⚽UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread -- 2021/22 winner - Real Madrid!

[jakdanyel]

It would be too much to ask for Messi to play like his times at Barcelona now. Because he is in a completely different place now and he is trying to perform well under this kind of a game plan. He isn't familiar with this too much due to being accustomed to Barcelona's game plan. However he is improving his performance at PSG slowly too. Maybe he wouldn't play like in the old times but he can still make a bigger contribution to the team next season. He had better do that to help PSG win the CL title finally.

[baeva]

Messi has been playing consistently well all the time. But a lot has changed with time. Messi is not that young age like before. He is old enough now. That is why he could not play well in PSG.  Due to which he is not able to perform like before. A team always depends on good players.  A team's winning rate always depends on a good player.  Messi has given a lot of good games for Barcelona.  This achievement of Messi will remain forever.  Real Madrid could play a key role as a candidate for the Champions League trophy.But they should still add a good player.

I can't see his age as a valid point as he was still doing well last season playing for Barcelona, are you telling me he's changed that much in the two months between seasons? I don't think so, it's the team that plays a role here. He's given a good amount of assists but not scored so it's not about age, it's about how he feels about the team.

[kro55]

Messi has been playing consistently well all the time. But a lot has changed with time. Messi is not that young age like before. He is old enough now. That is why he could not play well in PSG.  Due to which he is not able to perform like before. A team always depends on good players.  A team's winning rate always depends on a good player.  Messi has given a lot of good games for Barcelona.  This achievement of Messi will remain forever.  Real Madrid could play a key role as a candidate for the Champions League trophy.But they should still add a good player.

I can't see his age as a valid point as he was still doing well last season playing for Barcelona, are you telling me he's changed that much in the two months between seasons? I don't think so, it's the team that plays a role here. He's given a good amount of assists but not scored so it's not about age, it's about how he feels about the team.

Messi is now about 35 years old. I have enough doubts about whether he will be able to maintain his fitness next season. But if Messi will not be injured then we will see his great gameplay next season. Although he did not play well in Ligue 1 last season, his performance in the Champions League was very good. And my expectation is that he will perform better next season.

[Alanaz]

I can't see his age as a valid point as he was still doing well last season playing for Barcelona, are you telling me he's changed that much in the two months between seasons? I don't think so, it's the team that plays a role here. He's given a good amount of assists but not scored so it's not about age, it's about how he feels about the team.

Actually, I see that his role at PSG is a little different because in Barcelona he is the focus and there are many midfielders who provide supplies, but at PSG it is a little different because here he is the one who has to be the supplier, so his performance can still be called good because he creates a lot. Even though his assists and productivity are quite reduced, he can still score more than 10 goals in a season, in my opinion, this is still quite good.

[tygeade]

I'm not sure about that, haven't seen the potential of these two so far, yes I admit they did well in the local league but maybe different to UCL because they will face teams from Europe
But it is possible that mbappe and halland will be part of the all time top scorers of the UEFA Champions League, but maybe 10 years and more, to be on par with ronaldo and messi will likely be very difficult, ronaldo has a record of 140 goals and messi 125 goals

source : https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/0257-0e910cf2494a-5185150de9d4-1000--champions-league-all-time-top-scorers-cristiano-ronaldo-lionel-/

I agree, that is not going to be that easy at all, it is going to be an incredible challenge. Let me put it this way, Benzema had 13 goals this season right? That means you need to have 11 seasons like that in a row to pass Benzema if you start at zero.

Of course Mbappe and Haaland is doing great, and I believe they will do even more great in the future as they grow older because they will not only be good players, but they will have experience as well, Benzema did that 13 when he was 35 I believe. But the question is, will they stay healthy? And will they always be in a team that will fight for as many games as possible? That decides to many of the goals, eliminated in the groups would mean terrible for their future, and maybe both of their clubs are good now, but you do not know what will happen in 5-10 years.

