Trust flags

[marlboroza]

@Eddie I will try to do my best to answer your questions, sorry for late response.

Do you think that he did anything wrong

It was unethical. I don't like sting operations.

or just that it doesn't perfectly fit the definition of the flag?

It does not. There was no contract.

Would you consider it untrustworthy behavior regardless of any technical flag language?

I can only say that I would not share any info with bob. I also think it is good that some accounts are exposed, especially that account with green trust.

Hm....can you understand this?

[mindrust]

I can only say that I would not share any illegal info with bob.

He'll turn you in to the police in no time. Don't share your joints with Bob123.

Sorry bob no cigs for you.

Edit:fixed, he didn't say that.

[bob123]

I can only say that I would not share any illegal info with bob.

He'll turn you in to the police in no time. Don't share your joints with Bob123.

Sorry bob no cigs for you.

I don't care about your joints if you don't use them to scam other people 
If you don't harm other people and don't provide things which others can use to harm other people.. whatever   

[suchmoon]

What's the policy on trust flag spam? This user seems to be determined to test it:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1096223

[TMAN]

What's the policy on trust flag spam? This user seems to be determined to test it:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1096223

Brilliant. That’s some determination there for a pajeet. Just another example of how the system is pretty shit

[malevolent]

Probably the same as with Trust feedback? Either never removed or only if used to spam the same user with the same feedback. Korner is a nobody so it's not like his feedback/flags matter at all anyway.

[suchmoon]

Probably the same as with Trust feedback? Either never removed or only if used to spam the same user with the same feedback. Korner is a nobody so it's not like his feedback/flags matter at all anyway.

There is a time limit before you can create another flag for the same user, so that kind of spam won't exist with flags... I guess korner is gonna have to slow down at 98 (current activity).

- Per 180 days, you can only give 1 flag of each type to a given user. So you can't give someone multiple written-contract-violation flags in 180 days, for example.
 - Globally, per year you can only create 1 flag per activity point you have, but at least 1/year.

[malevolent]

True, it was probably introduced to cut down on spam. Best the could do is keep creating alt accounts if he's that bored.

[suchmoon]

True, it was probably introduced to cut down on spam. Best the could do is keep creating alt accounts if he's that bored.

Well, it's your fault now for giving him the idea

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2544811
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2618696

Creating bogus flags with alts.

[LoyceV]

What's the policy on trust flag spam? This user seems to be determined to test it:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1096223

He's been busy
He's even spamming Archival with Flag topics. I think there should be a consequence (ban?). He's indirectly spamming my Trust Flag viewer! If theymos is going to delete the flags, I'll need to update my Flag viewer for that.

These are all the flags he created (with fresly updated Support/Opposition):
2019-07-05 Fri 19.45h
source: loyce.club
316 Insufficient support. korner flagged Veleor (type 1, see why). Supported by korner, reckon, Sorbent. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon, yogg, nutildah, Lafu, Last of the V8s, LeGaulois, TheFuzzStone, MaoChao, xtraelv, chimk, witcher_sense, Alex_Sr, madnessteat, DIKUL, FontSeli, logfiles, VyachikO, DabLjat, IMadeYouReadThis.

317 Insufficient support. korner flagged WEX-OFFICIAL (type 1, see why). Supported by korner, reckon, Sorbent. Opposed by nobody.

318 Insufficient support. korner flagged btc-e.com (type 1, see why). Supported by korner, reckon, Sorbent. Opposed by nobody.

324 Insufficient support. korner flagged Balthazar (type 1, see why). Supported by korner, reckon, Sorbent. Opposed by nobody.

325 Insufficient support. korner flagged Foxpup (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon, xandry, yogg, kzv, Lafu, Last of the V8s, TheFuzzStone, MaoChao, bob123, xtraelv, chimk, witcher_sense, Alex_Sr, madnessteat, FontSeli, VyachikO, DabLjat.

