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Author Topic: ⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!  (Read 129803 times)
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June 03, 2022, 09:35:09 AM
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Off course Liverpool seems to be the major loser this season, but then the club tried to have come second in both premiere and champion league and also winning the FA cup this season. So i will not see Liverpool as a total failure this season.
A hard blow for Liverpool fans because many think Liverpool's game is not optimal without lifting a trophy in the big league, Liverpool has dropped from defeat in two prestigious leagues this season but should we break the spirit of Liverpool supporters!


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June 03, 2022, 09:40:58 AM
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Well, I believe Liverpool played well but was really unlucky. Mohammed Salah had a few chances to score but the goalkeeper of Real Madrid was really good. And for those who are criticizing Mohammed Salah because of him not being able to score, I am quite sure that they don't know what they are talking about. And I don't think it was overhyped considering the fact that it was a Champions League final.
The truth is, English Media hyped all the English clubs and players that played against Real Madrid. It was very pathetic. You should have seen how the likes of Foden were being praised for being a much better upcoming players than Vini Jr (well at least Justice was served right, Vini Jr silenced all of them all the way to the Trophy)

Being a 14 times UCL winner, Real Madrid deserves some bit of respect and I hope it is a big lesson learned for the doubters.

Yes, it is obvious that the media had hyped up the final and they hyped up the win for Liverpool. And it is obvious why they did this because the English Premier League is the most competitive right now and that's why they will look for content. I honestly believe that both teams had an equal chance of winning in the Champions League finals. And after all Real Madrid was the better team. I think Real Madrid did not get the respect just because they didn't have a squad stacked with great players.

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June 03, 2022, 09:55:08 AM
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Off course Liverpool seems to be the major loser this season, but then the club tried to have come second in both premiere and champion league and also winning the FA cup this season. So i will not see Liverpool as a total failure this season.
In total Liverpool have not failed this season and have tried their best to win all the trophies, it's just that the luck factor has not been maximized so Liverpool will definitely try again next season and Liverpool will definitely be a team to be reckoned with in several leagues next season.

A hard blow for Liverpool fans because many think Liverpool's game is not optimal without lifting a trophy in the big league, Liverpool has dropped from defeat in two prestigious leagues this season but should we break the spirit of Liverpool supporters!
I don't think it's too hard for Liverpool fans because Liverpool don't lose in large numbers and always compete in a healthy manner in every match and what Liverpool is up against is also a very big team like Real Madrid in the Champions League, so it's still very natural if the defeat is very thin and it's not something that should be taken as a slump for Liverpool.
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June 03, 2022, 11:04:19 AM
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I think Real Madrid did not get the respect just because they didn't have a squad stacked with great players.
It was just bias. Most of the commentary was all siding with the English sides. Pundits such as Micheal Owen were just spewing garbage, and they still are to this date.

A squad having greats and Legends like Modric, Marcelo, Benzema, Toni Kroos, Casemiro, Carvajal, Bale etc. can not be under looked. These players have more Champion's league trophies than some teams  Grin

How many such legends does Manchester City or Liverpool have in their current squad, for starters?

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June 03, 2022, 11:24:12 AM
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A hard blow for Liverpool fans because many think Liverpool's game is not optimal without lifting a trophy in the big league, Liverpool has dropped from defeat in two prestigious leagues this season but should we break the spirit of Liverpool supporters!
Liverpool cannot be said to have failed miserably this season just because they didn't win the Premier League and Champions League. Their failure in these two competitions shouldn't be considered a very bad thing and I think their fans should respect that. Liverpool have tried to be the best in the Premier League, but unfortunately Manchester City couldn't be stopped by Aston Villa in their last game. In the Champions League Liverpool were just unlucky because they couldn't score, it's regrettable but the fans shouldn't think it's been a bad season for Liverpool.

I'm not a Liverpool fan, but I think it's still worth their effort this season especially because they managed to have the chance to win four times over. But unfortunately, the two titles they dreamed of this season had to be lost because other teams were better or luckier than them.

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June 03, 2022, 11:38:49 AM
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I think Real Madrid did not get the respect just because they didn't have a squad stacked with great players.
It was just bias. Most of the commentary was all siding with the English sides. Pundits such as Micheal Owen were just spewing garbage, and they still are to this date.

