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I recently heard this breakdown of exactly why this system is a danger that I thought was quite eloquent and does a good job getting past the "conspiracy theory" aura around this discussion and covering factually possible application.
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I recently heard this breakdown of exactly why this system is a danger that I thought was quite eloquent and does a good job getting past the "conspiracy theory" aura around this discussion and covering factually possible application. With higher frequencies you can generate almost any lower frequency you want. 5G is way up in the 80 Ghz range. Tom Wheeler, Obama's FCC, promised (or threatened) that ' rural areas will not be left out of the 5G revolution' which is to happen ASAP. Just recently there has been a huge push to get 'smartmeters' out to my area which is so rural that it doesn't even have cell service. Lots of resistance, and every strong-arm procedure was used to facilitate the change-over. It's pretty fishy to be honest. I hypothesize that these devices and others like them are programmable units which could generate pretty much any wave-form they are programed to create. I further hypothesize that they, like any other networked computer, are hackable (and probably have a ton of back-doors wired in to boot.) So, what we have here is a potential weapons system which anyone (could be blamed for) turning into a weapon which effects almost everyone in the country saved for a few people who happened to be out on a hike or something. I did not reject my smart-meter, but I published in public form that as a condition to emplacement of the device I specifically reserve the right to destroy the device it starts producing harm to me, my visitors, or any of the biota on my property.
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Actually, it goes way beyond this. Consider chemtrails. They are made up of, among other things, nano aluminum oxide and some form of nano barium. These and others have been sprayed throughout the air of America (the world?) in large quantities for the last 12 years, and they have been sprayed to some extent since the 1950s. Where do these nano metals/minerals go after they have been sprayed into the air? Everywhere. Into our lungs through the air we breathe. Onto and into the ground as the rain washes them out of the skies. Into the food that grows in the ground, and later into our bodies when we eat this food. Much of it ultimately goes into our brains in nano form. What does it do in our brains? Much of it simply sits there. Some of it causes all kinds of diseases of the brain (and body), especially in people who have compromised immune systems, and in others who are simply genetically weak in some specific area that these particles can attack. But what is the real purpose why the elite might want it in our brains? And what does this have to do with 5G and smart meters? Here's what. Both aluminum and barium are materials that are easily affected by radio waves. Both of them aren't easily dissolved in the body and converted into other body chemicals - meaning that they just sit there, in the body, until the body can wash them out through natural cleansings. This means that the 5G radio controllers can affect the way we think by focusing 5G radio waves, tuned by smart meters for particular localities, on our brain-filled, electronically-reactive metals/minerals. We can be controlled like unsuspecting zombies. The simplest result will be many deaths... to help depopulate the world as the elite want. A second result will be to change the common-sense mentality of many Americans so that American freedom - particularly gun freedom - will be brought into slavery. But ultimately it will be used to bind the peoples of the world into a one-world government, by actually changing their socialistic fears and desires. All of this will be used to put down the religious belief in God, and especially the belief in the Savior, Jesus. When there are only a few Jesus believers left in the world, and they are in danger of being lost, then Jesus will return to help them fight the elite enemy. Some of the technology is already available to start this zombie control right now. Other of it is being developed... and it includes the AI that will be needed to do the actual complex coordinating of the controlling. The simple Faraday cage is not capable of protecting from 5G and smart meters, especially with our chemtrail-compromised brains. For protection, we will need houses surrounded in metal sheathing. And they will have to be set up in ways so that we don't use any of our electronic devices within, or the waves from these devices will fry us. Strategic thinking will have to go into the ways we make and protect our housing. Start to think by activating your smartphone, and then sticking it into an unplugged microwave oven. Look at the face of it through the window once you close the oven door. Watch how it loses network connectivity as the connectivity bars go down. This will give you ideas about how to protect yourself using metal screens. Just think of it. After a while you will probably see a bunch of us enlightened jokers walking down the streets with microwave ovens around our heads. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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I recently heard this breakdown of exactly why this system is a danger that I thought was quite eloquent and does a good job getting past the "conspiracy theory" aura around this discussion and covering factually possible application. Move away from the densely populated areas. Buy a simple phone: https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/#buyGo through Wi-fi and LTE data withdrawal. Switch to a simple phone/text plan. Eliminate Wi-fi around your house, use Ethernet. Limit social media use. Read books. Talk to people. Exercise. Don't worry about it.
