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March 21, 2021, 07:14:55 AM |
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yeah I have to list a 7970 these are close to 200
and I guess a 1050ti these are over 220
Where you can get that kind of price?! In here these cards are listed 30-50€ and nobody wants to buy them. |
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yeah I have to list a 7970 these are close to 200
and I guess a 1050ti these are over 220
Where you can get that kind of price?! In here these cards are listed 30-50€ and nobody wants to buy them. You would be surprised but the 7970 "might" sell for close to $200. Basically eventually someone will pay that price. I am seeing R9 270X go for $100 which was the going rate back in 2015 after the LTC scrypt ASICs came out and market was flooded with these GPUs. Why would someone pay $200 for a GPU worth $50? Well if you look on your local Craiglist or FB Marketplace there are almost no GPUs going for that price. Most are around $500 and there are many which are >$1000. So all of a sudden a decent GPU for $200 doesn't sound like a bad deal. There really is nothing out there. 90% of all the GPUs on Craiglist are basically flippers. Only 10% are actual used second hand GPUs, however maybe 5% of those are bargain GPUs under <$200. If someone really needs a GPU its the price they will pay. 1 year ago? Yes the 7970 was useless and worth maybe 30 Euros. |
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https://cryptonews.com/news/ethereum-moves-ahead-with-plans-for-earlier-transition-to-pr-9607.htmEthereum (ETH)’s planned move to a proof-of-stake (PoS) consensus mechanism appears to be gaining further momentum, after developers proposed merging the existing mainnet with the Ethereum 2.0 beacon chain as early as October. Are we looking at October as a possible time eth mining ends? If so it might be a good time to start sellling older GPUs and not buying any new GPUs.
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March 21, 2021, 05:27:01 PM |
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Okey, Small list that are easily available here and prices (used). R9 280X = 50€ RX470,480,570,580 4G/8G = 130€/250€ GTX970 = 100€ GTX980ti = 250€ GTX1060 3G/6G = 120€/200€ GTX1070/1070ti = 300€/350€ GTX1080/1080ti = 400€/500 € GTX1660 = 300€ RTX2060 = 360€ RTX2070/2070S = 500€/550€ RTX2080 = 600€ RTX2080ti = 800€ 3000 Series now 3060 = 500€ 3070 = 1000€ 3080 = 1400€ 3090 = 2400€ RX 5000 Series RX5600XT = not available RX5700XT = 800€ RX6000 Series , Only available 6900XT 1400€ There is loads of these on local craigslist, people are getting now their 3000 serie cards which they ordered couple months ago with MSRP. And of course selling new cards with profit and many did order cards from many places and now they got cards to sell  |
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How does everyone here store their crypto? I just had about $800 worth of Eth stolen. A year and a half ago had $100 (don't even want to calculate the current value) of btc stolen. I am a system administrator, and even though I am pretty willy nilly with not being super secure with the keys on my computer, I like to think I know enough that my machine doesn't become compromised. This latest loss was through Metamask, which is retrospect was pretty dumb to use with my daily browser
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How does everyone here store their crypto? I just had about $800 worth of Eth stolen. A year and a half ago had $100 (don't even want to calculate the current value) of btc stolen. I am a system administrator, and even though I am pretty willy nilly with not being super secure with the keys on my computer, I like to think I know enough that my machine doesn't become compromised. This latest loss was through Metamask, which is retrospect was pretty dumb to use with my daily browser
trezor... TREZORbuy the 3 pack. now! BTW you can use metamask with trezor, the difference is you have to press trezor button to send coins-->which a hacker can't do  you can also use them for hardware 2fa on sites (exchanges, email etc.) if you don't have yubi keys yet, yubi keys have more sites supported but trezor might be enough for some. |
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It takes a while for a hardware wallet to arrive, plus you have the issue where your private information can be stored on a database that gets hacked later like with Ledger.
Your best bet is to download Electrum. Find an old laptop you never use. Rip out the Bluetooth and Wifi module from it. Install Electrum on both your online and offline computer. Use the old laptop to sign your transaction. The online computer will only be a watching only address.
If you don't have BTC and only ETH, then you can do the exact same thing with MyEtherWallet. Just download it and run it offline and use the "Offline Helper" tool to create offline transctions. You can do this on ETH and any of the tokens. This way your crypto will never get stolen.
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March 22, 2021, 06:53:02 AM |
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It takes a while for a hardware wallet to arrive, plus you have the issue where your private information can be stored on a database that gets hacked later like with Ledger.
Your best bet is to download Electrum. Find an old laptop you never use. Rip out the Bluetooth and Wifi module from it. Install Electrum on both your online and offline computer. Use the old laptop to sign your transaction. The online computer will only be a watching only address.