326 Insufficient support. korner flagged kzv (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon, xandry, yogg, TMAN, Last of the V8s, TheFuzzStone, MaoChao, bob123, xtraelv, chimk, witcher_sense, Alex_Sr, madnessteat, DIKUL, FontSeli, VyachikO, DabLjat.

327 Insufficient support. korner flagged Lafu (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon, xandry, yogg, kzv, Lafu, Last of the V8s, TheFuzzStone, MaoChao, bob123, xtraelv, witcher_sense, pandukelana2712, Alex_Sr, taikuri13, madnessteat, FontSeli, VyachikO.

328 Insufficient support. korner flagged TheFuzzStone (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon, xandry, yogg, kzv, TMAN, Last of the V8s, MaoChao, bob123, xtraelv, witcher_sense, Alex_Sr, taikuri13, madnessteat, DIKUL, FontSeli, VyachikO, DabLjat.

329 Insufficient support. korner flagged MaoChao (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon, xandry, yogg, kzv, Last of the V8s, TheFuzzStone, bob123, xtraelv, chimk, witcher_sense, Alex_Sr, taikuri13, madnessteat, DIKUL, FontSeli, VyachikO, DabLjat.

330 Insufficient support. korner flagged Alex_Sr (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon, xandry, yogg, kzv, TMAN, Last of the V8s, TheFuzzStone, MaoChao, xtraelv, witcher_sense, Alex_Sr, taikuri13, madnessteat, DIKUL, FontSeli, VyachikO, DabLjat.

331 Insufficient support. korner flagged xandry (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon, xandry, yogg, kzv, Last of the V8s, LeGaulois, TheFuzzStone, MaoChao, xtraelv, chimk, witcher_sense, Alex_Sr, madnessteat, DIKUL, MoxnatyShmel, FontSeli, VyachikO, DabLjat.

332 Insufficient support. korner flagged Xal0lex (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon, yogg, kzv, Last of the V8s, TheFuzzStone, MaoChao, xtraelv, witcher_sense, pandukelana2712, Alex_Sr, madnessteat, DIKUL, FontSeli, VyachikO, DabLjat.

333 Insufficient support. korner flagged LZ (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon, xandry, yogg, kzv, Last of the V8s, TheFuzzStone, MaoChao, xtraelv, witcher_sense, Alex_Sr, madnessteat, DIKUL, FontSeli, VyachikO, DabLjat.

334 Insufficient support. korner flagged madnessteat (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon, xandry, yogg, kzv, Last of the V8s, MaoChao, xtraelv, witcher_sense, Alex_Sr, madnessteat, DIKUL, FontSeli, VyachikO, DabLjat.

335 Insufficient support. korner flagged micgoossens (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon, xandry, yogg, kzv, Last of the V8s, TheFuzzStone, MaoChao, xtraelv, witcher_sense, Alex_Sr, madnessteat, FontSeli, VyachikO.

336 Insufficient support. korner flagged witcher_sense (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon, xandry, yogg, kzv, Last of the V8s, TheFuzzStone, MaoChao, xtraelv, chimk, witcher_sense, Alex_Sr, madnessteat, DIKUL, FontSeli, VyachikO, DabLjat.

337 Insufficient support. korner flagged pandukelana2712 (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon, xandry, yogg, kzv, Last of the V8s, TheFuzzStone, MaoChao, xtraelv, pandukelana2712, Alex_Sr, madnessteat, FontSeli, VyachikO.

338 Insufficient support. korner flagged DIKUL (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon, xandry, yogg, kzv, Last of the V8s, TheFuzzStone, MaoChao, xtraelv, witcher_sense, Alex_Sr, madnessteat, FontSeli, VyachikO, DabLjat.

339 Insufficient support. korner flagged FontSeli (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon, xandry, yogg, kzv, Last of the V8s, LeGaulois, TheFuzzStone, MaoChao, xtraelv, witcher_sense, Alex_Sr, madnessteat, DIKUL, FontSeli, VyachikO, DabLjat.