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May 28, 2019, 01:55:37 PM |
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I recently heard this breakdown of exactly why this system is a danger that I thought was quite eloquent and does a good job getting past the "conspiracy theory" aura around this discussion and covering factually possible application. Move away from the densely populated areas. Buy a simple phone: https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/#buyGo through Wi-fi and LTE data withdrawal. Switch to a simple phone/text plan. Eliminate Wi-fi around your house, use Ethernet. Limit social media use. Read books. Talk to people. Exercise. Don't worry about it. That won't be possible when they want to bring on global WI-FI at blazing speeds that will be shooting through our skulls. It will be everywhere and you won't be able to avoid it. Expect IQ levels to drop, cancer rates to rise, and migraine headaches. Human's aren't adapted to deal with this stuff.
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I recently heard this breakdown of exactly why this system is a danger that I thought was quite eloquent and does a good job getting past the "conspiracy theory" aura around this discussion and covering factually possible application. Move away from the densely populated areas. Buy a simple phone: https://www.punkt.ch/en/products/mp02-4g-mobile-phone/#buyGo through Wi-fi and LTE data withdrawal. Switch to a simple phone/text plan. Eliminate Wi-fi around your house, use Ethernet. Limit social media use. Read books. Talk to people. Exercise. Don't worry about it. That won't be possible when they want to bring on global WI-FI at blazing speeds that will be shooting through our skulls. It will be everywhere and you won't be able to avoid it. Expect IQ levels to drop, cancer rates to rise, and migraine headaches. Human's aren't adapted to deal with this stuff. The customer is always right. If no one will be using their Wi-Fi or 5G networks, they will have to disinvest. Problem is that most people are imbeciles. They want faster porn, snapchat, tons of useless data-hungry apps, online games, maps, movie streaming or whatever else they use their cellular data for, without thinking about the consequences. It will be what it will be. The only thing you can do to opt-out of that wireless 'nirvana'.
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I recently heard this breakdown of exactly why this system is a danger that I thought was quite eloquent and does a good job getting past the "conspiracy theory" aura around this discussion and covering factually possible application. I totally believe that. I remember when microwaves were first came to the world that scientists said that they are not healthy and it will make a negative impact to us. The same thing can be applied for 5g and as the frequency increases the more harm is going to happen.
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Actually, it goes way beyond this. Consider chemtrails. They are made up of, among other things, nano aluminum oxide and some form of nano barium. These and others have been sprayed throughout the air of America (the world?) in large quantities for the last 12 years, and they have been sprayed to some extent since the 1950s. Where do these nano metals/minerals go after they have been sprayed into the air? Everywhere. Into our lungs through the air we breathe. Onto and into the ground as the rain washes them out of the skies. Into the food that grows in the ground, and later into our bodies when we eat this food. Much of it ultimately goes into our brains in nano form. What does it do in our brains? Much of it simply sits there. Some of it causes all kinds of diseases of the brain (and body), especially in people who have compromised immune systems, and in others who are simply genetically weak in some specific area that these particles can attack. But what is the real purpose why the elite might want it in our brains? And what does this have to do with 5G and smart meters? Here's what. Both aluminum and barium are materials that are easily affected by radio waves. Both of them aren't easily dissolved in the body and converted into other body chemicals - meaning that they just sit there, in the body, until the body can wash them out through natural cleansings. This means that the 5G radio controllers can affect the way we think by focusing 5G radio waves, tuned by smart meters for particular localities, on our brain-filled, electronically-reactive metals/minerals. We can be controlled like unsuspecting zombies. The simplest result will be many deaths... to help depopulate the world as the elite want. A second result will be to change the common-sense mentality of many Americans so that American freedom - particularly gun freedom - will be