[ANN][0.8.6] Hirocoin - X11 - NGW - Secured Blockchain - Time Warp Limitation

[124C41]

HiroS should bring some Darkcoin tech to Hirocoin, that would very good for the coin.

[BrewCrewFan]

Ive been with HIRO since the beginning, and i must say, this price decrease is hitting me hard. I will hold until it hits a high however i just do not see any marketing going on.  I have got many people to invest with hiro but now they regret listening to me lol.  DEVS! what shall i tell them !!!

I think there are a few of us. Holding when it was 3000 I thought would be a good thing... so far been proven wrong.

[equalizer]

Is there anything interesting in Hiro or is it dead ? Any future plans for Hiro

Plenty of future plans for Hirocoin. Take a look over the last page to see what has been going on. We very recently launched a unique feature for Hirocoin not seen in another coin :p We have the ability to import private keys from QR codes within the client software itself. We would not develop such a thing if we were not aiming for the moon We are here to catch the flood of people leaving Scrypt coins looking for somewhere good to move their funds to. There will be an exodus and for those paying attention we have proved ourselves.

Right now I am helping Evan Duffield on Darkcoin. We are putting in a solution to secure the blockchain against attacks. It is only going to be a matter of time before X11 coins get the sort of attacks that are common on Scrypt. Hirocoin is secure and we are making sure that Darkcoin is also going to be secure.

Once I have finished working on Darkcoin I will be back and plan to implement a in client block explorer. Sounds like a sensible thing to have.

Good news is that Bitcoin seems to be on the rise at the minute, this is good news for everyone.

Yes help by working on Darkcoin which is doing fine and has plenty of people to work on it.  Hiro is "safe" but what use is that when it's price is tanking.  A day is an eternity in crypto.  By the time you get back to Hiro it will be too late.  It won't be long until Bittrex delist HIRO and then it truly is dead.

It's as if we tell the Hiro team that it's raining outside, and they respond by describing the color of their sweaters. Whether or not it's intentional, the point gets completely lost in a sea of kindness and assurances. Don't get me wrong - much nicer than if the team came back at us with profanity and rudeness, but their responses are often ineffective with regards to the coin's value, real or perceived by the market. I do not look to the Hiro team and blame them entirely for the price of the coin - this has many many factors. I do, however, look to the team for staying relevant within the world of crypto, but dare anyone suggest they change their original and very archaic plans for the coin, we are labeled unethical and here to do harm only. And now I read that Hiro is off helping Darkcoin? Like the other community members pointed out, shouldn't it be the other way around? Dark is doing something very very right, and it is reflected in the coin's value, the enthusiasm of the Dark community, and the market's perception of the coin. Every time I check in on this thread to see what the team is up to, I notice that the mere fact that Hiro was the #2 X11 coin after dark is supposed to be held in some high esteem for an indefinite amount of time. There is a truckload of asic-resistant coins out there promising a reduction in electricity costs. Can we finally put this 'value-add' to bed for Hirocoin? If you're still touting X11 as a compelling feature, that immediately tells everyone you've lost touch with reality. You can label me whatever you want, you can call me a Fudster or useless or you can call me Al (Paul Simon reference - come on, who's with me?), but the bottom line is that sticking with your original plan, no matter how much integrity it takes to do that, is continuing to look like a worse idea with each passing day.

So I raise a glass to you, The Hiro Team. Always so positive and kind, may your integrity and good intentions rise above the current landscape. May you also widen your blinders a bit and adjust your plans in order to give this coin a true chance at mooning one day. Remember, plans made in the absence of reality can be great, but they are by nature, uninformed. You now have more information. There is no shame in doing everything possible to improve the coin in such a way to bring value and excitement to those who believed in you from Day 1. We hope you won't let pride get in the way of making the very important changes needed to give this coin some much needed life.

[RobFordWotWot]

My sweater is striped and the best time to wear it is all the time. One with a turtle neck, that's the kind.

Seriously though this coin will speak for itself in not too long :SS

Hierophant Hiro Coin Hi

[Enzwell]

I made this a while back. It's simple but it would work well make the web site look a little slicker...

Hi-res version here: http://burningpixel.com/Transfer/HC/HC_L2_07.png

http://burningpixel.com/Transfer/HC/HC_L2_07s.png

[oknast]

Ive been with HIRO since the beginning, and i must say, this price decrease is hitting me hard. I will hold until it hits a high however i just do not see any marketing going on.  I have got many people to invest with hiro but now they regret listening to me lol.  DEVS! what shall i tell them !!!

