⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!

[Oneandpure]

There are some easy games that I will probably wager. I normally do not wager on champions league a lot but this week looks pretty good. Dortmund over Brugge, Barcelona over Kiev, Sevilla over krasnodar, chelsea over rennes, Uniteed over Istanbul, Juventus over ferençvaroş all of these games look like they are pretty easy games to predict, they look like not even close games if you ask me.

It means we are talking about games that could be done in a multi and you would probably get like 10+ odds with these, I haven't checked but since there is a lot of games the odds must be high, if you want you can add the next day and add city and Liverpool and Munich as well which would make it go definitely higher than 10+ odds and that way you could really make a good return with favorite teams.

Currently entering the fourth match in the champions league or the deciding match for the club to ensure they qualify for the next round, of course all teams will appear all-out, especially for teams that still have a chance to qualify even though it is very slim, at this time it still has to choose properly to betting and odds that are slightly bigger are options for gamblers. I think there will be a lot of matches in the middle of this week which will be the consideration to start bets, especially big teams whose opponents are small teams, don't place bets with teams that still have a chance to qualify for the group stage because their game motivation is greatly increased compared to with matches in the league.

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[casperBGD]

important week for Champions League, and we can see one giant out this week, Inter and Real are playing, but at the same time M'Gladbach is playing home with Shakhtar and if they win, they will probably be the one to pass-through from the group, so Inter or Real will have to see Europa league, or even fourth place in the group
things are getting interesting there

from the others, it would be interesting to see how Atalanta will react on Liverpool show-down in Bergamo, seems that Liverpool will handle it by ease
and PSG vs Leipzig, PSG already lost two matches, and third lose could be very bad for their pass-through, especially if MUtd win home match over Basaksehir, after losing in Istanbul

[masulum]

important week for Champions League, and we can see one giant out this week, Inter and Real are playing, but at the same time M'Gladbach is playing home with Shakhtar and if they win, they will probably be the one to pass-through from the group, so Inter or Real will have to see Europa league, or even fourth place in the group
things are getting interesting there

Inter Milan may have better confidence to face Madrid, even though they are still at the bottom of the table. The 4-2 victory against Torino can bring that confidence. Indeed, the quality between Madrid and Torino is much different, however, Winning vs Madrid will keep their hope at least going to UEL. minimum additional 6 points is a must for them, if they are failed to get it, maybe we can say good bye for them from UCL, if failed but get 4 points, they will join to AC Milan in UEL. 3 points till end, they are maybe not join in any UEFA competition anymore for this season.

[Yudhisthir]

important week for Champions League, and we can see one giant out this week, Inter and Real are playing, but at the same time M'Gladbach is playing home with Shakhtar and if they win, they will probably be the one to pass-through from the group, so Inter or Real will have to see Europa league, or even fourth place in the group
things are getting interesting there

Inter Milan may have better confidence to face Madrid, even though they are still at the bottom of the table. The 4-2 victory against Torino can bring that confidence. Indeed, the quality between Madrid and Torino is much different, however, Winning vs Madrid will keep their hope at least going to UEL. minimum additional 6 points is a must for them, if they are failed to get it, maybe we can say good bye for them from UCL, if failed but get 4 points, they will join to AC Milan in UEL. 3 points till end, they are maybe not join in any UEFA competition anymore for this season.

This would be a tough call. Real Madrid are just one goal ahead from their home game and both of these team are performing bad in their last games. Though Real had a good win against it's arch rival Barcelona a two weeks ago, it also faced a humiliating defeat from Valencia in the league. Inter even don't have a good record on serie A. And to everyone's amazement these two team may fail to qualify from their group.

[yeamin.rsl]

'It is a good time to rest' - Messi left out of Barcelona's squad for trip to Dynamo Kiev.
Messi has not been included in Ronald Koeman's final 19-man squad ahead of the Blaugrana's latest Champions League outing in Ukraine.
So Barcelona will play without Messi against Dynamo Kiev on Wednesday.

