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July 24, 2020, 09:02:58 PM
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That's horrible and definitely deserves red card. I can feel his pain from here, hope he can recover as soon as possible... I read they have another injury in PSG which is hard to replace.

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July 24, 2020, 09:22:54 PM
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That's horrible and definitely deserves red card. I can feel his pain from here, hope he can recover as soon as possible... I read they have another injury in PSG which is hard to replace.
Very bad injury on very crucial time as now they are going to face Atlanta after 19 days latest news about this is he is still feeling serious pain and now need some good time to recover this all we only can hope he will fit for facing Atlanta in very important match.
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July 24, 2020, 10:33:37 PM
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Atalanta is the most beautiful fairy tale of the last 40 years of Italian football, it reminds me very much of Leicester and Leipzig, but unlike them they don't have the opportunity to win the championship, but in my opinion it will make a great game against PSG and give us a dream, what do you think?


sure, I agree everything you say about this small team with great potential!
I think the chances of winning the cup are very low (for lack of experience) but it will certainly give headaches to the bigger teams ahahaha
I think they will fear it (i hope)

Atalanta in the Champions League reminds me a lot of Ajax from last season. It would be such a great story for them reaching the next round. And I think the way these remaining matches are played out favours teams like Atalanta. At first I can totally see them beating PSG in the quarter finals. Paris is completely out of the playing rhythm and Atalanta is looking very strong since the restart of the Serie A. Then they would face Napoli, Barca or Bayern (don't think Chelsea has a chance against Bayern). Though game but everything is possible. Especially since these last games are played in a tournament-style.

exactly, Atalanta is very reminiscent of last year's Ajax, but Atalanta doesn't have the same glorious history as Ajax, which makes it more fascinating.

Atalanta is a team only a few teams would want to play in europe, irregardless of their history, one certain facts about this atalanta team is that they are going to score against you, to overcome them, psg must plan yo outscore atalanta or risk going to penalty kicks. Psg suffered injury to mbappe and knocks to neymar, hopefully they recover soon to provide necessary firepower for psg

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July 25, 2020, 08:30:13 AM
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exactly, Atalanta is very reminiscent of last year's Ajax, but Atalanta doesn't have the same glorious history as Ajax, which makes it more fascinating.

Atalanta have great history of success, i mean spring team.
it cultivates talents which it then resells to maintain the system, perhaps the most famous was Nichi Ventola.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicola_Ventola
remember that he played in the national team!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atalanta_B.C.

if you see, much italian players!

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July 25, 2020, 09:03:33 AM
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exactly, Atalanta is very reminiscent of last year's Ajax, but Atalanta doesn't have the same glorious history as Ajax, which makes it more fascinating.

Atalanta have great history of success, i mean spring team.
it cultivates talents which it then resells to maintain the system, perhaps the most famous was Nichi Ventola.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicola_Ventola
remember that he played in the national team!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atalanta_B.C.

if you see, much italian players!

I’d love to see Atalanta win the CL, it’d be a great story built on passion, desire & hunger, no big egos & stupid money like big Eurooean clubs. I love to cheer on the underdog so I will be rooting for them.

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July 25, 2020, 09:46:19 AM
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PSG striker K. Mbappe just got a very nasty tackle from Saint- Etienne in Coupe de France finale. . I think his season is over. If it happens PSG will be in very bad situation in UCL. They also did a bad tackle on Neymar also. Though he scored on goal already and PSG is leading the game by 1-0. Coach should take off Neymar in the 2nd half. It will be better for them. Also, wish a very fast recovery for Mbappe.


Click the image to see the gif, don't know why the gif is not working.

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That's horrible and definitely deserves red card. I can feel his pain from here, hope he can recover as soon as possible... I read they have another injury in PSG which is hard to replace.

@Fatemablabla it was indeed a horrible tackle and the referee foolishly gave away a yellow card first, and only after VAR intervened he issued a red card. Also what’s worst was the brawl that followed while Mbappe was down crying in pain, and in that moment all the player’s broke all the rules relating to social distancing.


Atalanta is the most beautiful fairy tale of the last 40 years of Italian football, it reminds me very much of Leicester and Leipzig, but unlike them they don't have the opportunity to win the championship, but in my opinion it will make a great game against PSG and give us a dream, what do you think?


sure, I agree everything you say about this small team with great potential!
I think the chances of winning the cup are very low (for lack of experience) but it will certainly give headaches to the bigger teams ahahaha
I think they will fear it (i hope)

Atalanta in the Champions League reminds me a lot of Ajax from last season. It would be such a great story for them reaching the next round. And I think the way these remaining matches are played out favours teams like Atalanta. At first I can totally see them beating PSG in the quarter finals. Paris is completely out of the playing rhythm and Atalanta is looking very strong since the restart of the Serie A. Then they would face Napoli, Barca or Bayern (don't think Chelsea has a chance against Bayern). Though game but everything is possible. Especially since these last games are played in a tournament-style.

exactly, Atalanta is very reminiscent of last year's Ajax, but Atalanta doesn't have the same glorious history as Ajax, which makes it more fascinating.