I think there are a few of us. Holding when it was 3000 I thought would be a good thing... so far been proven wrong.

I hold about 130k mined coins and still waiting good price..

Why don`t we halve the block and change to X13?

[coinlighter]

Hello to all.I have been lurking for a very long time in  BCT, and this is the first time I'm posting therefore don't criticize me.


I have a suggestion.Why not reduce the total number of coins from 672m to ~100m or less(The coins will be 6 time rarer and the price will rise accordingly (IMO).I think the existing investors would appreciate it) and especially number of coins per block from 400 to 100 or less (the price can't sustain 576000 coins per day with such a low volume as ours  cause it's became one of the most profitable coins to "mine and dump" by multipools.Marketcap for this coin didn't fell in the past month, what’s more, it rose a little ).Then why the price fell more than 250% and continue to fall?. Soon enough it will be less then 100 sat


It's a great coin with excellent developer team and great community.
It would be a shame that this great coin dies but shitcoins continue to live.We all know that the price is a main driving force of any coin.
I want to know what the developer team and especially the community thinks about this, maybe make a poll or something.
I hope I put up my thoughts correctly because English is not my first or second language

Just my 2 hiros  
Thank you

[equalizer]

Hello to all.I have been lurking for a very long time in  BCT, and this is the first time I'm posting therefore don't criticize me.


I have a suggestion.Why not reduce the total number of coins from 672m to ~100m or less(The coins will be 6 time rarer and the price will rise accordingly (IMO).I think the existing investors would appreciate it) and especially number of coins per block from 400 to 100 or less (the price can't sustain 576000 coins per day with such a low volume as ours  cause it's became one of the most profitable coins to "mine and dump" by multipools.Marketcap for this coin didn't fell in the past month, what’s more, it rose a little ).Then why the price fell more than 250% and continue to fall?. Soon enough it will be less then 100 sat


It's a great coin with excellent developer team and great community.
It would be a shame that this great coin dies but shitcoins continue to live.We all know that the price is a main driving force of any coin.
I want to know what the developer team and especially the community thinks about this, maybe make a poll or something.
I hope I put up my thoughts correctly because English is not my first or second language

Just my 2 hiros  
Thank you

Your English is good!

This is an example of an alteration to the coin's original specifications that would help the value quite a bit, but the hiro team has refused to consider it when others have brought it up in the past. They say it's 'unethical' to change the original specs of the coin. Seems like they'd rather see Hiro go to 1 satoshi than to do what you and others have suggested or anything else that would dramatically help the coin and spark new life into it. Hiro is helping Darkcoin right now, which is very generous, but while helping out that coin, Hiro should look at the changes Darkcoin made to their coin specifications *after* launch to boost the coin's value and community excitement.

Is it unethical to be relevant, do everything possible to protect the investments of your community, to seriously consider what your investors are asking you to do even if these suggestions are outside of the hiro team's personal comfort zone? I don't think so, but Joeri and his mates banish all suggestions that fall outside of their original line of thinking, no matter how ineffective their causes may be toward the coin's value and market interest.

I think the hiro team is a group of some of the nicest people in crypto, really I do. But it's as if they started an advertising company before the internet age, and everyone is telling them to now advertise online, yet they refuse and only stick to paper fliers and billboards because that's what they told their original clients they would do. Hiro team - crypto has grown up and evolved around you. Staying true to the original plan feels like you guys are just being stubborn and prideful.

At the start, when your community complained about the coin's performance, Joeri would remind us how young the coin was and how the coin needed time. Time has come and gone.

Then people started offering ways to bring greater value to the coin by reducing the coin count or moving up the block halving. Joeri responded by telling us we were unethical for suggesting changes to the original specification and proceeded to spend weeks on a logo design contest instead.

Investors thought things were bad when the coin was at 1k sat, then at 800 sat, and now you're often under 200 sat. When people ask if the coin is dead, your response is that the coin is very much alive, then provide us with a progress report containing items you're working on that make little to no impression on your community and certainly not much to the market at large.

Then you tell us not to worry because you're working on important security features. As another community member pointed out in an earlier post - who needs security when fewer and fewer people are interested in hirocoin? I wonder, is that really the right thing to worry about right now? Some of us have doubts that greater security alone will bring interest to this coin.