[Bobrox]

Messi is now about 35 years old. I have enough doubts about whether he will be able to maintain his fitness next season. But if Messi will not be injured then we will see his great gameplay next season. Although he did not play well in Ligue 1 last season, his performance in the Champions League was very good. And my expectation is that he will perform better next season.

Not matter with Lionel Messi have reach 35 years old right now because he still play with PSG and Ligue 1 not really competitive league, I think except with Lionel Messi performance on UEFA Champion League. But how ever less reputation with player have reach above 35 years old but depending with player it self, we can see how impressive performance from Luka Modric although he was 37 years old and success give champion league and La Liga trophies for Real Madrid, but different with Lionel Messi not any contribution for first season with his club PSG, maybe he can active scoring goals and assist for next season with PSG.

[babo]

Messi is now about 35 years old. I have enough doubts about whether he will be able to maintain his fitness next season. But if Messi will not be injured then we will see his great gameplay next season. Although he did not play well in Ligue 1 last season, his performance in the Champions League was very good. And my expectation is that he will perform better next season.

Not matter with Lionel Messi have reach 35 years old right now because he still play with PSG and Ligue 1 not really competitive league, I think except with Lionel Messi performance on UEFA Champion League. But how ever less reputation with player have reach above 35 years old but depending with player it self, we can see how impressive performance from Luka Modric although he was 37 years old and success give champion league and La Liga trophies for Real Madrid, but different with Lionel Messi not any contribution for first season with his club PSG, maybe he can active scoring goals and assist for next season with PSG.

true what you say, but the character of Messi is very particular
if he finds an environment where he is comfortable with him, then he is very prolific and profitable
if he doesn't like it very well, then he pays nothing

it's the price to pay to have his genius on the team

[MrcMrc]

Ronaldo made the best choice by leaving Real Madrid although Manchester United may have not been the best choice for Ronaldo to transfer to then that was the only available option for Ronaldo since he was undervalued at Real Madrid with the rejection of his new salary demand after performing extraordinarily to put the club in a good spot.

[hahay]

Messi is now about 35 years old. I have enough doubts about whether he will be able to maintain his fitness next season. But if Messi will not be injured then we will see his great gameplay next season. Although he did not play well in Ligue 1 last season, his performance in the Champions League was very good. And my expectation is that he will perform better next season.

Not matter with Lionel Messi have reach 35 years old right now because he still play with PSG and Ligue 1 not really competitive league, I think except with Lionel Messi performance on UEFA Champion League. But how ever less reputation with player have reach above 35 years old but depending with player it self, we can see how impressive performance from Luka Modric although he was 37 years old and success give champion league and La Liga trophies for Real Madrid, but different with Lionel Messi not any contribution for first season with his club PSG, maybe he can active scoring goals and assist for next season with PSG.

true what you say, but the character of Messi is very particular
if he finds an environment where he is comfortable with him, then he is very prolific and profitable
if he doesn't like it very well, then he pays nothing

it's the price to pay to have his genius on the team

But usually a player of that age even though he still looks fit, it is very possible for his speed to decrease. Messi himself at least has his own character of how to play quickly and agile, in contrast to Ronaldo who is only a target for finishing. Therefore we find where Ronaldo is still active in scoring goals while Messi has decreased but even so, movement and passes from Messi are still very much needed by the team and so it's not surprising that Messi is still being maintained.

[Davian144]

Ronaldo made the best choice by leaving Real Madrid although Manchester United may have not been the best choice for Ronaldo to transfer to then that was the only available option for Ronaldo since he was undervalued at Real Madrid with the rejection of his new salary demand after performing extraordinarily to put the club in a good spot.

What makes the Real Madrid club in such a good place is not only Ronaldo alone, but many people who have contributed to making Real Madrid impressive and I don't think Ronaldo has ever been underestimated in the Real Madrid club despite the rejection of his new salary request. Due to Ronaldo's age at that time, I thought it was natural to move to another club because Ronaldo's current performance is no longer as good as in the past so it is only natural that Real Madrid let Ronaldo go to another club.