brought into slavery. But ultimately it will be used to bind the peoples of the world into a one-world government, by actually changing their socialistic fears and desires. All of this will be used to put down the religious belief in God, and especially the belief in the Savior, Jesus. When there are only a few Jesus believers left in the world, and they are in danger of being lost, then Jesus will return to help them fight the elite enemy. Some of the technology is already available to start this zombie control right now. Other of it is being developed... and it includes the AI that will be needed to do the actual complex coordinating of the controlling. The simple Faraday cage is not capable of protecting from 5G and smart meters, especially with our chemtrail-compromised brains. For protection, we will need houses surrounded in metal sheathing. And they will have to be set up in ways so that we don't use any of our electronic devices within, or the waves from these devices will fry us. Strategic thinking will have to go into the ways we make and protect our housing. Start to think by activating your smartphone, and then sticking it into an unplugged microwave oven. Look at the face of it through the window once you close the oven door. Watch how it loses network connectivity as the connectivity bars go down. This will give you ideas about how to protect yourself using metal screens. Just think of it. After a while you will probably see a bunch of us enlightened jokers walking down the streets with microwave ovens around our heads. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Isn't that kind of over thinking things (assuming you're correct). Why not a plague? Why not something that sterilizes humans? Like births drop 10% year over year for 8 years. That would solve the problem (if I understand your point - that the powers that be want to reduce the total human population.)
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Isn't that kind of over thinking things (assuming you're correct). Why not a plague? Why not something that sterilizes humans? Like births drop 10% year over year for 8 years. That would solve the problem (if I understand your point - that the powers that be want to reduce the total human population.)
Primarily because they enjoy using systems that have multiple beneficial uses (for them). In this case it can allow for very specific targeting of dissidents etc. Biological warfare is messy, can mutate, and can get out of control very quickly.
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Isn't that kind of over thinking things (assuming you're correct). Why not a plague? Why not something that sterilizes humans? Like births drop 10% year over year for 8 years. That would solve the problem (if I understand your point - that the powers that be want to reduce the total human population.)
Actually, it is way under-thinking things. It is only a basic concept. Tie it together with all the rest of the BS going on, and you will see a gigantic mountain. If they move forward slowly, it's because they don't want to destroy themselves by what they are doing. Consider when you build a bomb in your basement. You go about it slowly, learning everything you can, and testing it a little at a time. You are careful, right? Nobody has ever conquered the world in this way before. If it was ever done, it was done in prehistory. There is no written formula that has been tested with accuracy and assurance as to its safety. They are working carefully, both because they don't know what the results will be, and so that their care introduces what they are doing slowly enough that we don't see it coming. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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With higher frequencies you can generate almost any lower frequency you want. 5G is way up in the 80 Ghz range.
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I might be missing something, but who said 5G would be 80Ghz? Anything in the EHF spectrum starting around 20Ghz isn't suitable for data transmission, as it starts to get interfered with by the atmosphere. *Edit* Found it, here is the study that everyone seems to be referencing that proved that you could use EHF for 5G: https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/ielx7/25/7469422/07434656.pdf?tp=&arnumber=7434656&isnumber=7469422Still reading through it, notably the loss portion of it. I'm not sure how much loss is permitted where a signal can still transmit all of the data that would be required. Gut reaction is still that high frequency 5G bands are being reserved just in case, and that it isn't very feasible.
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With higher frequencies you can generate almost any lower frequency you want. 5G is way up in the 80 Ghz range.
