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Author Topic: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!  (Read 129359 times)
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May 13, 2022, 06:32:48 AM
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The Champions League final match is very interesting and certainly fierce because it will be presented at the top of the elite blue continent competition, the Champions League where representatives of the Spanish La Liga, Real Madrid will face representatives of the Premier League, Liverpool.
besides that, it was also a revenge event for Liverpool, who lost to Real Madrid in the 2018 champions league final and Don Carlo also had experience with Liverpool when he was still coaching AC MIlan.
The most interesting thing is Liverpool vs Real Madrid, so the fight for the Ballon d'or 2022 winner. Mane/Salah vs Benzema.
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May 13, 2022, 07:00:02 AM
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The Champions League final match is very interesting and certainly fierce because it will be presented at the top of the elite blue continent competition, the Champions League where representatives of the Spanish La Liga, Real Madrid will face representatives of the Premier League, Liverpool.
besides that, it was also a revenge event for Liverpool, who lost to Real Madrid in the 2018 champions league final and Don Carlo also had experience with Liverpool when he was still coaching AC MIlan.
The most interesting thing is Liverpool vs Real Madrid, so the fight for the Ballon d'or 2022 winner. Mane/Salah vs Benzema.

yes i agree
it will certainly be a great game, already in the semifinals I had a lot of fun
so I plan to have fun, usually in the finals I never bet because they are always very difficult to predict
I hope it's a good match

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May 13, 2022, 07:05:48 AM
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What is clear is that they should not underestimate Madrid in this regard.
Now Madrid has turned into a frightening specter who initially was a team that could be said to be underdog because they continued to face tough opponents but now they are like a boomerang and regardless of luck or their mentality is very good, Madrid is now a pretty scary figure.
Liverpool are currently still busy with their Quadruple target which may be lost and I think it would be better if they focused on the Champions League final instead of thinking about the EPL title which is quite difficult to achieve

I agree with you it is better and it makes sense for Liverpool to focus on the Champions League final rather than the Premier League. Because the English league champion is in the hands of Manchester City, while the Champions League winner is Liverpool's own decision if they can win the final match against Real Madrid, this automatically becomes Jurgen Klopp's achievement and Liverpool will definitely make a new history in the Champions League.
It's true that they are eyeing the EPL now only hoping for the worst game from City but this looks like it will be very difficult to happen considering they are now only focused there. different from the Champions League now because here they just have to play better than Madrid and try to score goals to win and that is in their own hands.
focus is something that is quite important because indeed when their focus is divided they can lose everything, be it the EPL or Champions League

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May 13, 2022, 09:43:13 AM
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It makes sense that Liverpool are more focused on the Champions League, because they are a bit behind Manchester City and need a miracle to turn things around at the moment. Plus Manchester City are also increasingly consistent with their appearance to be able to become champions. And it's true that Real Madrid are more relaxed in the domestic league, because they have locked the title.
That is the difference in current conditions for the two teams who are already in the Champions League final, so that everyone can make a little prediction of who will win in the Champions League final, because it is always related to mentality, experience, and focus. Likewise with the coach and the players in each team, because that also needs to be seen in order to compete very well in the Champions League final this season.

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May 13, 2022, 10:12:28 AM
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Real Madrid are the most difficult team to beat especially in finals, the statistics is in their favor. This season Real Madrid have had the most difficult run in the knockout stages to the final. So it's quite fair to think they deserve winning it.
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May 13, 2022, 10:22:35 AM
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Real Madrid are the most difficult team to beat especially in finals, the statistics is in their favor. This season Real Madrid have had the most difficult run in the knockout stages to the final. So it's quite fair to think they deserve winning it.

