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July 30, 2020, 12:54:20 PM
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According to the Spanish media, the match between Barca and Napoli could not take place in Camp Nou after all. UEFA is said to already be in contact with the health authorities in Catalonia, as the Covid 19 cases are rising again.
https://en.as.com/en/2020/07/30/football/1596106565_497153.html

Why haven't they moved this match to Portugal like the rest of the UCL matches from the quarter finals already?! Sure, Barca would have to waive off their home advantage, but without fans in the stadium that shouldn't be that big of a disadvantage. If the Corona situation in Spain won't allow a match in Barcelona, that would be the easiest solution.

They are trying to make it as fair as possible. Since first leg was played in Napoli this one should be played in Barcelona. Otherwise, Barca will give them hell and rightfully complain that Napoli had an unfair advantage. Similar situation with City-Real match as well.

Of course if covid situation is that bad in Barcelona, health should come first and they need to make some tough decisions.

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July 30, 2020, 12:55:51 PM
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According to the Spanish media, the match between Barca and Napoli could not take place in Camp Nou after all. UEFA is said to already be in contact with the health authorities in Catalonia, as the Covid 19 cases are rising again.
https://en.as.com/en/2020/07/30/football/1596106565_497153.html

Why haven't they moved this match to Portugal like the rest of the UCL matches from the quarter finals already?! Sure, Barca would have to waive off their home advantage, but without fans in the stadium that shouldn't be that big of a disadvantage. If the Corona situation in Spain won't allow a match in Barcelona, that would be the easiest solution.

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July 30, 2020, 04:26:09 PM
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No, Nicola Ventola is not the most famous but another even more successful ... a certain Filippo Inzaghi, but perhaps he too is not even more recent, who grew up in Atalanta and are now players of the national team or who were in the national team, I'll list them to you

Nicola Ventola
Ivan Pellizzoli
Daniele Baselli
Simone Zaza
Giacomo Bonaventura
Giampaolo Pazzini
Domenico Morfeo
Riccardo Montolivo
Filippo Inzaghi
Cristian Vieri
Roberto Donadoni
Antonio Cabrini
Gaetano Scirea

these are the most famous and well-known ones who started their career in Atalanta 😁


yes, you said true reality ... i dont remember Donadoni/Inzaghi/Cabrini/Vieri
but this is Atalanta, is a spring talent farm (and sell it for money - because football club is expensive!)

i hate international full-spent team like inter, they spent only money and fan pay more for nothing

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July 30, 2020, 04:49:00 PM
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According to the Spanish media, the match between Barca and Napoli could not take place in Camp Nou after all. UEFA is said to already be in contact with the health authorities in Catalonia, as the Covid 19 cases are rising again.
https://en.as.com/en/2020/07/30/football/1596106565_497153.html

Why haven't they moved this match to Portugal like the rest of the UCL matches from the quarter finals already?! Sure, Barca would have to waive off their home advantage, but without fans in the stadium that shouldn't be that big of a disadvantage. If the Corona situation in Spain won't allow a match in Barcelona, that would be the easiest solution.

They are trying to make it as fair as possible. Since first leg was played in Napoli this one should be played in Barcelona. Otherwise, Barca will give them hell and rightfully complain that Napoli had an unfair advantage. Similar situation with City-Real match as well.

Of course if covid situation is that bad in Barcelona, health should come first and they need to make some tough decisions.
True ..

I guess it's been announced in the quarter-finals drawing few weeks ago about this one.
And yeah there's no difference to play at home or away thesedays without fans cheering and screaming at you , wouldn't be a problem to play at a neutral stadium but yeah every decision has been made and designed as fair as possible, so Barcelona will accept that fact..

Except for the fans of course 😄 .
I just had a feeling that Barcelona wouldn't make it through to the next round, idk , just a hard feeling here 😃

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July 30, 2020, 05:10:15 PM
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Real Madrid continues to prepare for the meeting against City.It means that there are no other patients except Mariano. But there is still time until August 7th. I hope the disease will not be transmitted to other players.
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July 30, 2020, 05:15:47 PM
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I was just reading an article saying that Barca will have about 15 first players ready for Napoli game and then went googling a bit. They are missing Vidal and Busquets to red/yellow cards. Arthur refuses to play since they are kicking him out of the club. Braithwaithe is not registered and Dembele, Umtiti & Arajuho are injured. They still have respective first 11 but they are awfully thin before very important games. Furthermore, those games will be played every few days and Barca will probably have big problems with fitness. Add to that all that discontent in dressing room and I am not seeing them getting far.

@Trofo I don’t think that Barcelona can win because the player’s are unhappy under Setien (coach), and further the board has done absolutely nothing to solve their frosty relations with barca player’s, and this has even led many people to believe that Messi will quit Barcelona in 2021. Furthermore you’re right that if few injuries do takes place then Barcelona will have to field player’s who have very little experience, and that too will do more harm to their chances of winning the champions league.

