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Author Topic: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!  (Read 129354 times)
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October 27, 2020, 08:24:04 AM
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Exactly, just remember Juventus can get $60 Million from Ronaldo jersey it self within 24 hours. After that, Juventus success to get renewal contract with Adidas. I think this is happen because Juventus have CR7 and some star players. Compared with previous season they just get €14.65 million from Jersey sold.


Source: Statista
Profits from jersey selling and other incomes from advertisement contracts with the appearance of Ronaldo are one of reasons why Juventus decided to make a big transfer with Ronaldo 3 seasons ago. $60 millions from jersey selling within 24 hours indeed is a very impressive record.

Do you know any source of stats on total money Juventus have gotten from Ronaldo's jersey since his transfer from Real Madrid to Juventus?

it is not very easy to calculate, because we do not know all the contracts and earnings of all the merchandise related to CR7 (which receives a part of it in my opinion)

the sale of the $ 60m 24h only serves to make it clear that in addition to having a champion in the team, Juventus has made a full-blown marketing and commercial operation, earning MUCH money than they spent for CR7

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October 27, 2020, 08:55:18 AM
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Juventus vs Barcelona on Wednesday, it is Ronaldo vs Messi again. This should be a really exciting game, I look forward to it.

It is not the same as it used to be but it will be still interesting game.
Now those two teams have different philosophy in their playing style. Italian teams play stricter defense while Spanish teams are more like opt to passing game and team game in general.
I think that Messi is going to shine more due to their holistic play style.
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October 27, 2020, 09:01:15 AM
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Haven't made any bets yet, but I have some doubts about one game. Odds for Atalanta win over Ajax looks nice. Atalanta won first UCL game easy, but they suffered 2 big losses in Serie A. So, I'm not sure about their win.
I'm going to back some favorites like Inter, Atletico, maybe Porto. And I will look for goals over in Bayern and Liverpool games.

Ajax odds look VERY nice indeed over 3.8x the problem is I don't actually know how they play, apparently not bad against Liverpool and then winning 13-0 in their local league, but they always feel like Arsenal to me. Plenty of talent but not enough grit to win, you know?

The best bet there is probably BTTS and over 3, and then parlay with something like Porto (who played well and should score a couple). Haven't made my mind up yet however.

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October 27, 2020, 09:14:39 AM
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Made couple of bets for today:

Shakhtar x Inter - MY BET

Atalanta x Ajax - MY BET

Atletico x Salzburg - MY BET


Shakhtar B basically destroyed Real at Santiago Bernabeu so imho those odds are definitely worth a try, Atalanta are rather favorites and odds are really decent, also I think Atletico is not really convincing in terms of scoring goals (apart from 6-1 against Granada) so I suppose draw here is highly possible
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October 27, 2020, 09:18:22 AM
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Juventus vs Barcelona on Wednesday, it is Ronaldo vs Messi again. This should be a really exciting game, I look forward to it.
Even if Ronaldo gets the green light to take part, I have a strong feeling it'll be a boring match.

What about Ronaldo? will he play after passing the test results? I don't know whether the test result is positive or not.
I read a couple of news that there's a chance if he gets a negative result on the test [24 hrs prior to the game], they might allow him to take part.

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October 27, 2020, 10:33:54 AM
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it is not very easy to calculate, because we do not know all the contracts and earnings of all the merchandise related to CR7 (which receives a part of it in my opinion)

I tried to search several information about that before, unfortunatelly there no data can be find. (may we can stop this discussion)



Juventus vs Barcelona in my opinion is a club that is currently in a adaptation period, they have advantages and disadvantages that come from their new coach. But, from coaching experience, Koeman has a better strategy than Pirlo, I think in this match, Juventus more difficult to beat Barcelona, Ronaldo reported healed from COVID-19, maybe he can play in this match.

