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August 19, 2019, 03:39:31 PM
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Can investors decide for themselves? Well, according to the analogy of the shareholders ' meeting...Was it practiced in the cryptosphere? Or does it all depend on the team?

What exact do you mean, when you are asking if investor can decide for themselves? 2nd question is interesting for me too.

The above was a conversation
By the way, why you've decided to conduct STO instead of ICO? Moreover, I remember that there were several projects, that offered security tokens without vote rights, why you've decided to offer tokens with vote right?
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My question about investors related to this. I'm interested..Was there such practice in other projects?


Well, in that my post I've told that I remembered several STO projects, that had conducted their sales in 2018. So, yes, this practice was in used before.
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August 19, 2019, 03:42:09 PM
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Shareholders meeting is use in ordinary business, when many investor are very reach people, so they can fly to this meeting from anywhere. Talking about crypto, we know, that it is not so rare, when shareholder is not a reach person. That's why I think that all meetings will be online.

I think, that there won't be meeting at all. I think, that the question will be placed for voting on AdSana's app, and all shareholders will have a posibility to vote one time.
In many cases, a shareholders ' meeting with real people is just a tribute to tradition. Vote counting and decision-making can be done electronically.
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August 19, 2019, 03:59:55 PM
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Shareholders meeting is use in ordinary business, when many investor are very reach people, so they can fly to this meeting from anywhere. Talking about crypto, we know, that it is not so rare, when shareholder is not a reach person. That's why I think that all meetings will be online.

I think, that there won't be meeting at all. I think, that the question will be placed for voting on AdSana's app, and all shareholders will have a posibility to vote one time.
In many cases, a shareholders ' meeting with real people is just a tribute to tradition. Vote counting and decision-making can be done electronically.

Don't you think that electronical voting can be hacked, and votes can be used to pursue the goals of some people?

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August 19, 2019, 04:20:20 PM
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Shareholders meeting is use in ordinary business, when many investor are very reach people, so they can fly to this meeting from anywhere. Talking about crypto, we know, that it is not so rare, when shareholder is not a reach person. That's why I think that all meetings will be online.

I think, that there won't be meeting at all. I think, that the question will be placed for voting on AdSana's app, and all shareholders will have a posibility to vote one time.
In many cases, a shareholders ' meeting with real people is just a tribute to tradition. Vote counting and decision-making can be done electronically.

Don't you think that electronical voting can be hacked, and votes can be used to pursue the goals of some people?

I think it can be a time for blockchain usage. No doubt, that this technology can solve such problem as hacking.

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August 19, 2019, 04:23:00 PM
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By the way, why there is so strict laws for US residents in USA? Maybe, US investors would be more interested if your project's registration was in another county?

HI Lora, the laws have been that way for awhile.  They said it is to protect the Investor.  But being limited in the US to just Accredited Investors is very limiting.  Here is the definition of an accredited investor in the US.

To be an accredited investor, a person must have an annual income exceeding $200,000, or $300,000 for joint income. A person is also considered an accredited investor if he has a net worth exceeding $1 million, either individually or jointly with his spouse. An entity is an accredited investor if it is a private business development company or an organization with assets exceeding $5 million.

The Reg D only allows for 34 unaccredited investors. A regulations S for International investors does not have those high restrictions which is why I am trying to raise this money via International Investors.
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August 19, 2019, 04:43:21 PM
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By the way, why there is so strict laws for US residents in USA? Maybe, US investors would be more interested if your project's registration was in another county?

HI Lora, the laws have been that way for awhile.  They said it is to protect the Investor.  But being limited in the US to just Accredited Investors is very limiting.  Here is the definition of an accredited investor in the US.

To be an accredited investor, a person must have an annual income exceeding $200,000, or $300,000 for joint income. A person is also considered an accredited investor if he has a net worth exceeding $1 million, either individually or jointly with his spouse. An entity is an accredited investor if it is a private business development company or an organization with assets exceeding $5 million.

The Reg D only allows for 34 unaccredited investors. A regulations S for International investors does not have those high restrictions which is why I am trying to raise this money via International Investors.

Do I understand right, that only 34 investors who are not residents of US can invest in the project under US registration?

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August 19, 2019, 04:45:10 PM
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Well, I'm sure they will. With core investors for sure. Talking about the community, I think they should do same, because there are many people in the community who are scared of investing right now.

We will share quarterly reports with the investors and make them available for the general public to read.  But as for helping people invest.  There will not be a STO to invest in once we have raised the money and start building the clinics.  The only way then would be to buy on a secondary market exchange at what ever the price is then.  Which I believe will be much higher than the now $0.10 USD.  The best part of investing in a STO, just like a ICO, IEO or even in the going public with a IPO, is the change to get into an investment at the ground floor.

