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Author Topic: Manny Pacquiao vs Keith Thurman on July 20  (Read 16283 times)
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June 25, 2019, 04:08:37 PM
Last edit: June 27, 2019, 03:50:29 AM by posi
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So odds for Thurman has crossed 190 per 100... These are exceptionally good odds, if you want to make a bet in favor of him. One month back, the odds were close to 150 per 100 and it has increased by 40 in a matter of few weeks. I am curious to see whether the odds for Thurman will break the 200 level. Anyway, 190 is good enough for me to make a bet.

Pacman odds is also down, people should bet early to get over 2.00 odds.
The last time I check with Nitrogen, the odds was 2.1 for Pacman, but now has drop below, this only tells that's a fair fight and it's gonna a fun fight to watch.

Obviously these betting sites will be getting news and information from closed circles and based on that they may change the odds periodically. As of now, the odds are around 190 for Thurman and 210 for Manny. I never expected it to get so close. And there is some interesting news that came out today. Amir Khan has agreed to fight Manny, and the tentative date is 9th November 2019.
Another challenging fight for Manny since Amir also have a good name from this game but that's still far and this coming event is more important, Manny needs to play hard to win against this young Thurman, speed will be the focus knowing that Thurman is more younger than him he should condition his stamina to stay with him and to keep the fight running till the last round of possible.
You're right cause Manny need a lot of stamina to fight against Thurman but Thurman will be the winner of the fight cause he's still younger than Manny and also has the strongest punches this is why a lot of bookies was in his favor. Besides, punches were also the reason why Anthony losses his previous fight with Ruiz. Therefore, Manny need to improve his move aswell if hes going to win the fight.

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June 25, 2019, 09:04:52 PM
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It will really trigger out something if someone do trashtalk.If you are an eight division world champion and someone do talk about your retirement
then you would normally be pissed and its just right for Manny to react on that way even myself would really be triggered on that one.Thurman should be
prepared on how to block those powerful and fast punches.lol
On the start of the promotion, Thurman is trash talking but why is it now that he is quite? Manny's response to his trash talk is that Manny will do the talking on the ring. This is an article stating that Thurman is overweight at the moment so it might be the reason why he is quite, training hard to make the weight come fight time.
We are quite get used to when it comes to trashtalking but for some players where these words aren't really an easy way to be accepted.
All things would be settled on the ring and we would able to see on what Thurman is capable of.If he's overweight then reducing wont really be that easy
and also performance might be affected as well.

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June 25, 2019, 09:17:30 PM
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Another challenging fight for Manny since Amir also have a good name from this game but that's still far and this coming event is more important, Manny needs to play hard to win against this young Thurman, speed will be the focus knowing that Thurman is more younger than him he should condition his stamina to stay with him and to keep the fight running till the last round of possible.

The Thurman fight is going to be extremely challenging for Manny, since his opponent is at his peak. On the other hand, Amir Khan is a shadow of his former self. He lost to Terence Crawford last month, and his performance was rated below par by most of the experts. Next month he is having a fight against Neeraj Goyat. I am not sure about the outcome of that fight (vs Neeraj), but for sure Manny will be the favorite to win against Khan if this fight happens. 
The last time I checked Amir Khan fight against Manny will happen November 6 and I think it too early for us to discuss or make any prediction now for Khan seems to be waiting for such clash between himself and Manny. Therefore, rating Khan rating due to his previous fight won't provide the right prediction.

Nah, Amir Khan should wait for the outcome of the fight. But he said he wish Manny should win so that they could set up the fight. However, I think Amir should just concentrate on Kell Brook, it will bring more money as those two are local 'enemies'. Just like Marco Antonio Barrera and Erik Morales. But I don't know who is stalling the fight though.

Anyways, Amir Khan is already on the down spiral of his career and I doubt that Manny will give him a chance, he is more shot that Manny and it could be a mismatch, just saying.

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June 25, 2019, 10:25:40 PM
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Another challenging fight for Manny since Amir also have a good name from this game but that's still far and this coming event is more important, Manny needs to play hard to win against this young Thurman, speed will be the focus knowing that Thurman is more younger than him he should condition his stamina to stay with him and to keep the fight running till the last round of possible.

