⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!

[kawetsriyanto]

Pirlo need time to manage clubs like Juventus, I think his decision to accept Juventus offer is bad decision.

Indeed, he needs time to manage Juventus. Moreover, he is not an experienced coach, he is an experienced player. It has many differences, so even Pirlo is good as a player, it doesn't guarantee he can be easy to be a good coach. It should take time and big efforts.

Pirlo vs Koeman, like Senior and Newbie, ~

Who is the Senior one? Koeman, right? 
Check again your sentence, seems to have a little mistake there.
Reading it, I interpret Pirlo is the senior one.

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[logfiles]

They were UCL semifinalist last season tho.
They sold some good players like T. Werner. It can be a reason too.
We will see it more clear on the matchday 3 next week. Leipzig vs PSG will be a good match to watch.
I hope they are not a one-season-wonder team (UCL edition)  

This kind of thing happen almost every season. Remember Monaco and Ajax?
Whenever underdogs reach semi-finals or finals, there always those top players that impress European top clubs and as soon as the transfer market begins. Most of those players are bought off rendering the underdogs weaker for the next season. I don't think Leipzig will even manage to go past group stages.

[Smartvirus]

Most of those players are bought off rendering the underdogs weaker for the next season. I don't think Leipzig will even manage to go past group stages.

That's the thing, it's always up to the players and the clubs at times. They are at liberty to accept transfer offers or not. It's always certain that these offers for top and promising players of a mid tier team are always sort out and this teams blindly sells them off, maybe it's just a business of staying in the leagues for them, rather than contesting for the trophy. That's how far their dreams have been shattered and worst of it all, the players always seem to see a better chance at decorating their wall of fame with won trophies with big teams so, they've just got to live.

On the part of Liepzig, I believe your saying that following there recent 5-0 lose to Manchester United. I see Manchester United did it this time but then, it's enough to make Liepzig want to do better. Let's keep watch.

[babo]

Pirlo need time to manage clubs like Juventus, I think his decision to accept Juventus offer is bad decision. Gattuso, Seedorf and Inzaghi starting from Milan Primavera, they are also failed managed AC Milan. Gattuso not bad enough but his decision to cut their contracts is a good decision, because i think he is thinking if he doesn't have capability to manage Milan. Pirlo vs Koeman, like Senior and Newbie, this match results not just because Juventus tired but also Koeman have better strategy also better team players.

Honestly i think isnt an Coach issue.. they seem out of shape almost tired, so it's probably an athletic training problem (obviously in my opinion).
The coach is good person for me, they need to recover the good shape.

I remember in the days of Del Piero there was a very good physical trainer.. but they fall in the dust because use creatina on DelPiero..

[Darkoth89]

Pirlo need time to manage clubs like Juventus, I think his decision to accept Juventus offer is bad decision. Gattuso, Seedorf and Inzaghi starting from Milan Primavera, they are also failed managed AC Milan. Gattuso not bad enough but his decision to cut their contracts is a good decision, because i think he is thinking if he doesn't have capability to manage Milan. Pirlo vs Koeman, like Senior and Newbie, this match results not just because Juventus tired but also Koeman have better strategy also better team players.

Honestly i think isnt an Coach issue.. they seem out of shape almost tired, so it's probably an athletic training problem (obviously in my opinion).
The coach is good person for me, they need to recover the good shape.

I remember in the days of Del Piero there was a very good physical trainer.. but they fall in the dust because use creatina on DelPiero..

The atheltic coach is part of the training staff  .... And how could you decide that Pirlo is a good coach? He was a legendary player but that doesn't mean he's a good coach, too. And as a coach he has no experience (except some matches for the U23) and therefore hasn't  any record of success. I wasn't really a fan when they made him coach. They should have given him some time to get experience before they threw him in at the deep end.

[kawetsriyanto]

He was a legendary player but that doesn't mean he's a good coach, too. And as a coach he has no experience (except some matches for the U23) and therefore hasn't  any record of success.