Further, you remind us how being an X11 coin will have people flock to Hiro as the weather warms this summer. This is old old old news and has been for quite some time. There are a countless number of X11 coins on the market that are faring much better than hiro, are much more responsive to the needs and wants of the community without calling us unethical for suggesting ways to improve the coin, and I believe *those* are the coins miners will flock to this summer. Why? Because those are actually profitable coins to mine, and people feel these coins have greater potential for even more profit going forward.

So where does this leave us? It's tough to be critical of the guys behind hiro because they are kind, patient, and willing to take the hits like the gentlemen they are. But guys, I think you can be both nice and strategic at the same time. Being strategic can include things like being transparent, releasing newsletters, beefing up security standards, starting a multipool (Omar, you seem like a straight up, smart dude, btw), but strategy also means looking around and constantly evaluating what is working, what is not, listening to the community (there are some smart people in the hiro community - it would behoove you to consider their 'radical/unethical' ideas), and making adjustments to the coin quickly and ahead of the curve. You may have a few people call foul for changing any original intent, but guess what? Successful businesses change their parameters all the time if it means it will help the product, the investors, and ultimately bringing innovation to the market. Hirocoin feels like it's stuck in the stone age.

Joeri has labeled people like me unethical and impatient in the past. Do you guys still think I am those things now? I believe Hiro has potential - lots of coins do - but you guys need to accept that some radical changes must be made to the coin if you're going to swim with the sharks and win. We want you to win. We're telling you that your current ways are hindering your own success. Please for the love of God, listen to what your community is telling you rather than banish us cuz you don't like what we have to say and because it's not aligned with your 'strategy.' Many of us feel your strategy is off the mark, and you may be working hard on the wrong things.

[coinlighter]

Your English is good!

This is an example of an alteration to the coin's original specifications that would help the value quite a bit, but the hiro team has refused to consider it when others have brought it up in the past. They say it's 'unethical' to change the original specs of the coin. Seems like they'd rather see Hiro go to 1 satoshi than to do what you and others have suggested or anything else that would dramatically help the coin and spark new life into it. Hiro is helping Darkcoin right now, which is very generous, but while helping out that coin, Hiro should look at the changes Darkcoin made to their coin specifications *after* launch to boost the coin's value and community excitement.

Is it unethical to be relevant, do everything possible to protect the investments of your community, to seriously consider what your investors are asking you to do even if these suggestions are outside of the hiro team's personal comfort zone? I don't think so, but Joeri and his mates banish all suggestions that fall outside of their original line of thinking, no matter how ineffective their causes may be toward the coin's value and market interest.

I think the hiro team is a group of some of the nicest people in crypto, really I do. But it's as if they started an advertising company before the internet age, and everyone is telling them to now advertise online, yet they refuse and only stick to paper fliers and billboards because that's what they told their original clients they would do. Hiro team - crypto has grown up and evolved around you. Staying true to the original plan feels like you guys are just being stubborn and prideful.

At the start, when your community complained about the coin's performance, Joeri would remind us how young the coin was and how the coin needed time. Time has come and gone.

Then people started offering ways to bring greater value to the coin by reducing the coin count or moving up the block halving. Joeri responded by telling us we were unethical for suggesting changes to the original specification and proceeded to spend weeks on a logo design contest instead.

Investors thought things were bad when the coin was at 1k sat, then at 800 sat, and now you're often under 200 sat. When people ask if the coin is dead, your response is that the coin is very much alive, then provide us with a progress report containing items you're working on that make little to no impression on your community and certainly not much to the market at large.

Then you tell us not to worry because you're working on important security features. As another community member pointed out in an earlier post - who needs security when fewer and fewer people are interested in hirocoin? I wonder, is that really the right thing to worry about right now? Some of us have doubts that greater security alone will bring interest to this coin.

Further, you remind us how being an X11 coin will have people flock to Hiro as the weather warms this summer. This is old old old news and has been for quite some time. There are a countless number of X11 coins on the market that are faring much better than hiro, are much more responsive to the needs and wants of the community without calling us unethical for suggesting ways to improve the coin, and I believe *those* are the coins miners will flock to this summer. Why? Because those are actually profitable coins to mine, and people feel these coins have greater potential for even more profit going forward.

So where does this leave us? It's tough to be critical of the guys behind hiro because they are kind, patient, and willing to take the hits like the gentlemen they are. But guys, I think you can be both nice and strategic at the same time. Being strategic can include things like being transparent, releasing newsletters, beefing up security standards, starting a multipool (Omar, you seem like a straight up, smart dude, btw), but strategy also means looking around and constantly evaluating what is working, what is not, listening to the community (there are some smart people in the hiro community - it would behoove you to consider their 'radical/unethical' ideas), and making adjustments to the coin quickly and ahead of the curve. You may have a few people call foul for changing any original intent, but guess what? Successful businesses change their parameters all the time if it means it will help the product, the investors, and ultimately bringing innovation to the market. Hirocoin feels like it's stuck in the stone age.

