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July 05, 2019, 05:58:31 AM
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I'll place a small bet on Thurman. I like underdogs Grin.

He just became an underdog recently lol

Thurman should not be an underdog, he is a legitimate opponent of Pacman, it's the people's decision that we are seeing now that resulted to the drop of betting odds for Thurman. This is good for Thurman believers as they can get a good odds, and lucky those who bet on Pacman in the early as the odds was also over 2.00.
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July 05, 2019, 07:10:02 AM
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I'll place a small bet on Thurman. I like underdogs Grin.

He just became an underdog recently lol

Thurman should not be an underdog, he is a legitimate opponent of Pacman, it's the people's decision that we are seeing now that resulted to the drop of betting odds for Thurman. This is good for Thurman believers as they can get a good odds, and lucky those who bet on Pacman in the early as the odds was also over 2.00.
I agree Thurman shouldn't be an underdog and as per review on his career he's not that kind of casual boxer. Being underdog was a wrong tag for him for those people considering him lower bet on this fight. However we don't really opened our eyes yet, but the date is a day so expect an intense fight for the two of them. Thurman should observe pacman's foot work, because that's very important during the live fight.

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July 05, 2019, 07:41:04 AM
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all that happens before the fight, nothing more than a muscle game to the public.  Each of us understands that it is What events have a good influence on gambling people who quickly take to bookmakers.
Boxing is business and they will do all to make profit out of the fight so we can expect this kind of things before the fight but at the end of the fight, expect those two fighters to hug and congratulate each other for a good fight then starting to talk about rematch, lol.

The thing about Freddie talking about Thurman being slow is a thing that a trainer or boxer could see and exploit and it's up to the bettors to believe and put his money on the right fighter.
But what Freddie says was true,watching Thurman fight is much slower than how Manny moves in the ring and that comparison is indeed
But you’re right that this is business and all the promoter will do just to make high profit whatever it cause them,so fighter is just like a material from them that only there to generate income and nothing at all
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July 05, 2019, 08:22:44 AM
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I will be waiting for a play for the OVER on this match weather it is 9.5, 10.5 or 11.5 I havent yet to see.
Both the American and the Filipino warriors can take shots and I think that THURMAN will be much bigger then PAC when they enter the ring on fight night.
If he is able to bully MP around he can win a UD or maybe a late stoppage but I think it goes OVER.
Manny has fought bigger fighter in the past and used his advantage which is the speed very well. If Thurman decide to came big come fight time, the slower than Heinz ketchup which Roach stated is very evident. He should at least match the speed of Manny if he want to win this fight. Remember Brandon Rios, which cried after the fight because he can't even touch Manny  Grin.

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July 05, 2019, 09:25:09 AM
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I will be waiting for a play for the OVER on this match weather it is 9.5, 10.5 or 11.5 I havent yet to see.
Both the American and the Filipino warriors can take shots and I think that THURMAN will be much bigger then PAC when they enter the ring on fight night.
If he is able to bully MP around he can win a UD or maybe a late stoppage but I think it goes OVER.
Manny has fought bigger fighter in the past and used his advantage which is the speed very well. If Thurman decide to came big come fight time, the slower than Heinz ketchup which Roach stated is very evident. He should at least match the speed of Manny if he want to win this fight. Remember Brandon Rios, which cried after the fight because he can't even touch Manny  Grin.
That's a sad reality for the pacman's opponent that he beaten up.
It's not about the size and the power anymore, as even Manny does not have the size but his speed and power is good enough to knock down or stop an opponent. He has done this many times before, he would not be an 8 division champ for nothing, his power should be respected.

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July 05, 2019, 10:43:13 AM
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It's not a trash talk but it's a counter statement. Remember who started talking like that? it's Thurman and that pissed Manny and coach Freddie Roach is just countering his statement and giving his opinion. Nothing wrong with that but yeah, sure it's meaningful and funny at the same time.

Did Thurman replied to those words already?

