⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!

[suzanne5223]

I feel that financial fair play and justice just died yesterday 😀
Everything is about money of course and now there is no limits what others clubs like Paris SG can do and how much their rich owners can invest in new players.
Small clubs have no chance in this game any more and real sport just died.

Though I am a neutral when it comes to teams that play in the English Premier League, but I was very disappointed by yesterday's decision to lift that Manchester City ban. What's the point of FFP is some rich clubs can just circumvent the imposed bans and rules? 

Youre disappointed because the ban on Manchester city was lifted? Are you aware that Pep also demanded for an apology?
Which shows that there are political parties in every setting around the world because overstated sponsorship revenue and breaking of information in accounts submitted to UEFA is a serious violation and shouldn't be unpunished.

[slaman29]

Am not a Manchester city fan, but for any one that loves good football and -will not face Manchester city at that point- will like to watch them in the UEFA champions league, this is good tidings for the citizens the famous noisy neighbors, they will become real challengers/contenders for the UEFA champions league, well so much for teams hoping if the come in at 5th place and have a shot at an UEFA champions league spot, every team now has to fight for the prestigious top four finish.

I agree here. Not a City fan, and even as a neutral I think most people will feel they are not a really "feel good" club and remember, they still got fined 10 million euros, so that is a HUGE fine and it means they did something wrong. Not cooperating was their crime I believe and this still says a lot about who they are.

That aside, the football they play now is worth watching so on the field, we are all happier to see City play, but sadder that the rules seem to bend for the rich.

[swogerino]

Am not a Manchester city fan, but for any one that loves good football and -will not face Manchester city at that point- will like to watch them in the UEFA champions league, this is good tidings for the citizens the famous noisy neighbors, they will become real challengers/contenders for the UEFA champions league, well so much for teams hoping if the come in at 5th place and have a shot at an UEFA champions league spot, every team now has to fight for the prestigious top four finish.

I agree here. Not a City fan, and even as a neutral I think most people will feel they are not a really "feel good" club and remember, they still got fined 10 million euros, so that is a HUGE fine and it means they did something wrong. Not cooperating was their crime I believe and this still says a lot about who they are.

That aside, the football they play now is worth watching so on the field, we are all happier to see City play, but sadder that the rules seem to bend for the rich.

In almost all countries and almost everywhere in the world it seems rules to bend for the rich people.I like the way Manchester City play and they are a good addition to Champions League in every year they play there.Now they even seem to be the nr 1 contestant to win the Champions this year.If they beat Real Madrid a true opportunity for them to win the Champions League.

[Raflesia]

In almost all countries and almost everywhere in the world it seems rules to bend for the rich people.I like the way Manchester City play and they are a good addition to Champions League in every year they play there.Now they even seem to be the nr 1 contestant to win the Champions this year.If they beat Real Madrid a true opportunity for them to win the Champions League.

That is the reason why Manchester City will continue to have ambitions against Real Madrid having to win because they have strong mental beliefs and this is also a chance because in the first leg they have won and we are just waiting for the final result of the second leg will this match be sweet fruit for Manchester city or vice versa?
Hmm this is difficult to predict with a large team that has a lot of CL trophy titles.

[coinlocket$]

I also think Atalanta have a chance to win the CL, maybe a small bet on them will be worthy.

The odds are not so good anyway, they are not stupid.


    Manchester City @ 3/1
    Bayern Munich @ 10/3
    PSG @ 5/1
    Barcelona @ 8/1
    Atletico Madrid @ 9/1
    Atalanta @ 10/1
    RB Leipzig @ 14/1
    Juventus @ 16/1
    Real Madrid @ 30/1
    Napoli @ 75/1
    Lyon @ 100/1
    Chelsea @ 250/1

According to here: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/betting/football/champions-league-winner-betting-tips/

Real Madrid has better odds LOL

Something bust be wrong here.

[LTU_btc]

I also think Atalanta have a chance to win the CL, maybe a small bet on them will be worthy.

The odds are not so good anyway, they are not stupid.

I'm not sure that they can win Champions league, but I believe that can get through PSG. In single leg format their chances becomes better. Yesterday I watched their game in Serie A and I was simply amazed to see how they are playing. They scored almost 100 goals in Serie A season. Together with Bayern, Atalanta is hottest team in Europe right now.