Joeri has labeled people like me unethical and impatient in the past. Do you guys still think I am those things now? I believe Hiro has potential - lots of coins do - but you guys need to accept that some radical changes must be made to the coin if you're going to swim with the sharks and win. We want you to win. We're telling you that your current ways are hindering your own success. Please for the love of God, listen to what your community is telling you rather than banish us cuz you don't like what we have to say and because it's not aligned with your 'strategy.' Many of us feel your strategy is off the mark, and you may be working hard on the wrong things.

Thank you!
What's unethical about it if everyone would be happy(IMO) that their coins is worth more?. That doesn't make sense.

Does it ethical to mine and dump coin by multipools and eventually kill it?
Does it ethical that someone tries to harm you and you do nothing cuz it's unethical?.

What's wrong about puting value to existing coins ?

At least reduce the block reward to 50 to sustain the price at this level.

[tuvokcoin]

Hello to all.I have been lurking for a very long time in  BCT, and this is the first time I'm posting therefore don't criticize me.


I have a suggestion.Why not reduce the total number of coins from 672m to ~100m or less(The coins will be 6 time rarer and the price will rise accordingly (IMO).I think the existing investors would appreciate it) and especially number of coins per block from 400 to 100 or less (the price can't sustain 576000 coins per day with such a low volume as ours  cause it's became one of the most profitable coins to "mine and dump" by multipools.Marketcap for this coin didn't fell in the past month, what’s more, it rose a little ).Then why the price fell more than 250% and continue to fall?. Soon enough it will be less then 100 sat


It's a great coin with excellent developer team and great community.
It would be a shame that this great coin dies but shitcoins continue to live.We all know that the price is a main driving force of any coin.
I want to know what the developer team and especially the community thinks about this, maybe make a poll or something.
I hope I put up my thoughts correctly because English is not my first or second language

Just my 2 hiros  
Thank you

Your English is good!

This is an example of an alteration to the coin's original specifications that would help the value quite a bit, but the hiro team has refused to consider it when others have brought it up in the past. They say it's 'unethical' to change the original specs of the coin. Seems like they'd rather see Hiro go to 1 satoshi than to do what you and others have suggested or anything else that would dramatically help the coin and spark new life into it. Hiro is helping Darkcoin right now, which is very generous, but while helping out that coin, Hiro should look at the changes Darkcoin made to their coin specifications *after* launch to boost the coin's value and community excitement.

Is it unethical to be relevant, do everything possible to protect the investments of your community, to seriously consider what your investors are asking you to do even if these suggestions are outside of the hiro team's personal comfort zone? I don't think so, but Joeri and his mates banish all suggestions that fall outside of their original line of thinking, no matter how ineffective their causes may be toward the coin's value and market interest.

I think the hiro team is a group of some of the nicest people in crypto, really I do. But it's as if they started an advertising company before the internet age, and everyone is telling them to now advertise online, yet they refuse and only stick to paper fliers and billboards because that's what they told their original clients they would do. Hiro team - crypto has grown up and evolved around you. Staying true to the original plan feels like you guys are just being stubborn and prideful.

At the start, when your community complained about the coin's performance, Joeri would remind us how young the coin was and how the coin needed time. Time has come and gone.

Then people started offering ways to bring greater value to the coin by reducing the coin count or moving up the block halving. Joeri responded by telling us we were unethical for suggesting changes to the original specification and proceeded to spend weeks on a logo design contest instead.

Investors thought things were bad when the coin was at 1k sat, then at 800 sat, and now you're often under 200 sat. When people ask if the coin is dead, your response is that the coin is very much alive, then provide us with a progress report containing items you're working on that make little to no impression on your community and certainly not much to the market at large.

Then you tell us not to worry because you're working on important security features. As another community member pointed out in an earlier post - who needs security when fewer and fewer people are interested in hirocoin? I wonder, is that really the right thing to worry about right now? Some of us have doubts that greater security alone will bring interest to this coin.

Further, you remind us how being an X11 coin will have people flock to Hiro as the weather warms this summer. This is old old old news and has been for quite some time. There are a countless number of X11 coins on the market that are faring much better than hiro, are much more responsive to the needs and wants of the community without calling us unethical for suggesting ways to improve the coin, and I believe *those* are the coins miners will flock to this summer. Why? Because those are actually profitable coins to mine, and people feel these coins have greater potential for even more profit going forward.