They’ve just playing and trading trashtalks to gain a lot of popularity. It’s definitely for their fight to hoard lot of viewers and to sold out early. In boxing it really needs hype before the fight starts because huge money is involved here. But yeah, manny pacquaio quite knows a lot in the boxing world so their fight would be interesting and fun to watch.
It can be like that but there's an intense feeling coming from the people's champ and sure it has brought a lot of attention. Does anyone knows if the tickets on MGM is already sold out?

It looks like it generating a lot of buzz as we get closer to the fight. Manny won't let his fans down specially with that big mouth, trash talking Thurman.
The emotion is there and it's kind of bringing the hype to the match but the intensity can be felt through Manny's reaction and coach Freddie Roach's opinion.

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July 05, 2019, 10:50:30 AM
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I will be waiting for a play for the OVER on this match weather it is 9.5, 10.5 or 11.5 I havent yet to see.
Both the American and the Filipino warriors can take shots and I think that THURMAN will be much bigger then PAC when they enter the ring on fight night.
If he is able to bully MP around he can win a UD or maybe a late stoppage but I think it goes OVER.
Manny has fought bigger fighter in the past and used his advantage which is the speed very well. If Thurman decide to came big come fight time, the slower than Heinz ketchup which Roach stated is very evident. He should at least match the speed of Manny if he want to win this fight. Remember Brandon Rios, which cried after the fight because he can't even touch Manny  Grin.
Lol, at that ketchup comment by Roach. But remember when Pacman was fighting bigger guys, his still at his prime. Thurman doesn't have the hand speed though, maybe he could go at some point toe to toe with Pacman, but I think Pacman is wise enough and will just take his sweet spot to hit Thurman, just like what he did to Brandon Rios.









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July 05, 2019, 10:59:29 AM
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I will be waiting for a play for the OVER on this match weather it is 9.5, 10.5 or 11.5 I havent yet to see.
Both the American and the Filipino warriors can take shots and I think that THURMAN will be much bigger then PAC when they enter the ring on fight night.
If he is able to bully MP around he can win a UD or maybe a late stoppage but I think it goes OVER.
Manny has fought bigger fighter in the past and used his advantage which is the speed very well. If Thurman decide to came big come fight time, the slower than Heinz ketchup which Roach stated is very evident. He should at least match the speed of Manny if he want to win this fight. Remember Brandon Rios, which cried after the fight because he can't even touch Manny  Grin.
Lol, at that ketchup comment by Roach. But remember when Pacman was fighting bigger guys, his still at his prime. Thurman doesn't have the hand speed though, maybe he could go at some point toe to toe with Pacman, but I think Pacman is wise enough and will just take his sweet spot to hit Thurman, just like what he did to Brandon Rios.

He's wise enough. With a lot of experience in his gloves, Manny Pacquiao, despite the age gap can win this match. He may not be in his prime anymore but he still the knowledge, the will to fight that is the reason he is still going. That is the reason why he is so mad at Thurman. Thurman said he wants to end Manny's career, and to Manny, that is a low blow. He's mad, he wants to win and he will, I guess this will be a knockout if Thurman did not step up at Rounds 1 to 4.

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July 05, 2019, 11:22:43 AM
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They’ve just playing and trading trashtalks to gain a lot of popularity. It’s definitely for their fight to hoard lot of viewers and to sold out early. In boxing it really needs hype before the fight starts because huge money is involved here. But yeah, manny pacquaio quite knows a lot in the boxing world so their fight would be interesting and fun to watch.
It can be like that but there's an intense feeling coming from the people's champ and sure it has brought a lot of attention. Does anyone knows if the tickets on MGM is already sold out?

Manny Pacquiao speed, power of punch, experienced and extreme training for a 40years old “Living Legend” A lot of videos in youtube uploaded how hard manny pacquiao training does have for a 40yo. A gift to us in the philippines that manny power have.

AFAIK there’s still left, tried it for PL5 $300.00 it count and asking for the payment.