[cryptofrka]

PSG will probably have a problem with match fitness. I don't know how they will prepare but most of other teams will be in perfect condition going into the CL games.

Even if PSG manages to play some friendly games, it will still be hard to reach the same level as their opponents. Considering it's a one-legged contest, there is no room for mistakes or extra preparations.

[Darkoth89]

PSG will probably have a problem with match fitness. I don't know how they will prepare but most of other teams will be in perfect condition going into the CL games.

Even if PSG manages to play some friendly games, it will still be hard to reach the same level as their opponents. Considering it's a one-legged contest, there is no room for mistakes or extra preparations.

That's defnitely going to be a disadvantage for PSG. On the other hand you could argue that their players will be well rested after almost 5 months without any official matches  I think Bayern and Leipzig have the best time schedule for the Champions League tournament in August. They had competition practice in the Bundesliga, still had time to give their players some days off for holiday and can now focus completely on the preparation for the remaining UCL matches. That's why I see Bayern as a big favourite to get the title this season.

[casperBGD]

PSG will probably have a problem with match fitness. I don't know how they will prepare but most of other teams will be in perfect condition going into the CL games.

Even if PSG manages to play some friendly games, it will still be hard to reach the same level as their opponents. Considering it's a one-legged contest, there is no room for mistakes or extra preparations.

That's defnitely going to be a disadvantage for PSG. On the other hand you could argue that their players will be well rested after almost 5 months without any official matches  I think Bayern and Leipzig have the best time schedule for the Champions League tournament in August. They had competition practice in the Bundesliga, still had time to give their players some days off for holiday and can now focus completely on the preparation for the remaining UCL matches. That's why I see Bayern as a big favourite to get the title this season.

Bayern is one the main favorites for CL title, but one should not leave out some other teams as well, primarily City, that is in great form at the end of Premier league
i would call for Atalanta as well, they are underdogs, but great team in great form
Leipzig does not have a team that could get the title, it is too much for them, IMO

[SquallLeonhart]

They are PSG though? I mean I get it they will have lack of match fitness and they will have to work harder than their opponent and will be tired pretty easily etc etc however they are not anywhere near Atlanta level in talent so they should be easily beating them.

However this is champions league, I can't say that anything would shock me, there has been so many times when the smaller team beat the bigger team to move on, even happened last year plenty of times, so I think it wouldn't be a huge shock to anyone if that happened again. PSG could probably fix that issue with hardcore training and tiring players up, if you make them run like hell constantly and train every part of their body, even if it is not match level ready, it would be quite ready to go out there and do whatever they can.

[Naida_BR]

PSG will probably have a problem with match fitness. I don't know how they will prepare but most of other teams will be in perfect condition going into the CL games.

Even if PSG manages to play some friendly games, it will still be hard to reach the same level as their opponents. Considering it's a one-legged contest, there is no room for mistakes or extra preparations.

That's defnitely going to be a disadvantage for PSG. On the other hand you could argue that their players will be well rested after almost 5 months without any official matches  I think Bayern and Leipzig have the best time schedule for the Champions League tournament in August. They had competition practice in the Bundesliga, still had time to give their players some days off for holiday and can now focus completely on the preparation for the remaining UCL matches. That's why I see Bayern as a big favourite to get the title this season.

Bayern is one the main favorites for CL title, but one should not leave out some other teams as well, primarily City, that is in great form at the end of Premier league
i would call for Atalanta as well, they are underdogs, but great team in great form
Leipzig does not have a team that could get the title, it is too much for them, IMO

Bayern is going to win the Champions League only if Lewandowski is going to be on top form in all games.
They have a great team but teams like Real Madrid or Barcelona seem to be stronger.
Lewandowski is a player that should win a Champions League title with Bayern for sure.

[Daniel91]

PSG will probably have a problem with match fitness. I don't know how they will prepare but most of other teams will be in perfect condition going into the CL games.

Even if PSG manages to play some friendly games, it will still be hard to reach the same level as their opponents. Considering it's a one-legged contest, there is no room for mistakes or extra preparations.

That's defnitely going to be a disadvantage for PSG. On the other hand you could argue that their players will be well rested after almost 5 months without any official matches  I think Bayern and Leipzig have the best time schedule for the Champions League tournament in August. They had competition practice in the Bundesliga, still had time to give their players some days off for holiday and can now focus completely on the preparation for the remaining UCL matches. That's why I see Bayern as a big favourite to get the title this season.