So where does this leave us? It's tough to be critical of the guys behind hiro because they are kind, patient, and willing to take the hits like the gentlemen they are. But guys, I think you can be both nice and strategic at the same time. Being strategic can include things like being transparent, releasing newsletters, beefing up security standards, starting a multipool (Omar, you seem like a straight up, smart dude, btw), but strategy also means looking around and constantly evaluating what is working, what is not, listening to the community (there are some smart people in the hiro community - it would behoove you to consider their 'radical/unethical' ideas), and making adjustments to the coin quickly and ahead of the curve. You may have a few people call foul for changing any original intent, but guess what? Successful businesses change their parameters all the time if it means it will help the product, the investors, and ultimately bringing innovation to the market. Hirocoin feels like it's stuck in the stone age.

Joeri has labeled people like me unethical and impatient in the past. Do you guys still think I am those things now? I believe Hiro has potential - lots of coins do - but you guys need to accept that some radical changes must be made to the coin if you're going to swim with the sharks and win. We want you to win. We're telling you that your current ways are hindering your own success. Please for the love of God, listen to what your community is telling you rather than banish us cuz you don't like what we have to say and because it's not aligned with your 'strategy.' Many of us feel your strategy is off the mark, and you may be working hard on the wrong things.

Other than Dark, what are the countless numbers of X11 coins with POW that are faring much better than Hiro? Anybody?

[Soul_eater_123]

Is there anything interesting in Hiro or is it dead ? Any future plans for Hiro

Plenty of future plans for Hirocoin. Take a look over the last page to see what has been going on. We very recently launched a unique feature for Hirocoin not seen in another coin :p We have the ability to import private keys from QR codes within the client software itself. We would not develop such a thing if we were not aiming for the moon We are here to catch the flood of people leaving Scrypt coins looking for somewhere good to move their funds to. There will be an exodus and for those paying attention we have proved ourselves.

Right now I am helping Evan Duffield on Darkcoin. We are putting in a solution to secure the blockchain against attacks. It is only going to be a matter of time before X11 coins get the sort of attacks that are common on Scrypt. Hirocoin is secure and we are making sure that Darkcoin is also going to be secure.

Once I have finished working on Darkcoin I will be back and plan to implement a in client block explorer. Sounds like a sensible thing to have.

Good news is that Bitcoin seems to be on the rise at the minute, this is good news for everyone.

Yes help by working on Darkcoin which is doing fine and has plenty of people to work on it.  Hiro is "safe" but what use is that when it's price is tanking.  A day is an eternity in crypto.  By the time you get back to Hiro it will be too late.  It won't be long until Bittrex delist HIRO and then it truly is dead.

It's as if we tell the Hiro team that it's raining outside, and they respond by describing the color of their sweaters. Whether or not it's intentional, the point gets completely lost in a sea of kindness and assurances. Don't get me wrong - much nicer than if the team came back at us with profanity and rudeness, but their responses are often ineffective with regards to the coin's value, real or perceived by the market. I do not look to the Hiro team and blame them entirely for the price of the coin - this has many many factors. I do, however, look to the team for staying relevant within the world of crypto, but dare anyone suggest they change their original and very archaic plans for the coin, we are labeled unethical and here to do harm only. And now I read that Hiro is off helping Darkcoin? Like the other community members pointed out, shouldn't it be the other way around? Dark is doing something very very right, and it is reflected in the coin's value, the enthusiasm of the Dark community, and the market's perception of the coin. Every time I check in on this thread to see what the team is up to, I notice that the mere fact that Hiro was the #2 X11 coin after dark is supposed to be held in some high esteem for an indefinite amount of time. There is a truckload of asic-resistant coins out there promising a reduction in electricity costs. Can we finally put this 'value-add' to bed for Hirocoin? If you're still touting X11 as a compelling feature, that immediately tells everyone you've lost touch with reality. You can label me whatever you want, you can call me a Fudster or useless or you can call me Al (Paul Simon reference - come on, who's with me?), but the bottom line is that sticking with your original plan, no matter how much integrity it takes to do that, is continuing to look like a worse idea with each passing day.

