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Author Topic: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!  (Read 129357 times)
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May 12, 2022, 04:55:01 PM
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The matches that are left for Liverpool in the English Premier League are not so difficult in my opinion and that's why I am not going to be surprised if I see a few rotations in the squad. I believe Liverpool is going to play their best team against Real Madrid in the Champions League final. So Jürgen Klopp is surely going to do what's necessary for the team to have the best players available for the Champions League final.
I think that currently Klopp is making the Champions League trophy his main target this season after seeing their position in the league which seems difficult to get a trophy, despite doing a little rotation in the main squad against Aston Villa, I think it's not because of the rest of their weak opponents in the league, but it seems that the EPL trophy this season is unlikely to belong to Liverpool, so Klopp chose to save his players to face the FA and Champions League finals.

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May 12, 2022, 05:04:54 PM
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If you look at the history of the match, 4 times madrid never lost. But in 2021 they are a draw. May 28, is still quite a long time, they still have enough preparation. It's just that madrid today is more relaxed because the La Liga title they have got.  As for Liverpol, they still have a chance of winning, so they are certainly fighting hard for the EPL and UCL. I in the final will choose Madrid for the champions, they will win 2-1. It's just my prediction hopefully correct, or at least Madrid won even if my score guess was wrong. 
Source: https://www.sofascore.com/liverpool-real-madrid/UsEgb

With Real Madrid winning the La Liga title, they will now be able to fully concentrate on the Champions League final. And they have enough time to prepare for the final match. Liverpool, on the other hand, is still battling for the Premier League title. And their performance in the Premier League is also very good. They are consistently performing well. So both the teams will continue their best efforts in the title fight. I still think both teams have a 50-50 chance of winning the title.

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May 12, 2022, 05:09:16 PM
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Even though Liverpool are currently on fire, especially now they are eyeing the Quadruple, but on the other hand, we also can't make it look like it will be easy, especially since the opponent they will face is Real Madrid.
I personally prefer Madrid for whatever reason they are still strong enough and could even make Liverpool lose

It's hard to guess, for the match will be interesting. Hopefully both teams will have the best players in the game and no injuries during their league games. Actually from the style of play I like Liverpool, they have the collectiveity of the game in the team. Although madrid too, but Madrid's game as a team is no better than liverpool. But today's football the most important thing is the final result, so the process doesn't really matter. I also wish Madrid the champions this season with Anceloti.

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May 12, 2022, 05:13:40 PM
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If you look at the history of the match, 4 times madrid never lost. But in 2021 they are a draw. May 28, is still quite a long time, they still have enough preparation. It's just that madrid today is more relaxed because the La Liga title they have got.  As for Liverpol, they still have a chance of winning, so they are certainly fighting hard for the EPL and UCL. I in the final will choose Madrid for the champions, they will win 2-1. It's just my prediction hopefully correct, or at least Madrid won even if my score guess was wrong. 
Source: https://www.sofascore.com/liverpool-real-madrid/UsEgb

With Real Madrid winning the La Liga title, they will now be able to fully concentrate on the Champions League final. And they have enough time to prepare for the final match. Liverpool, on the other hand, is still battling for the Premier League title. And their performance in the Premier League is also very good. They are consistently performing well. So both the teams will continue their best efforts in the title fight. I still think both teams have a 50-50 chance of winning the title.
Liverpool also has a focus on the FA cup final against Chelsea. this becomes quite draining for Liverpool. but also an opportunity for Liverpool's best season.
but Madrid is also the team with the most Champions League trophies. Madrid has experience in the finals. especially now Madrid can be very focused on this final match.
it is still very difficult to make predictions and bets for both. I'll try to bet when the match is about to take place.