[coinlocket$]

'It is a good time to rest' - Messi left out of Barcelona's squad for trip to Dynamo Kiev.
Messi has not been included in Ronald Koeman's final 19-man squad ahead of the Blaugrana's latest Champions League outing in Ukraine.
So Barcelona will play without Messi against Dynamo Kiev on Wednesday.

Not a big deal, Barca and Juventus are almost qualified for the second phase, I think they need 1 each draw to be mathematically both qualified.

[Iranus]

'It is a good time to rest' - Messi left out of Barcelona's squad for trip to Dynamo Kiev.
Messi has not been included in Ronald Koeman's final 19-man squad ahead of the Blaugrana's latest Champions League outing in Ukraine.
So Barcelona will play without Messi against Dynamo Kiev on Wednesday.

This is a good decision for Messi. The Barcelona team is not the same as before. The team lacks skilled players. Koeman has sold a lot of skilled players. And as a result, the Barcelona team is not playing well. Even  they didn't play well against an easy team. Messi should think about his career now. He should leave Barcelona and join another team.

[Oneandpure]

'It is a good time to rest' - Messi left out of Barcelona's squad for trip to Dynamo Kiev.
Messi has not been included in Ronald Koeman's final 19-man squad ahead of the Blaugrana's latest Champions League outing in Ukraine.
So Barcelona will play without Messi against Dynamo Kiev on Wednesday.

This is a good decision for Messi. The Barcelona team is not the same as before. The team lacks skilled players. Koeman has sold a lot of skilled players. And as a result, the Barcelona team is not playing well. Even  they didn't play well against an easy team. Messi should think about his career now. He should leave Barcelona and join another team.

Ronald Koeman decided not to take Messi when the championship advanced against Dynamo Kiev, a decision that was very brave to make Koeman because Messi is an important player for Barcelona at this time. A very brave gamble for Koeman did not include Messi against Kiev, whether it was a factor of defeat to Atletico Madrid or indeed Messi could not cooperate with current Barca players. There is speculation about Messi's future at Barcelona whether this will be Messi's last season or not, considering that so far Messi's appearance is far below Koeman's expectations.

[celot]

'It is a good time to rest' - Messi left out of Barcelona's squad for trip to Dynamo Kiev.
Messi has not been included in Ronald Koeman's final 19-man squad ahead of the Blaugrana's latest Champions League outing in Ukraine.
So Barcelona will play without Messi against Dynamo Kiev on Wednesday.

Maybe Barcelona is want to give Messi rest and take moment to get back on his game without bring to Kiev when champion league at the middle weekend, maybe Messi have playing with many game is this season and he need take rest for one match, is not to be problem for Messi and Barcelona because many time Messi is quit from Barcelona match, I think Kiev look easy for Barcelona without have messi because till have Countinho, Griezman and Dembele. Maybe Messi will prepare for the next match in La Liga to make Barcelona focus how to get back first position and get winning again after lost from Atletico Madrid last week.

[jostorres]

I can't really say who will win or who will lose today but I have probably did the biggest multi I have ever made in my entire life for today's games. I have 11 game multi right now and I am 100% sure that I will lose at least few of them, I am not going to even lose with just one game probably .

It is probably going to be more than one game so it is definitely something quite funny to do, no idea why I wagered this many games when I know that I will not win it. I just wanted to risk a bit of money (not too much) to see if I could get it, the odds when you combine them all were HUGE so I said just think of it like rolling dice on x40 chance to win and that is what I will be looking at this like. At the end of the day we are going to have one of the biggest nights in a long time.

[buwaytress]

'It is a good time to rest' - Messi left out of Barcelona's squad for trip to Dynamo Kiev.
Messi has not been included in Ronald Koeman's final 19-man squad ahead of the Blaugrana's latest Champions League outing in Ukraine.
So Barcelona will play without Messi against Dynamo Kiev on Wednesday.

Not a big deal, Barca and Juventus are almost qualified for the second phase, I think they need 1 each draw to be mathematically both qualified.