Bayern is one the main favorites for CL title, but one should not leave out some other teams as well, primarily City, that is in great form at the end of Premier league
i would call for Atalanta as well, they are underdogs, but great team in great form
Leipzig does not have a team that could get the title, it is too much for them, IMO

Don't forget Real,  Barcelona and Juventus.
All this clubs have a lot experience in CL and excellent players which can take responsibility and make difference in such important matches.
Barcelona and Juve didn't play well in the last matches but CL is something completely different,  new beginning and new competition.
All clubs will start from zero and all clubs have chance.
Of course,  Real is in the most difficult situation but still have chance and I'm sure they didn't give up.

[EdenHazard]

I also think Atalanta have a chance to win the CL, maybe a small bet on them will be worthy.

The odds are not so good anyway, they are not stupid.


    Manchester City @ 3/1
    Bayern Munich @ 10/3
    PSG @ 5/1
    Barcelona @ 8/1
    Atletico Madrid @ 9/1
    Atalanta @ 10/1
    RB Leipzig @ 14/1
    Juventus @ 16/1
    Real Madrid @ 30/1
    Napoli @ 75/1
    Lyon @ 100/1
    Chelsea @ 250/1

According to here: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/betting/football/champions-league-winner-betting-tips/

Real Madrid has better odds LOL

Something bust be wrong here.

Well they are losing 2-1  at bernabeu which means they conceded 2 goals and they have to score at least 2 to secure the situation.

But yeah with la liga title has been in their hand real madrid will have a full focus on Champions League, there's no better chance to get a very good price on a strong team like real madrid .. now or never to put your money on them.

If real madrid win they will face juventus or lyon ,
After that between barcelona, bayern munich, napoli or chelsea which yeah the odds are worthy.
The risk is there.

[bct_ail]

UEFA President Aleksander Čeferin does not seem to expect that fans will be able to watch a match in the stadium in the near future.

As a football fan, what do you think you'll feel when you next watch a UEFA match in a stadium?
I’m sure that it will be a great feeling… like everyone, I would feel even better if the fans were there. But I'm an optimistic person, and my great hope is that spectators will be able to return to our matches as soon as possible.

https://www.uefa.com/insideuefa/about-uefa/news/025f-0ff05058910a-7004c0b76a43-1000--uefa-president-on-covid-19-crisis/

[skarais]

UEFA President Aleksander Čeferin does not seem to expect that fans will be able to watch a match in the stadium in the near future.

As a football fan, what do you think you'll feel when you next watch a UEFA match in a stadium?
I’m sure that it will be a great feeling… like everyone, I would feel even better if the fans were there. But I'm an optimistic person, and my great hope is that spectators will be able to return to our matches as soon as possible.

https://www.uefa.com/insideuefa/about-uefa/news/025f-0ff05058910a-7004c0b76a43-1000--uefa-president-on-covid-19-crisis/

It look like the pandemic is still a big consideration for them to give permission to the fan watching directly at the stadium. It is good if they have good intention as a form of broader pandemic prevention. In the near future I am even very sure they will not let fan watch at the stadium and UEFA Champion organizer still seem to need time to think and determine the right time.

So far I think watching the game on television or streaming isnt too problematic for me, even though many people out there want to be able to watch it live in the stadium. However, we must accept the fact that obeying the rules as a form of organizers care for fan is the main thing. Prohibiting does not mean forever prohibited and this is only because of circumstance that do not allow.

[Darkoth89]

Not really related to the Champions League but interesting for the remaining Europa League matches: There is a positive Covid-19 case at the Swiss club FC Basel (https://www.en24.news/2020/07/covid-19-a-positive-case-at-fc-basel.html). They already won the first match against Eintracht Frankfurt 3-0 but what happens if more cases appear and their team has to go into quarantine? There has been a similar case at the FC Zürich. They were forced to send their U21 team into competition and lost their next match 4-0 in the league. If Basel has to face the same scenario that could destroy their perfect position from the first match.

[Bitcoin_Arena]

Not really related to the Champions League but interesting for the remaining Europa League matches: There is a positive Covid-19 case at the Swiss club FC Basel (https://www.en24.news/2020/07/covid-19-a-positive-case-at-fc-basel.html). They already won the first match against Eintracht Frankfurt 3-0 but what happens if more cases appear and their team has to go into quarantine? There has been a similar case at the FC Zürich. They were forced to send their U21 team into competition and lost their next match 4-0 in the league. If Basel has to face the same scenario that could destroy their perfect position from the first match.

