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July 10, 2019, 01:38:30 PM
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If pacman sill win on this fight he might pursue fighting Spence which is also a hard to beat fighter. What are your thoughts?


I would really love that fight and I think Manny will be a sure underdog of this fight, this one is sure better than a rematch with Mayweather.

+ 1. Manny is gonna be a huge underdog to The Truth. As to Manny vs. Mayweather, well, boxing is sports entertainment. A Mayweather bout is not entertainment. It is dead boring.

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July 10, 2019, 02:07:20 PM
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Going back to Manny, I saw on local TV that he is training together with his son Jimuel.

So he is training his son to follow his foot step? I think that's a lot of pressure for the son as his father will soon become a hall of famer and a legend.

Good luck to him -  Grin

I initially thought that Manny Pacquiao doesn't want any of his son to follow in his footsteps, specially inside the boxing ring. So I'm surprised that he allowed his son to go side by side with him in his training regimen.

There could be a lot of pressures, just look at Chavez Jr, he did try to be like his father. In the beginning he was very successful, however, when they step up on opposition, they see the Chavez Jr doesn't have the skills that his father has. I'm not saying that Jimuel will not be great, but it's going to be difficult to follow what is father did to boxing. So let's see, and I'm sure many will follow this kid's career.


Yeah I heard that thought came from manny pacquiao he don't like one of his son to enter in boxing career, it might be people chamge and manny can't stop their son to follow their footprints in boxing. It surprise if jemuel  show at their father training it's can for the yung pacquiao to get more strategy how to become great boxer.
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July 10, 2019, 02:13:31 PM
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Well , I just want to consider some thoughts. Will Pacman be resigning after his fight with Thurman if he loses this one?.

I think no, but if we are going to talk about him fighting in Vegas again might be a no answer.

Also , according to forbes, just to OT a little bit.  If pacman sill win on this fight he might pursue fighting Spence which is also a hard to beat fighter. What are your thoughts?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterkahn/2019/07/09/manny-pacquiao-vs-keith-thurman-why-july-20-could-be-the-last-time-pacquiao-ever-fights-in-las-vegas/

If he loses by a knockout or gets serious beating  it's time for him to hang his gloves, boxers like Pacquiao must have a confirmation that he doesn't have it anymore, just like what happens to all great fighters like Ali and Dela Hoya if he loses by a decision he will still come back to fight and of course if he wins this fight, his saga continues.

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July 10, 2019, 05:08:41 PM
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I think boxing nowadays is more on a business venture than the game itself.  It is always a win-win in both sides, and although I am truly amazed on Manny’s skills in boxing; he will eventually meet a true opponent wherein people can really gamble their money for what is worth and not just for fame. And good luck to both of them, hopefully it wouldn’t be a unanimous decision again (just saying though, no pun intended).
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July 10, 2019, 08:02:20 PM
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I initially thought that Manny Pacquiao doesn't want any of his son to follow in his footsteps, specially inside the boxing ring. So I'm surprised that he allowed his son to go side by side with him in his training regimen.
It's just training but i doubt that Jimuel will turn pro as Jinky (Manny's wife) is against the idea of Jimuel boxing. For me it's just television exposure as Jimuel is into showbiz in the Philippines.

That's what my initial thought too. Jinky is very protective that's why I was surprised to him training and then some video of him fighting. Jinky knows Manny's path to boxing greatness is not that easy that's why she doesn't want any of his boys to turn into boxing. But being a actor in the Philippines? another disastrous career.  Grin

@darklus123 - I think that was the plan after all, chase big money fights, including Spence or even Terrence Crawford. So let's see if Manny's body can hold up and still go with this young boxers right now.

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July 10, 2019, 08:36:20 PM
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If pacman sill win on this fight he might pursue fighting Spence which is also a hard to beat fighter. What are your thoughts?


I would really love that fight and I think Manny will be a sure underdog of this fight, this one is sure better than a rematch with Mayweather.
Is this Error Spence Jr. guys?

If it's him, I just checked his professional record and damn, this kid has 0 losses. It made me interested to check the past fights on how this kid fight, I think this would be a good fight but I can't tell now on how good it will. I have to watch more of his fights.

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July 10, 2019, 09:41:38 PM
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If pacman sill win on this fight he might pursue fighting Spence which is also a hard to beat fighter. What are your thoughts?


I would really love that fight and I think Manny will be a sure underdog of this fight, this one is sure better than a rematch with Mayweather.

+ 1. Manny is gonna be a huge underdog to The Truth. As to Manny vs. Mayweather, well, boxing is sports entertainment. A Mayweather bout is not entertainment. It is dead boring.

And I love to still put my bet on him despite him being an underdog as he still has the experience in boxing, so it's gonna be another interesting fight to watch. I expecting an odds like 3+ for Manny and that is a value for me, one more interesting fact is that spence is also a southpaw.

