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December 23, 2021, 07:59:33 AM
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fact Atletico and Manchester United have never played in any tournament so far, so there is no head to head record for this match. History is not an exact benchmark, because of the different situations, conditions, squad and many other factors that will certainly make the past not the same as what will happen today and tomorrow. We just need to make sure the team's recent performances are clear, Atletico is in decline and vice versa, Manchester United which keeps getting better then at least it promises something good for Manchester United and not just about 1 or 2 players.

Comparing these two teams, I think Manchester United is a strong team. Atletico Madrid is not playing well. Their position in La Liga is also very weak. They have lost their last 4 matches in La Liga. Lost form in a very bad way. Atletico Madrid have no hope of winning the La Liga title. However, despite the improvement in performance, they will not be able to beat Manchester United. United are a very strong team.

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Following on from what I mentioned earlier, Real Madrid is almost 10 points ahead of the second-placed team in La Liga. If the rhythm is maintained, they will arrive at the game with PSG in a comfortable position in the Spanish league, being able to dedicate everything to this game.

PSG is also making good progress in the French championship, but it has had a less regular performance. It is the French league that is less competitive than the Spanish.

It's really going to be a very interesting game to watch.

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December 23, 2021, 10:29:36 AM
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Following on from what I mentioned earlier, Real Madrid is almost 10 points ahead of the second-placed team in La Liga. If the rhythm is maintained, they will arrive at the game with PSG in a comfortable position in the Spanish league, being able to dedicate everything to this game.

PSG is also making good progress in the French championship, but it has had a less regular performance. It is the French league that is less competitive than the Spanish.

It's really going to be a very interesting game to watch.

Real Madrid and PSG both will have a clear mind before this matchup if they go on like this in their domestic leagues. And it seems like this will really happen. Because both of them are at a very great position in their leagues right now. And they have big chances to become the champions there. But they don't aim only those titles of course. They both are aiming the CL title. We will see which one of them wants it more.

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December 23, 2021, 12:22:46 PM
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fact Atletico and Manchester United have never played in any tournament so far, so there is no head to head record for this match. History is not an exact benchmark, because of the different situations, conditions, squad and many other factors that will certainly make the past not the same as what will happen today and tomorrow. We just need to make sure the team's recent performances are clear, Atletico is in decline and vice versa, Manchester United which keeps getting better then at least it promises something good for Manchester United and not just about 1 or 2 players.

Comparing these two teams, I think Manchester United is a strong team. Atletico Madrid is not playing well. Their position in La Liga is also very weak. They have lost their last 4 matches in La Liga. Lost form in a very bad way. Atletico Madrid have no hope of winning the La Liga title. However, despite the improvement in performance, they will not be able to beat Manchester United. United are a very strong team.
Not as strong as imagined, if Atletico really come back and recover 100% then I would say Atletico have a better chance. The situation is different now, although Manchester United without Ronaldo I believe Manchester United still has a chance to win. I only consider that Atletico's condition which continues to decline is very different from Manchester United, conditions like this are clearly very unbalanced and I'm not saying Manchester United are a very strong team. It's about what kind of opponent they will face, because for me Atletico in the last few seasons had a good defense but this season they have been declining.

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December 23, 2021, 12:32:09 PM
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Atletico Madrid - Manchester United could be a really interesting matchup. Because there is not a big difference between them now in terms of strength. Atletico Madrid are very experienced when it comes to defending their opponents in critical matches. But they haven't been playing like themselves recently. They are in a really bad shape now as they have a losing streak of three matches in the La Liga. And Manchester United are on the rise by Rangnick's arrival. But their performance is still not too impressive. In this case, we can watch very competitive matches here. But in my opinion, Manchester United are still stronger than Atletico Madrid now and they can advance to the next round if we don't see big changes.

