⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!

[ingiltere]

I don't think Real Madrid is that good though, their odd is (20.0) fair enough. Bayern München odd is 2.75 which makes them heavy favorites. I wouldn't bet for this odd at this stage of Champions League. Yes they are favorites but this type of long term bet should be more rewardful to attract gamblers.
I don't have a favorite yet because we are still in group stage which is too early to make predictions. Champions League fight starts after 1/8 games.

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[Bttzed03]

(odds from Bitsler)

The same with the favorite teams to win the UCL. Two English teams (Man City and Liverpool), one from Germany (Bayern Munich), followed by two teams from Spanish La Liga (Real Madrid & FC Barcelona), then one from Italy's Serie A (Juventus).

It's going to be either Bayern Munich or Liverpool. I have a feeling that Man City will choke (again) in the QF or SF.

[Juggy777]

The same with the favorite teams to win the UCL. Two English teams (Man City and Liverpool), one from Germany (Bayern Munich), followed by two teams from Spanish La Liga (Real Madrid & FC Barcelona), then one from Italy's Serie A (Juventus).

It's going to be either Bayern Munich or Liverpool. I have a feeling that Man City will choke (again) in the QF or SF.

@Bttzed03 Manchester City are having a poor season, and I would not even consider them to win anything this season. Liverpool on the other hand yet have the hunger to win, but I feel that with their weak defenders they won’t be able to compete in the champions league. Lastly I feel that Bayern will win this league again, because they have a very strong squad and they simply look unbeatable to me.

Sources:

https://www.espn.com/football/manchester-city/story/4218136/man-citys-worst-start-under-guardiola-is-down-the-club-losing-their-touch-in-the-transfer-market

https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/liverpools-narrow-champions-league-win-reveals-a-fragile-defense-with-without-virgil-van-dijk-211835565.html

https://betting.betfair.com/football/football-tips/champions-league-tips-back-favourites-bayern-but-take-a-chance-on-a-few-outsiders-191020-722.html

[babo]

Well yeah contact sports obviously, when you are talking about something like golf, you do not really need that much covid prevention, it is just you and few other golfers who you can stay away from and your caddy that's it. At the end of the day most of the sports that are watched at the highest level are contact sports, not really fighting level of contact (which they do get watched as well) but more like team sports which players touch each other.

Sure maybe some boxing game could get views more than a Southampton vs Brighton game but if you look at the league we are seeing 30-40 games a week from big nations leagues every week and when you combine that it is 100x more than boxing or ufc of golf because those are less common and happens once every few months only. So, I think covid prevention and cautions for sports are direly important.

that's exactly what I say too, unfortunately being this kind of sport we have to act accordingly - clearly non-contact sports are not affected - it is necessary to limit the infected players, access to the stadium must be limited

ok it's sad, but at least we can see it on tv

[Raflesia]

The current odds to become champion of Europe. What do you think, who will win the trophy?
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It's very difficult to guess there is still a long way to go, but my favorite team is Madrid. But I'm not sure about their current situation. Unless they fix their problem on the next transfer by buying a new player. Meanwhile, if I look at their games in the group qualifiers and competitions in their country, of course I would prefer Bayern Munich to win again even though I'm not happy.

Normally Zidane is able to change in the middle of this trip and is still an allowance and must be able to continue in order to fix the problems we have faced, I am sure Zidane has strong tactics and currently they need players who can be relied on, maybe this will be a challenge for him to front?

I don't know why I really believe in Real Madrid even though it lost in the LaLiga with Valencia, I really want Zidane to be able to change the squad in his team.

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[slaman29]

^^ Yeah, impossible for me to see City as winning it. They have been among the favorites to win it for 4 seasons in a row now but only Bayern last season looked like they were going to win it in every game from the start. However, even when Liverpool won it, they were wobbly all the way, and in the season before that Real were looking like that, so City could still win it. Coin flip, some pundit said, and I agree.

Hence 12x for Barca good value to me;)

[Oneandpure]

^^ Yeah, impossible for me to see City as winning it. They have been among the favorites to win it for 4 seasons in a row now but only Bayern last season looked like they were going to win it in every game from the start. However, even when Liverpool won it, they were wobbly all the way, and in the season before that Real were looking like that, so City could still win it. Coin flip, some pundit said, and I agree.

Hence 12x for Barca good value to me;)

I think strong financial strength does not guarantee Manchester City to win, every year City get new player with higher price and alot of billion dollar out to buy new player and star player to etihad stadium but never give good promise for Manchester City become champion of champions league. After failed with many coach Manchester City try to get Pep Guardiola because he was success give trophy of champion league for Barcelona but almost five years in City he was failed out, never bring Manchester City to final champion league any more, I think mentality is needed how to get trophy of champion league.

[sana54210]

Liverpool didn't really played that well last year on champions league, after winning it they looked like they were done with it and focusing on the league because on the year they won the champions league they lost to city in the league, whereas the year they won in the premier league they lost in champions league.

So, they will probably want to focus on winning both the league and the champions league at the same time this year, even if they fail to do either of them, they already got it once each in the past 2 years so that is not really a big deal anymore, which gives them some breathing room to play a bit more relaxed and I feel like not being stressed about stuff like these could make a team play not at 100% and have a doubt, but being relaxed could give your 100% because you just want to have fun.

[coinlocket$]

Bayern Munich 11/4
Manchester City 4/1
Liverpool 6/1
Barcelona 12/1
PSG 14/1
Juventus 16/1
Real Madrid 16/1

Every year we have amazing odds for Manchester City and every year they are destroyed before the Semifinals 

My bet for this year is for Bayern and second place again for PSG.