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July 11, 2019, 02:46:28 AM
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If pacman sill win on this fight he might pursue fighting Spence which is also a hard to beat fighter. What are your thoughts?


I would really love that fight and I think Manny will be a sure underdog of this fight, this one is sure better than a rematch with Mayweather.

+ 1. Manny is gonna be a huge underdog to The Truth. As to Manny vs. Mayweather, well, boxing is sports entertainment. A Mayweather bout is not entertainment. It is dead boring.

And I love to still put my bet on him despite him being an underdog as he still has the experience in boxing, so it's gonna be another interesting fight to watch. I expecting an odds like 3+ for Manny and that is a value for me, one more interesting fact is that spence is also a southpaw.

I'm afraid I'll be putting my money on the other side of the fence if this fight will happen. The experience of this legend is really vast but if the body cannot precisely execute what is in the mind, it is surely going to be a mess. The 29-year old Spence might finish his career. To be fair though, I don't think the killer left of Manny is dead. It may be old but still as deadly.

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July 11, 2019, 03:59:46 AM
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Going back to Manny, I saw on local TV that he is training together with his son Jimuel.

So he is training his son to follow his foot step? I think that's a lot of pressure for the son as his father will soon become a hall of famer and a legend.

Good luck to him -  Grin

I'm not sure though, and I don't know if Jimuel has the tools to be as great as his father. Probably the young Pacquiao is out there to give support to his pop no matter out.

Let Thurman run his mouth, it's just a couple of days from now and we will see if he can back it up.

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July 11, 2019, 04:14:03 AM
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Of course, it is very difficult to predict the results of the battle now, because really great fighters will enter the ring.  Even bookmakers today are in difficulty to determine the favorite, because the odds ratio for opponents is only 1.91.
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July 11, 2019, 04:57:14 AM
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Of course, it is very difficult to predict the results of the battle now, because really great fighters will enter the ring.  Even bookmakers today are in difficulty to determine the favorite, because the odds ratio for opponents is only 1.91.

Thurman is clearly the favorite, but bookmakers have changed the odds in order to adjust the crazy amounts of bets being waged in favor of Manny Pacquiao. In normal circumstances, Keith Thurman should win the fight handsomely. The only way he can lose is if he takes Manny too lightly, or become too overconfident and ignore the basics.
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July 11, 2019, 08:13:22 AM
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+ 1. Manny is gonna be a huge underdog to The Truth. As to Manny vs. Mayweather, well, boxing is sports entertainment. A Mayweather bout is not entertainment. It is dead boring.
I can't seem to agree more. Ever since Mayther started making into pedestal. All his fights that I have seen are pretty boring. Yup if you are an avid boxing fan you will easily understand that he is indeed a great boxer. However it is still undeniable that a real fighter who does not just box but who's willing to face his opponent in front of another are the real champions. That is why Pacman is very famous and other fighters like him
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July 11, 2019, 08:21:48 AM
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+ 1. Manny is gonna be a huge underdog to The Truth. As to Manny vs. Mayweather, well, boxing is sports entertainment. A Mayweather bout is not entertainment. It is dead boring.
I can't seem to agree more. Ever since Mayther started making into pedestal. All his fights that I have seen are pretty boring. Yup if you are an avid boxing fan you will easily understand that he is indeed a great boxer. However it is still undeniable that a real fighter who does not just box but who's willing to face his opponent in front of another are the real champions. That is why Pacman is very famous and other fighters like him
Boxing is a sweet science wherein you have to hit your opponent and don't be hit in return. Mayweather is very good at that, that is why he is called the "Pretty Boy" in the early stage of his career while Manny sacrifices to be hit in order for him to counter great shots to put the opponent down and that seems to click with the fight fans.
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July 11, 2019, 10:08:27 AM
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+ 1. Manny is gonna be a huge underdog to The Truth. As to Manny vs. Mayweather, well, boxing is sports entertainment. A Mayweather bout is not entertainment. It is dead boring.
I can't seem to agree more. Ever since Mayther started making into pedestal. All his fights that I have seen are pretty boring. Yup if you are an avid boxing fan you will easily understand that he is indeed a great boxer. However it is still undeniable that a real fighter who does not just box but who's willing to face his opponent in front of another are the real champions. That is why Pacman is very famous and other fighters like him
Boxing is a sweet science wherein you have to hit your opponent and don't be hit in return. Mayweather is very good at that, that is why he is called the "Pretty Boy" in the early stage of his career while Manny sacrifices to be hit in order for him to counter great shots to put the opponent down and that seems to click with the fight fans.
If you it that way maybe Mayweather is indeed a genius with his style, but in the sense that boxing is a fist fight challenge where the fighters is aiming to knock down his opponent and the fans really being entertained doing such things, in terms of this fight we will see if what type of fight this two boxers have to offer and how entertaining it will be for the fans and the gamblers.
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July 11, 2019, 12:29:06 PM
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Even bookmakers today are in difficulty to determine the favorite, because the odds ratio for opponents is only 1.91.

