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Author Topic: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!  (Read 129354 times)
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December 14, 2021, 02:10:43 PM
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I will be waiting for seeing the PSG v Real Madrid draw especially. I'm hyped about this draw because Real Madrid are also very good this season. They are already dominating the La Liga lately and they ended the CL group stage as the leader too. Maybe PSG seem to be still a little ahead of them but I expect really tough matches for this draw.

By what indicators is PSG better than Real? The local championship can be ignored - this year PSG have no competitors there, in the Champions League group they performed less confidently than Real Madrid and took only second place showing a weak game against City. In my opinion, at the moment Real looks clearly better.

His indicators seems to be came from the overall squad where there are more popular players in PSG than in Real Madrid.
If we look at the overall performance in both local league and UCL of both PSG and Real Madrid, I have to say that Real Madrid is better.
However, there is still plenty of time for both team to improve before the 1st leg.

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December 14, 2021, 02:24:17 PM
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PSG - Real Madrid is a matchup that everything can happen in. Of course, most people are waiting for PSG to move Real Madrid out of their way and even win the title at the end. But as of this stage of the Champions League we should get ready for surprising results also. For example, Bayern Munich were one of the biggest favourites of last season but they were eliminated by PSG.
I really hope Real Madrid beat PSG after all that moaning from their chairman over the summer....imagine turning down €200 million for Mbappe "to win the Champions League", only to get knocked out by the team he's leaving you for free for. PSG have faced Real Madrid six times in the Champions League. They have won just one of those games, while Real Madrid have won three. PSG would look to improve on their dismal record against the 13-time winners as they look to win their first Champions League title. PSG is a star filled team, but in my opinion they do not perform well together as a unit, I believe Real Madrid are in good form and can pass PSG pretty easy.
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December 14, 2021, 02:31:40 PM
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PSG - Real Madrid is a matchup that everything can happen in. Of course, most people are waiting for PSG to move Real Madrid out of their way and even win the title at the end. But as of this stage of the Champions League we should get ready for surprising results also. For example, Bayern Munich were one of the biggest favourites of last season but they were eliminated by PSG.

This for sure will be a game worth to watch. I am looking forward for it. At this first phase, when the game will be held at psg's home, i think Madrid will play more defensive while waiting for a good time to make a counter attack. If Madrid able to make one or more goal in this game, that'll be good advantage for them which will make the second phase a bit easier.
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December 14, 2021, 02:51:04 PM
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I consider Real to be favorites here - PSG is a great team on paper and is crushing teams in France, but I want to see how they will stand up to a well organized team that can match them in individual player quality as well.

If Messi, Mbappe and Neymar don't put shifts in defensive part of the game, Real will walk over them. Especially under Ancelotti who has huge experience and who's made this Real team into a cohesive unit once again.
It's a match that many are looking forward to especially with the surprising draw once I found out it was a mistake from UEFA, however, this result will make some games favorites.
What about Ramos who was at Real Madrid who continued to buy with a lot of anger and now meets PSG who are many multi-talented players, Ancelotti has accepted a tough challenge in the last 16 of the UCL and this must he manage how to get ahead of PSG.

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Regarding Liverpool - I'm fairly happy with the new draw as well. We haven't played Inter in a while and I'm really looking forward to it. Close enough for a trip to the game as well Smiley
This is a rare match, Liverpool attack on fire in the EPL and in the UCL while Inter can only be consistent in Serie A and I still doubt it in the UCL let alone meet Liverpool who are super strong.

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December 14, 2021, 03:16:17 PM
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PSG - Real Madrid is a matchup that everything can happen in. Of course, most people are waiting for PSG to move Real Madrid out of their way and even win the title at the end. But as of this stage of the Champions League we should get ready for surprising results also. For example, Bayern Munich were one of the biggest favourites of last season but they were eliminated by PSG.
From Benfica to PSG. I like this draw.

Although PSG don't seem to be that strong, it will be nice to see Ramos back at Madrid. Who knows, PSG might surprise everyone? Although, PSG could exit at the 16th round, there's no way they'll make it past Madrid. This group of players has many weaknesses. Currently, Madrid is a solid squad. Both Real Madrid and PSG fans shouldn't comfort themselves by believing they are going to win.

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December 14, 2021, 03:17:00 PM
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What about Ramos who was at Real Madrid who continued to buy with a lot of anger and now meets PSG who are many multi-talented players, Ancelotti has accepted a tough challenge in the last 16 of the UCL and this must he manage how to get ahead of PSG.