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October 27, 2020, 10:38:57 AM
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Games of Today


Lokomotiv Moscow 17:55 Bayern Munich
Shakhtar Donetsk 17:55 Inter Milan
Atalanta 20:00 Ajax
Atletico Madrid 20:00 Red Bull Salzburg
FC Porto 20:00 Olympiakos FC
Liverpool 20:00 FC Midtjylland
M'gladbach 20:00 Real Madrid
Marseille 20:00 Manchester City

Source: https://www.skysports.com/champions-league-fixtures

Big games? no one

Key game? M'gladbach - Real Madrid if Real will lose they will almost out from the gruop stage, I mean not out but very high risk of going out with 0 points in 2 games.

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October 27, 2020, 11:21:06 AM
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I'm glad Liverpool's playing today because I probably wouldn't watch any other game. Nothing really interests me, although I expect Atalanta - Ajax to be a high scoring and interesting game.

Regarding the bets - I'll just go with a Real victory today. The odds are over 2.05, which is really high. Real has to bounce after that shocking display against Shakhtar and Monchengladbach isn't really that good.

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October 27, 2020, 12:31:05 PM
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Regarding the bets - I'll just go with a Real victory today. The odds are over 2.05, which is really high. Real has to bounce after that shocking display against Shakhtar and Monchengladbach isn't really that good.

Madrid must win. They have already lost their match against Shakhtar Donetsk. If they also lose against Monchengladbach, it will be difficult for the round of sixteen.
I don't think Monchengladbach will win either. But maybe a draw? They didn't play so badly against Milan.

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October 27, 2020, 01:08:26 PM
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didn't get any feedback yesterday for the Shakhtar - Inter match so i went with my initial pick (-1 AHC), odds dropped massively overnight tho (2.51 to 1.98) https://i.ibb.co/PMFDZDm/inter.png

Atletico ML at 1.85 boosted https://i.ibb.co/f1pmr3X/madrid.png
must win match againt the weakest team in the group. I might place a side bet here, "Atletico Win to nil" at 3.x0 odds, worth a shot since they have a good record at home in the CL

Liverpool -2 AHC https://i.ibb.co/qyBM20G/pool.png

Odds for Atalanta win over Ajax looks nice. Atalanta won first UCL game easy, but they suffered 2 big losses in Serie A. So, I'm not sure about their win.
to be fair, Napoli are playing really good football lately so losing at the San Paolo is no surprise, IMO. And Gasperini rotated the squad last weekend, totally a fluke win for Sampdoria. Should be an easy win for the italians tonight, but i'd go with Total goals here, Atalanta have a deadly attack in front, but a crappy defence

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October 27, 2020, 01:25:50 PM
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Shakhtar B basically destroyed Real at Santiago Bernabeu so imho those odds are definitely worth a try, Atalanta are rather favorites and odds are really decent, also I think Atletico is not really convincing in terms of scoring goals (apart from 6-1 against Granada) so I suppose draw here is highly possible

Imagine also what happens if Shakhtar A get to play tonight (are they though?),,, they might just smash another team and pass through this group. Atletico, they will go for another draw too IF they score first. But they let in so many goals in their first game they should know better than to not to do that with their style of play.

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October 27, 2020, 01:30:34 PM
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Will Bayern be Bayern and cover the Spread of +-2.5?

I want to say yes with the way they have been playing or will they slow down and just make it a 2:0 for example.

Any insights?
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October 27, 2020, 01:35:12 PM
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Regarding the bets - I'll just go with a Real victory today. The odds are over 2.05, which is really high. Real has to bounce after that shocking display against Shakhtar and Monchengladbach isn't really that good.

Madrid must win. They have already lost their match against Shakhtar Donetsk. If they also lose against Monchengladbach, it will be difficult for the round of sixteen.
I don't think Monchengladbach will win either. But maybe a draw? They didn't play so badly against Milan.


You gotta consider that the squad deployed by Real mid week vs Shaktar was different as Zidane was preparing for a more important fixture in the El Classico.  With that out of the way, I think Zidane is gonna deploy a stronger line and would prolly win by two goals.

I already got Real to win at 1.95 and Barca draw no bet at 1.86 vs Juve.  I don't think Ronaldo is playing.  Once that's confirmed, expect that line to drop.