All of you have to stop comparing our company and what we are going to do with phase one, our Canine Cancer Centers in the US, is that we are not a typical Blockchain company that has only a MVP and are trying to raise money to hopefully create an app or company that is unique and needed. Because we are NOT THEM.  We are NOT another Blockchain company creating another software app that is like 10 others already being used.  How many more VIOP or messaging or text softwares does a world need.

We have something that has been killing cancer in people since 2009.  We have connections to several millions of dogs owners in the US due to the strong connections I, Gary Nice, have created since 2006 thru the National Canine Cancer Foundation.  Our price of our token will NOT go from the $0.10 USD to $0.000010 USD like other ICO tokens have.  Yes maybe there will dip once all the bounties that have tokens immediately sell their tokens after holding on to them for 90 day.  But if we use all the tokens allocated for bounties that is only 3% so it will not effect it that must.  But once our clinics are open and dogs are being cured and the media is talking about it, all those people who held onto their tokens will be very very happy.

So invest now.  You will never be able to invest into Adsana for the low token price you can now.!!!  You will have to pay a lot more.
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August 19, 2019, 05:07:33 PM
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Well, I'm sure they will. With core investors for sure. Talking about the community, I think they should do same, because there are many people in the community who are scared of investing right now.

We will share quarterly reports with the investors and make them available for the general public to read.  But as for helping people invest.  There will not be a STO to invest in once we have raised the money and start building the clinics.  The only way then would be to buy on a secondary market exchange at what ever the price is then.  Which I believe will be much higher than the now $0.10 USD.  The best part of investing in a STO, just like a ICO, IEO or even in the going public with a IPO, is the change to get into an investment at the ground floor.

All of you have to stop comparing our company and what we are going to do with phase one, our Canine Cancer Centers in the US, is that we are not a typical Blockchain company that has only a MVP and are trying to raise money to hopefully create an app or company that is unique and needed. Because we are NOT THEM.  We are NOT another Blockchain company creating another software app that is like 10 others already being used.  How many more VIOP or messaging or text softwares does a world need.

We have something that has been killing cancer in people since 2009.  We have connections to several millions of dogs owners in the US due to the strong connections I, Gary Nice, have created since 2006 thru the National Canine Cancer Foundation.  Our price of our token will NOT go from the $0.10 USD to $0.000010 USD like other ICO tokens have.  Yes maybe there will dip once all the bounties that have tokens immediately sell their tokens after holding on to them for 90 day.  But if we use all the tokens allocated for bounties that is only 3% so it will not effect it that must.  But once our clinics are open and dogs are being cured and the media is talking about it, all those people who held onto their tokens will be very very happy.

So invest now.  You will never be able to invest into Adsana for the low token price you can now.!!!  You will have to pay a lot more.

It is very profitable to invest in a project at the very beginning of it's' way, but it also the most dangerous investments. Talking about AdSana, I'm sure, that angel investing is not dangerous at all.

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August 19, 2019, 05:13:48 PM
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Do I understand right, that only 34 investors who are not residents of US can invest in the project under US registration?

NO!!! you did not read that correctly.  IN the US under Regulations D exemption, we can only accept 34 non accredited investors IN THE US under Reg D.   THIS IS FOR US INVESTORS.    International investors invest under REGULATION S.  Under REGULATION S there are NO restrictions requiring a investor to be an accredited investor.

News are awesome. If they will do it in a month, I think that there is enough time to invest while price is so low.

As for me, I don't understand why there is no investors so far. This is the greatest project of this year for sure with professional team and workable product.

Nor do I.  I have been told I needed more well know names in the ICO world to be advisors.  So what I understand about this is if I put names of well know people as advisors who most now require payment, people will invest in a project because I have paid a well know advisor to be on the project.

Never mind that the people working or advising AdSana now are experts in their fields.  I guess that does not matter.

Gary

It is very profitable to invest in a project at the very beginning of it's' way, but it also the most dangerous investments. Talking about AdSana, I'm sure, that angel investing is not dangerous at all.

Most Angel investors put up $100,000 or more.  So they are risking a lot more. 
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Most Angel investors put up $100,000 or more.  So they are risking a lot more.

For professional Angel investors, it is their way of earning money, and they are very good in project analysis. But, there is no so many specialists in this field here on this forum. That's the problem. These investors need something more to trust you. That is why it is so important for you to visit events and give people here a photo/video report from there. For now, they are talking for a person who says that he is Gary, and he works with Dr.Tsang. In fact, there is no fact or proves, that it is true, and people here do not believe in words since 2018. Give people proves that you are real person, that Dr. Tsang is really working with you, that your approach is really exist and than you can rely on investments.

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August 19, 2019, 05:57:43 PM
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Well, I'm sure they will. With core investors for sure. Talking about the community, I think they should do same, because there are many people in the community who are scared of investing right now.