Ticket Prices
  • PL1 $1500.00
  • PL2 $1000.00
  • PL3 $750.00
  • PL4 $500.00
  • PL5 $300.00
https://mgmgrand.mgmresorts.com/en/entertainment/pacquiao-vs-thurman.html

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July 05, 2019, 12:58:22 PM
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They’ve just playing and trading trashtalks to gain a lot of popularity. It’s definitely for their fight to hoard lot of viewers and to sold out early. In boxing it really needs hype before the fight starts because huge money is involved here. But yeah, manny pacquaio quite knows a lot in the boxing world so their fight would be interesting and fun to watch.
It can be like that but there's an intense feeling coming from the people's champ and sure it has brought a lot of attention. Does anyone knows if the tickets on MGM is already sold out?

Manny Pacquiao speed, power of punch, experienced and extreme training for a 40years old “Living Legend” A lot of videos in youtube uploaded how hard manny pacquiao training does have for a 40yo. A gift to us in the philippines that manny power have.

AFAIK there’s still left, tried it for PL5 $300.00 it count and asking for the payment.

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Thanks for the stats, I thought that its already sold out unlike his matches before, far from the scheduled dated the tickets were already sold out.

As for the age, well he is training much and working hard for each of the fight that he has. I'm amazed to the dedication that he is showing as recently I've seen a photo of him and Marquez. He has maintained his body well and now, Marquez has a big changed if someone here haven't seen that recent photo. Well, Manny is still doing well and age is just a number for him I guess.

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July 05, 2019, 02:22:59 PM
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It will be an exciting battle in the world of competition in 2019. KEITH THURMAN's ambition to defeat MANNY was seen at THE HILLS HOTEL at his press conference. But whatever the statement is, all the evidence is in the ring. MANNY can certainly handle it.  Grin Grin Grin

I'm expecting he'll handle Thurman easily as Thurman will have a hard time throwing the best punch to Pacman as Pacman is still fast.
The line changes is already a big evidence that despite of the age of Pacman, people still believes he can beat this younger opponent of his.
Most of the predictions favors pacman, even the celebrities in boxing who knows the sports better.
The last time I checked, you're not the judge for the fight and I wonder why you're sure that Thurman will have a hard time throwing his best punches to Pacman when his plan to tease Pacman around the ring for the better chances.


I'm just a fan that has put too much confident on Pacman, so I believe he will handle Thurman easily in this fight, if I'm wrong, then be it.  Tongue
There's nothing bad in been confident in a fighter you love but we mustn't ignore the fact boxing is just a sport cause the two fighters also put their body on the line and both fighters are still a winner until the final conclusion.



Dont be too excited because of Freddie Roach statement.

They hype pacman and I got hype, I have no problem with as I saw pacman prove us many times that he is a great fighter and can still dominate.
He can't be an 8 time division champion if he is no dominating, Thurman has still more to prove, so hopefully I'm wrong so you are right.
Yes, Thurman still has more to proof but he has proved a lot through his previous fight against huge numbers of opponents which are a big threat for him and this is the reason why he also chooses Pacman which is faster than him.



The last time I checked, you're not the judge for the fight and I wonder why you're sure that Thurman will have a hard time throwing his best punches to Pacman when his plan to tease Pacman around the ring for the better chances.
Dont be too excited because of Freddie Roach statement.
Freddie Roach knowledge about boxing is exceptional so if he says something, it has substance. I remember the time when he said that Oscar De la Hoya can't pull the trigger anymore, it's true and When he said that Thurman is slow, i just realize that it could be true and just put my money on the Pacman.
I can't argue anymore with that because he was his best coach before Pacman dump him because of not helping him when he got lost to Mayweather. But his statement is something that you might don't wanna mess because he knows what the other boxers weak spot and strong spot. At least he gave something before the fight happens, but let the fighters decide how they will gonna show what they've got in the ring.
I respect Roach for all his achievement and records but his statement definitely not going to make Pacman the winner of the fight but the boost his confidence and also some kind of speculation which will lead to more bucks for the fighters.
Speaking of the weak and strong spot, don't you know that Thurman trainer is also not a newbie in this game.


