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May 14, 2022, 04:30:22 PM
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Several times I get information from the facebook homepage which sometimes appears, the information I get is about the new format changes that will be implemented in the 2024/2025 season, and it looks like this is official from UEFA which previously I thought was just a hoax or something like that. The first change is about increasing the number of contestants, from 32 to 36 and for the second change is not using the group stage. But they're going to have a competition format or something like what might be called a mini league or something like that, I haven't looked further either. Regarding this, I personally just hope that whatever format is used, at least the competition to enter the Champions League does not make it easy, because if it is made easy, the competition for Champions League tickets will no longer be competitive and exciting.
It doesn't matter if the format of the Champions League will change again in the future, but of course I will convey the same hope because when it gets easier this competition is no longer interesting. I haven't found any news about the changes or plans yet, but maybe we'll find out soon enough when the rules are official.


Champion league is for real champions and of the change in the format will result in making the UEFA Champions League less competitive then I would find the new format not welcome by football fans, but am well aware of how knowledgeable the organizers are so whatever format their introduce it can only make the competition more competitive than ever.

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May 14, 2022, 04:33:34 PM
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I still haven't judged Liverpool completely because they still have some important matches in the league we don't know if the players will be all fit or not, obviously we can make an analysis after the EPL league is over for my observers.

Of course both coaches want all their players to be in the best condition. They will do that too. Maybe Madrid are a little more relaxed because they already have the La Liga title. For Liverpool, they still have the FA final today. They also have a chance to win the EPL, so Liverpool have more chances to get injured the players.

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May 14, 2022, 04:43:07 PM
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I still haven't judged Liverpool completely because they still have some important matches in the league we don't know if the players will be all fit or not, obviously we can make an analysis after the EPL league is over for my observers.

Of course both coaches want all their players to be in the best condition. They will do that too. Maybe Madrid are a little more relaxed because they already have the La Liga title. For Liverpool, they still have the FA final today. They also have a chance to win the EPL, so Liverpool have more chances to get injured the players.

This is an old problem of English clubs in European competitions.
English clubs have more domestic competitions than clubs from other countries and many more matches, and a very long and exhausting domestic football league.
Pep and Klopp have not been happy with such a situation for a long time and are trying to change it but without success.
Of course, it's all about money, but because of that, English clubs are less competitive in European competitions and have much less time to rest and prepare for such important matches.

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May 14, 2022, 04:53:01 PM
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The Real Madrid squad must support Benzema to win the Ballon d'Or at the end of his career, if Real Madrid can win the Champions League, this is Benzema chance to win the Ballon d'Or. Benzema has made the best contribution to Real Madrid this season, anyone would agree that Benzema is the Real Madrid player who has shone the most this season. Without Benzema in the squad, Real Madrid had a hard time scored goals.
Benzema is a central of Real Madrid attacking system and he gets support from other players. In return, he has contributed a lot for Real Madrid in this season. They can not either win La Liga or go far like this in Champions League if Benzema did not score too many goals to help them come back after were lead by opponents, from PSG to Chelsea and Manchester City.

If Real Madrid win Champions League, only one match, the final in Paris, Benzema will very likely to win Ballon d'Or.

It seems that if no big injuries happen, two teams will almost have their best players for the final according to Sportsgambler.com's table for injuries and suspension


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May 14, 2022, 04:54:38 PM
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Of course both coaches want all their players to be in the best condition. They will do that too. Maybe Madrid are a little more relaxed because they already have the La Liga title. For Liverpool, they still have the FA final today. They also have a chance to win the EPL, so Liverpool have more chances to get injured the players.
What you said is happening already. Salah has been forced out of the game because of injury. I believe he would have continued but Jurgen may be saving him for Champions League finals. If he stress him the more, he might not be available for Champions League finals.
Liverpool players are under pressure and they might have fatigue for the finals. The second half of the FA cup has started already and Chelsea seem to have found their way into the match. We will expect a better play this second half. I'm off to FA cup thread.