Atalanta is a team only a few teams would want to play in europe, irregardless of their history, one certain facts about this atalanta team is that they are going to score against you, to overcome them, psg must plan yo outscore atalanta or risk going to penalty kicks. Psg suffered injury to mbappe and knocks to neymar, hopefully they recover soon to provide necessary firepower for psg

Atlanta have an excellent chance of progressing ahead because Mbappe is almost ruled out of the champions league, hence if they’re successful in neutralising Neymar then they can definitely fancy their chances of progressing ahead.

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Video of that horrible tackle: https://twitter.com/SnapGoal/status/1286749663706722306

https://www.foxsports.com.au/football/ligue-1/kylian-mbappe-on-crutches-after-horror-tackle-news-video-psg-win-french-cup-final/news-story/5d14ae7db341e85147cc57a04bd149a7



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July 25, 2020, 10:18:43 AM
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I’d love to see Atalanta win the CL, it’d be a great story built on passion, desire & hunger, no big egos & stupid money like big Eurooean clubs. I love to cheer on the underdog so I will be rooting for them.

if this happens it's not just great history for atalanta, but this can be a prove that all the big or small clubs with lots of experience or not will become the king of european league. And this will add to the list of Italian teams that have succeeded in bringing the champions league trophy to this country. although maybe this is like a dream, but I am not saying this is impossible if atalanta still become big clubs killer.

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July 25, 2020, 10:33:44 AM
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Atalanta is the most beautiful fairy tale of the last 40 years of Italian football, it reminds me very much of Leicester and Leipzig, but unlike them they don't have the opportunity to win the championship, but in my opinion it will make a great game against PSG and give us a dream, what do you think?


sure, I agree everything you say about this small team with great potential!
I think the chances of winning the cup are very low (for lack of experience) but it will certainly give headaches to the bigger teams ahahaha
I think they will fear it (i hope)

They don't have much experiences, that is true, and therefore the pressure might be too big for them. They will not win the cup, I'm sure of that but they are a team with huge potential and if they continue to build they play they will be real threath to bigger teams. Fingers crossed for them!

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July 25, 2020, 10:40:20 AM
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I’d love to see Atalanta win the CL, it’d be a great story built on passion, desire & hunger, no big egos & stupid money like big Eurooean clubs. I love to cheer on the underdog so I will be rooting for them.

if this happens it's not just great history for atalanta, but this can be a prove that all the big or small clubs with lots of experience or not will become the king of european league. And this will add to the list of Italian teams that have succeeded in bringing the champions league trophy to this country. although maybe this is like a dream, but I am not saying this is impossible if atalanta still become big clubs killer.

i would like to see Atalanta playing more than one match at the final tournament, but do not think that it is possible for them to win the championship, their form is going down at the moment, there is still a room to improve, but it will be hard to see them at their best in mid August, it is just life, i hopped for long-term good form for them, but that is not the case at the moment

of course, they will fight, and moment of inspiration could make a miracle for them, but they would need three miracles to lift the trophy, seems to much, IMO
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July 25, 2020, 11:52:25 AM
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exactly, Atalanta is very reminiscent of last year's Ajax, but Atalanta doesn't have the same glorious history as Ajax, which makes it more fascinating.

Atalanta have great history of success, i mean spring team.
it cultivates talents which it then resells to maintain the system, perhaps the most famous was Nichi Ventola.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicola_Ventola
remember that he played in the national team!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atalanta_B.C.

if you see, much italian players!

I’d love to see Atalanta win the CL, it’d be a great story built on passion, desire & hunger, no big egos & stupid money like big Eurooean clubs. I love to cheer on the underdog so I will be rooting for them.

I think all of Italy will cheer for them and in their final victory, Atalanta has nothing to lose, unlike psg, Juventus, Chelsea, Bayern, Barcelona etc. Etc., they have huge sums to lose! for this reason Atalanta can afford to play with far fewer thoughts than the big clubs of Europe

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exactly, Atalanta is very reminiscent of last year's Ajax, but Atalanta doesn't have the same glorious history as Ajax, which makes it more fascinating.

Atalanta have great history of success, i mean spring team.
it cultivates talents which it then resells to maintain the system, perhaps the most famous was Nichi Ventola.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicola_Ventola
remember that he played in the national team!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atalanta_B.C.

if you see, much italian players!