340 Insufficient support. korner flagged DabLjat (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon, xandry, yogg, kzv, Last of the V8s, LeGaulois, TheFuzzStone, MaoChao, xtraelv, witcher_sense, Alex_Sr, madnessteat, DIKUL, FontSeli, VyachikO, DabLjat.

341 Insufficient support. korner flagged johhnyUA (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon, xandry, yogg, kzv, Last of the V8s, LeGaulois, TheFuzzStone, MaoChao, xtraelv, chimk, witcher_sense, Alex_Sr, madnessteat, DIKUL, FontSeli, VyachikO.

342 Insufficient support. korner flagged IMadeYouReadThis (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon, xandry, yogg, kzv, Last of the V8s, TheFuzzStone, MaoChao, xtraelv, witcher_sense, Alex_Sr, madnessteat, FontSeli, VyachikO.

343 Insufficient support. korner flagged icopress (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon, xandry, yogg, kzv, Last of the V8s, LeGaulois, TheFuzzStone, MaoChao, xtraelv, witcher_sense, Alex_Sr, madnessteat, FontSeli, VyachikO.

344 Insufficient support. korner flagged mosprognoz (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon, xandry, yogg, kzv, Last of the V8s, LeGaulois, TheFuzzStone, MaoChao, xtraelv, witcher_sense, Alex_Sr, madnessteat, FontSeli, VyachikO.

345 Insufficient support. korner flagged bambarmia Banned! (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon, xandry, yogg, kzv, Last of the V8s, LeGaulois, TheFuzzStone, MaoChao, xtraelv, witcher_sense, madnessteat, FontSeli, VyachikO.

346 Insufficient support. korner flagged suchmoon (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, xandry, yogg, kzv, TMAN, Last of the V8s, LeGaulois, TheFuzzStone, MaoChao, xtraelv, witcher_sense, Alex_Sr, taikuri13, madnessteat, DIKUL, FontSeli, VyachikO, DabLjat.

347 Insufficient support. korner flagged Lauda (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon, xandry, yogg, kzv, TMAN, Last of the V8s, LeGaulois, TheFuzzStone, MaoChao, xtraelv, witcher_sense, pandukelana2712, Alex_Sr, madnessteat, FontSeli, VyachikO, DabLjat.

348 Insufficient support. korner flagged nutildah (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon, xandry, yogg, nutildah, kzv, Last of the V8s, LeGaulois, TheFuzzStone, MaoChao, xtraelv, witcher_sense, Alex_Sr, madnessteat, FontSeli, VyachikO.

349 Insufficient support. korner flagged The Pharmacist (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon, xandry, yogg, kzv, TMAN, Last of the V8s, LeGaulois, TheFuzzStone, MaoChao, xtraelv, witcher_sense, Alex_Sr, madnessteat, FontSeli, VyachikO, DabLjat.

350 Insufficient support. korner flagged rhomelmabini (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon, xandry, yogg, kzv, Last of the V8s, LeGaulois, TheFuzzStone, MaoChao, xtraelv, madnessteat, FontSeli, VyachikO.

351 Insufficient support. korner flagged penek (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon, xandry, yogg, kzv, Last of the V8s, TheFuzzStone, MaoChao, xtraelv, witcher_sense, madnessteat, FontSeli, VyachikO.

352 Insufficient support. korner flagged leo99 (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon, xandry, yogg, Last of the V8s, TheFuzzStone, MaoChao, madnessteat, FontSeli, VyachikO.

353 Insufficient support. korner flagged yogg (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon, TMAN, Last of the V8s, LeGaulois, TheFuzzStone, MaoChao, pandukelana2712, Alex_Sr, madnessteat, FontSeli, VyachikO.

356 Insufficient support. korner flagged Marina Uni (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon, Last of the V8s, Alex_Sr[/size].

357 Insufficient support. korner flagged LiveCoin (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup[/size].

358 Insufficient support. korner flagged mtgox (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup[/size].

359 Insufficient support. korner flagged ne0n (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup[/size].

360 Insufficient support. korner flagged WME (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup[/size].

361 Insufficient support. korner flagged markiz73 Banned! (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon[/size].