I read the news Ramos will bring win all-out for PSG ,player must be able to position the best where he stands up well I think that's what Ramos has in mind to keep playing professionally ! Ramos is an ex Real Madrid player was the long time on there ,he definitely knows the weaknesses of his friends it will be difficult for Real Madrid in this first leg ,but I hope real madrid win because the current performance is on fiery

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December 14, 2021, 03:38:48 PM
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What about Ramos who was at Real Madrid who continued to buy with a lot of anger and now meets PSG who are many multi-talented players, Ancelotti has accepted a tough challenge in the last 16 of the UCL and this must he manage how to get ahead of PSG.

I read the news Ramos will bring win all-out for PSG ,player must be able to position the best where he stands up well I think that's what Ramos has in mind to keep playing professionally ! Ramos is an ex Real Madrid player was the long time on there ,he definitely knows the weaknesses of his friends it will be difficult for Real Madrid in this first leg ,but I hope real madrid win because the current performance is on fiery
Ramos, who has had a long career with Real Madrid, of course, will be very emotional facing the match in the round of 16 later, I think as a professional player, of course, Ramos will exert his ability to help PSG win in that match, besides that Ramos has a great opportunity to show to Madrid if he is still a strong defender despite his age, I think Ramos, who was dumped by Madrid last season, must have been heartbroken after all his career he spent with Madrid.
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December 14, 2021, 04:03:38 PM
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I consider Real to be favorites here - PSG is a great team on paper and is crushing teams in France, but I want to see how they will stand up to a well organized team that can match them in individual player quality as well.
It's too strange. Who would have guessed that Messi and Ramos would return to Real Madrid as teammates rather than rivals? I was looking forward to a bit of a test for PSG this season because they have been winning games based on individual brilliance, and if this continues against Real Madrid, PSG will not achieve a positive result and will be eliminated. But if Pochentiho gets it right this time, I'm confident that PSG will give Real Madrid a tough game.

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December 14, 2021, 04:22:23 PM
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Ramos, who has had a long career with Real Madrid, of course, will be very emotional facing the match in the round of 16 later, I think as a professional player, of course, Ramos will exert his ability to help PSG win in that match, besides that Ramos has a great opportunity to show to Madrid if he is still a strong defender despite his age, I think Ramos, who was dumped by Madrid last season, must have been heartbroken after all his career he spent with Madrid.
Ramos still loves Real Madrid very much and you can find the proof if you look at something on his official instagram, but he doesn't want to make the decision that he wants to retire at Madrid. PSG gave him the opportunity to continue his professional career as a player and of course he is expected to help PSG to have a strong defense with him. There may be no guarantees due to his old age and declining fitness given that he has suffered a number of injuries, but he can still bring out his best for a defender.

Real Madrid will be the favorites in this match, but PSG is not an opponent to be underestimated when Messi, Neymar and Mbappe are in good form. Both have a chance to win, it will be an impressive match for both teams especially when Messi and Ramos away to Spain.

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December 14, 2021, 04:27:14 PM
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I read the news Ramos will bring win all-out for PSG ,player must be able to position the best where he stands up well I think that's what Ramos has in mind to keep playing professionally ! Ramos is an ex Real Madrid player was the long time on there ,he definitely knows the weaknesses of his friends it will be difficult for Real Madrid in this first leg ,but I hope real madrid win because the current performance is on fiery
Ramos, who has had a long career with Real Madrid, of course, will be very emotional facing the match in the round of 16 later, I think as a professional player, of course, Ramos will exert his ability to help PSG win in that match, besides that Ramos has a great opportunity to show to Madrid if he is still a strong defender despite his age, I think Ramos, who was dumped by Madrid last season, must have been heartbroken after all his career he spent with Madrid.
It has to be a professional where Ramos lives he has to buy his team with a decent fight even though what is faced is a steady former club with a long career, but it is not certain whether Ramos will be included in the squad for this match or not because PSG has defenders more for now than Ramos and the decision rests with Pochettino.
Not being dumped but Ramos is old so Real Madrid doesn't need him anymore and now he can prove that even though he is old, I believe he can be held back with good performances.

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December 14, 2021, 04:31:49 PM
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After the Champions League draw was repeated, Real Madrid were in a bad situation. Because they were going to have a draw against Benfica that they would eliminate easily. But they got a draw against PSG. I guess that Ancelotti is worried about this already now. I think that the favourite team of this draw is PSG. Messi performs much better in the Champions League compared to the Ligue 1. And he knows what he needs to do against Real Madrid.