Oh damn it. I knew I should have not been half assed about my pick for a competition, picked Messi as part of my fantasy squad, what a waste. They'll probably still win this one easily. Or this makes Kiev a good underdog bet.

Goals galore is what I'll predict, with possibly only 2/3 clean sheets this entire match day.

I can't really say who will win or who will lose today but I have probably did the biggest multi I have ever made in my entire life for today's games. I have 11 game multi right now and I am 100% sure that I will lose at least few of them, I am not going to even lose with just one game probably .

It is probably going to be more than one game so it is definitely something quite funny to do, no idea why I wagered this many games when I know that I will not win it. I just wanted to risk a bit of money (not too much) to see if I could get it, the odds when you combine them all were HUGE so I said just think of it like rolling dice on x40 chance to win and that is what I will be looking at this like. At the end of the day we are going to have one of the biggest nights in a long time.

You do mean tomorrow and day after's UCL games? Probably a good night for me to go for 5 leg parlays or more too, think a lot of teams will be looking for redemption. Care to share your picks or you just making things up? =p

[kassex]

'It is a good time to rest' - Messi left out of Barcelona's squad for trip to Dynamo Kiev.
Messi has not been included in Ronald Koeman's final 19-man squad ahead of the Blaugrana's latest Champions League outing in Ukraine.
So Barcelona will play without Messi against Dynamo Kiev on Wednesday.

This is a good decision for Messi. The Barcelona team is not the same as before. The team lacks skilled players. Koeman has sold a lot of skilled players. And as a result, the Barcelona team is not playing well. Even  they didn't play well against an easy team. Messi should think about his career now. He should leave Barcelona and join another team.

Ronald Koeman decided not to take Messi when the championship advanced against Dynamo Kiev, a decision that was very brave to make Koeman because Messi is an important player for Barcelona at this time. A very brave gamble for Koeman did not include Messi against Kiev, whether it was a factor of defeat to Atletico Madrid or indeed Messi could not cooperate with current Barca players. There is speculation about Messi's future at Barcelona whether this will be Messi's last season or not, considering that so far Messi's appearance is far below Koeman's expectations.

I fully support Kuman in this decision. Messi needs to rest and collect his thoughts. In such a state he only interferes with the team. And the question must be resolved. If Messi decided to leave, then now Barselona need to build the game without him. Kuman needs to have a serious talk with Messi about plans for the future.

[KGB.ru]

Watching the Euro League, I decided to make a risky bet, namely on guys like: Lil, who surprises me with his game and a possible victory over Milan, which seems to be relaxing lately. I expect from Braga at home a fight to the death and victory with a minimum margin, and the Ukrainian Zorya does not give me hope at all after the score 1 - 4 at home.
Here is my combo, whats your expections from this games?

[Smartvirus]

'It is a good time to rest' - Messi left out of Barcelona's squad for trip to Dynamo Kiev.
Messi has not been included in Ronald Koeman's final 19-man squad ahead of the Blaugrana's latest Champions League outing in Ukraine.
So Barcelona will play without Messi against Dynamo Kiev on Wednesday.

Is it really about the rest or Barcelona is underestimating Dynamo Kiev because as I know it, this is the Uefa Champions League and games gets really serious and ugly here. So, the taking Messi off the pitch might be a very bad decision for a Barcelona team that has had this much bad play this season but then, Messi has given Barcelona all they could ever ask of him and I feel his exhaustion having no great support by his side.
A mean, he's side kicks in the likes of Xavi, Iniesta, Neymar, Suarez etc are all gone and his still here trying to make it work! It's not easy for him no more and I think the coach sees this too. So, this could be a deliberate act to test the team in games without Messi on the pitch to see how they could harmonize their tactics and earn points. I just hope this wasn't done in a UCL match and at the same time, it seems the best place to test such an idea should that be it.

[coinlocket$]

In the game Juventus - Ferencvaros Juventus will have 3 of the 4 central defender OUT.

I don't think it will be a problem considering the gap between teams but it maybe be cause some problems in the defending situation.