No, Nicola Ventola is not the most famous but another even more successful ... a certain Filippo Inzaghi, but perhaps he too is not even more recent, who grew up in Atalanta and are now players of the national team or who were in the national team, I'll list them to you

Nicola Ventola
Ivan Pellizzoli
Daniele Baselli
Simone Zaza
Giacomo Bonaventura
Giampaolo Pazzini
Domenico Morfeo
Riccardo Montolivo
Filippo Inzaghi
Cristian Vieri
Roberto Donadoni
Antonio Cabrini
Gaetano Scirea

these are the most famous and well-known ones who started their career in Atalanta 😁

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July 25, 2020, 12:46:39 PM
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PSG striker K. Mbappe just got a very nasty tackle from Saint- Etienne in Coupe de France finale. . I think his season is over. If it happens PSG will be in very bad situation in UCL. They also did a bad tackle on Neymar also. Though he scored on goal already and PSG is leading the game by 1-0. Coach should take off Neymar in the 2nd half. It will be better for them. Also, wish a very fast recovery for Mbappe.
The injury of KM7 will put PSG under risks to lose in the clash with Atalanta. Atalanta has their very good attack ability and they can give us a big surprise. PSG has never shown their best strength in Champions League. And I don't bet on Neymar that he will bring PSG to the final win against Atalanta. He is weak and similar to Paul Pogba in Manchester United. They put their personal interests higher than the overal interests of the clubs they are playing for.
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July 25, 2020, 01:11:03 PM
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But Real to advance at 3/1 look ok to me. City is City and Ramos is Ramos.
Lol, Ramos isn't playing. It's a good odd because Real Madrid going through is not impossible, but with the advantage city have (2 away goals) and the absence of Ramos in this game (serving his match ban for a red card in the first leg) i think city might just have the edge over Madrid and quality for the quarterfinal. Madrid are prolly still in celebration mood after winning the laliga Grin City may be the more motivated of the two teams.
Actually Manchester city sides deserved qualifications. Although it might seem to be a great battle as there was an intrinsic and improve come back on Real Madrid after the pandemic outbreak playing significant matches without a loss. Miracle might happen in Etihad stadium in the coming champions league week. Just watching out. 
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The injury of KM7 will put PSG under risks to lose in the clash with Atalanta. Atalanta has their very good attack ability and they can give us a big surprise. PSG has never shown their best strength in Champions League.

PSG is actually not even good as a team. We all know the personal brilliance of players like Mbappe, Neymar, Icardi, Di Maria and that's usually enough for PSG to win the Ligue 1 title every year but PSG as a team will not even make to Top 5 in Premier League or Top 3 in La Liga. Their midfield sucks and every attack has to come from wings. Forwards like Neymar and Di Maria have to play as wide-midfielders to compensate for weak midfield. Thiago Silva is aging thus only Marquinhos is quality player in back-line for them. On the other side, Atalanta is playing on whole different level as a team. Trio of Ilicic, Gomez and Zapata is most deadly attack in the Europe right now (maybe Bayern is better a bit). Let's see how PSG with injured Mbappe performs against Lyon in Coupe De France. That match going to be very important in deciding odds for Atalanta vs PSG clash. I am taking anything above 3 for Atalanta.

But Real to advance at 3/1 look ok to me. City is City and Ramos is Ramos.
Lol, Ramos isn't playing. It's a good odd because Real Madrid going through is not impossible, but with the advantage city have (2 away goals) and the absence of Ramos in this game (serving his match ban for a red card in the first leg) i think city might just have the edge over Madrid and quality for the quarterfinal. Madrid are prolly still in celebration mood after winning the laliga Grin City may be the more motivated of the two teams.

Also, Man City have a habit of giving nasty guard of honour. They gave one with 4-0 to Premier League winners, let see what they got for La Liga champions. Grin



It may be little sooner but here are my picks for remaining Champions League fun:

Juventus vs Lyon (draw. maybe 1-1 or 2-2)
Man City vs Real Madrid (easy win for Man City)
Bayern vs Chelsea (draw or win for Bayern)
Barcelona vs Napoli (win for Barcelona)

Quarter Finalists (teams I expect to win in bold):
Atalanta vs PSG
Leipzig vs Atletico
Barcelona vs Bayern
Manchester City vs Lyon

Leipzig before lockdown was exceptional but lost rhythm post-lockdown just like Lazio. Won't be a tough job for Atletico with the addition of in-form Carrasco with them.

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July 25, 2020, 02:48:11 PM
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But Real to advance at 3/1 look ok to me. City is City and Ramos is Ramos.
Lol, Ramos isn't playing. It's a good odd because Real Madrid going through is not impossible, but with the advantage city have (2 away goals) and the absence of Ramos in this game (serving his match ban for a red card in the first leg) i think city might just have the edge over Madrid and quality for the quarterfinal. Madrid are prolly still in celebration mood after winning the laliga Grin City may be the more motivated of the two teams.
Actually Manchester city sides deserved qualifications. Although it might seem to be a great battle as there was an intrinsic and improve come back on Real Madrid after the pandemic outbreak playing significant matches without a loss. Miracle might happen in Etihad stadium in the coming champions league week. Just watching out. 