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December 14, 2021, 04:33:58 PM
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I consider Real to be favorites here - PSG is a great team on paper and is crushing teams in France, but I want to see how they will stand up to a well organized team that can match them in individual player quality as well.
It's too strange. Who would have guessed that Messi and Ramos would return to Real Madrid as teammates rather than rivals? I was looking forward to a bit of a test for PSG this season because they have been winning games based on individual brilliance, and if this continues against Real Madrid, PSG will not achieve a positive result and will be eliminated. But if Pochentiho gets it right this time, I'm confident that PSG will give Real Madrid a tough game.
After Neymar got injured for some reason Mbappe and Messi played very well from the wins he got from the last two matches yesterday, both of them made assists and also goals for the team's victory. But at the same time Real Madrid can also play consistently it is evident from the 10 consecutive wins that Madrid have now, both are in their best form at the moment. Considering that the match for these two teams will take place in the second month of next year, then I personally still can't decide which team has the chance to win but if I look at the current conditions, I personally will choose Madrid.

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December 14, 2021, 04:38:31 PM
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I read the news Ramos will bring win all-out for PSG ,player must be able to position the best where he stands up well I think that's what Ramos has in mind to keep playing professionally ! Ramos is an ex Real Madrid player was the long time on there ,he definitely knows the weaknesses of his friends it will be difficult for Real Madrid in this first leg ,but I hope real madrid win because the current performance is on fiery
Ramos, who has had a long career with Real Madrid, of course, will be very emotional facing the match in the round of 16 later, I think as a professional player, of course, Ramos will exert his ability to help PSG win in that match, besides that Ramos has a great opportunity to show to Madrid if he is still a strong defender despite his age, I think Ramos, who was dumped by Madrid last season, must have been heartbroken after all his career he spent with Madrid.
It has to be a professional where Ramos lives he has to buy his team with a decent fight even though what is faced is a steady former club with a long career, but it is not certain whether Ramos will be included in the squad for this match or not because PSG has defenders more for now than Ramos and the decision rests with Pochettino.
Not being dumped but Ramos is old so Real Madrid doesn't need him anymore and now he can prove that even though he is old, I believe he can be held back with good performances.

Yes, I think that Ramos will not waste this opportunity, it will be very interesting to see what kind of response Ramos will receive when he returns to the Bernabeu stadium as an madrid opponent.
In fact, Ramos is a formidable defender, but his old age and injury-prone are the reasons for Real Madrid to let him go, and of course as an ordinary human being ramos also has feelings of hurt because madrid has been wasted at the end of his career, I think ramos experience at madrid will certainly be a weapon for PSG to win the match and I'm sure if ramos is fine then surely Pochettino will play him from the start of the match.

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December 14, 2021, 04:49:26 PM
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chelsea had great luck, they will play against a team that does not pose any danger to chelsea at least i think that way

Destiny, Only those clubs (Lille and Chelsea) do not change on 2nd drawing.

Chelsea do not be careless, we know they have strong on paper and always got the win vs Lille in the last meet. Maybe because without a target, Lille will play leisurely without a burden, this is different from Chelsea, they are the defending champions who have to win. maybe there will be a surprise if the defending champion is eliminated on the 2nd stage.

Between Lille and Chelsea,I think the English side has the upper hand. They are in form at the moment and doing well in the league. Lille isn't bad but Chelsea has a way of coming out smoking against a French side. Is suppose to be a tough encounter but Chelsea is favourite IMO.

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December 14, 2021, 04:54:10 PM
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In fact, Ramos is a formidable defender, but his old age and injury-prone are the reasons for Real Madrid to let him go, and of course as an ordinary human being ramos also has feelings of hurt because madrid has been wasted at the end of his career, I think ramos experience at madrid will certainly be a weapon for PSG to win the match and I'm sure if ramos is fine then surely Pochettino will play him from the start of the match.

That's right, Ramos not only has experience playing at Madrid, but, he also have experience coached by Ancelotti and may be this make him knows the weaknesses of Real Madrid. A coach will not have a strategy that changes 180 degrees, I think Ramos knows to lead other players to deal with the rhythm and strategy from Ancelotti. So, Madrid players must have the initiative beyond Ancelotti's mind when they are struggling to score goals. Kroos, Benzema, Modric or other midfielders and forwards must be able to become a destroyer for PSG defense.