A squad having greats and Legends like Modric, Marcelo, Benzema, Toni Kroos, Casemiro, Carvajal, Bale etc. can not be under looked. These players have more Champion's league trophies than some teams  Grin

How many such legends does Manchester City or Liverpool have in their current squad, for starters?
Even the Champions League trophy that their players get is more than the big teams in the Premier League, does not reduce my respect for English teams but statements that corner me I think must be answered with the same statement. We cannot deny that Real Madrid is filled with great and experienced players. Even some people think their time is over (senior players at Real Madrid) but they are able to win prestigious trophies.

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June 03, 2022, 04:17:46 PM
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Even the Champions League trophy that their players get is more than the big teams in the Premier League, does not reduce my respect for English teams but statements that corner me I think must be answered with the same statement. We cannot deny that Real Madrid is filled with great and experienced players. Even some people think their time is over (senior players at Real Madrid) but they are able to win prestigious trophies.
Real Madrid have a history of great teams in the Champions League and they seem to know what they have to do when they reach the final. The mentality of the Real Madrid players is much stronger than any team in the Champions League, so if they reach the final then the mandatory target is the title.

Real Madrid have only failed 3 times in the final, and that has happened in the past. But every other final after those 3 fail, it seems they can't lose and have to win the title no matter what.
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June 03, 2022, 04:35:36 PM
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Liverpool were the major losers this season,although they tried to get to the final of the champions league,and also was in a competition with Manchester city to win the premier league this season,but all went fruitless,when they lost to Real  Madrid,and Mancity came back from a 2-0 down to win Aston Villa,and later won 3-2 in a bid to win the tittle.Liverpool were left frustrated after they didn't win any of those two.I am not really happy that Liverpool did not win the champions league,because English teams have been playing well and deserve to win it again.
Off course Liverpool seems to be the major loser this season, but then the club tried to have come second in both premiere and champion league and also winning the FA cup this season. So i will not see Liverpool as a total failure this season.

to me i don't consider them a looser, yes because they have shown the entire world all they got and make a pursuit for it, there's a slogan that said "if you aimed at the sun but arrived at the moon then you've tried enough" at least a milestone is achieved, we all know that we never expected such a good performance from Liverpool this season but since we all see the dexterity in them, we supported them to reach the final which they did even though they never win the trophy.
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June 03, 2022, 04:40:09 PM
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A hard blow for Liverpool fans because many think Liverpool's game is not optimal without lifting a trophy in the big league, Liverpool has dropped from defeat in two prestigious leagues this season but should we break the spirit of Liverpool supporters!
Liverpool cannot be said to have failed miserably this season just because they didn't win the Premier League and Champions League. Their failure in these two competitions shouldn't be considered a very bad thing and I think their fans should respect that. Liverpool have tried to be the best in the Premier League, but unfortunately Manchester City couldn't be stopped by Aston Villa in their last game. In the Champions League Liverpool were just unlucky because they couldn't score, it's regrettable but the fans shouldn't think it's been a bad season for Liverpool.

I'm not a Liverpool fan, but I think it's still worth their effort this season especially because they managed to have the chance to win four times over. But unfortunately, the two titles they dreamed of this season had to be lost because other teams were better or luckier than them.
Liverpool's performance in the just-concluded season is somewhat commendable even though the club failed to carry the championship trophy, am a Liverpool fan but then I must say with the level of experience built by real Madrid over time their more deserving of the trophy. Check real Madrid's performance this season, their top of the league and managed to lift the trophy as experience champions I know Liverpool tried their best to make it to the finals, but champion league experience makes real Madrid emarge the winner, let us not total write out Liverpool performance this season just because their failure to carry the trophy.

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June 03, 2022, 04:59:48 PM
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I think Real Madrid did not get the respect just because they didn't have a squad stacked with great players.
It was just bias. Most of the commentary was all siding with the English sides. Pundits such as Micheal Owen were just spewing garbage, and they still are to this date.

A squad having greats and Legends like Modric, Marcelo, Benzema, Toni Kroos, Casemiro, Carvajal, Bale etc. can not be under looked. These players have more Champion's league trophies than some teams  Grin

How many such legends does Manchester City or Liverpool have in their current squad, for starters?
That's too much of an understatement and it turns out that what happened on the field was still the legendary player mentioned that made their game calm even though possession lost but Real Madrid and their squad were able to make a comeback with a win, isn't that a sign that Real Madrid when they are in the game? in the final it will be very different, as the final itself will win it.

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June 03, 2022, 05:02:50 PM
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It was just bias. Most of the commentary was all siding with the English sides. Pundits such as Micheal Owen were just spewing garbage, and they still are to this date.