I agree here. At least on paper this of probably the closest matchup in the round of the last 16 of the champions league. Both teams are not in the best shape at the moment but that does not necessarily mean that much when it comes to such important knock out games. If Manchester United would have not changed their coach then Atletico would definitely be the favorite here for me, but now with Rangnick i think the odds have changed a little bit. For me he is one of the best coaches in Europe and even back in the late 1990#s the teams of Rangnick already played pressing and they already covered the space instead of fixed players.

I agree with you on that Ralf Rangnick is a really good manager. Maybe he is the interim manager of Manchester United for now but this could change in the future, who knows. Because since he came to the team, Manchester United started playing better and getting more satisfying results. This could lead Rangnick to be permanent here. But it will still be depending on his successes in this season. Manchester United should not only be successful in the EPL but also in the CL. And this is why I believe that they can eliminate Atletico Madrid.

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December 23, 2021, 03:06:22 PM
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Chelsea are a very lucky team that they have one of the easiest matchups among the favourite clubs to win the Champions League title. And it was really interesting to see that they got a draw against Lille two times.  Grin  It must be really frustrating for Lille. As Lille are not having a very satisfying season, Chelsea should be able to move them out of the CL by not having too much problem. I know that there has been a decrease in Chelsea's performance lately but they are still too powerful against their opponent.
If Chelsea's performance continues to decline and of course it will be a pressure on the team, at least the problem will have an impact on their performance as well. But if some key Chelsea players can get back into shape and keep them safe until the match against Lille, then of course Chelsea have a great chance of qualifying. I'm just worried that the pressure on the team can't be overcome, because after all even though Lille looks worse in the domestic league but the fact that throughout the group stage Lille can prove their capacity and Lille still can't be underestimated.
Well this is something very normal in football, some teams fall and have certain low and some high returns, it has happened that teams like Real Madrid, which are generally large teams, lose against teams that do not have much relevance, and it does not mean That they are bad or that something is happening to them, there is a unique influencing factor that should always be taken into account, and that is luck, because a team can play a lot, but the ball does not enter the goal, maybe a stick or that the goalkeeper covers it, very random things, it's incredible but in football the luck factor is very decisive.

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December 23, 2021, 03:13:09 PM
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Atletico Madrid - Manchester United could be a really interesting matchup. Because there is not a big difference between them now in terms of strength. Atletico Madrid are very experienced when it comes to defending their opponents in critical matches. But they haven't been playing like themselves recently. They are in a really bad shape now as they have a losing streak of three matches in the La Liga. And Manchester United are on the rise by Rangnick's arrival. But their performance is still not too impressive. In this case, we can watch very competitive matches here. But in my opinion, Manchester United are still stronger than Atletico Madrid now and they can advance to the next round if we don't see big changes.

I agree here. At least on paper this of probably the closest matchup in the round of the last 16 of the champions league. Both teams are not in the best shape at the moment but that does not necessarily mean that much when it comes to such important knock out games. If Manchester United would have not changed their coach then Atletico would definitely be the favorite here for me, but now with Rangnick i think the odds have changed a little bit. For me he is one of the best coaches in Europe and even back in the late 1990#s the teams of Rangnick already played pressing and they already covered the space instead of fixed players.

I agree with you on that Ralf Rangnick is a really good manager. Maybe he is the interim manager of Manchester United for now but this could change in the future, who knows. Because since he came to the team, Manchester United started playing better and getting more satisfying results. This could lead Rangnick to be permanent here. But it will still be depending on his successes in this season. Manchester United should not only be successful in the EPL but also in the CL. And this is why I believe that they can eliminate Atletico Madrid.

Ralph Rangnick is a great coach (manager).  

He is both a practitioner and a theorist.  This is the German approach to coaching - pedantry, organization, high dedication.  He is obsessed with coaching.  Players under his leadership realize themselves 100 percent.  The game will be systemic.  

Each player will become a soldier who will contribute to the victory of the football team.  United will become one of the most organized football teams.  

Active pressure from attacking players is the main feature of Ralph Rangnick's coaching work.