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May 12, 2022, 05:37:41 PM
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With Real Madrid winning the La Liga title, they will now be able to fully concentrate on the Champions League final. And they have enough time to prepare for the final match. Liverpool, on the other hand, is still battling for the Premier League title. And their performance in the Premier League is also very good. They are consistently performing well. So both the teams will continue their best efforts in the title fight. I still think both teams have a 50-50 chance of winning the title.
Liverpool also has a focus on the FA cup final against Chelsea. this becomes quite draining for Liverpool. but also an opportunity for Liverpool's best season.
but Madrid is also the team with the most Champions League trophies. Madrid has experience in the finals. especially now Madrid can be very focused on this final match.
it is still very difficult to make predictions and bets for both. I'll try to bet when the match is about to take place.
Liverpool's game is still tight and it will continue to drain their concentration and with some players will it stabilize or is there an injury from one of them, but I hope all the players recover.
Tomorrow is the FA Final, I know not all the main players will be played but for sure Liverpool will chase this championship.
The 18th match with Southampton
The 22nd with Wolves as the final game of the season.
The 29th of the much-awaited UCL final this month.

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May 12, 2022, 06:24:58 PM
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it will be a little good for Benzema if he can win the Champions League this season because his achievements will increase even more now because he can marry the La Liga trophy and the top scorer there and the Champions Trophy with the top scorer too.
I actually expected a lot with Madrid in this match but Liverpool are not an opponent to be taken lightly especially with their current squad which is very good in attack, midfield and defense.

Liverpool problem is if the game is tied or if they are leading by one or two goals with 10 minutes left. Because Real Madrid this season is rocking these last minutes of the Champions League games.  Roll Eyes

Honestly I think that Real Madrid will win, although I also think that Liverpool have a better team.
True, not even once but many times. Against PSG, Chelsea and City they always win in crucial minutes and even in the 80-90+ minutes they always score.
maybe this is Ancelotti's strategy to press with all his might in the last minute.
it's definitely worth watching anyway it's an ideal final

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May 12, 2022, 06:37:41 PM
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With Real Madrid winning the La Liga title, they will now be able to fully concentrate on the Champions League final. And they have enough time to prepare for the final match. Liverpool, on the other hand, is still battling for the Premier League title.
You have a point there, if you ask me which set of players would come into the game fresher, i would say it would be the Madrid players, they have won their league and Carlo Ancelotti can afford to rotate his squad massively for their remaining league games, he would definitely keep his main players out of the action, and prolly give some of them a 10 or 20 minute game time to stretch their legs.

But Liverpool on the other hand have a final against Chelsea on Saturday, and on top of that they have two very important games in the premier league against Southampton and Wolves, and they can't afford to rest any of their key players for this games, because they want to win all of it, so in terms of coming into the game in a slightly better condition, i think Madrid have the advantage there. But Liverpool is an absolute top club, their stats this season in unbelievable and i am pretty sure they would handle the situation very well. Their major concern now would be on the fitness of Fabinho who is down with a harmstring injury, i hope he is fit come the 28th of this month, cause he is very pivotal to how Liverpool play their game.

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May 12, 2022, 06:45:29 PM
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I've seen the odds at the bookmakers. According to the bookmakers, both teams are roughly evenly matched. Not so strange in itself, Real Madrid has already eliminated several strong teams. Liverpool's road to the final was less impressive, but is still one of the best teams in the world. It is important for Madrid that Benzema is fit and able to participate. It could be a boring 0-0 but also a 3-3 like in the past between Milan and Liverpool.

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May 12, 2022, 09:29:22 PM
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I think many Manchester City fans are behind Pep Guardiola no matter if they win the UEFA Champion's League or not. Pep is the only manager that is criticised for not winning the champion's league. Sir Alex Ferguson won 2 in 30 years, many didn't talk about him getting sacked. Well, these points are understandable accurate but Fergie didn't spent over half a billion pounds to recruit players.

Guardiola coached Bayern Munich which had at least a "season ticket" to the Champions League finals but didn't achieve anything with them, now he is coaching a money bag with an unlimited budget and of course more is expected of him than just winning the Premier League.