Yes, people state Pirlo potentially becomes a good coach because he has a great experience once he was a player. Also, he was a midfielder who basically plans the strategy for the team to attack or defend (besides the coach), so I think people have reasons to claim him to be a good coach. But yes I agree with you if now he isn't a good coach yet. However, you also can't claim him as a bad coach as well. He just started his career as the coach of a big team, he needs time to show his skills or his potential. 

[MCobian]

He was a legendary player but that doesn't mean he's a good coach, too. And as a coach he has no experience (except some matches for the U23) and therefore hasn't  any record of success.

Yes, people state Pirlo potentially becomes a good coach because he has a great experience once he was a player. Also, he was a midfielder who basically plans the strategy for the team to attack or defend (besides the coach), so I think people have reasons to claim him to be a good coach. But yes I agree with you if now he isn't a good coach yet. However, you also can't claim him as a bad coach as well. He just started his career as the coach of a big team, he needs time to show his skills or his potential. 

I agree that Pirlo needs time to show his potential as a coach, because Pirlo's lack is experience. He needs this season to learn to bring out
his skills in making a good strategy for Juventus, therefore do not get your hopes up that Juventus will win many trophies this season.
Because Pirlo needs to adapt first, but I believe Pirlo can be a great coach, we give Pirlo the opportunity this season to learn.

[Joca97]

He was a legendary player but that doesn't mean he's a good coach, too. And as a coach he has no experience (except some matches for the U23) and therefore hasn't  any record of success.

Yes, people state Pirlo potentially becomes a good coach because he has a great experience once he was a player. Also, he was a midfielder who basically plans the strategy for the team to attack or defend (besides the coach), so I think people have reasons to claim him to be a good coach. But yes I agree with you if now he isn't a good coach yet. However, you also can't claim him as a bad coach as well. He just started his career as the coach of a big team, he needs time to show his skills or his potential. 

I agree that Pirlo needs time to show his potential as a coach, because Pirlo's lack is experience. He needs this season to learn to bring out
his skills in making a good strategy for Juventus, therefore do not get your hopes up that Juventus will win many trophies this season.
Because Pirlo needs to adapt first, but I believe Pirlo can be a great coach, we give Pirlo the opportunity this season to learn.

He is giving a lot of chances to younger players,Juventus was always an old team and that team gaved results by winning 8th scudetos in a row,but i think this is the year Juve wont win it,Pirlo has no experience and i think his tactics might not bring anything Juventus good this season.
They need more new good players,no good transfer this summer transfer window

[Onuohakk]

He was a legendary player but that doesn't mean he's a good coach, too. And as a coach he has no experience (except some matches for the U23) and therefore hasn't  any record of success.

Yes, people state Pirlo potentially becomes a good coach because he has a great experience once he was a player. Also, he was a midfielder who basically plans the strategy for the team to attack or defend (besides the coach), so I think people have reasons to claim him to be a good coach. But yes I agree with you if now he isn't a good coach yet. However, you also can't claim him as a bad coach as well. He just started his career as the coach of a big team, he needs time to show his skills or his potential. 

I agree that Pirlo needs time to show his potential as a coach, because Pirlo's lack is experience. He needs this season to learn to bring out
his skills in making a good strategy for Juventus, therefore do not get your hopes up that Juventus will win many trophies this season.
Because Pirlo needs to adapt first, but I believe Pirlo can be a great coach, we give Pirlo the opportunity this season to learn.

