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December 25, 2021, 09:38:14 PM
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Sometimes a team can change their performance, so we cannot judge Liverpool will beat Inter Milan easily because Inter didn't look good in the group stage. Basically, Inter Milan has many talented players in their squad, they probably can make Liverpool players be in trouble if they play with their best. But if we consider the quality of the coach, Liverpool should be better. Jürgen Klopp is an experienced and smart coach who always made a difference during the match. While Inter Milan coach, looks to have less experience, especially in the UCL league.

That's true, in football anything can happen. That's true, in football anything can happen. For example, Bayer Munich, this season lost in the German Cup, with Monchengladbach by 5-0.

Now, taking into account that it will be a two-legged game, as much as Inter may try to surprise, overall Liverpool are superior. It will be very difficult for Inter to play against Liverpool, it can happen, but I think it's difficult.

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December 25, 2021, 09:50:35 PM
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Sometimes a team can change their performance, so we cannot judge Liverpool will beat Inter Milan easily because Inter didn't look good in the group stage. Basically, Inter Milan has many talented players in their squad, they probably can make Liverpool players be in trouble if they play with their best. But if we consider the quality of the coach, Liverpool should be better. Jürgen Klopp is an experienced and smart coach who always made a difference during the match. While Inter Milan coach, looks to have less experience, especially in the UCL league.
At the moment everyone seems to be saying Liverpool are the favourites, but considering the last 16 match will be played in February, let's pray that both teams can play without any problems as Covid cases continue to rise in England.

Having Salah in the team has made a lot of people seem very confident that Liverpool will win easily against Inter but anything is still possible for both teams as all players in the Premier League at the moment are at greater risk of getting covid so if Salah had to leave because of covid then the situation would be changed. Let's see what this team can do during January, there is a possibility that the English team will experience a bit of fatigue with a lot of match.

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December 26, 2021, 09:12:46 AM
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Sometimes a team can change their performance, so we cannot judge Liverpool will beat Inter Milan easily because Inter didn't look good in the group stage. Basically, Inter Milan has many talented players in their squad, they probably can make Liverpool players be in trouble if they play with their best. But if we consider the quality of the coach, Liverpool should be better. Jürgen Klopp is an experienced and smart coach who always made a difference during the match. While Inter Milan coach, looks to have less experience, especially in the UCL league.
At the moment everyone seems to be saying Liverpool are the favourites, but considering the last 16 match will be played in February, let's pray that both teams can play without any problems as Covid cases continue to rise in England.

Having Salah in the team has made a lot of people seem very confident that Liverpool will win easily against Inter but anything is still possible for both teams as all players in the Premier League at the moment are at greater risk of getting covid so if Salah had to leave because of covid then the situation would be changed. Let's see what this team can do during January, there is a possibility that the English team will experience a bit of fatigue with a lot of match.
I hope all team can play without any problem like Covid 19 and all player must be fit on champion league begin middle week of February, still many change of player composition team because few days later window transfer opening although still looks lonely about which one player will move from one club to other club. How ever Liverpool right now as favorite can pass next stage faced with Inter Milan but never forget what pandemic happening right now make player composition changed, maybe have few important player from Liverpool get covid 19 and can give change different result.

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December 26, 2021, 09:31:35 AM
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Ralph Rangnick is a great coach (manager).  

He is both a practitioner and a theorist.  This is the German approach to coaching - pedantry, organization, high dedication.  He is obsessed with coaching.  Players under his leadership realize themselves 100 percent.  The game will be systemic.  

Each player will become a soldier who will contribute to the victory of the football team.  United will become one of the most organized football teams.  

Active pressure from attacking players is the main feature of Ralph Rangnick's coaching work.

It would be really perfect to see the Manchester United players abiding by certain rules and achieving big successes thanks to Rangnick. But this would take some time of course. Because Rangnick would like to apply the German discipline which is not a thing that Manchester United are familiar with. But if he manages to become successful about this, then we might start watching a much stronger team. I really want to see Manchester United coming back to their old good days as soon as possible.
It's undeniable that Manchester United need a coach like in the Sir Alex Ferguson era, and I see that figure now in Ralf Rangnick. Now Ralf Rangnick is contracted for only half a season. Hopefully Ralf Rangnick gives the best results for Manchester United so that management can extend his contract to restore the glory days of Manchester United.