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I might be missing something, but who said 5G would be 80Ghz? Anything in the EHF spectrum starting around 20Ghz isn't suitable for data transmission, as it starts to get interfered with by the atmosphere. *Edit* Found it, here is the study that everyone seems to be referencing that proved that you could use EHF for 5G: https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/ielx7/25/7469422/07434656.pdf?tp=&arnumber=7434656&isnumber=7469422Still reading through it, notably the loss portion of it. I'm not sure how much loss is permitted where a signal can still transmit all of the data that would be required. Gut reaction is still that high frequency 5G bands are being reserved just in case, and that it isn't very feasible. I think the confusion revolves around the transmission system. Most radio signals are omnidirectional, 5G is a highly directional beam which probably has better transmission quality compared to classic transmission methods. I think this may be where the confusion is coming from.
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I might be missing something, but who said 5G would be 80Ghz? Anything in the EHF spectrum starting around 20Ghz isn't suitable for data transmission, as it starts to get interfered with by the atmosphere. *Edit* Found it, here is the study that everyone seems to be referencing that proved that you could use EHF for 5G: https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/ielx7/25/7469422/07434656.pdf?tp=&arnumber=7434656&isnumber=7469422Still reading through it, notably the loss portion of it. I'm not sure how much loss is permitted where a signal can still transmit all of the data that would be required. Gut reaction is still that high frequency 5G bands are being reserved just in case, and that it isn't very feasible. I think the confusion revolves around the transmission system. Most radio signals are omnidirectional, 5G is a highly directional beam which probably has better transmission quality compared to classic transmission methods. I think this may be where the confusion is coming from. If signal was unidirectional, the transceivers would need to be stationary like an old TV Satellite antennae. I see where its been proposed, but it looks like its just spitballing whether or not its possible, and my best guess says that EHF frquencies are not likely for consumer data transmission. Higher frequency waves can carry more data, however they suffer from shorter range, less malleability, and environmental interference. Wifi or your cellphone signals can go through your walls assuming you don't have wire mesh in them. EHF frequencies have amplitudes along the same size as atmospheric gas molecules, so just traveling through the air, let alone though structures, the waves are distorted. There is more energy and higher frequency waves, and you can save energy required in broadcasting by making it unidirectional, but then you run into the troubles where you would need to stop moving and orient your phone towards a provider tower. In practice, they could make the network, but you likely wouldn't be able to use 5G indoors, there would be plenty of deadspots in cities, you'd need to stand still and orient towards the receiver tower, all sorts of things that would make 5G not very consumer friendly. You could get around a few of those problems by increasing the power, but then you'd really be bombarding people. Your microwave oven is in essence just a directed 1000 watt wifi modem. I suppose another thing that would work is a hell of a lot of repeating and boosting infrastructure, subway stations spend quite a bit on making sure people can get phonecalls and internet on trains, but you'd need that nearly everywhere and I'd assume it'd be cost prohibitive. The FCC limit for safe safe absorption rate of EM radiation from cellphones is 1.6w/kg. I just did a quick check of a handful of phones currently on the market and it looks like we are currently capping. I saw 5G has the 6-7Ghz range reserved as well. Thats probably more feasible, but they are still going to need to invest a good amount of money into making that an option. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FlLj3vhc.png&t=665&c=rEweocJ1mGxF6A)
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I think that we are going to find that 5G is really an ASIC rapid switching mechanism that can switch frequencies and "directions" in rapid ways never seen before. The technology is newer than Bitcoin, just as ASICs are newer than Bitcoin. Once AI is applied (a joining not yet developed), who knows what the possibilities will be? Right now when you drive out of the city into the country, like many miles away from highly populated areas with their highly populated RF communications, you can feel the relaxed feeling. It's not just that you are in a beautiful spot in nature, enjoying the scenery. It's that you are away from the concentrated radiation. Think of what it will be like in the city when the radio waves are 100 times what they are now. And that's just the start. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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... Right now when you drive out of the city into the country, like many miles away from highly populated areas with their highly populated RF communications, you can feel the relaxed feeling. It's not just that you are in a beautiful spot in nature, enjoying the scenery. It's that you are away from the concentrated radiation. Think of what it will be like in the city when the radio waves are 100 times what they are now.
