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March 18, 2014, 09:06:27 AM |
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What differentiates Hiro from other alts - what are the key differentiators? Anybody smart enough to clarify that in an clear cut manner? One difference is that it is thoroughly coded before launch The key difference is that it uses the X11 hashing algorithm which I hope to make the next home for GPU miners when Scrypt ASICs become common. I am working on getting mining software optimised for X11 which will help us greatly. Also the Hirocoin blockchain is secured, so anyone can use it without fear of transaction roll backs which is becoming more and more common on small coins. Attackers throw 51% hashing power at a coin to push their own chain on orphaning the original blocks. Please read the beginning thread carefully as all this is mentioned there. nxt-e's biggest volume pair is hiro/btc?
I just checked and we have the highest volume on NXT-e. Not bad going for such a new coin. Thanks HiroS, I know your announcement, but still I am struggling to understand what part of the coin, if any, is new to the altcoin community. For example, as your are saying yourself the X11 algo is taken from Darkcoin. So it is not new. Regarding the security of the blockchai e.g. Quarkcoin has 'automatic checkpointing' too. So is there anything else in the blockchain security that other coins don't have? Can you please clarify on that to convince others to become supporters.
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verdun2003
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March 18, 2014, 09:13:10 AM |
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What differentiates Hiro from other alts - what are the key differentiators? Anybody smart enough to clarify that in an clear cut manner? One difference is that it is thoroughly coded before launch The key difference is that it uses the X11 hashing algorithm which I hope to make the next home for GPU miners when Scrypt ASICs become common. I am working on getting mining software optimised for X11 which will help us greatly. Also the Hirocoin blockchain is secured, so anyone can use it without fear of transaction roll backs which is becoming more and more common on small coins. Attackers throw 51% hashing power at a coin to push their own chain on orphaning the original blocks. Please read the beginning thread carefully as all this is mentioned there. nxt-e's biggest volume pair is hiro/btc?
I just checked and we have the highest volume on NXT-e. Not bad going for such a new coin. Thanks HiroS, I know your announcement, but still I am struggling to understand what part of the coin, if any, is new to the altcoin community. For example, as your are saying yourself the X11 algo is taken from Darkcoin. So it is not new. Regarding the security of the blockchai e.g. Quarkcoin has 'automatic checkpointing' too. So is there anything else in the blockchain security that other coins don't have? Can you please clarify on that to convince others to become supporters. Yep, real tough to navigate in the crypto world right now with 500++ cryptos and 5 new cryptos/day. Anyways, the key point is X11 and mining subsidies provided to miners. If you look at Quark, they have the same ASIC resistance built in, BUT, with the halving every 2 weeks if I remember correctly, miners are left with almost no QRK's to mine. Darkcoin has an inversely proportional payout, meaning that the more miners, the less rewards. Now, you can see that even though they use X11, they are not positionned for the ASIC scrypt as their payouts are extremely low. Now, you have Hirocoin, that's under the radar right now, but when all ASIC ship, and they already begun, and GPU miners are getting more and more squeezed -you'll see a rush for an alternative. Hircoin, to the best of my knowledge -I don't know all X11 crypto's out there- is very well positionned to provide a safe heaven for GPU miners.
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HiroS (OP)
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March 18, 2014, 09:31:40 AM |
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Thanks HiroS,
I know your announcement, but still I am struggling to understand what part of the coin, if any, is new to the altcoin community. For example, as your are saying yourself the X11 algo is taken from Darkcoin. So it is not new. Regarding the security of the blockchai e.g. Quarkcoin has 'automatic checkpointing' too. So is there anything else in the blockchain security that other coins don't have? Can you please clarify on that to convince others to become supporters.
We are the first conventional X11 coin and use best-of-breed. As said by Verdun Darkcoin chooses the inversely proportional payout and Quark started their blocks at a reward of 2048 which is now 1 which is incredibly unfair. There is nothing bleeding raw new, just well selected tech and coded with choices that should prove popular. There was a gap right here where Hirocoin is and I see the long term potential of X11. Things do not have to be new, they need to be done right.
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Bigballs
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March 18, 2014, 09:35:12 AM |
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Thanks HiroS,
I know your announcement, but still I am struggling to understand what part of the coin, if any, is new to the altcoin community. For example, as your are saying yourself the X11 algo is taken from Darkcoin. So it is not new. Regarding the security of the blockchai e.g. Quarkcoin has 'automatic checkpointing' too. So is there anything else in the blockchain security that other coins don't have? Can you please clarify on that to convince others to become supporters.
We are the first conventional X11 coin and use best-of-breed. As said by Verdun Darkcoin chooses the inversely proportional payout and Quark started their blocks at a reward of 2048 which is now 1 which is incredibly unfair. There is nothing bleeding raw new, just well selected tech and coded with choices that should prove popular. There was a gap right here where Hirocoin is and I see the long term potential of X11. Things do not have to be new, they need to be done right. Agree with that. Thanks for filling in!
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March 18, 2014, 10:38:07 AM |
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Is there any reason why my hash rate should be lower with hirocoin than darkcoin? I'm using exactly the same miner with same settings but suchpool is showing 20% less hash rate than previous darkcoin pool.
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jdebunt
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March 18, 2014, 11:04:00 AM |
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giving the gpu miner a try right now so I can write up an article later today So far, only getting HW errors though, on both cards, and no accepted shares, even though i'm using the correct miner with the DarkCoin kernel....