We will share quarterly reports with the investors and make them available for the general public to read.  But as for helping people invest.  There will not be a STO to invest in once we have raised the money and start building the clinics.  The only way then would be to buy on a secondary market exchange at what ever the price is then.  Which I believe will be much higher than the now $0.10 USD.  The best part of investing in a STO, just like a ICO, IEO or even in the going public with a IPO, is the change to get into an investment at the ground floor.

All of you have to stop comparing our company and what we are going to do with phase one, our Canine Cancer Centers in the US, is that we are not a typical Blockchain company that has only a MVP and are trying to raise money to hopefully create an app or company that is unique and needed. Because we are NOT THEM.  We are NOT another Blockchain company creating another software app that is like 10 others already being used.  How many more VIOP or messaging or text softwares does a world need.

We have something that has been killing cancer in people since 2009.  We have connections to several millions of dogs owners in the US due to the strong connections I, Gary Nice, have created since 2006 thru the National Canine Cancer Foundation.  Our price of our token will NOT go from the $0.10 USD to $0.000010 USD like other ICO tokens have.  Yes maybe there will dip once all the bounties that have tokens immediately sell their tokens after holding on to them for 90 day.  But if we use all the tokens allocated for bounties that is only 3% so it will not effect it that must.  But once our clinics are open and dogs are being cured and the media is talking about it, all those people who held onto their tokens will be very very happy.

So invest now.  You will never be able to invest into Adsana for the low token price you can now.!!!  You will have to pay a lot more.
very good decision, investors must know all situation with project

I'm sure that it is the only correct decision in this situation. All investors have a right to know what is going on with the project. This is STO, but not ICO.

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For professional Angel investors, it is their way of earning money, and they are very good in project analysis. But, there is no so many specialists in this field here on this forum. That's the problem. These investors need something more to trust you. That is why it is so important for you to visit events and give people here a photo/video report from there. For now, they are talking for a person who says that he is Gary, and he works with Dr.Tsang. In fact, there is no fact or proves, that it is true, and people here do not believe in words since 2018. Give people proves that you are real person, that Dr. Tsang is really working with you, that your approach is really exist and than you can rely on investments.

Fair enough.  So Dr. Tsang is in the US right now.  I will have him come over and we will video an interview together.

I will have him over to my town on Sunday night and we will video an interview between the two of us.

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August 19, 2019, 06:19:34 PM
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Do I understand right, that only 34 investors who are not residents of US can invest in the project under US registration?

NO!!! you did not read that correctly.  IN the US under Regulations D exemption, we can only accept 34 non accredited investors IN THE US under Reg D.   THIS IS FOR US INVESTORS.    International investors invest under REGULATION S.  Under REGULATION S there are NO restrictions requiring a investor to be an accredited investor.

News are awesome. If they will do it in a month, I think that there is enough time to invest while price is so low.

As for me, I don't understand why there is no investors so far. This is the greatest project of this year for sure with professional team and workable product.

Nor do I.  I have been told I needed more well know names in the ICO world to be advisors.  So what I understand about this is if I put names of well know people as advisors who most now require payment, people will invest in a project because I have paid a well know advisor to be on the project.

Never mind that the people working or advising AdSana now are experts in their fields.  I guess that does not matter.

Gary

It is very profitable to invest in a project at the very beginning of it's' way, but it also the most dangerous investments. Talking about AdSana, I'm sure, that angel investing is not dangerous at all.

Most Angel investors put up $100,000 or more.  So they are risking a lot more. 

Sorry, I misunderstood you. So, as far as I understand, you are not interesting in US investors form this forum, because I don't think that they will invest much, but the slot will be used.

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August 19, 2019, 06:37:59 PM
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By the way, why there is so strict laws for US residents in USA? Maybe, US investors would be more interested if your project's registration was in another county?

HI Lora, the laws have been that way for awhile.  They said it is to protect the Investor.  But being limited in the US to just Accredited Investors is very limiting.  Here is the definition of an accredited investor in the US.

To be an accredited investor, a person must have an annual income exceeding $200,000, or $300,000 for joint income. A person is also considered an accredited investor if he has a net worth exceeding $1 million, either individually or jointly with his spouse. An entity is an accredited investor if it is a private business development company or an organization with assets exceeding $5 million.

The Reg D only allows for 34 unaccredited investors. A regulations S for International investors does not have those high restrictions which is why I am trying to raise this money via International Investors.

Every project tries to raise funds via international investors. They usually don't allow both US and China residents to participate in their sales.

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August 19, 2019, 06:50:36 PM
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Every project tries to raise funds via international investors. They usually don't allow both US and China residents to participate in their sales.

So, as far as I understand, you are not interesting in US investors form this forum, because I don't think that they will invest much, but the slot will be used.