And that's just the start.
Actually, that's the smart.
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^^^ Buy your country land now. Once people from the big cities realize what is happening to them with all that focused 5G, they will move to the country. You could make a killing off them buying your land from you. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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My understandings, beliefs: - 5G is to work on MIMO principle with very many more 'towers' scattered around. Like on every other person's house. - The technologies include beam forming and beam bouncing. - In order to get around the regulatory issues associated with energy-per-unit-area, several techniques are used: - average over a longer period of time (a common form of scientific fraud.) - throw caution to the wind, the regulations in the trash, and don't bother with safety testing (so brags Tom Wheeler.) The 'spec' is to operate on a wide range of frequencies up into the 80 Ghz ranges I mentioned. I think it is safe to assume that the hardware will be capable of operating in those frequency ranges if instructed to do so by code. The null hypothesis is also possible. That is, that they cannot meet the entire specification. Again, if the device is 'hacked', it will run whatever code the 'hacker' inserts. I'm not sure if anyone has ever tried to get the circuitry (which is currently a bone of contention resulting in the U.S. vs. China Huawei kerfuffle) 'open' so that independent parties can evaluate it. I doubt that they would have much luck even if they did. We can hope that the FCC is evaluating the hardware capabilities and software implementations with an eye toward public safety, but I think it is being to hopeful in light of the fact that the FCC chairman already said in no uncertain terms that the FCC doesn't give two fucks about safety are research, and that it is important to just let industry do what they do as fast as they can do it. As it is hard to punch through walls at 50 Ghz, the power levels at a 'pulse' might be jacked up to a high level. As long as the pulse duration are a small fraction of total time, the total 'watts per square whatever' can be well within regulatory and 'assumed safe' levels if you crunch the numbers in a certain way. --- When I crunched the number a while ago out of general interest, I did not see that the 100 Ghz wavelengths were in the 'atmospheric molecule' ranges, but maybe I did the maths wrong. What I was trying to figure out was where these wavelengths in the range were the size ranges of the amorphous aluminum hydroxyphosphate sulfate adjuvant which Merck uses in their Gardasil vaccines among others. They hold the patent. The reason this interested me is because it is a scientific fact that these nano-size particles, when injected into the blood stream, cross the blood brain barrier and can cross the cell membrane into neurons themselves. Especially if the vaccine contains detergents which interfere with the lipid layers which make the blood-brain barrier effective. (An they do.) I was just kinda interested because it seemed to me that 5G with it's EHF frequencies and high peak pulse power levels, might be able to have an impact on a brain which was full of nano-sized aluminum particles. I don't 'know' one way or another, but it seems highly plausible at the very least.
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^^^ Buy your country land now. Once people from the big cities realize what is happening to them with all that focused 5G, they will move to the country. You could make a killing off them buying your land from you.
Tom Wheeler promises that 'rural areas will not be left out of the 5G revolution', so living in the country will not get you away from 'the towers'. Rural areas are more prone to have shotgun slugs flying around though, and the smartmeters are not bullet proof to the best of my knowledge. Not yet anyway.
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The EMF radiation from various non human sources accounts for nearly all radiation humans are exposed to. (If you look up charts, they'll say its about 50% but it assumes two X-Rays per year dental or medical which accounts for ~240/610 yearly average mRem) If you want to move out to the countryside to avoid radiation, be sure the elevation isn't too low or too high and check the naturally forming radon and such in your area. Also, you'll want to go above the 45th parallel to avoid peak sun intensity. That aside, I'll be right with you guys protesting if it happens, but I doubt it will. They'll probably end up using a sub 8 Ghz frequency. If you are going to invest in relay equipment at close proximity, it doesn't especially matter which wavelength you use. Wifi would be just as effective as superDlux5.1G if you had enough infrastructure supporting it, its just expensive to set that up so we don't have it. This is just from Wikipedia, but I'll do the calculation myself tomorrow to confirm. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extremely_high_frequency
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