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December 26, 2021, 07:08:36 PM
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Considering this possibility, there is an idea to make a long-term bet on the underdog right now. The coefficient per underdog should not fall much lower even if there is in quarantine. But the coefficient for the favorite will rise greatly if the quarantine happens there. Thus, if this happens, then you can make a counter bet to your first bet and be guaranteed to be in the black. Hmm ... I think this is an interesting idea.
It would be very profitable to do that but now it seems that if this happens it will be very difficult to predict which team is suitable for placing bets, on the other hand this is an advantage for teams in other leagues which are still very safe compared to the EPL which in fact now it is in a dangerous stage because there are already several clubs that have been affected by covid and it is not impossible that things like this will continue there.

To understand which team is worth betting on (which team is most susceptible to quarantine or something similar), you just need to remember where we saw the most insane covid restrictions. I think it's obvious that these are England, Italy and Germany. Considering that as many as 7 clubs from these countries play in the 1/8 finals, the choice is quite good.
Thank you for the advice you gave.
this is indeed risky but it never hurts to try because indeed if you look at the data and facts that are currently available, of course this is something very good to pay attention to.
On the other hand, there may be surprises when the restrictions and quarantine are still in effect.
but on the other hand it is also very difficult to predict how it will go because even if it is profitable for betting it is not profitable to watch

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December 26, 2021, 07:46:56 PM
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One of the things I'm curious about is whether Chelsea would become the winner of the Champions League two times in a row. But it doesn't seem to me like a big possibility. Even in the last season, it was surprising for most people to see Chelsea winning the Champions League title. Because teams like PSG, Manchester City etc. were performing much bigger than them. But they had a very great discipline that they still were the champions at the end.

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December 26, 2021, 09:04:11 PM
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One of the things I'm curious about is whether Chelsea would become the winner of the Champions League two times in a row. But it doesn't seem to me like a big possibility. Even in the last season, it was surprising for most people to see Chelsea winning the Champions League title. Because teams like PSG, Manchester City etc. were performing much bigger than them. But they had a very great discipline that they still were the champions at the end.

I can bet everything against Chelsea winning the Champions League this year,well of course this is just a saying which means that I highly doubt they can win this season.The reason is quite simple,most of the other teams are much stronger than Chelsea is,luck can not always be by your side.For example if Chelsea can face PSG eventually they based on the players quality most likely will easily win against Chelsea.Rather than discipline it was luck but also discipline in the critical games.Nah I doubt it will happen again.

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One of the things I'm curious about is whether Chelsea would become the winner of the Champions League two times in a row. But it doesn't seem to me like a big possibility. Even in the last season, it was surprising for most people to see Chelsea winning the Champions League title. Because teams like PSG, Manchester City etc. were performing much bigger than them. But they had a very great discipline that they still were the champions at the end.

I didn't even think it was possible for Chelsea to become champions last year, but they did. They are really very disciplined. I'm not giving the same odds this year, but I wouldn't be surprised if they become champions again. Currently in the premier league. It's really difficult for Chelsea to become champions this year. PSG and Manchester city will really push all opponents.
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One of the things I'm curious about is whether Chelsea would become the winner of the Champions League two times in a row. But it doesn't seem to me like a big possibility. Even in the last season, it was surprising for most people to see Chelsea winning the Champions League title. Because teams like PSG, Manchester City etc. were performing much bigger than them. But they had a very great discipline that they still were the champions at the end.

I can bet everything against Chelsea winning the Champions League this year,well of course this is just a saying which means that I highly doubt they can win this season.The reason is quite simple,most of the other teams are much stronger than Chelsea is,luck can not always be by your side.For example if Chelsea can face PSG eventually they based on the players quality most likely will easily win against Chelsea.Rather than discipline it was luck but also discipline in the critical games.Nah I doubt it will happen again.
Even though it is true that Chelsea are quite superior in the last 16 now but I think the next phase will be more difficult because there are indeed fewer teams and on average it is definitely a very strong team.
What you did by betting entirely on chelsea is actually not wrong but there must be a careful calculation with this coupled with the performance of chelsea which incidentally the players are still being hit by a storm of injuries

