ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod]

[Indymoney]

This one is pretty much in the bag with Indian batsmen having stepped on the gas a bit for the last 5-6 overs. They are cruising at a comfortable 89 for no loss after 21 overs. Need just 84 runs now at less than 3 rpo. The senior Pakistan team routinely gets booted out at the hands of India in world cups. No surprise that the young padawans are also making a habit out of it..

Its circle of time this is 10th match between these two team and Pakistan is already leading by 5 - 4 today this will be 5 - 5 in first 6 matches Pakistan was leading by 5 - 1 but recently its falls down badly just because of bad management and poor policies as this happen in PCB cricket is also going down like Squash and Hockey so this will carry on if we have some good person in management hopefully this will change again in near future.

[eaLiTy]

I am really surprised to see England struggle against South Africa as they lost 6 wickets for 170 runs and Shamsi bowled a really economic spell and picked up 3 crucial wickets, i was expecting England to dominate the match but South Africa bowled really well and if they could pick up the rest of the wickets and fold them to a low score then South Africa can win the match.

[Indymoney]

I am really surprised to see England struggle against South Africa as they lost 6 wickets for 170 runs and Shamsi bowled a really economic spell and picked up 3 crucial wickets, i was expecting England to dominate the match but South Africa bowled really well and if they could pick up the rest of the wickets and fold them to a low score then South Africa can win the match.

Its still very interesting match as Denly and Woakes both are on crease they already contributed more then 50 runs in 11 overs if these both able to stay on for some more overs then surely England will be able to post more then 250+ which could be fighting score Curren still to come he is also handy in limited overs matches batting is also not as they was in past still many issues and many questions to be replied by them as they will came on batting.

[ene1980]

South Africa bowled really well till the 35th over and then they were not able to contain the England batsman and props to Joe Denly and Chris Woakes who played really well to put up a decent score to defend and South Africa need to build partnership to chase this score as they are struggling to put runs on the board in other formats and hopefully they can give a tough challenge for England and Quinton de Kock have to play a good innings to take the team to safety.

[onrise]

I am really surprised to see England struggle against South Africa as they lost 6 wickets for 170 runs and Shamsi bowled a really economic spell and picked up 3 crucial wickets, i was expecting England to dominate the match but South Africa bowled really well and if they could pick up the rest of the wickets and fold them to a low score then South Africa can win the match.

How things can take a turn when just few days back SA struggled in test match against same team has started well in the match, though Denley and lower order batsman helped England to pass 250+ runs which at one point was just a thought for them. SA started the chase well and are 76/1 in 16 overs.

[Indymoney]

I am really surprised to see England struggle against South Africa as they lost 6 wickets for 170 runs and Shamsi bowled a really economic spell and picked up 3 crucial wickets, i was expecting England to dominate the match but South Africa bowled really well and if they could pick up the rest of the wickets and fold them to a low score then South Africa can win the match.

How things can take a turn when just few days back SA struggled in test match against same team has started well in the match, though Denley and lower order batsman helped England to pass 250+ runs which at one point was just a thought for them. SA started the chase well and are 76/1 in 16 overs.

In cricket you need a good day so today its happen with South Africa they play good and World Champions down like crap its very good to watch as South Africa started on positive note and have good win so now this series is not goind one sided like test series good knock by QDK and good batting from strugging Bavma hopefully they will keep this momentum in next matches.

[Raja_MBZ]

This one is pretty much in the bag with Indian batsmen having stepped on the gas a bit for the last 5-6 overs. They are cruising at a comfortable 89 for no loss after 21 overs. Need just 84 runs now at less than 3 rpo. The senior Pakistan team routinely gets booted out at the hands of India in world cups. No surprise that the young padawans are also making a habit out of it..

Its circle of time this is 10th match between these two team and Pakistan is already leading by 5 - 4 today this will be 5 - 5 in first 6 matches Pakistan was leading by 5 - 1 but recently its falls down badly just because of bad management and poor policies as this happen in PCB cricket is also going down like Squash and Hockey so this will carry on if we have some good person in management hopefully this will change again in near future.

I don't think this "good change" thing is happening any time soon. There's a hell lot of difference in the domestic structure of Indian cricket and Pakistan cricket, and after observing today's match between India and Pakistan, it's clear that Pakistan will not be able to have a good team in upcoming years. Still, PCB's new management and their roadmap are all flawed; it's time to copy/paste the structures of either Australia or England.