It is clear that the quotes of the teams do not always correspond to the final result. I'm saying that these quotes are inadequate. These quotes are as if Liverpool were leading 1-0 in the first half, but the game hasn't even started yet  Grin
As for the mentality, I would not say that Real and Liverpool are very different - they are two cup fighters who are used to fighting in knockout games.
This finals a bit weird though, not that it is any weirder than most finals but here it is a bit different kind of weird. Like for example last year everyone believed that City would finally win, and Chelsea was clear underdogs but they managed to get it, which is understandable sometimes underdogs wins and that's not rare. Or sometimes the favorites win, and that is not unexpected, in fact that is the common thing to see.

However, this time around we have Liverpool as favorites, but Real is not really underdogs neither, they are neither close to each other neither, not like we are seeing 2 equal teams, what we are seeing is a team that is favorites, and another team who should have been underdogs 4 matchups ago.

To put it simply: Real Madrid and Liverpool are different strong teams. In the fight of super-strong opponents of an equal level, devastating scores are common (as the pros are able to use a negligible weakness and this allows a snowball to happen) so I would not be surprised if Real Madrid wins 3-0 or vice versa. But I definitely do not agree with the fact that Liverpool is quoted so highly.

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May 12, 2022, 09:36:05 PM
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it is better and it makes sense for Liverpool to focus on the Champions League final rather than the Premier League. Because the English league champion is in the hands of Manchester City, while the Champions League winner is Liverpool's own decision if they can win the final match against Real Madrid, this automatically becomes Jurgen Klopp's achievement and Liverpool will definitely make a new history in the Champions League.
Focus on UCL is a thing you do when you are in the group stages or quarter finals or even semi finals because there are league games going on at the same time, like you play one league game then one ucl midweek then another league game and then another UCL then another league game and this causes a lot of fatigue and players may need to get a rest during those times.

However, this one is basically after the season is over, so they do not need to think about UCL right now and beat everyone they play against, they need to. If they lose, then they will be feeling sorrow about if City loses as well. In any case, City will definitely win the league there is no doubt about that so LFC needs to win UCL no matter what.
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With Real Madrid winning the La Liga title, they will now be able to fully concentrate on the Champions League final. And they have enough time to prepare for the final match. Liverpool, on the other hand, is still battling for the Premier League title.
You have a point there, if you ask me which set of players would come into the game fresher, i would say it would be the Madrid players, they have won their league and Carlo Ancelotti can afford to rotate his squad massively for their remaining league games, he would definitely keep his main players out of the action, and prolly give some of them a 10 or 20 minute game time to stretch their legs.

But Liverpool on the other hand have a final against Chelsea on Saturday, and on top of that they have two very important games in the premier league against Southampton and Wolves, and they can't afford to rest any of their key players for this games, because they want to win all of it, so in terms of coming into the game in a slightly better condition, i think Madrid have the advantage there. But Liverpool is an absolute top club, their stats this season in unbelievable and i am pretty sure they would handle the situation very well. Their major concern now would be on the fitness of Fabinho who is down with a harmstring injury, i hope he is fit come the 28th of this month, cause he is very pivotal to how Liverpool play their game.

in La Liga, Madrid really enjoyed the performance they showed us. Just finished against Levante with a very cruel score. The moment of motivation to play Levante has ended in despair.

Real Madrid is ready to face Liverpool in the final. There is not the slightest doubt that so far Ancelotti will give his best. The Champions League is expected to be the pinnacle for Madrid to show their struggles so far.

Liverpool with a very important game, they have to force the core players to take to the field. The risk is very high for Salah and his friends so that means avoiding injury is their top priority.