What sportsbook are you using? I don't see that odds in sportsbook and I know sportsbook has similar odds with other good sportsbook.
Currently at sportsbet, Manny is the favorite with 1.67 while Thurman now at 2.08.

You can check the link ..

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/pacquiao-manny-thurman-keith/U3BvcnRzYmV0TmV3R3JhcGhxbEV2ZW50OjVjZTNmYzI1NjA3NTFkYTJmZThkYjA2Mg==

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July 11, 2019, 12:51:59 PM
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Even bookmakers today are in difficulty to determine the favorite, because the odds ratio for opponents is only 1.91.

What sportsbook are you using? I don't see that odds in sportsbook and I know sportsbook has similar odds with other good sportsbook.
Currently at sportsbet, Manny is the favorite with 1.67 while Thurman now at 2.08.

You can check the link ..

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/pacquiao-manny-thurman-keith/U3BvcnRzYmV0TmV3R3JhcGhxbEV2ZW50OjVjZTNmYzI1NjA3NTFkYTJmZThkYjA2Mg==

Lol.

Thurman get lost. Last time I check it.

It’s
Pacquiao, Manny - 1.72
Thurman, Keith - 2.01

9 days more left for the fight. Thurman must shown something good that can really really surprise manny.


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July 11, 2019, 11:08:57 PM
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If pacman sill win on this fight he might pursue fighting Spence which is also a hard to beat fighter. What are your thoughts?


I would really love that fight and I think Manny will be a sure underdog of this fight, this one is sure better than a rematch with Mayweather.

+ 1. Manny is gonna be a huge underdog to The Truth. As to Manny vs. Mayweather, well, boxing is sports entertainment. A Mayweather bout is not entertainment. It is dead boring.

And I love to still put my bet on him despite him being an underdog as he still has the experience in boxing, so it's gonna be another interesting fight to watch. I expecting an odds like 3+ for Manny and that is a value for me, one more interesting fact is that spence is also a southpaw.

I'm afraid I'll be putting my money on the other side of the fence if this fight will happen. The experience of this legend is really vast but if the body cannot precisely execute what is in the mind, it is surely going to be a mess. The 29-year old Spence might finish his career. To be fair though, I don't think the killer left of Manny is dead. It may be old but still as deadly.
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Pacman is a deadly boxer. Though he is old enough compared to his enemy, Thurman. I don't think that Thurman will dominate the ring. Pacman has a lot of experience ever since. And even, Morales and Marquez knew that Pacman is a dangerous boxer. One mistake that  he might make and all punches will connect to Pacman, knock out may happen.

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July 11, 2019, 11:30:04 PM
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I checked the stats of Keith Thurman and what surprises me is that aside from his last fight last January 26, 2019 and he won against Josesito Lopez through Majority Decision, his last fight before that was March 04, 2017 and he won via split decision. That means he was away for 1 year, 10 months and 23 days, he may have won on his last fight and yet odds still favor him, compared to Manny who didnt miss a year fighting regardless of the outcome if its win or lose.
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July 11, 2019, 11:42:13 PM
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I checked the stats of Keith Thurman and what surprises me is that aside from his last fight last January 26, 2019 and he won against Josesito Lopez through Majority Decision, his last fight before that was March 04, 2017 and he won via split decision. That means he was away for 1 year, 10 months and 23 days, he may have won on his last fight and yet odds still favor him, compared to Manny who didnt miss a year fighting regardless of the outcome if its win or lose.

I think the confidence of Thurman let the people think that Thurman has the upper hand, he is the underdog but I don't think the odds should be against Manny Pacquiao. 9 days before the fight, I think there is a chance that it will still change. Considering the fact that he's out for that long, it may be great to rest but in Boxing, that can ruin your career.

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July 11, 2019, 11:49:17 PM
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I checked the stats of Keith Thurman and what surprises me is that aside from his last fight last January 26, 2019 and he won against Josesito Lopez through Majority Decision, his last fight before that was March 04, 2017 and he won via split decision. That means he was away for 1 year, 10 months and 23 days, he may have won on his last fight and yet odds still favor him, compared to Manny who didnt miss a year fighting regardless of the outcome if its win or lose.

I think the confidence of Thurman let the people think that Thurman has the upper hand, he is the underdog but I don't think the odds should be against Manny Pacquiao. 9 days before the fight, I think there is a chance that it will still change. Considering the fact that he's out for that long, it may be great to rest but in Boxing, that can ruin your career.
The question maybe if this fight will go to the distance or not. Keith Thurman last 2 fight are via decision. Majority of Manny Pacquiaos fight lately are going to the distance so I guess Keith Thurmans claim that he will knock out Manny Pacquiao is just a hype, I don't think he can deliver such promise to the boxing fans.
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