Sources:

https://www.espn.in/football/barcelona/story/4124224/barcelona-boss-setiens-relationship-with-players-strained-sources

https://www.sport.es/en/news/barca/theres-tension-between-the-barcelona-players-and-the-catalan-clubs-board-7658127

https://www.thescore.com/chlg/news/1982130
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July 31, 2020, 06:16:02 AM
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I was just reading an article saying that Barca will have about 15 first players ready for Napoli game and then went googling a bit. They are missing Vidal and Busquets to red/yellow cards. Arthur refuses to play since they are kicking him out of the club. Braithwaithe is not registered and Dembele, Umtiti & Arajuho are injured. They still have respective first 11 but they are awfully thin before very important games. Furthermore, those games will be played every few days and Barca will probably have big problems with fitness. Add to that all that discontent in dressing room and I am not seeing them getting far.

@Trofo I don’t think that Barcelona can win because the player’s are unhappy under Setien (coach), and further the board has done absolutely nothing to solve their frosty relations with barca player’s, and this has even led many people to believe that Messi will quit Barcelona in 2021. Furthermore you’re right that if few injuries do takes place then Barcelona will have to field player’s who have very little experience, and that too will do more harm to their chances of winning the champions league.

Sources:

https://www.espn.in/football/barcelona/story/4124224/barcelona-boss-setiens-relationship-with-players-strained-sources

https://www.sport.es/en/news/barca/theres-tension-between-the-barcelona-players-and-the-catalan-clubs-board-7658127

https://www.thescore.com/chlg/news/1982130

if the coach are not able to coordinate with the player then Barcelona's performance will be dropped again on the next season. You know, coach is a center  of a team.  the whole team is centered on him. Only one skilled coach can give a good performance with his unstable team. if we look at the Real Madrid team we will see that,  Real Madrid hadn't play well at the  beginning of the season, but at the end of the season they won the cup. And all credit goes to Zidane.  if Barcelona are not able to solve their internal problem now, their future will be more dire.

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if the coach are not able to coordinate with the player then Barcelona's performance will be dropped again on the next season. You know, coach is a center  of a team.  the whole team is centered on him. Only one skilled coach can give a good performance with his unstable team. if we look at the Real Madrid team we will see that,  Real Madrid hadn't play well at the  beginning of the season, but at the end of the season they won the cup. And all credit goes to Zidane.  if Barcelona are not able to solve their internal problem now, their future will be more dire.

it is a set of factors that makes the team very strong
surely the coach helps a lot, really
but the climate inside the locker room is also important
how important it is that old and experienced players will guide you like you were their son and not put you in the wheel

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July 31, 2020, 08:46:17 AM
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I was just reading an article saying that Barca will have about 15 first players ready for Napoli game and then went googling a bit. They are missing Vidal and Busquets to red/yellow cards. Arthur refuses to play since they are kicking him out of the club. Braithwaithe is not registered and Dembele, Umtiti & Arajuho are injured. They still have respective first 11 but they are awfully thin before very important games. Furthermore, those games will be played every few days and Barca will probably have big problems with fitness. Add to that all that discontent in dressing room and I am not seeing them getting far.

@Trofo I don’t think that Barcelona can win because the player’s are unhappy under Setien (coach), and further the board has done absolutely nothing to solve their frosty relations with barca player’s, and this has even led many people to believe that Messi will quit Barcelona in 2021. Furthermore you’re right that if few injuries do takes place then Barcelona will have to field player’s who have very little experience, and that too will do more harm to their chances of winning the champions league.

Sources:

https://www.espn.in/football/barcelona/story/4124224/barcelona-boss-setiens-relationship-with-players-strained-sources

https://www.sport.es/en/news/barca/theres-tension-between-the-barcelona-players-and-the-catalan-clubs-board-7658127

https://www.thescore.com/chlg/news/1982130

Barcelona will qualify for the 1/4 finals, it’s what they do. Napoli are a good defensive team but I don’t think they’ll be able to stop Barca scoring a couple of goals.

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Real Madrid continues to prepare for the meeting against City.It means that there are no other patients except Mariano. But there is still time until August 7th. I hope the disease will not be transmitted to other players.
Hopefully it doesn't spread round to other players, because that is gonna be a huge blow for the fixture which will result to postponement. City vs Madrid is one of the match to watch out for as Madrid will want to give out their very best in qualifying
This is a serious issue that must be sorted out by UEFA before things goes out of hand imho if possible there is should be a shift in the fixture to give room for more testing, asymptomatic  nature of covid-19 had made the management and treatment of the virus complicated, we shouldn't be more interested in the much exciting game between Man City and Madrid but the health implication should be our most priority for now to avoid spread and transmission of the virus.