A squad having greats and Legends like Modric, Marcelo, Benzema, Toni Kroos, Casemiro, Carvajal, Bale etc. can not be under looked. These players have more Champion's league trophies than some teams  Grin

How many such legends does Manchester City or Liverpool have in their current squad, for starters?

I really laughed at the fact that even after losing to Real Madrid, Owen said that Liverpool is still the strongest club in the world  Grin While Liverpool is number two in both the Premier League and the Champions League. I saw that even some English athletes said that Owen was unfair in his statements. But it looks like Owen has been heading the ball too much in his day and he doesn't really care if his words match reality.

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June 03, 2022, 05:06:50 PM
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Liverpool were the major losers this season,although they tried to get to the final of the champions league,and also was in a competition with Manchester city to win the premier league this season,but all went fruitless,when they lost to Real  Madrid,and Mancity came back from a 2-0 down to win Aston Villa,and later won 3-2 in a bid to win the tittle.Liverpool were left frustrated after they didn't win any of those two.I am not really happy that Liverpool did not win the champions league,because English teams have been playing well and deserve to win it again.
Liverpool wanted to get the quadruple or maybe a treble this just concluded season but in the end we couldn’t. They just have to settle with the Carabao and FA Cup. I understand that both the team and fans will be feeling disappointed but I think their season wasn't a bad one at all. In the EPL, as at January no one thought they could have cut the points down to one. Their route to the UEFA Champion's League final was quite easy but they were impressive and gave Real Madrid a good fight in the final.

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June 03, 2022, 05:09:45 PM
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We can see some statements that I think have become a matter of debate after this Champions League final, such as statements made by Owen which I think are a bit controversial. Indeed, everyone has the right to have an opinion and it becomes a freedom, but keep in mind that it must also be in line with what happens in reality.

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June 03, 2022, 06:01:41 PM
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Even the Champions League trophy that their players get is more than the big teams in the Premier League, does not reduce my respect for English teams but statements that corner me I think must be answered with the same statement. We cannot deny that Real Madrid is filled with great and experienced players. Even some people think their time is over (senior players at Real Madrid) but they are able to win prestigious trophies.
Real Madrid have a history of great teams in the Champions League and they seem to know what they have to do when they reach the final. The mentality of the Real Madrid players is much stronger than any team in the Champions League, so if they reach the final then the mandatory target is the title.

Real Madrid have only failed 3 times in the final, and that has happened in the past. But every other final after those 3 fail, it seems they can't lose and have to win the title no matter what.
That's right, it seems that when they reach the Finals they will definitely win and this is like a real deal for them Cheesy
In this case, mentality and experience are indeed involved in the continuation of the results, at least they know about it and they believe in it so it will be difficult to beat a team with this belief.

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June 03, 2022, 06:01:58 PM
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I think Real Madrid did not get the respect just because they didn't have a squad stacked with great players.
It was just bias. Most of the commentary was all siding with the English sides. Pundits such as Micheal Owen were just spewing garbage, and they still are to this date.

A squad having greats and Legends like Modric, Marcelo, Benzema, Toni Kroos, Casemiro, Carvajal, Bale etc. can not be under looked. These players have more Champion's league trophies than some teams  Grin

How many such legends does Manchester City or Liverpool have in their current squad, for starters?
Real Madrid doesn't get the respect they deserve because they have made winning quite easy. I want to think they are a victim of their own success, people tend to commonize their greatness. It's a shame to see what the English media made of the UEFA Champion's League final though, I understand most people would prefer an English side to have won but there's no way ideally that Liverpool is better than Real Madrid.
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June 03, 2022, 06:35:43 PM
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I think Real Madrid did not get the respect just because they didn't have a squad stacked with great players.
It was just bias. Most of the commentary was all siding with the English sides. Pundits such as Micheal Owen were just spewing garbage, and they still are to this date.

A squad having greats and Legends like Modric, Marcelo, Benzema, Toni Kroos, Casemiro, Carvajal, Bale etc. can not be under looked. These players have more Champion's league trophies than some teams  Grin

How many such legends does Manchester City or Liverpool have in their current squad, for starters?

For some correction, I meant that great players that are still in their prime or at least close to it. How many of the players that you have mentioned are still young and performing really well on a regular basis?

Real Madrid did not get the respect that they should deserve against PSG. And you all know about the squad that PSG has. I honestly think they also did not get the deserved respect against Manchester City or even Liverpool.