17 days left and we will know the winner between Manny Pacquaio and  Keth Thurman. Many bet will happen in the different country . I want to share when Manny have fight Metro Manila have no criminical case on the day during Manny's fight. Many Filipino are really love Manny and we support him even he lose or win but Im strongly Im sure he win this fight.
I've watched this fact on youtube and it's very interesting that the whole country spend their time of showing support to Manny through watching. And isn't it amazing that the crime rate goes to zero when he fights.

How he'd wish that he has fight everyday so that crime rates will go to zero but he's a human, needs to rest and needs to take time for himself.

The last time I checked, you're not the judge for the fight and I wonder why you're sure that Thurman will have a hard time throwing his best punches to Pacman when his plan to tease Pacman around the ring for the better chances.
Dont be too excited because of Freddie Roach statement.
Freddie Roach knowledge about boxing is exceptional so if he says something, it has substance. I remember the time when he said that Oscar De la Hoya can't pull the trigger anymore, it's true and When he said that Thurman is slow, i just realize that it could be true and just put my money on the Pacman.
I'm not updated with this statement coming from Roach but I guess, everyone will start changing their pick now from Thurman to Pacman.
I don't argue with you on this but if you look it closely the purpose of the statement made by Roach is to change peoples thought towards Pacman as the winner of the fight but it won't save Pacman from Thurman punches.


The last time I checked, you're not the judge for the fight and I wonder why you're sure that Thurman will have a hard time throwing his best punches to Pacman when his plan to tease Pacman around the ring for the better chances.
Dont be too excited because of Freddie Roach statement.
Freddie Roach knowledge about boxing is exceptional so if he says something, it has substance. I remember the time when he said that Oscar De la Hoya can't pull the trigger anymore, it's true and When he said that Thurman is slow, i just realize that it could be true and just put my money on the Pacman.
Speaking of Oscar De la Hoya he was the most popular fighter in his prime and he knows he's not fit to fight anymore but did face Pacman because of the money involved just like Pacman did when he faced Maywather.
meanwhile, Oscar De La Hoya switching his longtime trainer is enough to make Pacman defeat him then.

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July 05, 2019, 02:32:24 PM
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A few days back, there was an article in the Forbes explaining why the odds have become better for Manny Pacquiao. You can access the article for free here:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianmazique/2019/07/01/why-manny-pacquiao-has-surged-in-latest-odds-and-is-now-the-favorite-over-keith-thurman/

Many of the betting sites think that the fight will be very close and there is a realistic chance that Manny will be able to KO Keith Thurman. Meanwhile Freddie Roach (trainer of Manny) has guaranteed a knockout against Thurman.
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looking at the news today, a statement from Errol Spence jr., he said "I think Thurman will be sharper than his last fight. Thurman is more formidable than anyone expected," said Spence, quoted from the Boxing Scene on Thursday (07/04/2019 )

hopefully in a match, Pacman can prove that he is still worthy of being considered a world-class boxer.

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looking at the news today, a statement from Errol Spence jr., he said "I think Thurman will be sharper than his last fight. Thurman is more formidable than anyone expected," said Spence, quoted from the Boxing Scene on Thursday (07/04/2019 )

hopefully in a match, Pacman can prove that he is still worthy of being considered a world-class boxer.
I hope Thurman would because i saw his last fight and i don't think it stands a chance to knock Pacquiao as he was saying. A scorecard doesn't define their ability, it's the performance on the ring. Pacquiao still has the agility as what he was showing 15 years ago and power, Thurman may not match that agility of Pacman but he has a strong defensive strategy so both fighters have their own advantage and disadvantages.

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A few days back, there was an article in the Forbes explaining why the odds have become better for Manny Pacquiao. You can access the article for free here:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianmazique/2019/07/01/why-manny-pacquiao-has-surged-in-latest-odds-and-is-now-the-favorite-over-keith-thurman/

Many of the betting sites think that the fight will be very close and there is a realistic chance that Manny will be able to KO Keith Thurman. Meanwhile Freddie Roach (trainer of Manny) has guaranteed a knockout against Thurman.