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Several times I get information from the facebook homepage which sometimes appears, the information I get is about the new format changes that will be implemented in the 2024/2025 season, and it looks like this is official from UEFA which previously I thought was just a hoax or something like that. The first change is about increasing the number of contestants, from 32 to 36 and for the second change is not using the group stage. But they're going to have a competition format or something like what might be called a mini league or something like that, I haven't looked further either. Regarding this, I personally just hope that whatever format is used, at least the competition to enter the Champions League does not make it easy, because if it is made easy, the competition for Champions League tickets will no longer be competitive and exciting.
I dislike this new format UEFA is coming up with; basically the new format will be based on seedings, the big eight will play teams ranked 28-36, who will be interested. It will fixed so the big teams reach last sixteen and make it more difficult for lesser teams to get where they did this year. It's quite disappointing to say the less. This is a lesser version of the super league. It's all about money and truth is there is absolutely no reason to change the current format at all.

 
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May 14, 2022, 05:34:21 PM
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I still haven't judged Liverpool completely because they still have some important matches in the league we don't know if the players will be all fit or not, obviously we can make an analysis after the EPL league is over for my observers.

Of course both coaches want all their players to be in the best condition. They will do that too. Maybe Madrid are a little more relaxed because they already have the La Liga title. For Liverpool, they still have the FA final today. They also have a chance to win the EPL, so Liverpool have more chances to get injured the players.
Liverpool will be drained of stamina more than Real Madrid because they are still running several important matches besides the Champions League final. Now they are playing against Chelsea And it's not something easy, even until the 89th minute the score was still 0-0, the possibility of the match will continue until the penalty shootout, this is really tiring for them.

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May 14, 2022, 06:24:20 PM
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Of course both coaches want all their players to be in the best condition. They will do that too. Maybe Madrid are a little more relaxed because they already have the La Liga title. For Liverpool, they still have the FA final today. They also have a chance to win the EPL, so Liverpool have more chances to get injured the players.
What you said is happening already. Salah has been forced out of the game because of injury. I believe he would have continued but Jurgen may be saving him for Champions League finals. If he stress him the more, he might not be available for Champions League finals.
Liverpool players are under pressure and they might have fatigue for the finals. The second half of the FA cup has started already and Chelsea seem to have found their way into the match. We will expect a better play this second half. I'm off to FA cup thread.

118 minutes have been played in the match and neither team has scored. and this is really bad news for Liverpool because they cannot afford to give their players so much playing time right before the Champions League Final. this will surely get some players fatigued and that is not ideal for Liverpool at all.  by the looks of it, this match is surely going to be decided by penalties.

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May 14, 2022, 06:36:59 PM
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Real Madrid v Liverpool is going to be a great match I think. Real Madrid have come a long way and they have had very tough opponents so far. Compared to Liverpool, they had tougher opponents after the group stage for sure. But this doesn't show that they are better than Liverpool now of course. Liverpool can even be a more challenging opponent for Real Madrid. I don't expect them to be complacent of course. I just hope to see a big rivalry in this match and both teams can score. And I believe Real Madrid will be reaching the title.

Liverpool and Real Madrid match will always be interesting and entertaining because of the kind of players the both teams possess. Real Madrid have been performing very well in all their all there match  but I'm still very sure that Liverpool tougher than real madrid,  not that Real Madrid can't win Liverpool,  they are both great teams to watch.

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May 14, 2022, 06:38:13 PM
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A big game with a great atmosphere like the Champions League I think of course Real Madrid and Liverpool will try to play it safe and minimize mistakes because as we know, in the Final the team that scores first usually they will try to play more defensively. And as for Liverpool, I think they have to choose between the FA Cup or the Champions League because it is impossible to play their regular players in those two games without having a substitute.
That's realistic, because the player's condition factor determines the outcome of the game. And that is very important if you want to place a bet. Because I support Madrid of course, from the beginning I would bet for Madrid. In the game, Liverpol is a little neat, but Madrid's effectiveness will certainly make them better. What I didn't expect was that Madrid were hot too late to fight. This happened in the previous round. Madrid made all the fans afraid of losing, but in the end they were able to win.
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May 14, 2022, 07:15:55 PM
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A big game with a great atmosphere like the Champions League I think of course Real Madrid and Liverpool will try to play it safe and minimize mistakes because as we know, in the Final the team that scores first usually they will try to play more defensively. And as for Liverpool, I think they have to choose between the FA Cup or the Champions League because it is impossible to play their regular players in those two games without having a substitute.
That's realistic, because the player's condition factor determines the outcome of the game. And that is very important if you want to place a bet. Because I support Madrid of course, from the beginning I would bet for Madrid. In the game, Liverpol is a little neat, but Madrid's effectiveness will certainly make them better. What I didn't expect was that Madrid were hot too late to fight. This happened in the previous round. Madrid made all the fans afraid of losing, but in the end they were able to win.
Real Madrid's mental steel must also be a concern for Liverpool because they will not give up until the final whistle.
Oh yes, Liverpool today have successfully won and won the FA Cup title from Chelsea. They have to finish the match with a penalty shootout. Congratulations to Liverpool on the title they won today.