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May 12, 2022, 10:15:49 PM
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If you look at the history of the match, 4 times madrid never lost. But in 2021 they are a draw. May 28, is still quite a long time, they still have enough preparation. It's just that madrid today is more relaxed because the La Liga title they have got.  As for Liverpol, they still have a chance of winning, so they are certainly fighting hard for the EPL and UCL. I in the final will choose Madrid for the champions, they will win 2-1. It's just my prediction hopefully correct, or at least Madrid won even if my score guess was wrong. 
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With Real Madrid winning the La Liga title, they will now be able to fully concentrate on the Champions League final. And they have enough time to prepare for the final match. Liverpool, on the other hand, is still battling for the Premier League title. And their performance in the Premier League is also very good. They are consistently performing well. So both the teams will continue their best efforts in the title fight. I still think both teams have a 50-50 chance of winning the title.
Madrid get benefit now with their success be winner in La Liga , all player choach could focus on how strategy must setted againts Liverpool which is still struggle in their league. As good team it should not be difficult thing for Liverpool divide their concern between Champiosn League final and premier league. they have good player which is could rotate to keep their condition .

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With Real Madrid winning the La Liga title, they will now be able to fully concentrate on the Champions League final. And they have enough time to prepare for the final match. Liverpool, on the other hand, is still battling for the Premier League title.
You have a point there, if you ask me which set of players would come into the game fresher, i would say it would be the Madrid players, they have won their league and Carlo Ancelotti can afford to rotate his squad massively for their remaining league games, he would definitely keep his main players out of the action, and prolly give some of them a 10 or 20 minute game time to stretch their legs.

But Liverpool on the other hand have a final against Chelsea on Saturday, and on top of that they have two very important games in the premier league against Southampton and Wolves, and they can't afford to rest any of their key players for this games, because they want to win all of it, so in terms of coming into the game in a slightly better condition, i think Madrid have the advantage there. But Liverpool is an absolute top club, their stats this season in unbelievable and i am pretty sure they would handle the situation very well. Their major concern now would be on the fitness of Fabinho who is down with a harmstring injury, i hope he is fit come the 28th of this month, cause he is very pivotal to how Liverpool play their game.

in La Liga, Madrid really enjoyed the performance they showed us. Just finished against Levante with a very cruel score. The moment of motivation to play Levante has ended in despair.

Real Madrid is ready to face Liverpool in the final. There is not the slightest doubt that so far Ancelotti will give his best. The Champions League is expected to be the pinnacle for Madrid to show their struggles so far.

Liverpool with a very important game, they have to force the core players to take to the field. The risk is very high for Salah and his friends so that means avoiding injury is their top priority.

Real Madrid did show an extraordinary performance when they beat Levante in La Liga, even though the Levante team was weak, but winning
the game with a score of 6-0 was something very extraordinary. And the victory was something that was very good for Real Madrid before
facing Liverpool in the Champions League final. With this big win, Real Madrid players must have very high confidence, and I think
the Real Madrid players are very much ready to face Liverpool in the Champions League final.

Although Liverpool also won in their last game, Liverpool won the victory was not easy. Moreover, Liverpool has a busier match schedule than
Real Madrid, Liverpool still have to play in the FA Cup final against Chelsea, and Liverpool must play their best squad against Chelsea.
The risk is that Liverpool players may experience injury or fatigue. So, in this case, Real Madrid has the advantage, but I hope that both teams
can field their best players in the Champions League final, so that the match goes a lot more interesting.

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May 12, 2022, 11:26:39 PM
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in La Liga, Madrid really enjoyed the performance they showed us. Just finished against Levante with a very cruel score. The moment of motivation to play Levante has ended in despair.
they played well without any presure at all , with last match they could do various strategy that may prepare to face match with Liverpool. with this this result ,Liverpool aware with Madrid goal scorer or they could be next victim.