If you compare both teams and their way how they made it into the finals of the Champions League, then it is pretty obvious that Real Madrid had way harder opponents there. All matchups in the knockout stage where Real Madrid was involved were total bangers and Real was basically the underdog in everyone of those matchups but still they managed to advance in everyone of those matches. Liverpool on the other hand had way easier opponents (maybe except Inter in the first round) and therefore their matches were not so spectacular and exciting because they just did what everyone expected them to do but of course that does not mean that Liverpool is not as strong as Real Madrid.
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May 13, 2022, 12:00:23 PM
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That is what distinguishes the situation of Real Madrid and Liverpool, because Real Madrid has already won the La Liga trophy. Besides that, Real Madrid only focuses on winning the Champions League trophy, so Real Madrid should benefit more than Liverpool. So Real Madrid can maintain the fitness of their players before the Champions League final begins. While Liverpool can't just focus on  the Champions League competition only, the minds of Liverpool players are still divided into 3 competitions. And that puts a lot of pressure on Liverpool's players.
This situation is not so clear and the ongoing struggle in the championship can be useful for Liverpool in terms of attitude. A lot already depends on the coaching staff of the team and the medical staff, how to distribute the load on the players so that the players manage to recover not only physically, but also mentally and excessive tension does not begin to negatively affect the game and the results of the team. Also, the most important thing is that the Real Madrid players remain in good playing tone, because excessive relaxation can also play a cruel joke. Also, let's not forget that the game of modern Real Madrid is very dependent on players like Benzema and Modric and it is difficult to hope for a successful outcome of the final if these players are not in order.

Real Madrid is also dependent on the older generation to do most of the work right now. Those people surely need a lot of rest because they will not be able to play with their 100% in the final. I think Real Madrid knows very well what to do because they have been playing really well up till now and even though it might look like Liverpool has an upper hand over Real Madrid in the finals I think that is not the case.
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May 13, 2022, 12:13:33 PM
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I think Real Madrid knows very well what to do because they have been playing really well up till now and even though it might look like Liverpool has an upper hand over Real Madrid in the finals I think that is not the case.

I still have faith in Liverpool for this season. Although I know there we have a tough opponent, La Liga giants Real Madrid, this season Madrid are known to have a very fast counter-attack, they have a striker like Benzema who is quite good at finishing passes. Liverpool have a defense that Madrid cannot ignore.

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May 13, 2022, 12:13:53 PM
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Real Madrid is also dependent on the older generation to do most of the work right now. Those people surely need a lot of rest because they will not be able to play with their 100% in the final. I think Real Madrid knows very well what to do because they have been playing really well up till now and even though it might look like Liverpool has an upper hand over Real Madrid in the finals I think that is not the case.
because Madrid's old players have composure and experience on the pitch. Moreover, for this final, Madrid will certainly overcome the pace of the Liverpool players with their tactics.
Madrid also has a decent mix of young players. The combination of experience, composure, and speed of the young players to date has given Madrid strength in facing important matches.
I don't think which team is better. because both teams are the best at the moment. both deserve to be at the top of the fight. it will provide great entertainment for us.



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May 13, 2022, 12:34:39 PM
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Real Madrid are the most difficult team to beat especially in finals, the statistics is in their favor. This season Real Madrid have had the most difficult run in the knockout stages to the final. So it's quite fair to think they deserve winning it.

I see and I've heard most people betting against Madrid. Why am I not surprised? These same people bet against Real Madrid when they faced PSG, Chelsea and City. When will people see that stats and odds go up in smoke when they play. Real Madrid have always been one of the greatest teams ever assembled. There is a reason why they've won the UCL a record 13 times.

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Real Madrid are the most difficult team to beat especially in finals, the statistics is in their favor. This season Real Madrid have had the most difficult run in the knockout stages to the final. So it's quite fair to think they deserve winning it.

it's true the statistics say so, but don't forget Who they faced in the last finals. In the Champions League final this time they faced one of the big teams from the English league who already had a history in the Champions League with 7 Champions League trophies and also had a different winning mentality to Manchester City or PSG, even though they are big clubs, but in the international arena they don't have the mentality. different from Liverpool.
I believe Liverpool will be able to face Real Madrid and I bet Liverpool will win the Champions League this season.