Sometimes it is a hidden injury during training that insiders have heard of that causes a big adjustment in odds similar to this. I reckon this is strange if this was Manny's fans making big bets on him this early. It usually occurs 1 or 2 days before the fight.

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looking at the news today, a statement from Errol Spence jr., he said "I think Thurman will be sharper than his last fight. Thurman is more formidable than anyone expected," said Spence, quoted from the Boxing Scene on Thursday (07/04/2019 )

hopefully in a match, Pacman can prove that he is still worthy of being considered a world-class boxer.

That's just Spence Jr personal opinion. There are also a lot of boxers who also favour Manny so I guess it's just about even as well in the boxing world, (boxers, boxing analyst). I would agree with the article posted above that Manny really looks sharp in his training camp. He is really focus on this match and will surely go for the knock out if it present itself.

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July 06, 2019, 08:24:31 AM
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looking at the news today, a statement from Errol Spence jr., he said "I think Thurman will be sharper than his last fight. Thurman is more formidable than anyone expected," said Spence, quoted from the Boxing Scene on Thursday (07/04/2019 )

hopefully in a match, Pacman can prove that he is still worthy of being considered a world-class boxer.

That's just Spence Jr personal opinion. There are also a lot of boxers who also favour Manny so I guess it's just about even as well in the boxing world, (boxers, boxing analyst). I would agree with the article posted above that Manny really looks sharp in his training camp. He is really focus on this match and will surely go for the knock out if it present itself.
I'm not surprised, they are both American, of course you'll support the one represents your country. How about Roach said a guaranteed KO for Manny. It seems this fight will be different from Manny's previous fight. He is more prepared for this fight. That trashtalk and others doubt on his age and capability motivated him.
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looking at the news today, a statement from Errol Spence jr., he said "I think Thurman will be sharper than his last fight. Thurman is more formidable than anyone expected," said Spence, quoted from the Boxing Scene on Thursday (07/04/2019 )

hopefully in a match, Pacman can prove that he is still worthy of being considered a world-class boxer.

That's just Spence Jr personal opinion. There are also a lot of boxers who also favour Manny so I guess it's just about even as well in the boxing world, (boxers, boxing analyst). I would agree with the article posted above that Manny really looks sharp in his training camp. He is really focus on this match and will surely go for the knock out if it present itself.
I'm not surprised, they are both American, of course you'll support the one represents your country. How about Roach said a guaranteed KO for Manny. It seems this fight will be different from Manny's previous fight. He is more prepared for this fight. That trashtalk and others doubt on his age and capability motivated him.
That's why we love Freddie, Pacman doesn't open his mouth, but we love Freddie doing the trash talking. I don't know if Pacman can KO Thurman, but definitely, Pacman is on a mission right now. He seems to be energise and I won't be surprised if he can get the KO.









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That's why we love Freddie, Pacman doesn't open his mouth, but we love Freddie doing the trash talking. I don't know if Pacman can KO Thurman, but definitely, Pacman is on a mission right now. He seems to be energise and I won't be surprised if he can get the KO.

If Thurman can bring his trash talking in action, we might see a knock down and I hope it's gonna be Thurman.
A similar fight result of Pacman against Lucas Matthysse would be enough to make this game very entertaining, coming from the Pacman fan.  Grin

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That's why we love Freddie, Pacman doesn't open his mouth, but we love Freddie doing the trash talking. I don't know if Pacman can KO Thurman, but definitely, Pacman is on a mission right now. He seems to be energise and I won't be surprised if he can get the KO.

If Thurman can bring his trash talking in action, we might see a knock down and I hope it's gonna be Thurman.
A similar fight result of Pacman against Lucas Matthysse would be enough to make this game very entertaining, coming from the Pacman fan.  Grin

I know right?

I read a meme on Facebook about Thurman betting big money to knockout Manny in Round 3, Manny responded with Thank you for your donation. Never thought that this is true but this is the link about it. Manny is really funny and amazing.

https://news.abs-cbn.com/sports/06/29/19/pacquiao-on-keith-thurmans-10k-knockout-bet-thank-you-for-the-donation
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