[LoyceV]

362 Insufficient support. korner flagged markiz731 (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon, Last of the V8s[/size].

363 Insufficient support. korner flagged Harlot (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon, Last of the V8s[/size].

364 Insufficient support. korner flagged VyachikO (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon[/size].

365 Insufficient support. korner flagged Last of the V8s (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon[/size].

366 Insufficient support. korner flagged boltalka (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by nobody.

367 Insufficient support. korner flagged Piston Honda (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon[/size].

368 Insufficient support. korner flagged LeGaulois (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon, Last of the V8s[/size].

369 Insufficient support. korner flagged blurryeyed (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon[/size].

370 Insufficient support. korner flagged franckuestein (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon, Last of the V8s[/size].

371 Insufficient support. korner flagged power123456 (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by nobody.

373 Insufficient support. korner flagged WEX_OFFICIAL (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup[/size].

374 Insufficient support. korner flagged Sakasara (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon[/size].

375 Insufficient support. korner flagged Kryptoart (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon[/size].

376 Insufficient support. korner flagged anna.mayzus Banned! (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon[/size].

377 Insufficient support. korner flagged Sara Parker (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon[/size].

378 Insufficient support. korner flagged Scamer (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon[/size].

379 Insufficient support. korner flagged Skammer (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon[/size].

380 Insufficient support. korner flagged CKAMEP (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon[/size].

381 Insufficient support. korner flagged WORLD_EXCHANGE_SERVICES (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup[/size].

382 Insufficient support. korner flagged wex.com (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup[/size].

383 Insufficient support. korner flagged WEX-UNOFFICIAL Banned! (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by nobody.

384 Insufficient support. korner flagged btc-e.nz Banned! (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup[/size].

385 Insufficient support. korner flagged novacoin.org (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon[/size].

386 Insufficient support. korner flagged Trollface Banned! (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon[/size].

387 Insufficient support. korner flagged wex.nz Banned! (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by nobody.

388 Insufficient support. korner flagged cashberycoin.com Banned! (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon[/size].

389 Insufficient support. korner flagged Werosim (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon[/size].

390 Insufficient support. korner flagged BitcoinFX (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon[/size].

391 Insufficient support. korner flagged Zloy Banned! (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon[/size].

392 Insufficient support. korner flagged Lex Voland (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon[/size].

393 Insufficient support. korner flagged Already exist (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon[/size].

394 Insufficient support. korner flagged wex.link (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by suchmoon[/size].

395 Insufficient support. korner flagged ya-just (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon[/size].

396 Insufficient support. korner flagged NOWEX.NZ (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon[/size].

397 Insufficient support. korner flagged chimk (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon, Last of the V8s, witcher_sense[/size].

398 Insufficient support. korner flagged Vadi2323 (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon[/size].

399 Insufficient support. korner flagged esmanthra (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon[/size].

400 Insufficient support. korner flagged klarki (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon[/size].

401 Insufficient support. korner flagged marlboroza (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon[/size].

402 Insufficient support. korner flagged xtraelv (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon[/size].

403 Insufficient support. korner flagged o_e_l_e_o (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon[/size].

404 Insufficient support. korner flagged taikuri13 (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon[/size].

405 Insufficient support. korner flagged Rooivalk (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon[/size].

406 Insufficient support. korner flagged 3meek (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon[/size].

407 Insufficient support. korner flagged deisik (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon[/size].

408 Insufficient support. korner flagged Noads (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon[/size].

409 Insufficient support. korner flagged researcher194 (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon[/size].

410 Insufficient support. korner flagged liquid55 (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon[/size].

411 Insufficient support. korner flagged becool (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon[/size].

412 Insufficient support. korner flagged recusant2000 (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon[/size].

413 Insufficient support. korner flagged prizrak73 (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon[/size].

414 Insufficient support. korner flagged viktor.alekseevich.1979 (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon[/size].