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May 14, 2022, 07:18:51 PM
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Now that Liverpool has won the FA cup finals the next is the champion league which is just two weeks away from now, congratulations Liverpool for tonight winning and hoping for more we are the champion of this season.
The game was tough but Liverpool narrowly won over Chelsea which is an indication that the champion league between Liverpool and Real Madrid will be tougher but Liverpool will surely have the upper hand.

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May 14, 2022, 07:36:17 PM
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Several times I get information from the facebook homepage which sometimes appears, the information I get is about the new format changes that will be implemented in the 2024/2025 season, and it looks like this is official from UEFA which previously I thought was just a hoax or something like that. The first change is about increasing the number of contestants, from 32 to 36 and for the second change is not using the group stage. But they're going to have a competition format or something like what might be called a mini league or something like that, I haven't looked further either. Regarding this, I personally just hope that whatever format is used, at least the competition to enter the Champions League does not make it easy, because if it is made easy, the competition for Champions League tickets will no longer be competitive and exciting.

If the number of teams participating in the Champions League has increased, but the number of countries in the UEFA zone has not, then do you think it has become easier to get into the Champions League or not?  Roll Eyes I think the answer is obvious.
In my opinion, the new format is complete bullshit that is made for only one thing: to ensure that all top clubs get into the playoffs, protecting them from lucky outsiders. And this was done for one reason: the fight against the Super League.

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May 14, 2022, 07:40:46 PM
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Now that Liverpool has won the FA cup finals the next is the champion league which is just two weeks away from now, congratulations Liverpool for tonight winning and hoping for more we are the champion of this season.
The game was tough but Liverpool narrowly won over Chelsea which is an indication that the champion league between Liverpool and Real Madrid will be tougher but Liverpool will surely have the upper hand.
Liverpool victory in the FA Cup is still not worth the heat in the Champions League Final which is much more stressful. They both have a winning mentality, so it's very appropriate for Real Madrid and Liverpool to meet. Although actually Liverpool's task is still quite solid in the Premier League and it becomes their biggest challenge. Moreover, the difference with Manchester City is getting thinner, it slightly makes Salah and his friends have the motivation to continue to play perfectly with quite a lot of risk.

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May 14, 2022, 07:46:52 PM
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I can also remember something from the Champions League final a few years ago, when both teams already faced each other. Then there was a head orl for the goalkeeper of Liverpool who then committed 2 blunders that resulted in Real Madrid taking the title. In that respect, Liverpool still have something to make up for against Madrid. Liverpool is slightly favorite.

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May 14, 2022, 08:09:24 PM
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Of course both coaches want all their players to be in the best condition. They will do that too. Maybe Madrid are a little more relaxed because they already have the La Liga title. For Liverpool, they still have the FA final today. They also have a chance to win the EPL, so Liverpool have more chances to get injured the players.
What you said is happening already. Salah has been forced out of the game because of injury. I believe he would have continued but Jurgen may be saving him for Champions League finals. If he stress him the more, he might not be available for Champions League finals.
Liverpool players are under pressure and they might have fatigue for the finals. The second half of the FA cup has started already and Chelsea seem to have found their way into the match. We will expect a better play this second half. I'm off to FA cup thread.
Yea I thought as much, it was not a serious injury to Mohamed Salah but jurgen Klopp didn't want to risk it, because they have the champions League which is a very important competition more than the fa cup if you ask me, I also think if Manchester City win their game against West ham tomorrow, Jürgen Klopp will give up and feed in his second eleven in their game against Southampton on Tuesday, he will see it as an opportunity to rest some of his key players, especially now that he has started losing key players and Fabinho absence was felt in today's game.