The Thurman fight is going to be extremely challenging for Manny, since his opponent is at his peak. On the other hand, Amir Khan is a shadow of his former self. He lost to Terence Crawford last month, and his performance was rated below par by most of the experts. Next month he is having a fight against Neeraj Goyat. I am not sure about the outcome of that fight (vs Neeraj), but for sure Manny will be the favorite to win against Khan if this fight happens. 
The last time I checked Amir Khan fight against Manny will happen November 6 and I think it too early for us to discuss or make any prediction now for Khan seems to be waiting for such clash between himself and Manny. Therefore, rating Khan rating due to his previous fight won't provide the right prediction.

Nah, Amir Khan should wait for the outcome of the fight. But he said he wish Manny should win so that they could set up the fight. However, I think Amir should just concentrate on Kell Brook, it will bring more money as those two are local 'enemies'. Just like Marco Antonio Barrera and Erik Morales. But I don't know who is stalling the fight though.

Anyways, Amir Khan is already on the down spiral of his career and I doubt that Manny will give him a chance, he is more shot that Manny and it could be a mismatch, just saying.
Khan is already a wash up fighter, he just want to fight Manny to have a big paycheck prior to him retiring. Manny is immune to this trash talk, maybe what's get his ire is the way Manny Thurman disrespect him legacy specially about 'retiring him'. Anyways, has anyone got some update on the said injury of Pacman?
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June 26, 2019, 10:41:34 PM
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Odds update on sportsbet.io for this fight:

Last May 28, 2019 was
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Manny Pacquiao: 2.06
Kieth Thurman: 1.68
sportsbet.io odds.
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Odds now on sportsbet.io:


The changes were huge, any idea why this happened?
The last time I am still waiting to let Manny Pacquiao odds grow more, but now it's 0.02 odds only the lead of Keith Thurman.

Any negative news or event happened about Keith Thurman? Would appreciate it if you can share it.

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June 26, 2019, 10:49:37 PM
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The last time I checked Amir Khan fight against Manny will happen November 6 and I think it too early for us to discuss or make any prediction now for Khan seems to be waiting for such clash between himself and Manny. Therefore, rating Khan rating due to his previous fight won't provide the right prediction.

Nah, Amir Khan should wait for the outcome of the fight. But he said he wish Manny should win so that they could set up the fight. However, I think Amir should just concentrate on Kell Brook, it will bring more money as those two are local 'enemies'. Just like Marco Antonio Barrera and Erik Morales. But I don't know who is stalling the fight though.

Anyways, Amir Khan is already on the down spiral of his career and I doubt that Manny will give him a chance, he is more shot that Manny and it could be a mismatch, just saying.
Khan is already a wash up fighter, he just want to fight Manny to have a big paycheck prior to him retiring. Manny is immune to this trash talk, maybe what's get his ire is the way Manny Thurman disrespect him legacy specially about 'retiring him'. Anyways, has anyone got some update on the said injury of Pacman?

The bottomline of most fights is the paycheck that they will get after the fight, win or lose, many are still wishing to have a match with Pacquiao. He is considered to be one of the boxing legends already and he has still the power to fight. The trash talking of Thurman might be one way to promote their fight. We don't know his real intentions but he's getting the attention that he wants.

Odds update on sportsbet.io for this fight:

Last May 28, 2019 was
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Manny Pacquiao: 2.06
Kieth Thurman: 1.68
sportsbet.io odds.
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Odds now on sportsbet.io:


The changes were huge, any idea why this happened?
The last time I am still waiting to let Manny Pacquiao odds grow more, but now it's 0.02 odds only the lead of Keith Thurman.

Any negative news or event happened about Keith Thurman? Would appreciate it if you can share it.

Very slim gap between the two fighters. This might turn to be an interesting fight in the boxing this year.
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June 26, 2019, 10:53:40 PM
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The changes were huge, any idea why this happened?
The last time I am still waiting to let Manny Pacquiao odds grow more, but now it's 0.02 odds only the lead of Keith Thurman.

Any negative news or event happened about Keith Thurman? Would appreciate it if you can share it.
I don't have any news to share but IMHO this is because of the influx bets for Manny and that made the odds change from time to time. The more people that will bet for Manny, odds are likely to change more.

There's still enough time to see what will be the final odds so the odds right now are likely to change again if there will be more bets for each other.

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June 26, 2019, 10:55:15 PM
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Odds update on sportsbet.io for this fight:

Last May 28, 2019 was
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Manny Pacquiao: 2.06
Kieth Thurman: 1.68
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Odds now on sportsbet.io:


The changes were huge, any idea why this happened?
The last time I am still waiting to let Manny Pacquiao odds grow more, but now it's 0.02 odds only the lead of Keith Thurman.