415 Insufficient support. korner flagged Cryder (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon[/size].

416 Insufficient support. korner flagged The0ldl_lser (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon[/size].

417 Insufficient support. korner flagged Bazillio (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon[/size].

418 Insufficient support. korner flagged FAN (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon[/size].

419 Insufficient support. korner flagged alpet (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon[/size].

420 Insufficient support. korner flagged babo (type 1, see why). Supported by korner. Opposed by Foxpup, suchmoon, babo[/size].

[malevolent]

Well, it's your fault now for giving him the idea

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2544811
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2618696

Creating bogus flags with alts.

Well, shit 

If these accounts can be confirmed to be his alts with 100% certainty then maybe that qualifies as spam worthy of being removed, maybe theymos could chime in.

[TryNinja]

On a side note, does this really matter when his flags will never get activated since he's not on DT, and even if they are supported by anyone, they can simple by removed from DT?

This already happened all the time in the old trust system.

[suchmoon]

If these accounts can be confirmed to be his alts with 100% certainty then maybe that qualifies as spam worthy of being removed, maybe theymos could chime in.

IIRC there is strong circumstantial evidence but not 100%. Theymos and/or cryptios might have more to go on.

On a side note, does this really matter when his flags will never get activated since he's not on DT, and even if they are supported by anyone, they can simple by removed from DT?

This already happened all the time in the old trust system.

Kinda sorta. With this new lottery-based DT1 you never know when someone might include him or one of his (possibly not yet known) alts, and the flags aren't as visible to regular DT members as the old red trust used to be - merely a "#" next to the trust score. So I went through those garbage flags and opposed them all just in case, and Foxpup did the same.

[Veleor]

What's the policy on trust flag spam? This user seems to be determined to test it:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1096223

He's been busy
He's even spamming Archival with Flag topics. <...>

"The most compelling arguments" for flags I have ever seen.

Flag for Trollface

Reason: Troll

Flag for Skammer

Reason: Scammer

Flags #386, #379

IIRC there is strong circumstantial evidence but not 100%. Theymos and/or cryptios might have more to go on. <...>

Taking into account the user's own confession and dates of passwords changes, I believe that proof of ban evasion is 100%.

1. korner admitted in the Russian section that he used a banned profile wex.nz:

<...> Кaк клaccнo я пoвeceлилcя и пoyгapaл c вac изoбpaжaя "wex.nz". <...>

(Archive)

Translation:

<...> I had so much fun and laughed at you by posing as "wex.nz". <...>

In another comment, korner states that he warned all people in advance about scam of WEX exchange and then, in support of this claim, korner quotes a user wex.nz:

<...> Я тyт вcex пpeдyпpeждaю o гoтoвящимcя cкaмe aж в 2017

Дoнocим дo вaшeгo cвeдeния чтo пpoизoшeл идeйный pacкoл в кoмaндe WEX

<...>

(Archive)


2. Both profiles have the same dates of changed passwords:

korner -  Security/Moderator Log

Code:

08/25/2018 9:04:57 AM 	    	password changed
10/27/2018 5:08:48 AM 	    	password changed

wex.nz - Security/Moderator Log

Code:

08/25/2018 08:32:37 AM 	    	password changed
10/27/2018 05:28:53 AM 	    	password changed

I believe that another alt of korner is user CKAMEP which confirmed in Russian as well that he owned the banned account wex.nz.

The original message of CKAMEP has been deleted, therefore a quote is given:

<...> Ктo нe вepит - мoгy дoкaзaть и зaлoгинитcя в wex.nz (зaбaнeн), пишитe в л/c <...>

<...>

Translation:

<...> Who doesn't believe - I can prove it and login to wex.nz (banned), write a PM <...>

CKAMEP also has changed the password at the same day with korner and wex.nz.

CKAMEP - Security/Moderator Log

Code:

10/27/2018 7:41:01 AM 	password changed

[suchmoon]

korner's been (temp?) banned.

[IMadeYouReadThis]

~

Thank you LoyceV for this effort of highlighting this abusive flags, also it's great to see DTs taking efforts in opposing those, its an hell lot of work really !

korner's been (temp?) banned.