I guess this is where isolation becomes very useful. Given the tight timeline, I think the leagues have get done at all costs by the end of next month so i don't think all team players would get infected at any given time frame. If all comes to the worst, while others get infected some will have recovered.

[bct_ail]

Not really related to the Champions League but interesting for the remaining Europa League matches: There is a positive Covid-19 case at the Swiss club FC Basel (https://www.en24.news/2020/07/covid-19-a-positive-case-at-fc-basel.html). They already won the first match against Eintracht Frankfurt 3-0 but what happens if more cases appear and their team has to go into quarantine? There has been a similar case at the FC Zürich. They were forced to send their U21 team into competition and lost their next match 4-0 in the league. If Basel has to face the same scenario that could destroy their perfect position from the first match.

I guess this is where isolation becomes very useful. Given the tight timeline, I think the leagues have get done at all costs by the end of next month so i don't think all team players would get infected at any given time frame. If all comes to the worst, while others get infected some will have recovered.

We had such a case in the second german bundesliga. Dresden were the one and only team who have had a Corona Case just before the new start. They couldn’t play and train, had to go into quarantine, 3 games were relocated and at the end they had to play 7 games within 19 days. The bitter end was they have relegate.

[LTU_btc]

Not really related to the Champions League but interesting for the remaining Europa League matches: There is a positive Covid-19 case at the Swiss club FC Basel (https://www.en24.news/2020/07/covid-19-a-positive-case-at-fc-basel.html). They already won the first match against Eintracht Frankfurt 3-0 but what happens if more cases appear and their team has to go into quarantine? There has been a similar case at the FC Zürich. They were forced to send their U21 team into competition and lost their next match 4-0 in the league. If Basel has to face the same scenario that could destroy their perfect position from the first match.

I guess this is where isolation becomes very useful. Given the tight timeline, I think the leagues have get done at all costs by the end of next month so i don't think all team players would get infected at any given time frame. If all comes to the worst, while others get infected some will have recovered.

We had such a case in the second german bundesliga. Dresden were the one and only team who have had a Corona Case just before the new start. They couldn’t play and train, had to go into quarantine, 3 games were relocated and at the end they had to play 7 games within 19 days. The bitter end was they have relegate.

But now main problem that there is simply no time left to reschedule games. So, I'm not really sure how to solve this problem. I remember recent case in Russia when there was few cases in one team and players and staff had to go into quarantine. So, they had to send their reserve team to the game and they got smashed 10:1... So, maybe such scenarios is possible in this case too..

[BuNga_cute]

Not really related to the Champions League but interesting for the remaining Europa League matches: There is a positive Covid-19 case at the Swiss club FC Basel (https://www.en24.news/2020/07/covid-19-a-positive-case-at-fc-basel.html). They already won the first match against Eintracht Frankfurt 3-0 but what happens if more cases appear and their team has to go into quarantine? There has been a similar case at the FC Zürich. They were forced to send their U21 team into competition and lost their next match 4-0 in the league. If Basel has to face the same scenario that could destroy their perfect position from the first match.

I guess this is where isolation becomes very useful. Given the tight timeline, I think the leagues have get done at all costs by the end of next month so i don't think all team players would get infected at any given time frame. If all comes to the worst, while others get infected some will have recovered.

We had such a case in the second german bundesliga. Dresden were the one and only team who have had a Corona Case just before the new start. They couldn’t play and train, had to go into quarantine, 3 games were relocated and at the end they had to play 7 games within 19 days. The bitter end was they have relegate.

But now main problem that there is simply no time left to reschedule games. So, I'm not really sure how to solve this problem. I remember recent case in Russia when there was few cases in one team and players and staff had to go into quarantine. So, they had to send their reserve team to the game and they got smashed 10:1... So, maybe such scenarios is possible in this case too..

I agree there is no time if have to reschedule games, the best alternative is to have to use a reserve team to play. So the match remains
on schedule, but the risk of the reserve team losing is indeed likely to occur. This is a risk that must occur if a team is infected with the corona
virus, so we hope that the vaccine can soon found. So we can return to normal life again.