[Jody.Drummer]

Ronaldo made the best choice by leaving Real Madrid although Manchester United may have not been the best choice for Ronaldo to transfer to then that was the only available option for Ronaldo since he was undervalued at Real Madrid with the rejection of his new salary demand after performing extraordinarily to put the club in a good spot.

What makes the Real Madrid club in such a good place is not only Ronaldo alone, but many people who have contributed to making Real Madrid impressive and I don't think Ronaldo has ever been underestimated in the Real Madrid club despite the rejection of his new salary request. Due to Ronaldo's age at that time, I thought it was natural to move to another club because Ronaldo's current performance is no longer as good as in the past so it is only natural that Real Madrid let Ronaldo go to another club.

True, I agree that Cristiano Ronaldo is not the only player who has made a big contribution to Real Madrid. At that time, almost all Real Madrid lines played very well, even in my opinion Real Madrid was the best club. But Cristiano Ronaldo is able to become the player with the highest rating, in my personal opinion.
Despite his declining form now, which made him stand out even more when he played for Real Madrid, Real Madrid are good at taking advantage of the advantages he has.

[cygan]

today the first qualifying round for the upcoming chamipons league season was drawn in nyon.
will be played on 5th and 6th july and the second legs will take place one week later ... the seeded clubs are marked in bold


https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/news/0276-154cc25545c1-6471a679f56f-1000--first-qualifying-round-draw-results/

[SatoPrincess]

Ronaldo made the best choice by leaving Real Madrid although Manchester United may have not been the best choice for Ronaldo to transfer to then that was the only available option for Ronaldo since he was undervalued at Real Madrid with the rejection of his new salary demand after performing extraordinarily to put the club in a good spot.

Ronaldo has never been underestimated in Real Madrid despite the rejection of his new salary request. It is understandable due to Ronaldo's age at that time for the club to cut down his wages. Real Madrid may be facing the same financial problems Barcelona FC are facing if they continue to pay Ronaldo his high wages. It is also not a bad idea going back to his boyhood club to continue his career, even with manchester united's poor form he has managed to score 15 plus goals last season helping his club finish 6th and qualifying for the Europa league next session.

[KTChampions]

For me, Guardiola's qualifications are still in great doubt - in Barcelona he came to the legacy of Rijkaard (where there were already the greatest players), won something and after he was beaten by Mourinho (many thought that Real would start a long domination) fled. Then he came to the already magnificent Bavaria, which had only one task: to win the Champions League. Failed. Then City with endless purchases, the most expensive team in the most expensive league. Yes, he has victories, but do they speak of his qualifications? It seems to me that the results that he achieved are highly expected in relation to the conditions that he had.

Yes, I agree with all the things that were mentioned about him. But I still believe that he should be given a little more time. I think he is still a good coach and if he had a little more attacking flexibility he could have come out with a win against Real Madrid in the Champions League. So, he should be given time for at least one more season and after that, if he fails to prove his worth then these things will make a lot more sense.

To judge his qualities as a coach, you need not more time, but more or less fair competition with other competitors. Many can take the top club with the best players and give results. I would like to see him take a club smaller than PSG/Bayern/City and be able to beat one of the listed monsters (not in one game but in the championship). But I think I will never see it because Guardiola will never take such a risk.

[RILWAN]

Ronaldo is a top Manchester United player that is highly respected by the club and even though some of his demands were not met, it doesn't mean the management disrespected the player but just admin policy.

[_BlackStar]

True, I agree that Cristiano Ronaldo is not the only player who has made a big contribution to Real Madrid. At that time, almost all Real Madrid lines played very well, even in my opinion Real Madrid was the best club. But Cristiano Ronaldo is able to become the player with the highest rating, in my personal opinion.
Despite his declining form now, which made him stand out even more when he played for Real Madrid, Real Madrid are good at taking advantage of the advantages he has.