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December 23, 2021, 03:20:40 PM
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Following on from what I mentioned earlier, Real Madrid is almost 10 points ahead of the second-placed team in La Liga. If the rhythm is maintained, they will arrive at the game with PSG in a comfortable position in the Spanish league, being able to dedicate everything to this game.

PSG is also making good progress in the French championship, but it has had a less regular performance. It is the French league that is less competitive than the Spanish.

It's really going to be a very interesting game to watch.
This is a very interesting observation, Real Madrid has such an advantage over the other teams on their local tournament that if needed they can rest their starters for a game or two and not being affected at all by it, this is important because as we know football clubs like Real Madrid have the obligation to win any tournament in which they are competing, so they can if necessary sacrifice some of the lead they have in their local tournament to try to have a better chance to win the champions league.
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December 23, 2021, 04:25:08 PM
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Comparing these two teams, I think Manchester United is a strong team. Atletico Madrid is not playing well. Their position in La Liga is also very weak. They have lost their last 4 matches in La Liga. Lost form in a very bad way. Atletico Madrid have no hope of winning the La Liga title. However, despite the improvement in performance, they will not be able to beat Manchester United. United are a very strong team.
This is a 50/50 game in my opinion, both teams have had respective rough patches this season, United struggled so much at the beginning of the season and are doing a wee bit better at the moment, Athletico Madrid were not bad when the season started, but they would quickly want to forget this past few weeks as they have been in really terrible form, losing quite a lot of games. This CL fixture is going to be open, and it could come down to the tiniest of detail, there is still a few weeks before the round of 16 games, thus, the both teams still have time to either improve on their current form, or deteriorate. I don't have a special pick for this match, but I have the believe that Athletico are just going to edge United in this one, but United have a goal scoring machine in person of Ronaldo, so my prediction could turn out wrong.

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December 23, 2021, 05:50:30 PM
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Following on from what I mentioned earlier, Real Madrid is almost 10 points ahead of the second-placed team in La Liga. If the rhythm is maintained, they will arrive at the game with PSG in a comfortable position in the Spanish league, being able to dedicate everything to this game.

PSG is also making good progress in the French championship, but it has had a less regular performance. It is the French league that is less competitive than the Spanish.

It's really going to be a very interesting game to watch.
This is a very interesting observation, Real Madrid has such an advantage over the other teams on their local tournament that if needed they can rest their starters for a game or two and not being affected at all by it, this is important because as we know football clubs like Real Madrid have the obligation to win any tournament in which they are competing, so they can if necessary sacrifice some of the lead they have in their local tournament to try to have a better chance to win the champions league.

You are right. In the Champions League since their opponent PSG. They are a very strong and star rich team. The strategy of the match against PSG will have to be arranged by Real Madrid even earlier. And they will do their best to ensure that no important player gets injured before the PSG match. Maybe the coach can rest Vinicius and Benzema for a few matches.

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December 23, 2021, 08:30:30 PM
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fact Atletico and Manchester United have never played in any tournament so far, so there is no head to head record for this match. History is not an exact benchmark, because of the different situations, conditions, squad and many other factors that will certainly make the past not the same as what will happen today and tomorrow. We just need to make sure the team's recent performances are clear, Atletico is in decline and vice versa, Manchester United which keeps getting better then at least it promises something good for Manchester United and not just about 1 or 2 players.
Comparing these two teams, I think Manchester United is a strong team. Atletico Madrid is not playing well. Their position in La Liga is also very weak. They have lost their last 4 matches in La Liga. Lost form in a very bad way. Atletico Madrid have no hope of winning the La Liga title. However, despite the improvement in performance, they will not be able to beat Manchester United. United are a very strong team.
Not as strong as imagined, if Atletico really come back and recover 100% then I would say Atletico have a better chance. The situation is different now, although Manchester United without Ronaldo I believe Manchester United still has a chance to win. I only consider that Atletico's condition which continues to decline is very different from Manchester United, conditions like this are clearly very unbalanced and I'm not saying Manchester United are a very strong team. It's about what kind of opponent they will face, because for me Atletico in the last few seasons had a good defense but this season they have been declining.