That sound's better, I also think the above flags started by him should be deleted by administration manually as said, the flag are not visible on the profile to the DT members to be opposed.

[xtraelv]

Probably the same as with Trust feedback? Either never removed or only if used to spam the same user with the same feedback. Korner is a nobody so it's not like his feedback/flags matter at all anyway.

He may be a no-body but the way the DT system is currently working he may be DT in no time. There have been quite a few dubious users promoted to DT since the new system was introduced.

The other issue that occurs is that he appears to be randomly tagging people with flags while also randomly giving positive trust to others.

e.g. Cryptodevil he gave positive trust "friendship". I'm sure he is not Cryptodevils "friend".



While he also has tagged most of the DTs with flags

But he also tagged some scammers with flags.

While the known people will probably have their flags opposed - it is the lesser known people that may not get any support or may even get their flag supported in the confusion.

Likewise some scammers may get their flag opposed because they got flagged by a troll.



I personally received one of his flags. While I don't take ist seriously - he blatantly lied in the reason he gave.. I am not and have never been a merit source.


Which is not surprising from an account that is evading a ban and impersonated a moderator.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1096223

It appears that xtraelv, suchmoon, LFC_Bitcoin, marlboroza are all abusing their positions in opposing flag #292 that is clearly valid based solely on evidence admitted to by the accused.

All of the above should be blacklisted from DT1/2

It appears that you are supporting a flag created by someone that appears to have violated the specific conditions of the alleged agreement. (i.e. trying to sell a hacked account)

As I said, that proves nothing because of VPNs. I could do whatever you or anybody else here wants, there will always be somebody saying: "But this is still no evidence, do this and do that!" This will be a
never ending story. I'm the real zackie and this account is not for sale. Believe it or not, I don't care.

Have you checked https://bitcointalk.org/myips.php ? You have only 30 days to see the account thief's IP address.

Holy crap! Thanks for that link. Here is the result:

2019-06-25 18:52:29   2019-06-25 19:53:15   xx.xxx.xxx.xx   XXXXXXXx, Germany
2019-06-24 22:00:53   2019-06-24 22:01:56   xxxx:xx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx   XXXXXXXX, Germany
2019-06-24 20:03:48   2019-06-24 20:52:38   xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx    XXXXXXX, Germany
2019-06-19 09:38:21   2019-06-20 14:02:48   42.201.183.65   Karachi, Pakistan

Indeed, somebody from Pakistan used my account!

But hey, you know.... I could have used a VPN....

We are talking about trying to sell a hacked account.

The claim from the OP was:

He made an agreement for both of us that he will buy the account if we prove ownership and use SebastianJu as an escrow if proved that the accounts is within our hands and we are not scammers by sending a message to him which trustedseller has done but he broke the agreement/contract and compromised a confidential information about our transaction.

[Quickseller]

It appears that xtraelv, suchmoon, LFC_Bitcoin, marlboroza are all abusing their positions in opposing flag #292 that is clearly valid based solely on evidence admitted to by the accused.

All of the above should be blacklisted from DT1/2

It appears that you are supporting a flag created by someone that appears to have violated the specific conditions of the alleged agreement. (i.e. trying to sell a hacked account)

The agreement is not alleged, the screenshots posted by bob (who is the accused) document him agreeing to purchase the forum accounts in question upon receipt of a PM, which he received. Bob has confirmed that he had no intention of completing the purchase despite his promise to do so. The account that is "hacked" has not proven to be hacked, nor was it part of the specific agreement bob violated.

[malevolent]

He may be a no-body but the way the DT system is currently working he may be DT in no time. There have been quite a few dubious users promoted to DT since the new system was introduced.

The other issue that occurs is that he appears to be randomly tagging people with flags while also randomly giving positive trust to others.

I wouldn't worry too much, it's enough if more DT1 members distrust him than trust him: http://loyce.club/trust/2019-07-06_Sat_10.00h/1096223.html

If that magically doesn't suffice, theymos may also blacklist him from DT1 selection in the worst case.