[Vishnu.Reang]

Good to see James Neesham back in the New Zealand bowler. He is someone who is capable of bowling economically in the middle overs. In the absence of strike bowlers such as Boult and Ferguson, he will be very useful against the Indian batting lineup. So far the New Zealand bowlers have done well, to restrict India to 62/2 after 13 overs. Onl;y Hamish Bennett looked out of sorts, as he conceded 26 from his 3 overs. The other bowlers have done well, till now (Southee/de Grandhomme/Neesham).

[eaLiTy]

How things can take a turn when just few days back SA struggled in test match against same team has started well in the match, though Denley and lower order batsman helped England to pass 250+ runs which at one point was just a thought for them. SA started the chase well and are 76/1 in 16 overs.

It was a complete change in attitude in the shorter format and they were able to chase the score with the help of inform batsman Quinton de Kock and Bavuma missed his century by 2 runs and as long as the top order scores they are a formidable team in the shorter format.
India is playing really well and KL Rahul and Shreyas Iyer in the crease and India will be looking to post over 300 runs and New Zealand is dropping catches in the outfield which will not help them in any way. Kane Williamson is not playing for New Zealand and hence it will be difficult for them to chase a huge total, hopefully it will be an interesting match till the end.

[onrise]

I was surprised to see Rahul being not the opening batsman for India as he really builds the innings well and should be on top of batting line up and also when their are no experienced batsman opening the batting . But finally India played well and Kohli, Rahul and Iyer innings ensured India reaches to 347 for 4 in 50 overs . Iyer completed his century and was out for 103 hi

[mersal]

^Maybe team management wants him to fit to be in the middle order because India already have one of the best opening pair of Dhawan and Rohit so making KL Rahul to play at the top is like wasting the available opportunity.Iyer plays more responsibly now and wants to seal a permanent spot in the team as well.Big target for the NZ can they get it?

My pick NO.

[pakhitheboss]

Good to see James Neesham back in the New Zealand bowler. He is someone who is capable of bowling economically in the middle overs. In the absence of strike bowlers such as Boult and Ferguson, he will be very useful against the Indian batting lineup. So far the New Zealand bowlers have done well, to restrict India to 62/2 after 13 overs. Onl;y Hamish Bennett looked out of sorts, as he conceded 26 from his 3 overs. The other bowlers have done well, till now (Southee/de Grandhomme/Neesham).

Average performance by Prithvi Shaw and Mayank Agarwal. Good batting by Shreyas Iyer, this is a complete one sided game now. It is highly unlikely that NZ will be able to cBase such a massive target.

Why do I feel this ODI series will be a whitewash just like the T20 one.

[onrise]

NZ have started their innings very well and are 117/2 in 21.4 overs. They still require 231 and 8 wickets with required rate being 8.15. If India can pickup another wicket of Nicholls here who is batting at 59 NZ will start to feel the pressure again and may lose wickets quickly. And if they Taylor and Nicholas can play another 10 overs together things may be under control of NZ and require rate may fall.

[erikalui]

NZ are batting well now and are already at 178 runs and need another 170 runs from 18 overs. With just 3 wickets down and Taylor out there, it looks possible but still the RRR is nearing 9 and if he gets out, I don't see any batsmen good enough to get 150+ runs.

Today India's opening partnership was decent considering it's a new one and having inexperienced players bat. Rahul not being the opening batsmen was a good move as he was eased of that pressure playing without Rohit.

[JSRAW]

Its circle of time this is 10th match between these two team and Pakistan is already leading by 5 - 4 today this will be 5 - 5 in first 6 matches Pakistan was leading by 5 - 1 but recently its falls down badly just because of bad management and poor policies as this happen in PCB cricket is also going down like Squash and Hockey so this will carry on if we have some good person in management hopefully this will change again in near future.

I don't think this "good change" thing is happening any time soon. There's a hell lot of difference in the domestic structure of Indian cricket and Pakistan cricket, and after observing today's match between India and Pakistan, it's clear that Pakistan will not be able to have a good team in upcoming years. Still, PCB's new management and their roadmap are all flawed; it's time to copy/paste the structures of either Australia or England.

I highly doubt that merely copy/paste of any structure going to help Pakistani cause here, unless PCB recruit some sort of honest individuals, they no need to be 100% honest in that case but they should put country's interest first. At least avoid petty politics and select players on merit only, not because he's someone's nephew etc.