Chiellini is Broken.
Bonucci is Broken.
Demiral is Boken.

Only DeLigt should play as a central defender.

[LTU_btc]

I think it's not big deal that Messi will not play against Dynamo. It's good chance to give him rest and I'm not going to look for conspiracy theories here. Even if we will lose, it won't be the end of world, we have almost guaranted place in next round.
I simply will go with favorites win tomorrow - Sevilla, Chelsea, Lazio and PSG. And maybe goals over in Juventus - Ferencvaros and Borussia - Brugge.

[EdenHazard]

In the game Juventus - Ferencvaros Juventus will have 3 of the 4 central defender OUT.

I don't think it will be a problem considering the gap between teams but it maybe be cause some problems in the defending situation.

Chiellini is Broken.
Bonucci is Broken.
Demiral is Boken.

Only DeLigt should play as a central defender.

Damn three central back to miss for the next juventus match?

How much back up they have in the back hmm? I guess things could become a real problem when there is another centerback player injured later in the game and there is no available player to back it up,  it's not really a good idea to place a midfielder especially an attacking minded player to a centerback position,  it's a problem even this is only against underdog team.
Should we bet for the both teams to score or juventus to conceded more than one goal because of this defensive problem? I guess so.

[NotATether]

In the game Juventus - Ferencvaros Juventus will have 3 of the 4 central defender OUT.

I don't think it will be a problem considering the gap between teams but it maybe be cause some problems in the defending situation.

Chiellini is Broken.
Bonucci is Broken.
Demiral is Boken.

Only DeLigt should play as a central defender.

Ferencvaros struggled to get to the UEFA group stage, at the second playoff leg they drew the match and only won because of away goals.

Now could be a good time for me to recuperate my lost bets against Atletico by betting handicaps on all the clubs in the playoff legs that will play next against big-name clubs like Juventus. They should be able to win with goal handicap -1.5, which gives better odds than just betting on the winner.

How much back up they have in the back hmm? I guess things could become a real problem when there is another centerback player injured later in the game and there is no available player to back it up,  it's not really a good idea to place a midfielder especially an attacking minded player to a centerback position,  it's a problem even this is only against underdog team.
Should we bet for the both teams to score or juventus to conceded more than one goal because of this defensive problem? I guess so.

Franck Boli making a surprise goal at the 90 minute mark is the only worry for betting both teams not to score. Ferencvaros has never scored more than one goal against Barcelona or Juventus in any of the match days (Dynamo Kyiv is an entirely different class). Neither are safe bets to go for.

[arallmuus]

I think it's not big deal that Messi will not play against Dynamo. It's good chance to give him rest and I'm not going to look for conspiracy theories here.

Actually there is no reason for him to play. Barcelona has bag 3 win so far with 9 points and they are pretty much almost qualified from the group stage. Get used to it because Messi probably wont be in Barcelona anymore next season.

How much back up they have in the back hmm? I guess things could become a real problem when there is another centerback player injured later in the game and there is no available player to back it up,  it's not really a good idea to place a midfielder especially an attacking minded player to a centerback position, 

There are some other defenders left but they are not playing as a centerback. To be honest this kind of stuff is not a surprise anymore and is expected to happen anytime sooner but Juventus should be able to pull through this one. Its not really a big deal against Ferencvaros that hasnt win any match in the group stage

[Iranus]

I think it's not big deal that Messi will not play against Dynamo. It's good chance to give him rest and I'm not going to look for conspiracy theories here. Even if we will lose, it won't be the end of world, we have almost guaranted place in next round.
I simply will go with favorites win tomorrow - Sevilla, Chelsea, Lazio and PSG. And maybe goals over in Juventus - Ferencvaros and Borussia - Brugge.

The Barcelona team is much weaker now. They will play against Dynamo Kyve without Messi. Barcelona's defense is very weak. I think this match will be a draw, otherwise Barcelona will lose today.
The teams you choose will win today if no miracles happen. I will put my bet on every team you selected.