A lot of people thought Real Madrid is just a team with old players. And for most of the players, their prime time is behind them, that is honestly true to some extent.

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June 03, 2022, 07:08:35 PM
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To an extent, I actually didn't think Modric, Toni Kross and Casemiro would Boss the game on the finals.
Liverpool had better possession in the first half, but immediately they had the winning goal frim Vini Junior, they showed their true characters and characteristics as not just old but experienced players. Is Thiago Alacantara really over hype as they say ?
I think he did enough already, just that Real Madrid  have that winning mentality at all times. Will Carlos Ancellotti continue as Real Madrid head Coach ?

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June 03, 2022, 07:22:23 PM
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A hard blow for Liverpool fans because many think Liverpool's game is not optimal without lifting a trophy in the big league, Liverpool has dropped from defeat in two prestigious leagues this season but should we break the spirit of Liverpool supporters!
Liverpool cannot be said to have failed miserably this season just because they didn't win the Premier League and Champions League. Their failure in these two competitions shouldn't be considered a very bad thing and I think their fans should respect that. Liverpool have tried to be the best in the Premier League, but unfortunately Manchester City couldn't be stopped by Aston Villa in their last game. In the Champions League Liverpool were just unlucky because they couldn't score, it's regrettable but the fans shouldn't think it's been a bad season for Liverpool.

I'm not a Liverpool fan, but I think it's still worth their effort this season especially because they managed to have the chance to win four times over. But unfortunately, the two titles they dreamed of this season had to be lost because other teams were better or luckier than them.

I think that Liverpool did well even though they did not get trophies this season. We can say that Liverpool had a good chance of winning both the English Premier League and also the Champions League and we also can say that they missed some easy chances to gain points in the English Premier League and they could have played better in the Champions League final but after all, I think their overall performance was really good. And with the competition that they have in the English Premier League, they did more than well in my opinion. I think there will perform better in the next season and there will also be more determined to win the Champions League next time.

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A hard blow for Liverpool fans because many think Liverpool's game is not optimal without lifting a trophy in the big league, Liverpool has dropped from defeat in two prestigious leagues this season but should we break the spirit of Liverpool supporters!
Liverpool cannot be said to have failed miserably this season just because they didn't win the Premier League and Champions League. Their failure in these two competitions shouldn't be considered a very bad thing and I think their fans should respect that. Liverpool have tried to be the best in the Premier League, but unfortunately Manchester City couldn't be stopped by Aston Villa in their last game. In the Champions League Liverpool were just unlucky because they couldn't score, it's regrettable but the fans shouldn't think it's been a bad season for Liverpool.

I'm not a Liverpool fan, but I think it's still worth their effort this season especially because they managed to have the chance to win four times over. But unfortunately, the two titles they dreamed of this season had to be lost because other teams were better or luckier than them.

I think that Liverpool did well even though they did not get trophies this season. We can say that Liverpool had a good chance of winning both the English Premier League and also the Champions League and we also can say that they missed some easy chances to gain points in the English Premier League and they could have played better in the Champions League final but after all, I think their overall performance was really good. And with the competition that they have in the English Premier League, they did more than well in my opinion. I think there will perform better in the next season and there will also be more determined to win the Champions League next time.
I really agree with you, Liverpool performance last season was remarkable, they tried as much as possible playing three finals and securing two trophies, and also finishing 2nd in the table, I think it was a successful season for them despite loosing to Realmadrid in the champions league final. Perhaps with their performance last season, I think they are consider one of the best team in Europe and EPL, and with the look of things I think they will perform more better next season.

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June 03, 2022, 07:33:38 PM
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To an extent, I actually didn't think Modric, Toni Kross and Casemiro would Boss the game on the finals.
Liverpool had better possession in the first half, but immediately they had the winning goal frim Vini Junior, they showed their true characters and characteristics as not just old but experienced players. Is Thiago Alacantara really over hype as they say ?
I think he did enough already, just that Real Madrid  have that winning mentality at all times. Will Carlos Ancellotti continue as Real Madrid head Coach ?

The deal breaker was Ancelotti set up. Real Madrid did not set up to dominate or over play Liverpool, the game play was to limits Liverpool flying full backs and limit Liverpool creativity and this was done excellently. Then Casemiro was tasked with ball recovery and modric/kroos entrusted with delivery *over 85% ball accuracy on the night). it was a clutch and experienced performance from the Real Madrid team
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