[ene1980]

Finally New Zealand is on a verge to win the ODI after getting humiliated in the T20 series and Taylor is still in the crease and they started loosing wickets right now, they play really well till they reach the final few runs and then they start loosing wickets which is really strange and they lost the T20 series only because they were not able to chase the score successfully and i am not expecting India to win from this stage but i wont be surprised if it ends up in a tie  .

[pakhitheboss]

Finally New Zealand is on a verge to win the ODI after getting humiliated in the T20 series and Taylor is still in the crease and they started loosing wickets right now, they play really well till they reach the final few runs and then they start loosing wickets which is really strange and they lost the T20 series only because they were not able to chase the score successfully and i am not expecting India to win from this stage but i wont be surprised if it ends up in a tie  .

They will win great chase, i thought they would lose this match after seeing the score they need to chase. Great batting by Taylor and Nicholls. This win will boost their confidence.

[Indymoney]

This one is pretty much in the bag with Indian batsmen having stepped on the gas a bit for the last 5-6 overs. They are cruising at a comfortable 89 for no loss after 21 overs. Need just 84 runs now at less than 3 rpo. The senior Pakistan team routinely gets booted out at the hands of India in world cups. No surprise that the young padawans are also making a habit out of it..

Its circle of time this is 10th match between these two team and Pakistan is already leading by 5 - 4 today this will be 5 - 5 in first 6 matches Pakistan was leading by 5 - 1 but recently its falls down badly just because of bad management and poor policies as this happen in PCB cricket is also going down like Squash and Hockey so this will carry on if we have some good person in management hopefully this will change again in near future.

I don't think this "good change" thing is happening any time soon. There's a hell lot of difference in the domestic structure of Indian cricket and Pakistan cricket, and after observing today's match between India and Pakistan, it's clear that Pakistan will not be able to have a good team in upcoming years. Still, PCB's new management and their roadmap are all flawed; it's time to copy/paste the structures of either Australia or England.

In Pakistan most of players came from streets no structure was helping them in long run even Lahore Gymkhana is one of best local club which never produce any top players mostly came from streets and rurla areas because this was natural talent and good management give them chance now its all end poor management bringing own peoples and boys or few coming through bribes as we have few cases recently so this kill all this just few powerful and good peoples can chnage things Indian system is also well prepared after this IPL because this bring too much money and Pakistani problem is PSL is also not able to bring thing like other countries as they are creating hype and foreign players unable to came here.

[Haunebu]

Finally New Zealand is on a verge to win the ODI after getting humiliated in the T20 series and Taylor is still in the crease and they started loosing wickets right now, they play really well till they reach the final few runs and then they start loosing wickets which is really strange and they lost the T20 series only because they were not able to chase the score successfully and i am not expecting India to win from this stage but i wont be surprised if it ends up in a tie  .

They deserved a win after their recent debacle. Taylor and Latham were spectacular along with Nichols. I have always had issues with Shardul leaking runs which is why Saini and Chahar are better in comparison in my opinion.

They managed to chase down such a big total with 11 balls to spare proving that they can still win(Sometimes). Kuldeep was pretty bad though he took a couple of important wickets while Bumrah and Jadeja bowled nicely. Lets see if India can bounce back in the 2nd ODI(Most probably will).

[romero121]

Its circle of time this is 10th match between these two team and Pakistan is already leading by 5 - 4 today this will be 5 - 5 in first 6 matches Pakistan was leading by 5 - 1 but recently its falls down badly just because of bad management and poor policies as this happen in PCB cricket is also going down like Squash and Hockey so this will carry on if we have some good person in management hopefully this will change again in near future.

I don't think this "good change" thing is happening any time soon. There's a hell lot of difference in the domestic structure of Indian cricket and Pakistan cricket, and after observing today's match between India and Pakistan, it's clear that Pakistan will not be able to have a good team in upcoming years. Still, PCB's new management and their roadmap are all flawed; it's time to copy/paste the structures of either Australia or England.

I highly doubt that merely copy/paste of any structure going to help Pakistani cause here, unless PCB recruit some sort of honest individuals, they no need to be 100% honest in that case but they should put country's interest first. At least avoid petty politics and select players on merit only, not because he's someone's nephew etc.

Pakistan need to take necessary action to make things right. Earlier it was India which always gives priority to political influence and for corruption. Slowly things have changed and the real talents have come out playing good cricket. In yesterday's match this was clearly visible on the way both the teams played. With Pakistan there were good cricketers, but they haven't got good experience to lead. If any of the player have led the team it could've atleast touched 200 runs.