Any negative news or event happened about Keith Thurman? Would appreciate it if you can share it.
I'm not really sure though mate, my thoughts is that maybe the oddmakers really see something in Pacman, specially the way he said that he feels disrespect by Thurman's word and then there are lot of video's of Pacman surfacing him training like his old self, in a beast mode. So I think that is enough to sway some odds now.
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June 26, 2019, 11:08:06 PM
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The changes were huge, any idea why this happened?
The last time I am still waiting to let Manny Pacquiao odds grow more, but now it's 0.02 odds only the lead of Keith Thurman.

Any negative news or event happened about Keith Thurman? Would appreciate it if you can share it.
I don't have any news to share but IMHO this is because of the influx bets for Manny and that made the odds change from time to time. The more people that will bet for Manny, odds are likely to change more.

There's still enough time to see what will be the final odds so the odds right now are likely to change again if there will be more bets for each other.

Right, maybe Chavit put a big bet on Manny again that's why the odds have change a bit.  Grin. Or those who are making the odds is now convinced that Manny Pacquiao chance to win has greater because he is on a good shape and has something to proved to his fans and critics alike. I like the it though, it will make Thurman and his trainers be wary about Manny now. We still have 4 weeks to go, so there might be swings in the odds in favor of Manny and I'm not surprise if he will be the favorite as we get closer to the fight.

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June 26, 2019, 11:10:09 PM
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Odds update on sportsbet.io for this fight:

Last May 28, 2019 was
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Manny Pacquiao: 2.06
Kieth Thurman: 1.68
sportsbet.io odds.
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Odds now on sportsbet.io:


The changes were huge, any idea why this happened?
The last time I am still waiting to let Manny Pacquiao odds grow more, but now it's 0.02 odds only the lead of Keith Thurman.

Any negative news or event happened about Keith Thurman? Would appreciate it if you can share it.
It seems like people are starting to realize that Manny Pacquiao is not that an easy opponent of Keith Thurman. If the odds would still change or flip to the other side then i don't what Pacquiao did to make the people switch their bets. Cheesy

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June 27, 2019, 12:50:11 AM
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The changes were huge, any idea why this happened?
The last time I am still waiting to let Manny Pacquiao odds grow more, but now it's 0.02 odds only the lead of Keith Thurman.

Any negative news or event happened about Keith Thurman? Would appreciate it if you can share it.
I don't have any news to share but IMHO this is because of the influx bets for Manny and that made the odds change from time to time. The more people that will bet for Manny, odds are likely to change more.

There's still enough time to see what will be the final odds so the odds right now are likely to change again if there will be more bets for each other.

Right, maybe Chavit put a big bet on Manny again that's why the odds have change a bit.  Grin. Or those who are making the odds is now convinced that Manny Pacquiao chance to win has greater because he is on a good shape and has something to proved to his fans and critics alike. I like the it though, it will make Thurman and his trainers be wary about Manny now. We still have 4 weeks to go, so there might be swings in the odds in favor of Manny and I'm not surprise if he will be the favorite as we get closer to the fight.
It could be possible that Chavit had already put his money on Pacquiao, we all know that he can afford anything he wants money wise. Just like what i have predicted that the odds will change weeks away from the fight.
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June 27, 2019, 01:07:30 AM
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This was what I was currently talking about. In the opening statement of the fight. Thurman immediately  gets -40.

But now according to
https://mybookie.ag/sportsbook/boxing/

Thurman now only have 115 over pacman having 105.


And according to forbes.com
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/peterkahn/2019/06/26/manny-pacquiao-vs-keith-thurman-what-the-recent-change-in-odds-tells-us/amp/

60% of the current bets are now from the Philippines. It only means that this might possible closes the gap even more. There this can really be a very close match probably very entertaining as well
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June 27, 2019, 01:19:27 AM
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June 27, 2019, 01:23:47 AM
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This was what I was currently talking about. In the opening statement of the fight. Thurman immediately  gets -40.

But now according to
https://mybookie.ag/sportsbook/boxing/

Thurman now only have 115 over pacman having 105.