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Real Madrid is also dependent on the older generation to do most of the work right now. Those people surely need a lot of rest because they will not be able to play with their 100% in the final. I think Real Madrid knows very well what to do because they have been playing really well up till now and even though it might look like Liverpool has an upper hand over Real Madrid in the finals I think that is not the case.
because Madrid's old players have composure and experience on the pitch. Moreover, for this final, Madrid will certainly overcome the pace of the Liverpool players with their tactics.
Madrid also has a decent mix of young players. The combination of experience, composure, and speed of the young players to date has given Madrid strength in facing important matches.
I don't think which team is better. because both teams are the best at the moment. both deserve to be at the top of the fight. it will provide great entertainment for us.
We know Real Madrid do have a long experience in the Champions League but this time they will play against each other for a stronger squad, maybe old and young players can be combined with good tactics that will make the players more aggressive in their game I can't tell the difference between the two but for sure the final with Liverpool will be a great fight.
Of all things there must be an influence including at Liverpool Klopp has an important role in it, with a sharp striker for Liverpool making some believe they can win and give their best.

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May 13, 2022, 01:03:48 PM
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Real Madrid are the most difficult team to beat especially in finals, the statistics is in their favor. This season Real Madrid have had the most difficult run in the knockout stages to the final. So it's quite fair to think they deserve winning it.

RM deserve win! is like giving them the chance that even if they don't play well they end up winning  but in any case I understand your point.
The matter in this case and taking out the feelings of the fan that I am of soccer, I admit that I am going to bet for Liverpool, I already did it at the time a couple of years ago.

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We know Real Madrid do have a long experience in the Champions League but this time they will play against each other for a stronger squad, maybe old and young players can be combined with good tactics that will make the players more aggressive in their game I can't tell the difference between the two but for sure the final with Liverpool will be a great fight.
Of all things there must be an influence including at Liverpool Klopp has an important role in it, with a sharp striker for Liverpool making some believe they can win and give their best.
Real Madrid's history in the Champions League final is truly incredible, it's difficult for any other team around the world to achieve a record like theirs in the next 10 years in my opinion. But maybe this season something different can still be expected especially Liverpool have been playing in good form all season. They reached several finals and of course they are already targeting a 7th title this season.

Of course it's going to be a very good game to look forward to, it's a final that will be amazing although I really want Manchester City to reach this final against Liverpool. But it doesn't matter because they've tried to give their best.

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I agree with you it is better and it makes sense for Liverpool to focus on the Champions League final rather than the Premier League. Because the English league champion is in the hands of Manchester City, while the Champions League winner is Liverpool's own decision if they can win the final match against Real Madrid, this automatically becomes Jurgen Klopp's achievement and Liverpool will definitely make a new history in the Champions League.
It's true that they are eyeing the EPL now only hoping for the worst game from City but this looks like it will be very difficult to happen considering they are now only focused there. different from the Champions League now because here they just have to play better than Madrid and try to score goals to win and that is in their own hands.
focus is something that is quite important because indeed when their focus is divided they can lose everything, be it the EPL or Champions League

^ They have to set their goals accordingly. They cannot just hope for the best and go for the win in both the Champions League and the English Premier League. Because that might result negatively and end in a bad way for them. I believe that they should really concentrate on the Champions League right now and play the situations in the English Premier League. Obviously, if Manchester City does not lose they don't have any chance. But if Manchester City does lose then they should start thinking about the English Premier League but even then it might be too late.

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We know Real Madrid do have a long experience in the Champions League but this time they will play against each other for a stronger squad, maybe old and young players can be combined with good tactics that will make the players more aggressive in their game I can't tell the difference between the two but for sure the final with Liverpool will be a great fight.
Of all things there must be an influence including at Liverpool Klopp has an important role in it, with a sharp striker for Liverpool making some believe they can win and give their best.
Real Madrid's history in the Champions League final is truly incredible, it's difficult for any other team around the world to achieve a record like theirs in the next 10 years in my opinion. But maybe this season something different can still be expected especially Liverpool have been playing in good form all season. They reached several finals and of course they are already targeting a 7th title this season.

Of course it's going to be a very good game to look forward to, it's a final that will be amazing although I really want Manchester City to reach this final against Liverpool. But it doesn't matter because they've tried to give their best.

exact! I totally agree with you
that's why I think Real Madrid wins this final
I'm sure? Not at all
but if I have to choose between the two a possible winner for me that is Real Madrid, that's it
I don't bet on it

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exact! I totally agree with you
that's why I think Real Madrid wins this final
I'm sure? Not at all
but if I have to choose between the two a possible winner for me that is Real Madrid, that's it
I don't bet on it
We won't see the best chances until we look at the line-ups of both teams for the final. So far Madrid has been favored a lot because of the history and the star players in the team. as well as the highly prolific Liverpool duo, Mane and Salah.
however, some problems that a team can experience during important matches can occur. like losing a key player in a team that can't be used due to injury.
I would bet on this match, but not to see the bookie analysis and offers for now.