Atletico Madrid started the season well but now they are not able to play well. Suarez and Griezmann are failing to play well, the other players on the team are also unable to score. Now they have to return to form. Manchester United, on the other hand, is now a stable team. They have no chance of winning the Premier League title. So now their only goal is to perform well in the Champions League and win the title. So I don't think Atletico Madrid will be able to beat Manchester United. My prediction is that Manchester United will win the home match and the away match will be a draw.

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December 23, 2021, 09:36:18 PM
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Real Madrid and PSG both will have a clear mind before this matchup if they go on like this in their domestic leagues. And it seems like this will really happen. Because both of them are at a very great position in their leagues right now. And they have big chances to become the champions there. But they don't aim only those titles of course. They both are aiming the CL title. We will see which one of them wants it more.
I am guessing that there is a good chance they could do whatever they want in the league, like put up youngsters in order to give the stars some break. However, it is not really about the equality of the rosters, I feel like PSG has much much better roster right now, but it is about chemistry and that's a lot better situation for Madrid, because they have a good amount of chemistry which PSG doesn't have.

So, we are seeing a team with bad chemistry but better roster going against a team with great chemistry but worse roster. I can't say which one will win, but I can see PSG having a great game and having an unexpected big win as well. Like for example if they could end up with a 3-0 result on that game, I will not be shocked, because it is something that is possible and definitely something that could happen very soon in the near future.

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December 24, 2021, 08:42:18 AM
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Comparing these two teams, I think Manchester United is a strong team. Atletico Madrid is not playing well. Their position in La Liga is also very weak. They have lost their last 4 matches in La Liga. Lost form in a very bad way. Atletico Madrid have no hope of winning the La Liga title. However, despite the improvement in performance, they will not be able to beat Manchester United. United are a very strong team.
This is a 50/50 game in my opinion, both teams have had respective rough patches this season, United struggled so much at the beginning of the season and are doing a wee bit better at the moment, Athletico Madrid were not bad when the season started, but they would quickly want to forget this past few weeks as they have been in really terrible form, losing quite a lot of games. This CL fixture is going to be open, and it could come down to the tiniest of detail, there is still a few weeks before the round of 16 games, thus, the both teams still have time to either improve on their current form, or deteriorate. I don't have a special pick for this match, but I have the believe that Athletico are just going to edge United in this one, but United have a goal scoring machine in person of Ronaldo, so my prediction could turn out wrong.

There is no doubt that based on individual players, Manchester United have a much stronger team. Maybe so strong that they can win the Champions League. The arrival of Ronaldo certainly contributes to that. It is a competition that can go in different directions. 50-50 would be possible, but you shouldn't be surprised if United win 2 times easily both home and away. Ronaldo will always score goals, no matter how bad his teammates are performing.

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December 24, 2021, 09:23:06 AM
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You are right. In the Champions League since their opponent PSG. They are a very strong and star rich team. The strategy of the match against PSG will have to be arranged by Real Madrid even earlier. And they will do their best to ensure that no important player gets injured before the PSG match. Maybe the coach can rest Vinicius and Benzema for a few matches.

We have to take into account that, looking only at the squad of each team, we would say that PSG has better players and that could be an advantage. But with Real Madrid being able to better manage the squad before the match against PSG, give them better skills to play the game.

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December 24, 2021, 10:19:25 AM
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fact Atletico and Manchester United have never played in any tournament so far, so there is no head to head record for this match. History is not an exact benchmark, because of the different situations, conditions, squad and many other factors that will certainly make the past not the same as what will happen today and tomorrow. We just need to make sure the team's recent performances are clear, Atletico is in decline and vice versa, Manchester United which keeps getting better then at least it promises something good for Manchester United and not just about 1 or 2 players.