He is giving a lot of chances to younger players,Juventus was always an old team and that team gaved results by winning 8th scudetos in a row,but i think this is the year Juve wont win it,Pirlo has no experience and i think his tactics might not bring anything Juventus good this season.
They need more new good players,no good transfer this summer transfer window

It serves Juventus right for selling off Moise Kean who gave PSG a brace & Morata got nothing less than a hat trick of canceled goals....what a wack player!!
Ronaldo was highly missed, due to covid19. Presently now, he's covid19 free. Juventus next match, he will be available
Barca also gets to break the record in Turin on their first win

[cygan]

Ahead of Ronaldinho, Shevchenko & Co.
Most goals after 10 games: Haaland breaks Champions League record

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/most-goals-after-10-games-haaland-breaks-champions-league-record/view/news/373736

in his tenth game in the ucl, the 20-year-old has now scored 12 goals, more than any other player at the same stage of his career

[slapper]

in the game manunited vs. rb leipzig (5-0) you can see very clearly how important international experience is in such games.
rb leipzig is a very strong national team and had no chance to win against the english team yesterday.
it will be very difficult for leipzig to finish the group phase under the first two places...

Man United have long experience in international play against Rb Leipzig like it was very easy for ManUTD yesterday I don't know why Leipzig's performances are so bad they should be stronger which I know in the Bundesliga.
Competing with PSG, of course, will be very difficult where this group phase has only 2 matches left so as much as possible you have to win between PSG and Leipzig if you want to escape one of them.

It was a mistake and I believe Leipzig knows what their weakness is in order to improve for the upcoming matches. Why weren't people surprised with a sudden change in the spirit of MU. They are really bad right now although MU is one of the richest teams on this planet.

Don't underestimate Leipzig. Anything can happen in football. Moreover, they have been considered a strong team. They surely know how to defeat or at least find a draw match with PSG

[-CryptoViking-]

It was a mistake and I believe Leipzig knows what their weakness is in order to improve for the upcoming matches. Why weren't people surprised with a sudden change in the spirit of MU. They are really bad right now although MU is one of the richest teams on this planet.

Don't underestimate Leipzig. Anything can happen in football. Moreover, they have been considered a strong team. They surely know how to defeat or at least find a draw match with PSG

I agree with you, Leipzig can win against PSG, people react like this after big loses, but in reality PSG is not playing any special football this season and Leipzig has a young squad that can one match play awesome and then underperform inn the next one.

I would not write them off yet for sure.

[kawetsriyanto]

~I believe Pirlo can be a great coach, we give Pirlo the opportunity this season to learn.

I also think the same, Pirlo has a big potential to be a great coach in the future. Sure, he needs time to learn and take experiences. Once you become a coach, it is quite different than being a player. A coach should know more complex things in a match, he must master the strategy and have the responsibility to rise up the motivation of all players (before and during the match). Also, he must decide which players to put as the starters and which ones to be substituted players. A coach also needs to learn how to get the right solution for unexpected situations happening during the match.

[babo]

The atheltic coach is part of the training staff  .... And how could you decide that Pirlo is a good coach? He was a legendary player but that doesn't mean he's a good coach, too. And as a coach he has no experience (except some matches for the U23) and therefore hasn't  any record of success. I wasn't really a fan when they made him coach. They should have given him some time to get experience before they threw him in at the deep end.

because Pirlo has always played as a strategist, it is no coincidence that he was in the center of the field.
and also because he was a person who made himself loved in the locker room, a sign that he has a good character and knows how to relate to people

a good person and speaking and strategy, in my opinion he has what it takes to be a good coach

[tokeweed]

He was a legendary player but that doesn't mean he's a good coach, too. And as a coach he has no experience (except some matches for the U23) and therefore hasn't  any record of success.

Yes, people state Pirlo potentially becomes a good coach because he has a great experience once he was a player. Also, he was a midfielder who basically plans the strategy for the team to attack or defend (besides the coach), so I think people have reasons to claim him to be a good coach. But yes I agree with you if now he isn't a good coach yet. However, you also can't claim him as a bad coach as well. He just started his career as the coach of a big team, he needs time to show his skills or his potential.  

I agree that Pirlo needs time to show his potential as a coach, because Pirlo's lack is experience. He needs this season to learn to bring out
his skills in making a good strategy for Juventus, therefore do not get your hopes up that Juventus will win many trophies this season.
Because Pirlo needs to adapt first, but I believe Pirlo can be a great coach, we give Pirlo the opportunity this season to learn.