If you don't have BTC and only ETH, then you can do the exact same thing with MyEtherWallet. Just download it and run it offline and use the "Offline Helper" tool to create offline transctions. You can do this on ETH and any of the tokens. This way your crypto will never get stolen.
Ordered Trezor at the start of January and got it last week, there is some delay and post isnt working very well now. Just my experience. I have been using BRD (Iphone) for moving btc, i feel its quite safe but risk is always there. |
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March 22, 2021, 09:07:43 AM
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It takes a while for a hardware wallet to arrive, plus you have the issue where your private information can be stored on a database that gets hacked later like with Ledger.
Your best bet is to download Electrum. Find an old laptop you never use. Rip out the Bluetooth and Wifi module from it. Install Electrum on both your online and offline computer. Use the old laptop to sign your transaction. The online computer will only be a watching only address.
If you don't have BTC and only ETH, then you can do the exact same thing with MyEtherWallet. Just download it and run it offline and use the "Offline Helper" tool to create offline transctions. You can do this on ETH and any of the tokens. This way your crypto will never get stolen.
Ordered Trezor at the start of January and got it last week, there is some delay and post isnt working very well now. Just my experience. I have been using BRD (Iphone) for moving btc, i feel its quite safe but risk is always there. generally dhl, ups and fedex are faster than post..there are exceptions of course depending on countries and conditions. quoting myself.. --snip--
Now..i know you are not getting a hardware wallet ..until you lost your coins LOL so don't be stingy, grab at least 2 for backup purposes. Trezor 1 is a lot cheaper now. Trezor model T have more compatability as a key, just read info on hardware wallets and get the one you need.
"stingy"...that's the word we are in a bullrun, what if your shitcoin pump? where are you going to withdraw your coins? to your malware'd PC? what if it is a life changing amount? mining profits are high, shitcoin profits are high so don't be stingy folks, there is no reason to be... ...but yeah i get it when some guy says in a telegram chat last bullrun that the trezor end up worth more than the erc20 shitcoin he bought for 1000s of dollars LOL |
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March 22, 2021, 01:35:55 PM |
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Stupid cheap is my saying.
or penny wise and pound foolish .
I have multiple trezors.
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Coldcard is really nice too. You can use it like a trezor or ledger or you can use it like an airgapped wallet with an SD card. You can power it with a 9v battery so it never touches a computer also. Or put the bitcoin on an OpenDime and send it to someone by snail mail or carrier pigeon  Its very easy to get a keylogger on your computer and it can happen to anyone regardless of your skill level. Almost everyone has had some amount of bitcoin lost, whether by trojan/keylog/bad exchange/lost paper wallet/mixup in the seeds, etc. |
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Back before hardware wallets or Electrum or MyEtherWallet I just did it the old fashioned way and used a paper wallet. Went to that bitcoinaddress website, saved it offline, doubled checked the hash on the offline computer. Then I created about a hundred different addresses, made each private key encrypted with a password that would take millions of years to crack. Bought a $20 printer at Walmart, printed out a few copies, then destroyed that printer office space style.
Then would send everything to one address, and when I need to spend it I would send to wherever I need to send it and the change would go to the new address. It was very time consuming however I didnt mind because I knew it wasn't possible to get hacked in any shape or form that way.
Years later I realised that I didn't need to keep destorying $20 printers when the private key was encrypted anyways. But the printer was cheap. They were like $10 each plus a $10 environment fee.
Those were the good old days...
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March 23, 2021, 05:20:06 AM |
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It takes a while for a hardware wallet to arrive, plus you have the issue where your private information can be stored on a database that gets hacked later like with Ledger.
Your best bet is to download Electrum. Find an old laptop you never use. Rip out the Bluetooth and Wifi module from it. Install Electrum on both your online and offline computer. Use the old laptop to sign your transaction. The online computer will only be a watching only address.
If you don't have BTC and only ETH, then you can do the exact same thing with MyEtherWallet. Just download it and run it offline and use the "Offline Helper" tool to create offline transctions. You can do this on ETH and any of the tokens. This way your crypto will never get stolen.
Ordered Trezor at the start of January and got it last week, there is some delay and post isnt working very well now. Just my experience. I have been using BRD (Iphone) for moving btc, i feel its quite safe but risk is always there. hardware wallets have an additonal attack surface thier software on top of intergration with metamask etc for defi i just use the software wallet and never store my private key digitally |
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March 23, 2021, 05:22:52 AM |
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Back before hardware wallets or Electrum or MyEtherWallet I just did it the old fashioned way and used a paper wallet. Went to that bitcoinaddress website, saved it offline, doubled checked the hash on the offline computer. Then I created about a hundred different addresses, made each private key encrypted with a password that would take millions of years to crack. Bought a $20 printer at Walmart, printed out a few copies, then destroyed that printer office space style.