Real Madrid is ready to face Liverpool in the final. There is not the slightest doubt that so far Ancelotti will give his best. The Champions League is expected to be the pinnacle for Madrid to show their struggles so far.
they are totally ready to face this big match. no doubt with super player in madrid team it could be their benefits and also with good statistic in last 5 game liverpool must focus again madrid,

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May 12, 2022, 11:48:19 PM
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If you look at the history of the match, 4 times madrid never lost. But in 2021 they are a draw. May 28, is still quite a long time, they still have enough preparation. It's just that madrid today is more relaxed because the La Liga title they have got.  As for Liverpol, they still have a chance of winning, so they are certainly fighting hard for the EPL and UCL. I in the final will choose Madrid for the champions, they will win 2-1. It's just my prediction hopefully correct, or at least Madrid won even if my score guess was wrong. 
Source: https://www.sofascore.com/liverpool-real-madrid/UsEgb

With Real Madrid winning the La Liga title, they will now be able to fully concentrate on the Champions League final. And they have enough time to prepare for the final match. Liverpool, on the other hand, is still battling for the Premier League title. And their performance in the Premier League is also very good. They are consistently performing well. So both the teams will continue their best efforts in the title fight. I still think both teams have a 50-50 chance of winning the title.
Madrid get benefit now with their success be winner in La Liga , all player choach could focus on how strategy must setted againts Liverpool which is still struggle in their league. As good team it should not be difficult thing for Liverpool divide their concern between Champiosn League final and premier league. they have good player which is could rotate to keep their condition .
Still .. if they are too relax handling this situation.

It could be a boomerang , instead of get rest very well .. it attack back as the player get stuck and the form get down .
While liverpool having competitive matches at the league cup and domestic league , they could grow even more great and make the revenge come true later in the final!

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May 12, 2022, 11:57:45 PM
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in La Liga, Madrid really enjoyed the performance they showed us. Just finished against Levante with a very cruel score. The moment of motivation to play Levante has ended in despair.
they played well without any presure at all , with last match they could do various strategy that may prepare to face match with Liverpool. with this this result ,Liverpool aware with Madrid goal scorer or they could be next victim.


Real Madrid is ready to face Liverpool in the final. There is not the slightest doubt that so far Ancelotti will give his best. The Champions League is expected to be the pinnacle for Madrid to show their struggles so far.
they are totally ready to face this big match. no doubt with super player in madrid team it could be their benefits and also with good statistic in last 5 game liverpool must focus again madrid,


That is what distinguishes the situation of Real Madrid and Liverpool, because Real Madrid has already won the La Liga trophy.
Besides that, Real Madrid only focuses on winning the Champions League trophy, so Real Madrid should benefit more than Liverpool.
So Real Madrid can maintain the fitness of their players before the Champions League final begins. While Liverpool can't just focus on
 the Champions League competition only, the minds of Liverpool players are still divided into 3 competitions. And that puts a lot of pressure
on Liverpool's players. What I fear is that the pressure will affect Liverpool's game against Real Madrid in the final. But I believe Liverpool are
a big and experienced team, so they should be ready for any situation.

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May 12, 2022, 11:59:13 PM
Last edit: May 13, 2022, 12:12:33 AM by AndySt
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That is what distinguishes the situation of Real Madrid and Liverpool, because Real Madrid has already won the La Liga trophy. Besides that, Real Madrid only focuses on winning the Champions League trophy, so Real Madrid should benefit more than Liverpool. So Real Madrid can maintain the fitness of their players before the Champions League final begins. While Liverpool can't just focus on  the Champions League competition only, the minds of Liverpool players are still divided into 3 competitions. And that puts a lot of pressure on Liverpool's players.
This situation is not so clear and the ongoing struggle in the championship can be useful for Liverpool in terms of attitude. A lot already depends on the coaching staff of the team and the medical staff, how to distribute the load on the players so that the players manage to recover not only physically, but also mentally and excessive tension does not begin to negatively affect the game and the results of the team. Also, the most important thing is that the Real Madrid players remain in good playing tone, because excessive relaxation can also play a cruel joke. Also, let's not forget that the game of modern Real Madrid is very dependent on players like Benzema and Modric and it is difficult to hope for a successful outcome of the final if these players are not in order.
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May 12, 2022, 11:59:20 PM
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Real Madrid did show an extraordinary performance when they beat Levante in La Liga, even though the Levante team was weak, but winning
the game with a score of 6-0 was something very extraordinary. And the victory was something that was very good for Real Madrid before
facing Liverpool in the Champions League final. With this big win, Real Madrid players must have very high confidence, and I think
the Real Madrid players are very much ready to face Liverpool in the Champions League final.
Winning with big scores in La Liga indicates that Real Madrid players have a high motivation to win in each remaining match. It is a good sign for Real Madrid squad, they seem ready to show their best in the UCL final. But the winning in La Liga match cannot determine the result of UCL final, it is a different competition, and with different pressure. We cannot compare Liverpool with Levante, the squad quality is too much different, they are at a different level. So, the winning against Levante is nothing to do with the upcoming UCL final. It only showed a bit related to the mentality and motivation of Real Madrid players lately.