The problem is...  Does he really have potential?

**Insert Ronaldo doesn't listen to Pirlo meme.jpg**

Anyway..  Lukaku and Sanchez injured for Inter and Real Madrid desperate for a W.  I got Real ML at 1.92.  And got a parlay with Cheslea and Man United to win vs lower tier clubs at 1.98ish.  

What do you guys think?

[Naida_BR]

~I believe Pirlo can be a great coach, we give Pirlo the opportunity this season to learn.

I also think the same, Pirlo has a big potential to be a great coach in the future. Sure, he needs time to learn and take experiences. Once you become a coach, it is quite different than being a player. A coach should know more complex things in a match, he must master the strategy and have the responsibility to rise up the motivation of all players (before and during the match). Also, he must decide which players to put as the starters and which ones to be substituted players. A coach also needs to learn how to get the right solution for unexpected situations happening during the match.

I think that he will be more like Conte - they have also the same style!
It is good to see players from the Golden era of Milan such as Gattuso, Pirlo, Maldini ,etc to see them in more administrative positions
Fans are always reluctant to the coach during the first season so it is totally a good opportunity for Pirlo to learn and improve his skills and coaching abilities.

[asus09]

~I believe Pirlo can be a great coach, we give Pirlo the opportunity this season to learn.

I also think the same, Pirlo has a big potential to be a great coach in the future. Sure, he needs time to learn and take experiences. Once you become a coach, it is quite different than being a player. A coach should know more complex things in a match, he must master the strategy and have the responsibility to rise up the motivation of all players (before and during the match). Also, he must decide which players to put as the starters and which ones to be substituted players. A coach also needs to learn how to get the right solution for unexpected situations happening during the match.

I think that he will be more like Conte - they have also the same style!
It is good to see players from the Golden era of Milan such as Gattuso, Pirlo, Maldini ,etc to see them in more administrative positions
Fans are always reluctant to the coach during the first season so it is totally a good opportunity for Pirlo to learn and improve his skills and coaching abilities.

I like Andrea Pirlo have calm style how ever with his team performance win or loss he always calm and take cool, I think he look like  Zidane always protect and support his player although loss, never make mistake and fault when his team lost. Need time for Andrea Pirlo how to bring Juventus back to era Conte where become the champion of Serie A and Allegri moment could bring to final Champion League before defeat by Barcelona, every coach have different style with team games need more than one or two months to adopt his style for Juventus and give more winner defend the title of scudetto and get lucky with champion league.

[Bttzed03]

Atalanta vs. Liverpool - pretty good odds for Liverpool here @2.1 (Bitsler) Do you think Atalanta can contain them? Will LFC pump the break and rest some key players?

Another one I'm looking at is RB Leipzig vs. PSG - RBL plays at home but PSG remains the favorite and at pretty good odds too at 2.23 (Bitsler). What's your take?

[coinlocket$]

Next Turn

Tuesday 3rd November
Lokomotiv Moscow 17:55 Atletico Madrid
Shakhtar Donetsk 17:55 M'gladbach
Atalanta 20:00 Liverpool
FC Midtjylland 20:00 Ajax
FC Porto 20:00 Marseille
Manchester City 20:00 Olympiakos FC
Real Madrid 20:00 Inter Milan
Red Bull Salzburg 20:00 Bayern Munich

Source: https://www.skysports.com/champions-league-fixtures


Big game Real-Inter, a game for In or Out from the Champions, who will lose it will probably out from the Champions.
Actually Real has 1 point and Inter 2.

Hala Madrid

[tokeweed]

^  Inter not having Lukaku available to play is a huge blow.  I'm not totally familiar with Inter's squad but my initial impression would be Real's has the better squad...

Oh and just heard that covid has spread at Ajax.  Lots of players getting sick.