So I raise a glass to you, The Hiro Team. Always so positive and kind, may your integrity and good intentions rise above the current landscape. May you also widen your blinders a bit and adjust your plans in order to give this coin a true chance at mooning one day. Remember, plans made in the absence of reality can be great, but they are by nature, uninformed. You now have more information. There is no shame in doing everything possible to improve the coin in such a way to bring value and excitement to those who believed in you from Day 1. We hope you won't let pride get in the way of making the very important changes needed to give this coin some much needed life.

Spot on.  Instead of saving they're own dying coin they're off helping the coin which is replacing Litecoin and is their own biggest competition.  Why would anyone invest in Hirocoin now?

[Soul_eater_123]

My sweater is striped and the best time to wear it is all the time. One with a turtle neck, that's the kind.

Seriously though this coin will speak for itself in not too long :SS

Hierophant Hiro Coin Hi

Really how?  By being delisted on Bittrex and made into a LTC only market on other exchanges?  Even the X11 shit clones usually have some differentiating factors (smaller block sizes/rewards, low coin supply, POS etc) - Hiro has nothing.  It is just a worthless Darkcoin clone without anonymity or developers in touch with reality.

[Soul_eater_123]

I made this a while back. It's simple but it would work well make the web site look a little slicker...

Hi-res version here: http://burningpixel.com/Transfer/HC/HC_L2_07.png

That's great but I meant a completely different logo.  The funny H just isn't inspiring or interesting (which the Godzilla thing was).

[ocminer]

Suprnova Pool here:

https://hiro.suprnova.cc

Currently no fee with Vdiff + Stratum
Idle Worker Notifs, DDoS protected/Load balanced and all the goodies you need.

Get your Hiro's and don't forget to withdraw them !!


We are safe against all sorts of fake share attacks!

still mining )

[equalizer]

Hello to all.I have been lurking for a very long time in  BCT, and this is the first time I'm posting therefore don't criticize me.


I have a suggestion.Why not reduce the total number of coins from 672m to ~100m or less(The coins will be 6 time rarer and the price will rise accordingly (IMO).I think the existing investors would appreciate it) and especially number of coins per block from 400 to 100 or less (the price can't sustain 576000 coins per day with such a low volume as ours  cause it's became one of the most profitable coins to "mine and dump" by multipools.Marketcap for this coin didn't fell in the past month, what’s more, it rose a little ).Then why the price fell more than 250% and continue to fall?. Soon enough it will be less then 100 sat


It's a great coin with excellent developer team and great community.
It would be a shame that this great coin dies but shitcoins continue to live.We all know that the price is a main driving force of any coin.
I want to know what the developer team and especially the community thinks about this, maybe make a poll or something.
I hope I put up my thoughts correctly because English is not my first or second language

Just my 2 hiros  
Thank you

Your English is good!

This is an example of an alteration to the coin's original specifications that would help the value quite a bit, but the hiro team has refused to consider it when others have brought it up in the past. They say it's 'unethical' to change the original specs of the coin. Seems like they'd rather see Hiro go to 1 satoshi than to do what you and others have suggested or anything else that would dramatically help the coin and spark new life into it. Hiro is helping Darkcoin right now, which is very generous, but while helping out that coin, Hiro should look at the changes Darkcoin made to their coin specifications *after* launch to boost the coin's value and community excitement.

Is it unethical to be relevant, do everything possible to protect the investments of your community, to seriously consider what your investors are asking you to do even if these suggestions are outside of the hiro team's personal comfort zone? I don't think so, but Joeri and his mates banish all suggestions that fall outside of their original line of thinking, no matter how ineffective their causes may be toward the coin's value and market interest.

I think the hiro team is a group of some of the nicest people in crypto, really I do. But it's as if they started an advertising company before the internet age, and everyone is telling them to now advertise online, yet they refuse and only stick to paper fliers and billboards because that's what they told their original clients they would do. Hiro team - crypto has grown up and evolved around you. Staying true to the original plan feels like you guys are just being stubborn and prideful.

At the start, when your community complained about the coin's performance, Joeri would remind us how young the coin was and how the coin needed time. Time has come and gone.

Then people started offering ways to bring greater value to the coin by reducing the coin count or moving up the block halving. Joeri responded by telling us we were unethical for suggesting changes to the original specification and proceeded to spend weeks on a logo design contest instead.

Investors thought things were bad when the coin was at 1k sat, then at 800 sat, and now you're often under 200 sat. When people ask if the coin is dead, your response is that the coin is very much alive, then provide us with a progress report containing items you're working on that make little to no impression on your community and certainly not much to the market at large.