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December 14, 2021, 04:55:50 PM
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Yes, I think that Ramos will not waste this opportunity, it will be very interesting to see what kind of response Ramos will receive when he returns to the Bernabeu stadium as an madrid opponent.
He does not like the way he got out of Bernabeu because Perez rejected to give him a long contract. I think Ramos now is not in his best and only came back with real matches after many months struggling with injuries and recovery process. I doubt that he can perform well if he has a position to join that match since beginning.

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In fact, Ramos is a formidable defender, but his old age and injury-prone are the reasons for Real Madrid to let him go, and of course as an ordinary human being ramos also has feelings of hurt because madrid has been wasted at the end of his career, I think ramos experience at madrid will certainly be a weapon for PSG to win the match and I'm sure if ramos is fine then surely Pochettino will play him from the start of the match.
It is what happened with Ramos last 2 years and one of most important reasons he was not signed a new contract in Real Madrid. We see how long it takes for Ramos to recover from injury. I also don't think what he shows in Ligue 1 is too impressive even PSG dominates that league and Ramos does not face with too many dangerous attacks from opponents.

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December 14, 2021, 05:02:04 PM
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Inter Milan is not a weak team. My guess is that Inter Milan will be able to draw their home match and they will lose the away match. Liverpool is a strong team. They are playing for the title. But the important thing is that Liverpool's players are in good form now. In this situation, winning against Liverpool is challenging for any team.
I agree with your claim. Liverpool barely defeated Milan in the same place by 2-1. And if we look at the previous weeks, we can see that Inter have been performing at a higher level than Milan. In this critical round of the CL, I don't expect Inter to lose in the first game of the draw. I expect a score like 1-1 or 2-2. But there might be nothing to do for Inter in Anfield like you said also.

However, the Inter Milan team cannot be considered weak. The Liverpool team must play well and be aware. At the same time, if Liverpool's star players get injured, it will be more difficult for Liverpool to beat Inter Milan. Liverpool have a good chance of winning, but they must play well to win. Liverpool will lose points if they make a mistake on the field.

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December 14, 2021, 05:25:15 PM
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Especially under Ancelotti who has huge experience and who's made this Real team into a cohesive unit once again.
Don't forget that Madrid has started the season as of 2014-15 which was under Ancelotti as well. With a huge performance at the beginning of the season, they started almost winning nothing & a 3-2 loss against Juventus on UCL. I wouldn't surprised if I have to see the same this time as well. Have you noticed how many players are playing full-time? Vini isn't getting any rest. I'm sure there will be a time this season Madrid won't get enough combined teammates to play a match. Most players will have injuries and will barely be able to recover. The same happened in that season as well. There's not enough rotating which is badly needed for performing in a big match.

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December 14, 2021, 05:53:41 PM
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PSG - Real Madrid is a matchup that everything can happen in. Of course, most people are waiting for PSG to move Real Madrid out of their way and even win the title at the end. But as of this stage of the Champions League we should get ready for surprising results also. For example, Bayern Munich were one of the biggest favourites of last season but they were eliminated by PSG.
this is the fight i look forward to in this round.
anything can happen but I will give my bet to Real Madrid now.
There's no need for a long reason because I am a fan of Madrid Cheesy Apart from that, their performance is also more impressive than PSG in the UCL.
I hope Sergio plays in this Madrid game against PSG because I haven't seen him play in a long time, besides that it would be quite epic if he played at PSG against madrid

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December 14, 2021, 06:01:25 PM
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I wonder when the bookmakers will give quotes for the upcoming round of 16 matches? I don't think there will be many people who want to freeze their money for such a period now, but I would be interested to see how the teams' chances are assessed now and how they will change immediately before the match. I think that some teams (for example Manchester United) can seriously change their game and become stronger opponents.
That's still a long time like two months longer and if the odds are opened from now on then I'm sure it's impossible, unlike the case with the title winning team bet that could have been made at the beginning of the season. But for a game like this and the start time is still long and also, there are still a lot of games to be played during that period which makes it possible for many factors to change from injured players and any changes and it's not just about one team.

I understand this and I have observed many times when the odds have changed significantly even at shorter distances. But as we know, the bookmakers balance the acceptance of bets in such a way that, whatever the outcome, they remain in the black. Why don't they do it now? At any given time, it will only be important for them to maintain the correct balance of the taken bets.
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