Then would send everything to one address, and when I need to spend it I would send to wherever I need to send it and the change would go to the new address. It was very time consuming however I didnt mind because I knew it wasn't possible to get hacked in any shape or form that way.
Years later I realised that I didn't need to keep destorying $20 printers when the private key was encrypted anyways. But the printer was cheap. They were like $10 each plus a $10 environment fee.
Those were the good old days...
a keylogger is the biggest fear to the software wallets if the trezor solves this by forcing an manual click of a button to withdraw or speend funds on metamask that would be good but the ledger hardware wallet hack has soured me on these |
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March 23, 2021, 08:11:23 AM
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Back before hardware wallets or Electrum or MyEtherWallet I just did it the old fashioned way and used a paper wallet. Went to that bitcoinaddress website, saved it offline, doubled checked the hash on the offline computer. Then I created about a hundred different addresses, made each private key encrypted with a password that would take millions of years to crack. Bought a $20 printer at Walmart, printed out a few copies, then destroyed that printer office space style.
Then would send everything to one address, and when I need to spend it I would send to wherever I need to send it and the change would go to the new address. It was very time consuming however I didnt mind because I knew it wasn't possible to get hacked in any shape or form that way.
Years later I realised that I didn't need to keep destorying $20 printers when the private key was encrypted anyways. But the printer was cheap. They were like $10 each plus a $10 environment fee.
Those were the good old days...
a keylogger is the biggest fear to the software wallets if the trezor solves this by forcing an manual click of a button to withdraw or speend funds on metamask that would be good but the ledger hardware wallet hack has soured me on these yup trezor always asks to press the button in the HW wallet. also the pin is also safe from malware because-you are the only one able to see the screen, every time you connect trezor the pin in the screen is rescrambled again and again. trezor password is more like a security layer for accessing a wallet/address of your choice: different passwords = different account softwares like Neo’s SafeKeys v3 https://www.aplin.com.au/ can help against keyloggers now for the lazy ones (including me), you can glue trezor to your monitor(at the side, upper part)...there your wallet is right beside your browser and apps ready to be seen (send address verification, etc.) and press the button hehe |
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March 23, 2021, 01:02:13 PM |
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Years later I realised that I didn't need to keep destorying $20 printers  admit it you enjoyed it too much |
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Coldcard is really nice too. You can use it like a trezor or ledger or you can use it like an airgapped wallet with an SD card. You can power it with a 9v battery so it never touches a computer also. Or put the bitcoin on an OpenDime and send it to someone by snail mail or carrier pigeon Its very easy to get a keylogger on your computer and it can happen to anyone regardless of your skill level. Almost everyone has had some amount of bitcoin lost, whether by trojan/keylog/bad exchange/lost paper wallet/mixup in the seeds, etc. I am eventually going to buy one of these, as they by far appear to be the most secure wallet. The only downfall (for my current situation) is that its bitcoin only. I currently keep my btc holdings on Gemini, but eventually I will move a majority to my own control and will definitely use the coldcard. My current dilemma is storage of the ETH I mine, and I guess eventually the additional ETH I will probably store myself |
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So After trying for 6 months to get a Nvidia gpu from Best Buy I finally snagged one on March 12th a PNY 3090 for 1900 usd minus a gift card of 100 so 1800 bucks. With all taxes and shipping counted in. I was supposed to get it on Sat the 20th go to my local store in Brick NJ.
Guess what fuck you Phil we cancelled it.
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Purchase Date: Mar 12, 2021 Order Number: BBY01-xxxxxxxx2580 Total: $0.00
Hi PHILIP!
Before we can show you your full order details, we just need to make sure it’s you.
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We canceled your order of this item on Mar 22, 2021 and will refund your
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I am not gong to be able to get it.
However I am arguing for compensation as they tied my money up from March 12 to March 22 and cancelled without my permission.
Maybe I can get a 75 or 100 dollar gift card from them. As this was their fault not mine.
I would prefer the gpu but at least a gift card helps a bit.
So at the moment.
1x asrock 5500xt RMA coming on weds. 26mh
1x power color 5700xt RMA coming on Fri. 50mh
1x asus strix 6700xt coming on thurs 55mh?
that is 131mh to add to current 2500mh
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March 23, 2021, 09:39:17 PM |
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get trezor/ledger for ETH and erc-20 tokens. best bet. The other one you do need to be a bit knowledgeable as it is really not as user friendly
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