Eff me I forgot about that Ramos card. So that's why the bookies don't have them on good odds haha. I still want to get back at Real for 18/19 (just a friendly bout of getting one back) but I'd rather they progress than Citeh, just because!

City deserves where they get for sure, and you'd think they'd have gotten farther but I wonder if their chinks are showing now after losing to Arsenal. But @webtricks is right, they'll probably whip the boys from Madrid if you let them have it. Still, whoever got 30/1 on Real to win must be really happy!

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July 26, 2020, 09:15:55 AM
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PSG is actually not even good as a team. We all know the personal brilliance of players like Mbappe, Neymar, Icardi, Di Maria and that's usually enough for PSG to win the Ligue 1 title every year but PSG as a team will not even make to Top 5 in Premier League or Top 3 in La Liga. Their midfield sucks and every attack has to come from wings. Forwards like Neymar and Di Maria have to play as wide-midfielders to compensate for weak midfield. Thiago Silva is aging thus only Marquinhos is quality player in back-line for them. On the other side, Atalanta is playing on whole different level as a team. Trio of Ilicic, Gomez and Zapata is most deadly attack in the Europe right now (maybe Bayern is better a bit). Let's see how PSG with injured Mbappe performs against Lyon in Coupe De France. That match going to be very important in deciding odds for Atalanta vs PSG clash. I am taking anything above 3 for Atalanta.
The Atalanta's forwards and strikers are playing amazingly this season. Together they have score lots of goals in Serie A and Champions League. With the injury that looks serious for KM7 and the ageing of Thiago Silva, I see big challenge for them to prevent Atalanta scoring. With fear always exists in mind, PSG's players will go panic if Atalanta score first.
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Juventus vs Lyon (draw. maybe 1-1 or 2-2)
Man City vs Real Madrid (easy win for Man City)
Bayern vs Chelsea (draw or win for Bayern)
Barcelona vs Napoli (win for Barcelona)
I don't think Man City will get easy win. They will be challenged by Real Madrid and might lose.
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Quarter Finalists (teams I expect to win in bold):
Atalanta vs PSG
Leipzig vs Atletico
Barcelona vs Bayern
Manchester City vs Lyon
I would prefer to see Atalanta, Atletico, Bayern and Real Madrid go to the semi-final round. With Lewy in squad, Bayern will beat Barcelona.
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July 26, 2020, 11:03:17 AM
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Will the match between Manchester City and Real Madrid be played according to the original plan?
In today's article, Marca writes that the fate of this match is in the hands of British Prime Minister Johnson.

From the article:
''Anyone arriving to the UK from Spain is now being told to self-isolate for 14 days, so this could affect Real Madrid if they travel for the game.There may be an exception made for professional sportspeople, but this is in the hands of UK prime minister Boris Johnson and his government.''

Source: https://www.marca.com/en/football/real-madrid/2020/07/26/5f1d554846163fb74c8b45c6.html

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July 26, 2020, 01:46:58 PM
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Will the match between Manchester City and Real Madrid be played according to the original plan?
In today's article, Marca writes that the fate of this match is in the hands of British Prime Minister Johnson.

I actually know of someone from Spain who's just arrived in the UK. They were recommended to self-isolate but no actual measure to enforce this. I'm pretty sure the same will be for professional sports, or perhaps indeed they will be "semi-self isolated" who knows? FA will get this sorted though, so no problem.

Meanwhile, all eyes on England now for the coming games!

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July 26, 2020, 03:03:53 PM
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It seems to me Atalanta now is a downhill, they have nothing more to ask in the Seria A (the only difference between second and 4th place are 10ish million € in prizes.
They can also maybe saving strength to do an all-in in the Champions League.

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July 26, 2020, 03:38:01 PM
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Will the match between Manchester City and Real Madrid be played according to the original plan?
In today's article, Marca writes that the fate of this match is in the hands of British Prime Minister Johnson.

From the article:
''Anyone arriving to the UK from Spain is now being told to self-isolate for 14 days, so this could affect Real Madrid if they travel for the game.There may be an exception made for professional sportspeople, but this is in the hands of UK prime minister Boris Johnson and his government.''

Source: https://www.marca.com/en/football/real-madrid/2020/07/26/5f1d554846163fb74c8b45c6.html
No doubts that exception for professional athletes will be made. I already read that F1 racers won't have to stay in 14 days quarantine, their race will be held next weekend. It was confirmed by BBC journalist that it applies to "other elite sports"
https://mobile.twitter.com/andrewbensonf1/status/1287095290525372416

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