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One of the things I'm curious about is whether Chelsea would become the winner of the Champions League two times in a row. But it doesn't seem to me like a big possibility. Even in the last season, it was surprising for most people to see Chelsea winning the Champions League title. Because teams like PSG, Manchester City etc. were performing much bigger than them. But they had a very great discipline that they still were the champions at the end.
I didn't even think it was possible for Chelsea to become champions last year, but they did. They are really very disciplined. I'm not giving the same odds this year, but I wouldn't be surprised if they become champions again. Currently in the premier league. It's really difficult for Chelsea to become champions this year. PSG and Manchester city will really push all opponents.
Actually, Paris Saint-Germain himself should win against Real Madrid and I would not call Paris Saint-Germain the undisputed favorite of this pair Wink Of course, it will be very difficult for Chelsea to repeat their success and win the Champions League again, because in addition to the above pair, there are still such clubs as Bayern, Liverpool, Manchester City, which look at least no worse and even better in some ways, and both English clubs are ahead of Chelsea in the Premier League. If Manchester City is ahead of Chelsea in points scored, then Liverpool is ahead in lost points. However, the current rival of Chelsea, which is Lille, is not so popular and here it is Chelsea who comes out as a clear favorite to reach the next round.
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One of the things I'm curious about is whether Chelsea would become the winner of the Champions League two times in a row. But it doesn't seem to me like a big possibility. Even in the last season, it was surprising for most people to see Chelsea winning the Champions League title. Because teams like PSG, Manchester City etc. were performing much bigger than them. But they had a very great discipline that they still were the champions at the end.
Chelsea's performance lately have been unstable, and it will be very difficult for them to win the Champion League trophy again this season. Although, am not underestimating them, this is Football and anything can happen. But, I don't think they can probably be the winner this season. However, their Round 16 matches will be against Lille. While in terms of squad strength, Chelsea are more stronger compared to Lille, which means if Chelsea are well prepared. They will surely beat Lille.



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Chelsea's performance lately have been unstable, and it will be very difficult for them to win the Champion League trophy again this season. Although, am not underestimating them, this is Football and anything can happen. But, I don't think they can probably be the winner this season. However, their Round 16 matches will be against Lille. While in terms of squad strength, Chelsea are more stronger compared to Lille, which means if Chelsea are well prepared. They will surely beat Lille.

I think Chelsea's advantage is that, the next game will be against Lille. Last year, they only started to have good games in the finals of the season, the same can happen now. So, with a more accessible game for this stage of the season, you can help your growth.

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Chelsea's performance lately have been unstable, and it will be very difficult for them to win the Champion League trophy again this season. Although, am not underestimating them, this is Football and anything can happen. But, I don't think they can probably be the winner this season. However, their Round 16 matches will be against Lille. While in terms of squad strength, Chelsea are more stronger compared to Lille, which means if Chelsea are well prepared. They will surely beat Lille.

I think Chelsea's advantage is that, the next game will be against Lille. Last year, they only started to have good games in the finals of the season, the same can happen now. So, with a more accessible game for this stage of the season, you can help your growth.

We must also not forget that Chelsea are simply the reigning cup holders in this tournament. Last season they certainly didn't start the tournament as favorites, but in the end they deserved to win. I'm not ruling out a surprise this year either. They also now have a favorable draw. You have to be lucky with draw and then be at your best 2x against a good opponent. Chelsea used to play boring football, that has changed under Lampard and now under Tuchel, and it also delivers good performances.

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Chelsea's performance lately have been unstable, and it will be very difficult for them to win the Champion League trophy again this season. Although, am not underestimating them, this is Football and anything can happen. But, I don't think they can probably be the winner this season. However, their Round 16 matches will be against Lille. While in terms of squad strength, Chelsea are more stronger compared to Lille, which means if Chelsea are well prepared. They will surely beat Lille.
I would say that winning UCL twice in a row is a very very difficult task. It watered down in value recently because Real Madrid managed to do it three times in a row and that is why people imagine it as a possible thing but it is very very difficult. If you wagered on winning team to not win it again for the past 30 years, you would be right you would have been right every single time except that Real Madrid period. That is why it is quite important to realize Chelsea may not end up winning at all, because not many people have managed to do it.

By the looks of it City and PSG and Bayern are the big trio that will have the biggest chance this year, but same could be said for last year and we all know what happened there.

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December 27, 2021, 02:31:50 PM
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Chelsea's performance lately have been unstable, and it will be very difficult for them to win the Champion League trophy again this season. Although, am not underestimating them, this is Football and anything can happen. But, I don't think they can probably be the winner this season. However, their Round 16 matches will be against Lille. While in terms of squad strength, Chelsea are more stronger compared to Lille, which means if Chelsea are well prepared. They will surely beat Lille.
I would say that winning UCL twice in a row is a very very difficult task. It watered down in value recently because Real Madrid managed to do it three times in a row and that is why people imagine it as a possible thing but it is very very difficult. If you wagered on winning team to not win it again for the past 30 years, you would be right you would have been right every single time except that Real Madrid period. That is why it is quite important to realize Chelsea may not end up winning at all, because not many people have managed to do it.