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Real Madrid are the most difficult team to beat especially in finals, the statistics is in their favor. This season Real Madrid have had the most difficult run in the knockout stages to the final. So it's quite fair to think they deserve winning it.
All the Real Madrid supporters would say they pride team will win the final game, as well as supporters of Liverpool, would have said Liverpool was able to overcome Real Madrid in the final.
Real Madrid and Liverpool have good statistics in the Champions League, both are also very difficult to beat. The Champions League final is eagerly awaited by all football fans, especially in this final which will bring together two big teams.
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Real Madrid is also dependent on the older generation to do most of the work right now. Those people surely need a lot of rest because they will not be able to play with their 100% in the final. I think Real Madrid knows very well what to do because they have been playing really well up till now and even though it might look like Liverpool has an upper hand over Real Madrid in the finals I think that is not the case.
because Madrid's old players have composure and experience on the pitch. Moreover, for this final, Madrid will certainly overcome the pace of the Liverpool players with their tactics.
Madrid also has a decent mix of young players. The combination of experience, composure, and speed of the young players to date has given Madrid strength in facing important matches.
I don't think which team is better. because both teams are the best at the moment. both deserve to be at the top of the fight. it will provide great entertainment for us.
We know Real Madrid do have a long experience in the Champions League but this time they will play against each other for a stronger squad, maybe old and young players can be combined with good tactics that will make the players more aggressive in their game I can't tell the difference between the two but for sure the final with Liverpool will be a great fight.
Of all things there must be an influence including at Liverpool Klopp has an important role in it, with a sharp striker for Liverpool making some believe they can win and give their best.

Liverpool needs to remember that they have to contain Benzema. Otherwise, they will have a bigger problem because there's a lot in a crate form right now and I really don't see Benzema being out of touch in the champions league final.

Another thing is they have to remember that Manchester City did a great job of not letting Benzema have a very good match but Real Madrid still managed to win that match.  And Real Madrid also needs to be careful that they are defending is not the greatest and Liverpool is surely going to try to exploit that.
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May 13, 2022, 02:13:41 PM
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Real Madrid is also dependent on the older generation to do most of the work right now. Those people surely need a lot of rest because they will not be able to play with their 100% in the final. I think Real Madrid knows very well what to do because they have been playing really well up till now and even though it might look like Liverpool has an upper hand over Real Madrid in the finals I think that is not the case.
because Madrid's old players have composure and experience on the pitch. Moreover, for this final, Madrid will certainly overcome the pace of the Liverpool players with their tactics.
Madrid also has a decent mix of young players. The combination of experience, composure, and speed of the young players to date has given Madrid strength in facing important matches.
I don't think which team is better. because both teams are the best at the moment. both deserve to be at the top of the fight. it will provide great entertainment for us.
We know Real Madrid do have a long experience in the Champions League but this time they will play against each other for a stronger squad, maybe old and young players can be combined with good tactics that will make the players more aggressive in their game I can't tell the difference between the two but for sure the final with Liverpool will be a great fight.
Of all things there must be an influence including at Liverpool Klopp has an important role in it, with a sharp striker for Liverpool making some believe they can win and give their best.

Liverpool needs to remember that they have to contain Benzema. Otherwise, they will have a bigger problem because there's a lot in a crate form right now and I really don't see Benzema being out of touch in the champions league final.

Another thing is they have to remember that Manchester City did a great job of not letting Benzema have a very good match but Real Madrid still managed to win that match.  And Real Madrid also needs to be careful that they are defending is not the greatest and Liverpool is surely going to try to exploit that.

I think Liverpool will be much more carefull then Man City but they wont be so dominant as Man City was in those two matches. Real Madrid will have a chance to win the match and have more space then in the match against City. Liverpool is looking for the revenge from last time they played in the champions league final

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