And according to forbes.com
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/peterkahn/2019/06/26/manny-pacquiao-vs-keith-thurman-what-the-recent-change-in-odds-tells-us/amp/

60% of the current bets are now from the Philippines. It only means that this might possible closes the gap even more. There this can really be a very close match probably very entertaining as well
There are so many big bettors coming from the Philippines and of course we know who will get that bet. This will be a good fight of course, maybe not just about the money but hopefully we can get what we want. I'm placing my bet on those on top right, Manny really gets ahead but it always changes as we get closer to the date of the fight.
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June 27, 2019, 02:06:02 AM
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So at least in some of the betting sites, Manny has emerged as a favorite ahead of Thurman. This makes no sense. Too many people from the Philippines are betting on Pacquiao and this is distorting the odds. I would have been happy with slightly favorable odds for Thurman, but this has gone too far. The betting sites are not going to complain about it. They stand to gain a lot of profit either way.
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June 27, 2019, 02:17:02 AM
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That's the kind of support Manny is getting from the Philippines,60% meaning most of the best, but I'd love to know if they have at least a figure so we can determine how much money are flowing so far?

I am currently looking on the Data that you've requested. Unfortunately I wasn't able to find one but I think forbes can still be a good reliable source so we will just consider it as is for the time being. Hopefully we can get more insights on the sportsbook that was mentioned
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June 27, 2019, 03:44:03 AM
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That's the kind of support Manny is getting from the Philippines,60% meaning most of the best, but I'd love to know if they have at least a figure so we can determine how much money are flowing so far?

I am currently looking on the Data that you've requested. Unfortunately I wasn't able to find one but I think forbes can still be a good reliable source so we will just consider it as is for the time being. Hopefully we can get more insights on the sportsbook that was mentioned

@Botnake, it normal for Manny to have such percent of support from the Philippines cause he's your senator and the leading fighter who represent Philippine. But, unfortunately there's chance that Thurman might end his career if Manny is not well prepared because Thurman seems determined for betting $10K for winning the fight on KO.

Concern the cash that has flow in, no one know for now but I'm sure Manny will make a minimum of $20 million from the fight.


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June 27, 2019, 05:34:20 AM
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That's the kind of support Manny is getting from the Philippines,60% meaning most of the best, but I'd love to know if they have at least a figure so we can determine how much money are flowing so far?

I am currently looking on the Data that you've requested. Unfortunately I wasn't able to find one but I think forbes can still be a good reliable source so we will just consider it as is for the time being. Hopefully we can get more insights on the sportsbook that was mentioned

@Botnake, it normal for Manny to have such percent of support from the Philippines cause he's your senator and the leading fighter who represent Philippine. But, unfortunately there's chance that Thurman might end his career if Manny is not well prepared because Thurman seems determined for betting $10K for winning the fight on KO.

Concern the cash that has flow in, no one know for now but I'm sure Manny will make a minimum of $20 million from the fight.



I'm just curious what would be the multiplier for that bet, I'm sure that is not a 50/50 payout.
I like to counter his bet, Manny beating him in 3 rounds by KO, though less likely to happen but if the odds are really good then I guess it's worth a try.
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June 27, 2019, 07:50:20 AM
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~snip~

That's the kind of support Manny is getting from the Philippines,60% meaning most of the best, but I'd love to know if they have at least a figure so we can determine how much money are flowing so far?

Wow, that's a huge swing in favour of Manny Pacquiao. But we all know that Filipinos will always bet on Manny no matter what the odds are.

And if you are wondering if there are whales as far as boxing, out name pop out as well, Mr. Chavit Singson has someone as pointed out. This guy has tons of money, and a close confidante of Manny, so I'm sure the bulk of 60% is coming from one man only.

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June 27, 2019, 09:17:16 AM
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~snip~

That's the kind of support Manny is getting from the Philippines,60% meaning most of the best, but I'd love to know if they have at least a figure so we can determine how much money are flowing so far?

Wow, that's a huge swing in favour of Manny Pacquiao. But we all know that Filipinos will always bet on Manny no matter what the odds are.

And if you are wondering if there are whales as far as boxing, out name pop out as well, Mr. Chavit Singson has someone as pointed out. This guy has tons of money, and a close confidante of Manny, so I'm sure the bulk of 60% is coming from one man only.
But this is one of the best odds for Manny so far that I think he has a chance of winning.
The fight against Mayweather did not end a close fight, it was a unanimous decision and most would agree that Mayweather clearly won the fight, but this Thurman is not Mayweather, although he is undefeated but not as fast and smart as Mayweather, so probably we will see a good fight with a knockout probability in this fight.

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