By the looks of it City and PSG and Bayern are the big trio that will have the biggest chance this year, but same could be said for last year and we all know what happened there.
Even though this is a tough task, the coach must be able to bring it back to the Champions League final, whatever the opponent, it must be faced with a prepared squad, I know Chelsea is unstable but there is still a long time to restart the champions league with this time it can process with some recovery My players expect Chelsea to be stable again.
I know that only Madrid's record is in a row in trophies but the champion can be won by anyone. Other teams are also full of ambition to bring the UCL cup.

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By the looks of it City and PSG and Bayern are the big trio that will have the biggest chance this year, but same could be said for last year and we all know what happened there.
There are so many candidates for the title in the current team left, and I guessing who will win this season is still too far away. However, the teams from the Premier League and La Liga that I think have a chance to qualify for the final round. Can't guess the specific team yet, but there are opportunities for Liverpool and Madrid.

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December 27, 2021, 03:58:56 PM
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I would say that winning UCL twice in a row is a very very difficult task. It watered down in value recently because Real Madrid managed to do it three times in a row and that is why people imagine it as a possible thing but it is very very difficult. If you wagered on winning team to not win it again for the past 30 years, you would be right you would have been right every single time except that Real Madrid period. That is why it is quite important to realize Chelsea may not end up winning at all, because not many people have managed to do it.

It's hard, but it can happen. The last few games Chelsea have played not well. Say think it happened because some important players chelsea suffered injuries and covid-19. Call it Kante, he's injured and his role in the team hasn't been replaced properly. Chelsea have the power to win the UCL again and many of its supporting factors. They have a coach with experience. Then there will still be a transfer market used to close chelsea's weaknesses. I think Abramovic will give funds if Tuchel wants to spend new players.

By the looks of it City and PSG and Bayern are the big trio that will have the biggest chance this year, but same could be said for last year and we all know what happened there.

They looked convincing because their performance was good in the league. In addition maybe PSG are favourites because they have star players in the team. Have you forgotten Liverpol or madrid for champion?

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By the looks of it City and PSG and Bayern are the big trio that will have the biggest chance this year, but same could be said for last year and we all know what happened there.
There are so many candidates for the title in the current team left, and I guessing who will win this season is still too far away. However, the teams from the Premier League and La Liga that I think have a chance to qualify for the final round. Can't guess the specific team yet, but there are opportunities for Liverpool and Madrid.

^ Almost every team in this round is strong. It is difficult to predict which team will advance to the next round.

In particular, you said that Madrid has a chance to play in the final. However, Madrid's opponent in this round is PSG. Winning against a strong team like PSG is not easy for Madrid. PSG's goal is to win the Champions League. They have taken star players with lots of wages only for the Champions League.

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December 27, 2021, 07:04:13 PM
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I would say that winning UCL twice in a row is a very very difficult task. It watered down in value recently because Real Madrid managed to do it three times in a row and that is why people imagine it as a possible thing but it is very very difficult. If you wagered on winning team to not win it again for the past 30 years, you would be right you would have been right every single time except that Real Madrid period. That is why it is quite important to realize Chelsea may not end up winning at all, because not many people have managed to do it.

By the looks of it City and PSG and Bayern are the big trio that will have the biggest chance this year, but same could be said for last year and we all know what happened there.
As for Bayern and City, I agree with you they have a high chance of competing for the title, but as for Chelsea, I don't think they will be able to play in the final this year. But for Real, this task looks more real. Of course, this is only my subjective point of view, but Chelsea have failures in the game, and at the playoff stage, one mistake will be enough to stop further struggle.

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December 27, 2021, 07:10:02 PM
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Yes, Liverpool are the clear favorites in this pair, I will not bet but will root for it in hope it will raise the level of drama in every next round of the Champions League. In addition, I would like Salah to have more opportunities to show himself in the international arena, given the fact that he plays for the Egyptian national team, he does not have many opportunities relative to other players.

Liverpool are favorites against almost everyone. Bayern Munich and Manchester City are only clearly better at the moment. I think those two teams are more consistent than Liverpool. It is close to each other who will win in the end. Inter Milan individually does not have a super team, but certainly in Milan they can beat anyone. It will also have a lot of influence whether the audience is allowed to be present.

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Even against Real Madrid and PSG? I doubt it. These teams look pretty solid now. Liverpool can beat any team (and probably with any score) but it can also lose unexpectedly. It remains to be hoped that by February the next wave will be over and we will see full-fledged matches both with spectators and with optimal teams.
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