 23, 2019, 11:09:00 PM
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Looking at Nitrogensports and checked the odds, it looks like the fighting pride of the Philippines Senator Manny Pacquiao is the underdog. The odds are +115 for Manny Pacquiao and -135 for Keith Thurman. If the fight will go until the last round, I think Senator Manny Pacquiao will win. Senator Manny Pacquiaos speed is something that Keith Thurman needs to overcome.
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May 23, 2019, 11:19:15 PM
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Looking at Nitrogensports and checked the odds, it looks like the fighting pride of the Philippines Senator Manny Pacquiao is the underdog. The odds are +115 for Manny Pacquiao and -135 for Keith Thurman.

Wow!, haven't check the odds yet but I'm surprise that pacman is the underdog in this fight, well I think this makes it more interesting as it's rare that pacman will be an underdog of the fight, honestly, I underestimated his opponent but not most people sees the way I do.
I like that betting odds, I'll be backing PACMAC to win.

If the fight will go until the last round, I think Senator Manny Pacquiao will win. Senator Manny Pacquiaos speed is something that Keith Thurman needs to overcome.

Would be nice if it will not go to distance and Manny will just knock Thurman out.

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May 23, 2019, 11:35:11 PM
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People really know when the fight starts in Vegas they know who will gonna win because that's how it is. I am quite surprised that Pacman was the underdog in this fight. lol But seriously, I'll be watching the whole game if there is a fair tally of all the punches that they made each other. I'm sure people can't do anything when the judges reveal the scores that are quite different from them. lol

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May 23, 2019, 11:35:37 PM
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Looking at Nitrogensports and checked the odds, it looks like the fighting pride of the Philippines Senator Manny Pacquiao is the underdog. The odds are +115 for Manny Pacquiao and -135 for Keith Thurman. If the fight will go until the last round, I think Senator Manny Pacquiao will win. Senator Manny Pacquiaos speed is something that Keith Thurman needs to overcome.
Agreed.Senator Manny Pacquiao has his own undefeated speed that will make his opponents lose in the game.Even if he will fight against a young and good boxer,i think he can still prove that his age is not a hindrance that he will still win from this battle.I salute Manny's focus and determination to win in the game not just for money but he has really good passion in boxing.

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May 23, 2019, 11:39:54 PM
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People really know when the fight starts in Vegas they know who will gonna win because that's how it is. I am quite surprised that Pacman was the underdog in this fight. lol But seriously, I'll be watching the whole game if there is a fair tally of all the punches that they made each other. I'm sure people can't do anything when the judges reveal the scores that are quite different from them. lol

And yet another young vs. old. But I am rooting for Pacquiao though. I hope he will prove again to the world that he still have the power on this sports. But then again, he should retire from this industry soon. He has nothing to prove anymore. He's living a good life on his own. What is it in him that he keeps on accepting challenges and fights?
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May 24, 2019, 02:29:40 AM
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Yeah maybe Pacquiao is in condition and still in good shape but he’s not that fast and strong like when he was in his 20-30’s ,now that he is in 40’s things have change a lot now and this is must be accept by all of us Manny’s fans worldwide

What do you expect obviously from 20-30 to 40s? lol.

Manny's fans around the world already knows that. Others even take that as his disadvantage since Jeff Horn match but look what happened especially with the follow-up matches?

Now with Truman, expect the same statement will rise again.

Even with Pacquiao's age, we can still say that he's fast. However, it can be noticed that he may not have the same power as before since we don't see knock outs in his recent fights. Some of his wins

Pacman is the underdog in this fight which makes things different as compared to Thurman's undefeated record but Thurman may have a disadvantage because he had an elbow surgery last 2017. He took a break from boxing to recover and he says that it won't affect him but has only recently returned to the boxing ring after nearly two years of rest. The odds between the two will make their fight exciting to see.
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May 24, 2019, 02:42:20 AM
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Looking at Nitrogensports and checked the odds, it looks like the fighting pride of the Philippines Senator Manny Pacquiao is the underdog. The odds are +115 for Manny Pacquiao and -135 for Keith Thurman. If the fight will go until the last round, I think Senator Manny Pacquiao will win. Senator Manny Pacquiaos speed is something that Keith Thurman needs to overcome.

Yep, Manny seems to be the underdog in this fight. But this is good for the bettors though, I mean we all know that Manny can still fight at high level boxing even at his age, so I'm expecting that Manny will come strong early here to not give Thurman some confidence.

The speed is still there for Manny and I think with his experience, he can still win this fight in TKO/KO.
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May 24, 2019, 03:29:05 AM
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Yeah maybe Pacquiao is in condition and still in good shape but he’s not that fast and strong like when he was in his 20-30’s ,now that he is in 40’s things have change a lot now and this is must be accept by all of us Manny’s fans worldwide

What do you expect obviously from 20-30 to 40s? lol.

Manny's fans around the world already knows that. Others even take that as his disadvantage since Jeff Horn match but look what happened especially with the follow-up matches?

Now with Truman, expect the same statement will rise again.

Even with Pacquiao's age, we can still say that he's fast. However, it can be noticed that he may not have the same power as before since we don't see knock outs in his recent fights. Some of his wins

Pacman is the underdog in this fight which makes things different as compared to Thurman's undefeated record but Thurman may have a disadvantage because he had an elbow surgery last 2017. He took a break from boxing to recover and he says that it won't affect him but has only recently returned to the boxing ring after nearly two years of rest. The odds between the two will make their fight exciting to see.
Actually when Pacman move up in weight classes, he has difficulty knocking people out because obviously he's been facing big opponents. Thurman had a fight with Lopez early this year after that injury and he was not the same Thurman. Maybe that injury has really affected him. But this is a big test for him because he is the odd favorites and not Pacman.