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Barcelona will qualify for the 1/4 finals, it’s what they do. Napoli are a good defensive team but I don’t think they’ll be able to stop Barca scoring a couple of goals.

most likely Barcelona will be the favorite in this challenge, but Napoli will not be intimidated, to remember that both teams will play away and will no longer be at Camp Nou

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Barcelona will qualify for the 1/4 finals, it’s what they do. Napoli are a good defensive team but I don’t think they’ll be able to stop Barca scoring a couple of goals.

most likely Barcelona will be the favorite in this challenge, but Napoli will not be intimidated, to remember that both teams will play away and will no longer be at Camp Nou
Napoli conceded only 5 goals in 7 matches in the Champions League, but conceded 49 goals in 37 matches in Serie A. Barcelona will definitely score, but whether Napoli will be able to answer is unknown. I think Barcelona will go to the quarter-finals.
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Barcelona will qualify for the 1/4 finals, it’s what they do. Napoli are a good defensive team but I don’t think they’ll be able to stop Barca scoring a couple of goals.

most likely Barcelona will be the favorite in this challenge, but Napoli will not be intimidated, to remember that both teams will play away and will no longer be at Camp Nou
Napoli conceded only 5 goals in 7 matches in the Champions League, but conceded 49 goals in 37 matches in Serie A. Barcelona will definitely score, but whether Napoli will be able to answer is unknown. I think Barcelona will go to the quarter-finals.

as an Italian I hope that Napoli will take the turn, it will be a great challenge

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most likely Barcelona will be the favorite in this challenge, but Napoli will not be intimidated, to remember that both teams will play away and will no longer be at Camp Nou

But you guys do realize Barcelona are not the favorites in this campaign at least according to the bookies right? They should be able to progress past Napoli or any of the other teams who have never won UCL but the minute they meet a past winner, I doubt they will be the favorites. Even Messi does not think so!

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July 31, 2020, 12:26:32 PM
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most likely Barcelona will be the favorite in this challenge, but Napoli will not be intimidated, to remember that both teams will play away and will no longer be at Camp Nou

But you guys do realize Barcelona are not the favorites in this campaign at least according to the bookies right? They should be able to progress past Napoli or any of the other teams who have never won UCL but the minute they meet a past winner, I doubt they will be the favorites. Even Messi does not think so!

Barcelona can still be made a favorite team and I think playing with Napoli can also be more interesting in the two opportunities in this CL but do you think this city is worth favoring?
Messi will insist to keep going for his team even if the league fails then CL can be an ambition for them.

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July 31, 2020, 02:53:44 PM
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most likely Barcelona will be the favorite in this challenge, but Napoli will not be intimidated, to remember that both teams will play away and will no longer be at Camp Nou

But you guys do realize Barcelona are not the favorites in this campaign at least according to the bookies right? They should be able to progress past Napoli or any of the other teams who have never won UCL but the minute they meet a past winner, I doubt they will be the favorites. Even Messi does not think so!

Barcelona can still be made a favorite team and I think playing with Napoli can also be more interesting in the two opportunities in this CL but do you think this city is worth favoring?
Messi will insist to keep going for his team even if the league fails then CL can be an ambition for them.
At least for Barcelona game vs Napoli, I think they can do it. Napoli aren't that excellent in their latest games in Serie A, their result was 1-1 in Italy so personally I think Barcelona gonna pass it unless they will play with really shitty performance which I doubt since they will try to win something this season..

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It's funny that nobody is actually even considering Lyon - I spoke with a few friends today who asked me 'is Lyon even in CL anymore?'

It will be a good one to watch, Lyon actually has a great result going into this game. If they manage to score a goal, Juventus has to score 3 to go through.

They have the same problem as PSG, but I really think their chances are higher than people think.

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July 31, 2020, 03:23:31 PM
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most likely Barcelona will be the favorite in this challenge, but Napoli will not be intimidated, to remember that both teams will play away and will no longer be at Camp Nou

But you guys do realize Barcelona are not the favorites in this campaign at least according to the bookies right? They should be able to progress past Napoli or any of the other teams who have never won UCL but the minute they meet a past winner, I doubt they will be the favorites. Even Messi does not think so!

Barcelona can still be made a favorite team and I think playing with Napoli can also be more interesting in the two opportunities in this CL but do you think this city is worth favoring?
Messi will insist to keep going for his team even if the league fails then CL can be an ambition for them.
At least for Barcelona game vs Napoli, I think they can do it. Napoli aren't that excellent in their latest games in Serie A, their result was 1-1 in Italy so personally I think Barcelona gonna pass it unless they will play with really shitty performance which I doubt since they will try to win something this season..

I agree that Barcelona can definitely beat Napoli, judging from the quality of the players I think Barcelona is still better.
Indeed, Barcelona's game has been very bad this season, and therefore the current Champions League Barcelona is
no longer a candidate for champions. But when compared to Napoli Barcelona should be far superior.

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July 31, 2020, 03:28:12 PM
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what are your betting predictions? I believe that Barcelona - Napoli over 2.5

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July 31, 2020, 03:31:38 PM
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what are your betting predictions? I believe that Barcelona - Napoli over 2.5

Napoli doesnt score a lot this season.
Over 2,5 is going to come only if Barcelona is going to play aggressively and score at least one goal early in the game. I would go for Napoli's win as both teams are pretty unstable during this season and Napoli has value bet for getting the win.
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