Then you tell us not to worry because you're working on important security features. As another community member pointed out in an earlier post - who needs security when fewer and fewer people are interested in hirocoin? I wonder, is that really the right thing to worry about right now? Some of us have doubts that greater security alone will bring interest to this coin.

Further, you remind us how being an X11 coin will have people flock to Hiro as the weather warms this summer. This is old old old news and has been for quite some time. There are a countless number of X11 coins on the market that are faring much better than hiro, are much more responsive to the needs and wants of the community without calling us unethical for suggesting ways to improve the coin, and I believe *those* are the coins miners will flock to this summer. Why? Because those are actually profitable coins to mine, and people feel these coins have greater potential for even more profit going forward.

So where does this leave us? It's tough to be critical of the guys behind hiro because they are kind, patient, and willing to take the hits like the gentlemen they are. But guys, I think you can be both nice and strategic at the same time. Being strategic can include things like being transparent, releasing newsletters, beefing up security standards, starting a multipool (Omar, you seem like a straight up, smart dude, btw), but strategy also means looking around and constantly evaluating what is working, what is not, listening to the community (there are some smart people in the hiro community - it would behoove you to consider their 'radical/unethical' ideas), and making adjustments to the coin quickly and ahead of the curve. You may have a few people call foul for changing any original intent, but guess what? Successful businesses change their parameters all the time if it means it will help the product, the investors, and ultimately bringing innovation to the market. Hirocoin feels like it's stuck in the stone age.

Joeri has labeled people like me unethical and impatient in the past. Do you guys still think I am those things now? I believe Hiro has potential - lots of coins do - but you guys need to accept that some radical changes must be made to the coin if you're going to swim with the sharks and win. We want you to win. We're telling you that your current ways are hindering your own success. Please for the love of God, listen to what your community is telling you rather than banish us cuz you don't like what we have to say and because it's not aligned with your 'strategy.' Many of us feel your strategy is off the mark, and you may be working hard on the wrong things.

Other than Dark, what are the countless numbers of X11 coins with POW that are faring much better than Hiro? Anybody?

If you have to ask, you're not watching the market as closely as we are. And your question is a trap too - no matter what coin I say, you'll counter with some reason why it's different. The point is that there are many X11 coins to choose from (whether or not you agree with me as to each of their health and performance), so Hiro claiming that their X11 algo makes them somehow unique or desirable no longer scales. Look - I was into hiro from the beginning and the truth is I can't sell my investments at this price or any price it has been for the past 2 months. You can come at me and challenge what I write, but you're barking up the wrong tree. All I'm trying to encourage is that the coin team widen their blinders, think beyond their original plan, be open to changes they once thought they didn't need but perhaps now they should reconsider, and be agile and innovative with the pace of the crypto world. I don't think this is an unfair request by Hirocoin investors. And none of this is an attack on the team - they are obviously great guys. This is simply a request, and clearly not only by me from the looks of it. Can we not fight with one another, argue about who's right and who's wrong, and just agree that we would ALL like Hiro to do really really really well?

[Soul_eater_123]

Hello to all.I have been lurking for a very long time in  BCT, and this is the first time I'm posting therefore don't criticize me.


I have a suggestion.Why not reduce the total number of coins from 672m to ~100m or less(The coins will be 6 time rarer and the price will rise accordingly (IMO).I think the existing investors would appreciate it) and especially number of coins per block from 400 to 100 or less (the price can't sustain 576000 coins per day with such a low volume as ours  cause it's became one of the most profitable coins to "mine and dump" by multipools.Marketcap for this coin didn't fell in the past month, what’s more, it rose a little ).Then why the price fell more than 250% and continue to fall?. Soon enough it will be less then 100 sat


It's a great coin with excellent developer team and great community.
It would be a shame that this great coin dies but shitcoins continue to live.We all know that the price is a main driving force of any coin.
I want to know what the developer team and especially the community thinks about this, maybe make a poll or something.
I hope I put up my thoughts correctly because English is not my first or second language

Just my 2 hiros  
Thank you

Your English is good!

This is an example of an alteration to the coin's original specifications that would help the value quite a bit, but the hiro team has refused to consider it when others have brought it up in the past. They say it's 'unethical' to change the original specs of the coin. Seems like they'd rather see Hiro go to 1 satoshi than to do what you and others have suggested or anything else that would dramatically help the coin and spark new life into it. Hiro is helping Darkcoin right now, which is very generous, but while helping out that coin, Hiro should look at the changes Darkcoin made to their coin specifications *after* launch to boost the coin's value and community excitement.