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Benzema is a central of Real Madrid attacking system and he gets support from other players. In return, he has contributed a lot for Real Madrid in this season. They can not either win La Liga or go far like this in Champions League if Benzema did not score too many goals to help them come back after were lead by opponents, from PSG to Chelsea and Manchester City.

If Real Madrid win Champions League, only one match, the final in Paris, Benzema will very likely to win Ballon d'Or.
This season, Benzema has played really well and now it has been confirmed that he is the La Liga Top Scorer and Champions League Top Scorer, which directly proves that his goal productivity is now very good.
on the other hand it wouldn't have gone up too much if it all went to Benzema but they have no other choice now.
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Hopefully there are no injured players before this match starts because indeed they have to be with full strength to make this match even more exciting

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May 14, 2022, 09:44:38 PM
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Of course both coaches want all their players to be in the best condition. They will do that too. Maybe Madrid are a little more relaxed because they already have the La Liga title. For Liverpool, they still have the FA final today. They also have a chance to win the EPL, so Liverpool have more chances to get injured the players.
What you said is happening already. Salah has been forced out of the game because of injury. I believe he would have continued but Jurgen may be saving him for Champions League finals. If he stress him the more, he might not be available for Champions League finals.
Liverpool players are under pressure and they might have fatigue for the finals. The second half of the FA cup has started already and Chelsea seem to have found their way into the match. We will expect a better play this second half. I'm off to FA cup thread.
Yea I thought as much, it was not a serious injury to Mohamed Salah but jurgen Klopp didn't want to risk it, because they have the champions League which is a very important competition more than the fa cup if you ask me, I also think if Manchester City win their game against West ham tomorrow, Jürgen Klopp will give up and feed in his second eleven in their game against Southampton on Tuesday, he will see it as an opportunity to rest some of his key players, especially now that he has started losing key players and Fabinho absence was felt in today's game.

Finally, what was feared was due to Liverpool's busy schedule, making Mohamed Salah injured in the FA Cup final match. Which Salah had to leave
the field early in the 33rd minute, but it looks like Salah's injury isn't that bad, because no extreme collision occurs. What happened to Mohamed Salah
in this FA Cup final, reminds us of when Liverpool met Real Madrid in the Champions League final 4 years ago. At that time Salah had to be taken off
in the 31st minute due to injury, and now the same situation happened to Salah in the FA Cup final. Now we all have to wait for a follow-up
assessment from the Liverpool medical team regarding Salah's injury, I hope Salah doesn't get seriously injured. Since Liverpool will soon be playing
in the Champions League final against Real Madrid, If Salah is absent, he doesn't play because of injury, this is of course very detrimental to Liverpool.
So far, Salah's contribution is very big for Liverpool, so Liverpool really need Salah's presence in this year's Champions League final.

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May 14, 2022, 09:59:05 PM
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What you said is happening already. Salah has been forced out of the game because of injury. I believe he would have continued but Jurgen may be saving him for Champions League finals. If he stress him the more, he might not be available for Champions League finals.
Salah was experience a very bad day because of the injury during the FA Cup. And this is crucial enough because he must be in the club and must be fit to face the final of UCL and this is more important. The coach may be consumed enough with the situation at the time, that is also a final of the FA Cup where at least they must win it. And Salah's possibility for injury is there, but it is not expected, but inf act, this really happens. Salah and Mane are key players for Liverpool, which is very risky. Hoepfully Salah will recover soona nd will exactly fit in the final of UCL. 

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May 14, 2022, 09:59:15 PM
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Liverpool victory in the FA Cup is still not worth the heat in the Champions League Final which is much more stressful. They both have a winning mentality, so it's very appropriate for Real Madrid and Liverpool to meet.
Both Real Madrid and Liverpool have a good mentality and they also have a good squad. So, it will be a tough match in the final UCL. Playing a long time in FA Cup (until the penalty shootout), won't be a good condition for Liverpool players, some players are probably tired. It will be a problem for Liverpool if their players are not in their best condition for the final UCL. Although Liverpool players have a winning mentality and they are a solid squad, they can't show their best if they are not in a good condition. I am a bit worried that Liverpool can't play well in the final UCL as people's expected.


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