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May 24, 2019, 03:58:44 AM
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People really know when the fight starts in Vegas they know who will gonna win because that's how it is. I am quite surprised that Pacman was the underdog in this fight. lol But seriously, I'll be watching the whole game if there is a fair tally of all the punches that they made each other. I'm sure people can't do anything when the judges reveal the scores that are quite different from them. lol
Why? I do not even know Keith Thurman. Anyway, I do think that Manny Pacman is underdog here because in every game he played he always won. Seeing him still has the physical abilities to fight then there is no reason that he can't manage to bring again the beacon. It would still Manny will going to win in this bout. I can bet if there are Keith Thurman out there without any conditions and a bet should only be simple whoever announces to be the winner of the bout will be the winner also of the bet except if it will be a draw.
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May 24, 2019, 04:28:17 AM
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I've checked both fighters last two fights and it seems Pacquiao has a big edge, Thurman last two fights cannot be considered his best fights, almost lose to Garcia where he wins by split decision, on Lopez fights he has a poor showing, on Pacquiao's two fights he is very impressive especially his fight against Broner, so I'll go for Pacquiao.
Well everything will be finalized when the game is over so what can I add now is the support for the Fighting senator,and the future president of the Philippines 🇵🇭

As a Fan of Manny Pacquiao champion is not just about winning but it’s on how you fight for ,fairness and giving all the best ..Goodluck Manny you are still the Hero of every Filipino
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@harizen. I would like to witness Manny become a president and fight Floyd Mayweather. That might also be the only temptation for Floyd to fight Manny again. If he is a president! That would break all time high boxing pay per view records hehehehe.

@Jating. He might only win this by a decision. The speed is there, however the knees are not.

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May 24, 2019, 08:38:24 AM
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@harizen. I would like to witness Manny become a president and fight Floyd Mayweather. That might also be the only temptation for Floyd to fight Manny again. If he is a president! That would break all time high boxing pay per view records hehehehe.

The Current president of the Philippines will end his term on June 30, 2022, so that would be 3 years from now if my computation is correct.
Manny is currently 40 years old, so we are seeing a 43 years old boxer fighting Mayweather, that would be epic if he can still fight at that time.

This scenario is only possible if Manny will run for president and win.


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May 24, 2019, 06:19:33 PM
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Talk about hyping the fight.

Thurman: My Time Now, I'll End Pacquiao Like He Did De La Hoya

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WBA welterweight champion Keith Thurman has a lot of respect for Manny Pacquiao, who captures titles in a record eight weight divisions.

But he still expects to end the career of the Filipino superstar on July 20th.

"I'm going to do to Manny Pacquiao what Manny Pacquiao did to Oscar de La Hoya. Manny Pacquiao was Oscar De La Hoya's last fight and Keith Thurman may be Manny Pacquiao's last fight come July 20," Thurman told Business Insider.

"Props to him and his beautiful legacy, but he will fall short. I always look forward to dismantling my opponents, destroying them, and showcasing my skills and talent each and every time I am in the ring. And I want to give Manny a proper farewell from the sport of boxing."

Is Thurman the one who's going to end the run of Pacquiao?

I don't think so, during that time Oscar Dela Hoya can't pull the trigger anymore, as he aged overnight. As compare to Manny who is very active and fighting on his comfortable weight class. Talk all the smack Keith, but Manny will be in your face from round 1.  Grin

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May 24, 2019, 07:02:47 PM
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Talk about hyping the fight.

Thurman: My Time Now, I'll End Pacquiao Like He Did De La Hoya

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WBA welterweight champion Keith Thurman has a lot of respect for Manny Pacquiao, who captures titles in a record eight weight divisions.

But he still expects to end the career of the Filipino superstar on July 20th.

"I'm going to do to Manny Pacquiao what Manny Pacquiao did to Oscar de La Hoya. Manny Pacquiao was Oscar De La Hoya's last fight and Keith Thurman may be Manny Pacquiao's last fight come July 20," Thurman told Business Insider.

"Props to him and his beautiful legacy, but he will fall short. I always look forward to dismantling my opponents, destroying them, and showcasing my skills and talent each and every time I am in the ring. And I want to give Manny a proper farewell from the sport of boxing."

Is Thurman the one who's going to end the run of Pacquiao?

I don't think so, during that time Oscar Dela Hoya can't pull the trigger anymore, as he aged overnight. As compare to Manny who is very active and fighting on his comfortable weight class. Talk all the smack Keith, but Manny will be in your face from round 1.  Grin
That's way too confident on saying up those words but well he do have that skills and fighting power but he must be sure to took down
Pacquiao and if he's the one who would be knockout then it would really be a shameful thing for him.Overconfidence might just went wrong later on.  Grin
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May 24, 2019, 09:02:36 PM
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Dont know why people do say that Thurman is dangerous one.Getting the records of him https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith_Thurman



Still unbeatable with high percentage of knockout.A worthy opponent but experience would be always a great factor.

The reason why people said Keith Thurman is dangerous is because of the power of his punch and he's a kind of boxers that usually go for hardest opponent which also seems to be undefeated and he end up as winner. I believe this is was also the reason why he went for Pacman but if he don't defeat PAC within round5 he might end loosing the fight.

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