Is it unethical to be relevant, do everything possible to protect the investments of your community, to seriously consider what your investors are asking you to do even if these suggestions are outside of the hiro team's personal comfort zone? I don't think so, but Joeri and his mates banish all suggestions that fall outside of their original line of thinking, no matter how ineffective their causes may be toward the coin's value and market interest.

I think the hiro team is a group of some of the nicest people in crypto, really I do. But it's as if they started an advertising company before the internet age, and everyone is telling them to now advertise online, yet they refuse and only stick to paper fliers and billboards because that's what they told their original clients they would do. Hiro team - crypto has grown up and evolved around you. Staying true to the original plan feels like you guys are just being stubborn and prideful.

At the start, when your community complained about the coin's performance, Joeri would remind us how young the coin was and how the coin needed time. Time has come and gone.

Then people started offering ways to bring greater value to the coin by reducing the coin count or moving up the block halving. Joeri responded by telling us we were unethical for suggesting changes to the original specification and proceeded to spend weeks on a logo design contest instead.

Investors thought things were bad when the coin was at 1k sat, then at 800 sat, and now you're often under 200 sat. When people ask if the coin is dead, your response is that the coin is very much alive, then provide us with a progress report containing items you're working on that make little to no impression on your community and certainly not much to the market at large.

Then you tell us not to worry because you're working on important security features. As another community member pointed out in an earlier post - who needs security when fewer and fewer people are interested in hirocoin? I wonder, is that really the right thing to worry about right now? Some of us have doubts that greater security alone will bring interest to this coin.

Further, you remind us how being an X11 coin will have people flock to Hiro as the weather warms this summer. This is old old old news and has been for quite some time. There are a countless number of X11 coins on the market that are faring much better than hiro, are much more responsive to the needs and wants of the community without calling us unethical for suggesting ways to improve the coin, and I believe *those* are the coins miners will flock to this summer. Why? Because those are actually profitable coins to mine, and people feel these coins have greater potential for even more profit going forward.

So where does this leave us? It's tough to be critical of the guys behind hiro because they are kind, patient, and willing to take the hits like the gentlemen they are. But guys, I think you can be both nice and strategic at the same time. Being strategic can include things like being transparent, releasing newsletters, beefing up security standards, starting a multipool (Omar, you seem like a straight up, smart dude, btw), but strategy also means looking around and constantly evaluating what is working, what is not, listening to the community (there are some smart people in the hiro community - it would behoove you to consider their 'radical/unethical' ideas), and making adjustments to the coin quickly and ahead of the curve. You may have a few people call foul for changing any original intent, but guess what? Successful businesses change their parameters all the time if it means it will help the product, the investors, and ultimately bringing innovation to the market. Hirocoin feels like it's stuck in the stone age.

Joeri has labeled people like me unethical and impatient in the past. Do you guys still think I am those things now? I believe Hiro has potential - lots of coins do - but you guys need to accept that some radical changes must be made to the coin if you're going to swim with the sharks and win. We want you to win. We're telling you that your current ways are hindering your own success. Please for the love of God, listen to what your community is telling you rather than banish us cuz you don't like what we have to say and because it's not aligned with your 'strategy.' Many of us feel your strategy is off the mark, and you may be working hard on the wrong things.

Very well argued.  Let's hope they listen.

[Soul_eater_123]

So it seems someone has deleted/removed my post from the Reddit page.  Unbelievable.

[Joerii]

Joeri has labeled people like me unethical and impatient in the past. Do you guys still think I am those things now?

Hey dude.

I never labeled YOU as unethical. But my standpoint remains ; changing a coins inflation model is highly unethical and i'll never trust or work with a crypto dev who does this. It's a very slippery slope, and I won't stand for it.

There's a difference between calling a person unethical and calling an idea or behaviour unethical. Who am I to judge you ? I don't judge you, just your suggestion

[Soul_eater_123]

Joeri has labeled people like me unethical and impatient in the past. Do you guys still think I am those things now?

Hey dude.

I never labeled YOU as unethical. But my standpoint remains ; changing a coins inflation model is highly unethical and i'll never trust or work with a crypto dev who does this. It's a very slippery slope, and I won't stand for it.

There's a difference between calling a person unethical and calling an idea or behaviour unethical. Who am I to judge you ? I don't judge you, just your suggestion

What happened to my post on Reddit?

[rubenaco]

hello people,my friend gives me 10000 hiros. I think that there are a lot of x11 coins... Now, I'm going to read the threat and thinks about hiro future... seing coinmarketcap....