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March 18, 2014, 11:06:59 AM |
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giving the gpu miner a try right now so I can write up an article later today So far, only getting HW errors though, on both cards, and no accepted shares, even though i'm using the correct miner with the DarkCoin kernel.... I'm using badman74 miner here and no hw errors https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=475795.0
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March 18, 2014, 11:09:11 AM |
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giving the gpu miner a try right now so I can write up an article later today So far, only getting HW errors though, on both cards, and no accepted shares, even though i'm using the correct miner with the DarkCoin kernel.... I'm using badman74 miner here and no hw errors https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=475795.0Using exactly the same one & getting HW errors right off the bat, every time a valid share would be submitted I guess.....hmz :<
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HiroS (OP)
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March 18, 2014, 11:12:16 AM |
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Is there any reason why my hash rate should be lower with hirocoin than darkcoin? I'm using exactly the same miner with same settings but suchpool is showing 20% less hash rate than previous darkcoin pool.
It should be the same. Turn off the miner and switch back to Darkcoin to do a comparison again. If they are different please try the SuprNova pool and report back here. giving the gpu miner a try right now so I can write up an article later today So far, only getting HW errors though, on both cards, and no accepted shares, even though i'm using the correct miner with the DarkCoin kernel.... Can you post your configuration and type of card?
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March 18, 2014, 11:35:42 AM |
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Can you post your configuration and type of card?
setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100 setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1 sgminer.exe --kernel darkcoin -o stratum+tcp://hiro.suprnova.cc:3313 -u jdebunt.1 -p x --thread-concurrency 8192 -I 13 -g 2 -w 256 --lookup-gap 2 --no-submit-stale --auto-fan --temp-target 74,72 Card 1 : Asus Radeon 280x Card 2 : Sapphire Radeon 7970
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HiroS (OP)
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March 18, 2014, 11:42:06 AM |
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Can you post your configuration and type of card?
setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100 setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1 sgminer.exe --kernel darkcoin -o stratum+tcp://hiro.suprnova.cc:3313 -u jdebunt.1 -p x --thread-concurrency 8192 -I 13 -g 2 -w 256 --lookup-gap 2 --no-submit-stale --auto-fan --temp-target 74,72 Card 1 : Asus Radeon 280x Card 2 : Sapphire Radeon 7970 That looks fine, try specifying the number of shaders for each card. --shaders 2048, 1536 The 7970 being 2048 and the 280X 1536. Also delete the .bin files in the sgminer folder before mining again.
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jdebunt
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March 18, 2014, 11:46:12 AM |
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That looks fine, try specifying the number of shaders for each card.
--shaders 2048, 1536
The 7970 being 2048 and the 280X 1536. Also delete the .bin files in the sgminer folder before mining again.
Still HW errors off the bat, bin files are gone but still nothing but HW errors going up, even at lower intensity
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HiroS (OP)
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March 18, 2014, 12:20:12 PM |
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Still HW errors off the bat, bin files are gone but still nothing but HW errors going up, even at lower intensity
First try mining without any specific configuration for the cards with. sgminer.exe --kernel darkcoin -o stratum+tcp://hiro.suprnova.cc:3313 -u jdebunt.1 -p x If that is unhappy try each card separately without the other one in sgminer using the following. Change for 0 to a 1 to try the second card. If you still have trouble it may be worth trying someone else's release of SPH-miner.
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jdebunt
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March 18, 2014, 01:22:45 PM |
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Still HW errors off the bat, bin files are gone but still nothing but HW errors going up, even at lower intensity
First try mining without any specific configuration for the cards with. sgminer.exe --kernel darkcoin -o stratum+tcp://hiro.suprnova.cc:3313 -u jdebunt.1 -p x If that is unhappy try each card separately without the other one in sgminer using the following. Change for 0 to a 1 to try the second card. If you still have trouble it may be worth trying someone else's release of SPH-miner. No success, tested different version, no success either grabbing the latest beta drivers for the gpu's & see what that gives, this is really frustrating when stuff works for everyone else lol I really need to start working with Linux I guess, Windows is just crap :<
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HiroS (OP)
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March 18, 2014, 01:34:29 PM |
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No success, tested different version, no success either grabbing the latest beta drivers for the gpu's & see what that gives, this is really frustrating when stuff works for everyone else lol I really need to start working with Linux I guess, Windows is just crap :< I hope you get your problems sorted, let us know how you get on. I find that Driver Fusion helps to remove old drivers before installing new ones. I ended up purchasing a copy to fully remove everything which has got my system mining again in the past. Not sure what alternatives for Driver Fusion there are.
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March 18, 2014, 01:58:21 PM |
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I hope you get your problems sorted, let us know how you get on.
I find that Driver Fusion helps to remove old drivers before installing new ones. I ended up purchasing a copy to fully remove everything which has got my system mining again in the past. Not sure what alternatives for Driver Fusion there are.
Installed beta drivers, both cards work fine , no HW, no rejects so far Excellent stuff, ty for all the help :-)
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March 18, 2014, 02:03:14 PM |
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we need to be at coinmarketcap before being added to another much bigger exchanges so people will see how we grow. and reddit tipbot maybe?
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March 18, 2014, 02:13:34 PM |
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Suprnova Pool here: https://hiro.suprnova.ccCurrently no fee with Vdiff + Stratum Idle Worker Notifs, DDoS protected/Load balanced and all the goodies you need. Get your Hiro's !
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