Comparing these two teams, I think Manchester United is a strong team. Atletico Madrid is not playing well. Their position in La Liga is also very weak. They have lost their last 4 matches in La Liga. Lost form in a very bad way. Atletico Madrid have no hope of winning the La Liga title. However, despite the improvement in performance, they will not be able to beat Manchester United. United are a very strong team.
We say United is a very strong team, but we should not forget that they lost to Young Boys.  In football, anything can happen.  Likewise, it should not be forgotten that Sheriff beat Real Madrid in Spain.  Atletico Madrid is not as weak as the Sheriff.  They have players who will change the fate of the game in an instant.  I don't have a favorite team in this matchup.  The better team in that match wins.

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December 24, 2021, 10:41:36 AM
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You are right. In the Champions League since their opponent PSG. They are a very strong and star rich team. The strategy of the match against PSG will have to be arranged by Real Madrid even earlier. And they will do their best to ensure that no important player gets injured before the PSG match. Maybe the coach can rest Vinicius and Benzema for a few matches.

We have to take into account that, looking only at the squad of each team, we would say that PSG has better players and that could be an advantage. But with Real Madrid being able to better manage the squad before the match against PSG, give them better skills to play the game.
No match is the same but the formation is different between PSG vs Madrid I think both sides will arrange the players before the match starts and actually it is difficult to predict.
I think a lot of people will dominate at PSG because they have so many squads but for me still thinking like that is not a good thing and Madrid also have the same game when on the pitch with the big teams.
Moreover, Real Madrid has experience as the defending champion with many titles.

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December 24, 2021, 10:50:13 AM
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If Paris saint Germain can hold down both Vinicius junior and Karim benzema, they'll have a good chance of winning the game against Real Madrid.
They both have Carried the team on them shoulders, they both has the highest goals for Real Madrid,if kept quiet then, PSG will emerge winners.

Manchester United has a good chance of moving to the next round,that Is if Athletico Madrid continues with bad games like this.
Having Cristiano Ronaldo with them gives them an edge,Ralf Ragnick just needs the right formation and that's all the team demands.

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December 24, 2021, 12:37:02 PM
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If Paris saint Germain can hold down both Vinicius junior and Karim benzema, they'll have a good chance of winning the game against Real Madrid.
They both have Carried the team on them shoulders, they both has the highest goals for Real Madrid,if kept quiet then, PSG will emerge winners.

These two are the main scorers of Real Madrid. The match will be under the control of PSG if they can resist these two. A plus point for PSG is that Ramos has long played with Benzema and Vini. He is well aware of the weaknesses of these two players. The coach should decide the strategy in consultation with Ramos. Because no one knows Real Madrid better than Ramos.

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December 24, 2021, 12:47:37 PM
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In the round of 16 of the Champions League I am looking forward to the matches between Atletico Madrid vs Manchester United and Paris Saint-Germain vs Real Madrid.
Focusing on Les Parisiens vs Los Blancos, more interestingly, we know that at PSG there are Sergio Ramos and Lionel Messi, who previously became rivals and are now on the same team. And I hope Sergio Ramos can play, I want to see how he holds off the attack from his former team, Real Madrid.

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December 24, 2021, 01:34:14 PM
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In the round of 16 of the Champions League I am looking forward to the matches between Atletico Madrid vs Manchester United and Paris Saint-Germain vs Real Madrid.
Focusing on Les Parisiens vs Los Blancos, more interestingly, we know that at PSG there are Sergio Ramos and Lionel Messi, who previously became rivals and are now on the same team. And I hope Sergio Ramos can play, I want to see how he holds off the attack from his former team, Real Madrid.

All eyes are on Ramos in this match. We all know Ramos has played for Real Madrid for a long time. He is one of the legendary players of Real Madrid. He tried his best to win Real Madrid. Now he will play against Real Madrid. However, he has already told the media that he wants to beat Real Madrid. However, I look forward to seeing the performances of Messi, Mbappe and Ramos against Real Madrid.

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