We are planning on taking both Chinese investors and US investors and from many other countries.  And we never really expected to get investors from the US from the Bitcointalk forum.  But if we do they must be an accredited investors.  OR.... we can take 35 non-accredited investor FROM THE US.

Here is the SEC says about taking non-accredited investors from the US.

The company may sell its securities to an unlimited number of "accredited investors" in the U.S. and up to 35 other purchasers in the U.S.. All non-accredited investors, either alone or with a purchaser representative, must be sophisticated—that is, they must have sufficient knowledge and experience in financial and business matters to make them capable of evaluating the merits and risks of the prospective investment.
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August 19, 2019, 07:08:36 PM
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What is your premoney valuation of the company/project?

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August 19, 2019, 07:26:21 PM
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What is your premoney valuation of the company/project?

Hi mtdr, We are considered a Start Up company because we are raising money to open our clinics.  Here is some info from an article on Valuating a Start up.

One of the most frequently asked question about any startup is “how do investors value a startup?”. The unfortunate answer to the question is: it depends. Startup valuation, as frustrating as this may be for anyone looking for a definitive answer, is, in fact, a relative science, and not an exact one. A startup company’s value, as I mentioned earlier, is largely dictated by the market forces in the industry in which it operates. Specifically, the current value is dictated by the market forces in play TODAY and TODAY’S perception of what the future will bring.

So mtdr, we need to look at the industry of treating cancer. And what the perception of what the future will bring.

I can first tell you that worldwide the increase in the number of new cases of cancer in humans is a 16% per year.

For cancer in dogs, there are 89 millions dogs in the US and 85 million dogs in Europe.  With the stats showing that 25% of all dogs will get cancer that is 22.25 million dogs with cancer in the US and 21.25 million dogs with cancer in Europe.  Above that in the US, there will be 6 million new cases of cancer in dogs every year.  So the market shows a large amount of dogs with cancer in the US and Europe.

So what do the industry predict.  Here is a quote from to University of Chicago cancer researchers. Kevin M. Murphy and Robert H. Topel, two University of Chicago researchers, estimate a 1 percent reduction in mortality from cancer has a value to Americans of nearly $500 billion. A cure for cancer worldwide would be worth about $50 trillion.

To me that means that the perception of the future of this industry looks very good.

Gary
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Thank you for the info.
It is not only in startups. In business in general. In private companies.

You are talking to institutional investors if I understood correctly?

By premoney valuation of the company/project I meant this:

If an investor gives you 100k$, what % of the company/business is he getting?

Or, how many tokens will he get from how many tokens in total..
Or later, how many % of the AdSanna marketcap will he get..
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Thank you for the info.
It is not only in startups. In business in general. In private companies.

You are talking to institutional investors if I understood correctly?

We are talking or trying to work with investment funds, Angel Investors and Institutional investors.

By premoney valuation of the company/project I meant this:

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There are 500,000,000 SANA tokens available for distribution.  Each SANA token is attached to a share of Class B Common and Voting stock in Adsana. 

During the Pre Sale, up to 100,000,000 (100M) SANA tokens will be available at a discounted price of $0.10 per SANA token. Pre Sale price will end once $10,000,000 USD’s have been raised.

During the Main STO Sale, up to 250,000,000 (250M) SANA tokens will be available at a fixed price of $0.20 per SANA token.

Any investor who invests over $100,000 USD is considered a” Major Investors. ”They will receive an additional twenty percent (20%) discount to be added to the either the Pre-Sale or Main Sale SANA token price.

You can find that and more on our website at adsana.io or in our White Paper.

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Or, how many tokens will he get from how many tokens in total..

Right now our tokens in the PreSale are selling for $0.10 USD but as it states about if your investor is investing $100,000 or more they will get the SANA tokens right now for $0.08 USD per token.  Additionally I have an incentive offer out to all investments that come in from bitcointalk.  The first 100 investments coming from members of Bitcointalk, they will get a bonus of 20% more tokens.

So a $100,000 USD investment that come thru Bitcointalk members would be, at $.08 USD each, 1,250,000 SANA token plus a 20% bonus which would be 250,000 more token for a total of 1,500,000 SANA tokens.

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Or later, how many % of the AdSanna marketcap will he get..

The investor would not get them later but since they are security token, the investor would get those as soon as the investment of the $100,000 was confirmed.

And the % of the Adsana would be

Also you should note that SANA token holders have voting rights and get to share in the dividends of profits plus we are also selling pre paid treatment credits so people can slowly buy enough treatment credit to use when they need to use them.  They cost for $1.00 USD each and out of every $1.00 sold of pre paid credits, $.10 is distributed to the SANA token holders as a dividend.

Hope that answers everything.

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Thank you for the offer!, reply and info. It sure does.

What is your success rate with the treatment?



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