PSG have the potential to be unbeatable if both Neymar and Mbappè are in the right evening.

[hahay]

The English teams who have competed at UCL this season are looking well, as in fact all of them are top of the standings. That way I'm sure all English teams will advance to the next round, because even though the English team not be able to maintain the standings but at least the chance to be runner-up is still possible to maintain. Experienced coaches like Pep still won't guarantee even if they have a squad of star players, look what happened to Mou because all of that has its time.

[skarais]

The English teams who have competed at UCL this season are looking well, as in fact all of them are top of the standings. That way I'm sure all English teams will advance to the next round, because even though the English team not be able to maintain the standings but at least the chance to be runner-up is still possible to maintain. Experienced coaches like Pep still won't guarantee even if they have a squad of star players, look what happened to Mou because all of that has its time.

It's always been a tough job for any coach to win the Champion despite having a squad full of star player. Barcelona, ​​Real Madrid, Liverpool, Manchester City, Bayern Munich, Juventus are some of the name of the team that have been able to reach the Champion Final this season in my opinion. But everything is still uncertain because this season has too many surprises. I hope Barcelona will return to its former glory with Koeman, but I'm not sure that will happen.
The English team are still leading the standing for their respective group, looks good but we'll see how they are able to survive after reaching the last 16.

[snipie]

It is strange that Manchester city shows so little internationally. Last season also gloriously down against a French team. And no, was not PSG. Thought Marseille or Lyon. they never win the Champions League this way.

It was Lyon winning with 3 goals vs 1 for City. City is struggling even in EPL although having money, good manager and relatively big names...

[MusaMohamed]

Pep Guardiola has a good team. And there are many talented players in the squad. But they are not performing well this season. Despite having such a tough squad and experienced coaches, Man City are still unable to get back on track. The champion league is very competitive. So if Man City doesn’t get back on track very soon, they will be out of the title fight.

The quality of Manchester City players is unbalance. Their forwards, strikers and attacking midfielders are strong but their defenders (central) are weak. Their swing back defenders are better in attacking support rather than their main works defense.

Guardiola through his career has never built up a good defense system from Barca to Bayern Munich and Manchester City.

[babo]

I totally agree with you. Manchester City is a very good team, no doubt about it. But the team is unbalanced. Their midfielders and forwards are very good. I think this is one of the stable midfielder and forword lineup in the world. But they need a little change in defense. Although I don't think their defense is too bad. If you look at their games, the opponents didn't score much against them.

the power of manchester city... its power is to be unpredictable in my opinion

yes agree, is unbalanced team (not much) but remember
in this game you win if you score more goals --> do not avoid more

if you play defense you do two unfair things
- one in the long run you risk taking a goal
- second (most importantly) kill spectator entertainment


the best defense is offense

[Furious 7]

I totally agree with you. Manchester City is a very good team, no doubt about it. But the team is unbalanced. Their midfielders and forwards are very good. I think this is one of the stable midfielder and forword lineup in the world. But they need a little change in defense. Although I don't think their defense is too bad. If you look at their games, the opponents didn't score much against them.

I am sure Pep Guardiola is able to change their attitude in his squad even in defense it can be improved maybe after the transfer season opens so that a reshuffle can occur in defense. I also want Pep to take one more attacker to be even more deadly like Chelsea who recruited Werner. So the front line will look more aggressive than the current one, but at this stage Manchester City is quite safe.

[Avirunes]

But they need a little change in defense. Although I don't think their defense is too bad. If you look at their games, the opponents didn't score much against them.

They have gone though some changes in defence like Dias  Ake and changes need time to settle in. Despite that they are playing ok. Right now their attack is letting a bit down. I think Guardiola should give some more playing minutes to Torres. He is young and quite a rising player.

[cryptofrka]

I also think Ferran Torres is a talented defender now. He will play better in the future if given more chance. Guoardiola is a very experienced coach. He may know better which player is necessary for his team. Nevertheless, I hope Guardiola give more chance to  Ferran Torrs to express his talent.

Yeah? Would you say he's better at tackling, heading or clearing the ball from the box?

[kassex]

The English teams who have competed at UCL this season are looking well, as in fact all of them are top of the standings. That way I'm sure all English teams will advance to the next round, because even though the English team not be able to maintain the standings but at least the chance to be runner-up is still possible to maintain. Experienced coaches like Pep still won't guarantee even if they have a squad of star players, look what happened to Mou because all of that has its time.

It's always been a tough job for any coach to win the Champion despite having a squad full of star player. Barcelona, ​​Real Madrid, Liverpool, Manchester City, Bayern Munich, Juventus are some of the name of the team that have been able to reach the Champion Final this season in my opinion. But everything is still uncertain because this season has too many surprises. I hope Barcelona will return to its former glory with Koeman, but I'm not sure that will happen.
The English team are still leading the standing for their respective group, looks good but we'll see how they are able to survive after reaching the last 16.

Barcelona and Real Madrid are too many problems, a lot of old players, and young players have no experience yet.
Juventus relies on experience and therefore loses constantly. Now we need more physically strong players, and there are very few of them in Juventus.
Bayern and Liverpool are likely to play in the final and are more realistic candidates for the final this season.

[emrecemsan]

I think the favorite team for winning the Champions League Cup this season are Bayern Munich. In my opinion, the only teams that can make Bayern Munich have difficulty are Liverpool and Manchester City. But I believe that Bayern will win the cup.