Unfortunately we don't have him in the Champions League next season because Manchester United didn't make it to the Champions League. Maybe it's time for Ronaldo to think realistically if he wants to play in the Champions League then he will have to choose another team next season, but it looks like he will stay at Manchester United.

As for anything related to stats so far, then I'm sure we all know what it's like by now. He can still score goals, make assists and contribute to his team, but it's clear he has changed because of his age. Maybe in the next 3-4 years we will lose this mega star figure in the field.

[Bobrox]

True, I agree that Cristiano Ronaldo is not the only player who has made a big contribution to Real Madrid. At that time, almost all Real Madrid lines played very well, even in my opinion Real Madrid was the best club. But Cristiano Ronaldo is able to become the player with the highest rating, in my personal opinion.
Despite his declining form now, which made him stand out even more when he played for Real Madrid, Real Madrid are good at taking advantage of the advantages he has.

I think Cristiano Ronaldo have bigger contribution for Real Madrid because he was success become top level standing player with scored goals several years on Bernabeu, he was success give Champion league trophy for Real Madrid but I think right now his level drop drastically. How ever Real Madrid have completed composition actually on Cristiano Ronaldo position, there are have Vinicius Jr with amazing performance last season and become good partner for Karim Benzema, will change room substitute if Ronaldo back to Real Madrid and I think not really good composition if have Ronaldo on Madrid team next season.

[Sterbens]

It would be too much to ask for Messi to play like his times at Barcelona now. Because he is in a completely different place now and he is trying to perform well under this kind of a game plan. He isn't familiar with this too much due to being accustomed to Barcelona's game plan. However he is improving his performance at PSG slowly too. Maybe he wouldn't play like in the old times but he can still make a bigger contribution to the team next season. He had better do that to help PSG win the CL title finally.

Despite the fact that PSG is full of big players, for some reason sometimes we see them finding it difficult to break into the formation that supports the Champions League easily. In fact, it often happens out of sync. There is an influence or not when too many good enough players actually make each player show selfishness to each other in order to still look superior to the others which makes it not in accordance with expectations and goals.

[muratsink]

Messi has been playing consistently well all the time. But a lot has changed with time. Messi is not that young age like before. He is old enough now. That is why he could not play well in PSG.  Due to which he is not able to perform like before. A team always depends on good players.  A team's winning rate always depends on a good player.  Messi has given a lot of good games for Barcelona.  This achievement of Messi will remain forever.  Real Madrid could play a key role as a candidate for the Champions League trophy.But they should still add a good player.

everyone knows that Messi, who is a great football player in the world, as time goes by, his age is increasing, so that Lionel Messi has decreased in performance so that he has not made a good contribution to PSG this season, especially PSG itself is inhabited by young stars.kinds of Mbappe and Neymar so that it also indirectly affects Lionel Messi's performance on the field, especially Lionel Messi himself is not a good boy at PSG like when he was still strengthening Barcelona, ​​but we are very confident with Lionel Messi's contribution in the next season, especially PSG is reportedly looking for a new coach in the future. enter the competition next season

[Magicalking]

Ronaldo made the best choice by leaving Real Madrid although Manchester United may have not been the best choice for Ronaldo to transfer to then that was the only available option for Ronaldo since he was undervalued at Real Madrid with the rejection of his new salary demand after performing extraordinarily to put the club in a good spot.

What makes the Real Madrid club in such a good place is not only Ronaldo alone, but many people who have contributed to making Real Madrid impressive and I don't think Ronaldo has ever been underestimated in the Real Madrid club despite the rejection of his new salary request. Due to Ronaldo's age at that time, I thought it was natural to move to another club because Ronaldo's current performance is no longer as good as in the past so it is only natural that Real Madrid let Ronaldo go to another club.

Real madrid is a great club with great history, great players who have also played and represented the club in the past. Christiano Ronaldo is no exception, he is a legend and Real Madrid can never forget him for his efforts and glory days in Spain. Even after his departure the club has other new and old players also giving in their best, playing for the badge and winning more trophies for the club.