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October 27, 2020, 02:36:30 PM
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Games of Today


Lokomotiv Moscow 17:55 Bayern Munich
Shakhtar Donetsk 17:55 Inter Milan
Atalanta 20:00 Ajax
Atletico Madrid 20:00 Red Bull Salzburg
FC Porto 20:00 Olympiakos FC
Liverpool 20:00 FC Midtjylland
M'gladbach 20:00 Real Madrid
Marseille 20:00 Manchester City

Source: https://www.skysports.com/champions-league-fixtures

Big games? no one

Key game? M'gladbach - Real Madrid if Real will lose they will almost out from the gruop stage, I mean not out but very high risk of going out with 0 points in 2 games.
All the favorites to win? At the high odds a team like inter milan and real madrid will have to a little bit struggling
While manchester city , bayern munich and liverpool all should have comfortable winning at least with 2 goals difference.
It is gonna be difficult for sure if real madrid losing this one against moenchen gladbach as they are in tough group.
They could still advance to the next stage as long as all the teams in the group beating each other , yes even with 4 or 3 games left.
But i will choose real madrid to win surely.
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October 27, 2020, 02:46:09 PM
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Games of Today


Lokomotiv Moscow 17:55 Bayern Munich
Shakhtar Donetsk 17:55 Inter Milan
Atalanta 20:00 Ajax
Atletico Madrid 20:00 Red Bull Salzburg
FC Porto 20:00 Olympiakos FC
Liverpool 20:00 FC Midtjylland
M'gladbach 20:00 Real Madrid
Marseille 20:00 Manchester City

Source: https://www.skysports.com/champions-league-fixtures

Big games? no one

Key game? M'gladbach - Real Madrid if Real will lose they will almost out from the gruop stage, I mean not out but very high risk of going out with 0 points in 2 games.

I'll be more interested in Atalanta vs Ajax match up, both teams are currently playing incredible football and It should be a good game to watch, Alternatively, I'd settle for Monchenglad vs Real Madrid, Madrid seemed to be underrated going into, they are offered @ well over 1.78 for ML, I'd surely take that bet!

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October 27, 2020, 02:54:24 PM
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Lokomotiv Moscow 17:55 Bayern Munich
Atletico Madrid 20:00 Red Bull Salzburg
M'gladbach 20:00 Real Madrid

Key game? M'gladbach - Real Madrid if Real will lose they will almost out from the gruop stage, I mean not out but very high risk of going out with 0 points in 2 games.

three most interesting from my point of view

Bayern will prove strength in Moscow, although it is a matter of question, what the result will be at the end, think of some 3,4 goals in Lokomotiv net, and will put over3.5

Atletico will win tonight, probably will put 1, and 2:0 as final score

Real Madrid is in the must mode, and should win tonight, still think about playing on them just because they have to win, M'Gladbach is not great team, but proved in Milan that they can play good football
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October 27, 2020, 03:10:53 PM
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It would be disappointing if Real Madrid lose the next match and face early elimination. I had them at 1.95 too and thinking of adding another with -1 handicap at 2.61.



This is a bit early but anyone looking at Man U's next game? Will they give as another surprise performance against Leipzig? At 2.3, I think that's a pretty good odds.
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October 27, 2020, 03:15:28 PM
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I got 11.16 odds on sportsbet for my betting today, it is really nothing that shocking or interesting neither but when you parlay too many games together the result is usually this high and I really hope that I would get this one, they all look like quite possible.

I played on Liverpool+City+Porto+Madrid+Bayern+inter and these are it, I know that not all teams may win, I know that maybe one or more could lose, but in a system like this I feel like 11.15 is good enough to give it a try, at the very worst I would lose a bit of money but at the best I would cover like a weeks worth of betting very easily, probably more if I do not spend a lot. Tomorrow is cool too, between psg+Dortmund+Barcelona+Leipzig+Sevilla there is 21 odds too but those games are obviously a lot more risky as well.

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Is not over yet for Cristiano Ronaldo.

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the matches that I have been waiting for...

Bayern vs Lokomotiv = Bayern
Inter vs Shakhtar = Inter
Man City vs Marseille = Man city
Liverpool vs Midtjylland = Liverpool
Madrid vs Monchengladbach = Madrid
A Madrid vs Salzburg = A Madrid

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