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May 13, 2022, 01:26:03 AM
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Real Madrid did show an extraordinary performance when they beat Levante in La Liga, even though the Levante team was weak, but winning
the game with a score of 6-0 was something very extraordinary. And the victory was something that was very good for Real Madrid before
facing Liverpool in the Champions League final. With this big win, Real Madrid players must have very high confidence, and I think
the Real Madrid players are very much ready to face Liverpool in the Champions League final.
Winning with big scores in La Liga indicates that Real Madrid players have a high motivation to win in each remaining match. It is a good sign for Real Madrid squad, they seem ready to show their best in the UCL final. But the winning in La Liga match cannot determine the result of UCL final, it is a different competition, and with different pressure. We cannot compare Liverpool with Levante, the squad quality is too much different, they are at a different level. So, the winning against Levante is nothing to do with the upcoming UCL final. It only showed a bit related to the mentality and motivation of Real Madrid players lately.


True, Liverpool cannot be compared to Levante because their quality difference is too big. I agree with this victory. There is a good preparation for Real Madrid for the Champions League game. Of course they have to improve this because the final game is still quite long And don't be complacent with what they are showing at the moment. But I believe that Real Madrid is not a team that is easily satisfied with its game.

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May 13, 2022, 02:59:24 AM
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I agree, I also hope that these two teams come out with the full squad without any of their main players being unavailable. Indeed, the road to the final is still long and both teams are still busy with their domestic leagues, especially for Liverpool who still hope that their main rivals Manchester City slip in their remaining matches, although that is a bit impossible. I also hope that the final game will be as we expected.
Real Madrid have prepared a special strategy to face Liverpool in the Champions League final, they have rotated their players in the Spanish League, thus losing to Atletico Madrid, while Liverpool are struggling to catch up with Manchester City in the Premier League, lastly Liverpool could only draw, both clubs kept players' fitness, Liverpool's burden is bigger, because they are facing big clubs and won the most Champions, even Real Madrid can rest players, because they have already secured one champion in spanish league
This is what makes Real Madrid a bit of an advantage in the final against Liverpool where at this time Real Madrid have locked the domestic title and they can have more rest time than Liverpool who continue to play their core players where they are trying to coup the position Manchester city in the standings.where the key players have to appear in every game and this is different from Real Madrid where they only fielded second-tier players against Atletico Madrid in the BBVA league match yesterday, of course Liverpool must be a little wary about this considering they haven't once rotated his players in the English premier league where the feared thing happened at any time the players had to suffer injuries before the final match
Both Liverpool and Real Madrid have their respective burdens in facing the Champions League Final in the future, because after all these two clubs have the burden of winning the Champions League, Real Madrid is benefited because they are no longer playing aggressively in the Spanish league, because whatever the result does not affect the the points they will receive, Liverpool still have a heavy burden on the Premier League, they are struggling to equalize points with Manchester City, so Liverpool's focus is completely occupied, Liverpool can't rotate players for now, because they are chasing full points in the Premier League, so players must be able to maintain physical fitness so that no one gets injured, if they make small mistakes in the future, it will greatly affect them to compete in the Champions League

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