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ZIM-W vs PNG-W
The third match of the ODI series between Zimbabwe Women vs Papua New Guinea Women has started. Papua New Guinea won the toss and elected to bowl. Zimbabwe women batted first and were all out for 184 runs in 46.4 overs.

In the beginning, Zimbabwe Women bowled well and put Papua New Guinea Women under pressure. Pauke Siaka and Sibona Jimmy both put up a good partnership to get the team out of pressure. However, Sibona Jimmy was out for 57 runs, Pauke Siaka was out for 24 runs. Pauke Siaka and Sibona Jimmy have been out in a row and the Papua New Guinea women are under pressure again. So far Papua New Guinea Women have collected 112 runs for the loss of 6 wickets in 33 overs. Papua New Guinea Women need 89 runs to win. Let's see which party wins in the end.

In Women's International competition, today one more competition was finished at stadium and all three matches or this competition was completed today which was among Zimbabwe Women squad against Papua new Guinea women squad. Before playing this match, this competition lead by two matches on favour to Zimbabwe women squad and third match also emerged by Zimbabwe women squad with unbelievable performance in bowling inning. In batting inning of Zimbabwe women squad, Zimbabwe women squad collected 184 scores after playing 46.4 overs but PNG women squad was unable to achieve such a low defeating target and lost this match with 35 scores. Josephine Nkomo displayed very superb performance in bowling inning and picked up 3 batter wickets in 7.2 overs. Sibona Jimmy PNG women squad members was only played great inning and made 57 scores but next batter after she wiped out at crease not batter good.

[Nalain420]

ZIM-W vs PNG-W
The third match of the ODI series between Zimbabwe Women vs Papua New Guinea Women has started. Papua New Guinea won the toss and elected to bowl. Zimbabwe women batted first and were all out for 184 runs in 46.4 overs.

In the beginning, Zimbabwe Women bowled well and put Papua New Guinea Women under pressure. Pauke Siaka and Sibona Jimmy both put up a good partnership to get the team out of pressure. However, Sibona Jimmy was out for 57 runs, Pauke Siaka was out for 24 runs. Pauke Siaka and Sibona Jimmy have been out in a row and the Papua New Guinea women are under pressure again. So far Papua New Guinea Women have collected 112 runs for the loss of 6 wickets in 33 overs. Papua New Guinea Women need 89 runs to win. Let's see which party wins in the end.

This is a big win for the Zimbabwe team.  Their batsmen set a target of 184 runs in 20 overs.  Which is a great goal.  Their batsmen worked very hard and struggled to score very well.  But Papua New Guinea batsmen could not achieve this target and will lose the match.  Their batsmen did not play the match with interest.  If they played they could probably win.  And luck did not cooperate and could not win the match.  My congratulations to the Zimbabwe team for the win and may they continue to play like this and win matches.  The Zimbabwe bowler also put in a lot of effort and struggle and won the match.The Papua New Guinea team should improve their performance. If they do not they can not win the match.

[cryptoWODL]

This is a big win for the Zimbabwe team.  Their batsmen set a target of 184 runs in 20 overs.  Which is a great goal.  Their batsmen worked very hard and struggled to score very well.  But Papua New Guinea batsmen could not achieve this target and will lose the match.  Their batsmen did not play the match with interest.  If they played they could probably win.  And luck did not cooperate and could not win the match.  My congratulations to the Zimbabwe team for the win and may they continue to play like this and win matches.  The Zimbabwe bowler also put in a lot of effort and struggle and won the match.The Papua New Guinea team should improve their performance. If they do not they can not win the match.

Yes of course it's a big win for Zimbabwe women team because they are not a very strong team yet they won the ODI series against Papua New Guinea.Zimbabwe Women's team has performed very well in this ODI series with Papua New Guinea as a result of which they have won three out of three ODI matches between these two teams.Papua New Guinea women's team whitewashed by Zimbabwe women's team in ODI series. In the first ODI between these two teams, Zimbabwe Women's team defeated Papua New Guinea Women's team by seven wickets. Similarly, in the second one-day match, Papua New Guinea women's team defeated by 2 wickets and Zimbabwe women's team won the match to clinch the series.The third ODI match between Papua New Guinea Women's team and Zimbabwe Women's team was a mere formality, with Zimbabwe Women winning the match and winning the series 3–0.

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ZIM-W vs PNG-W
The third match of the ODI series between Zimbabwe Women vs Papua New Guinea Women has started. Papua New Guinea won the toss and elected to bowl. Zimbabwe women batted first and were all out for 184 runs in 46.4 overs.

In the beginning, Zimbabwe Women bowled well and put Papua New Guinea Women under pressure. Pauke Siaka and Sibona Jimmy both put up a good partnership to get the team out of pressure. However, Sibona Jimmy was out for 57 runs, Pauke Siaka was out for 24 runs. Pauke Siaka and Sibona Jimmy have been out in a row and the Papua New Guinea women are under pressure again. So far Papua New Guinea Women have collected 112 runs for the loss of 6 wickets in 33 overs. Papua New Guinea Women need 89 runs to win. Let's see which party wins in the end.

Papua New Guinea Women won the toss and decided to field first. Zimbabwe Women came to bat first and bowled aggressively from the beginning. The Zimbabwe women's team was bowled out for just 185 runs. Batting at the target of 186 runs, the Papua New Guinea Women batsmen were under a lot of pressure after losing wickets at the beginning. The Papua New Guinea Women were all out for only 149 runs. The Zimbabwe Women Women won by 35 runs.

[JunaidAzizi]

Well, talking about the performance of the Bangladesh team and failure in three consecutive matches shows that the team is not ready to continue and win a match. The credit for this poor performance I think goes to the coaches because there must be some mistake in their coaching strategies that their team did not even go beyond the 100 scores or maybe the team did have not the ability to face the pressure, after all, it's a women team and will be panic easily but if a team on such an international platform behave like this then I think they first need good training and then came to the field. But somehow the Australian team is also a stronger one and can not be easily beaten. Just think about how their bowlers grabe the Bangladesh batsman and did not allow them to make more runs.

I don't think it is fair to say that Bangladesh bad performance is only because of coaches. Coaches do play a part in how well a team does but the skills and abilities of individual players also matter. It is not right to blame only coaches without thinking about how well players are doing and what they are thinking. We should also remember that the Australian team is really strong with good bowlers. Instead of blaming anyone, it would be better to look at what needs to improve and work on getting better skills and strategies. Every team has tough times and it is important to learn from mistakes but Bangladesh still not focusing on it.

Sir, you are right and I accept that the skills and capabilities of individual players are more matter but I think the teaching and strategies of a coach are even more important than individual player's skills how let me explain. We know that when a players come to a team he or she does not know enough to jump into the field and after coach training, he or she can express their skill and what they learn from the coach. So basically it's a coach who is responsible for the the player's performance. There are a lot of examples in the cricket world that choch decisions causing the failure of the team like South Africa lost a match in 2019 and all criticize the choch for his poor management and selection.

[SATWAT]

Well, talking about the performance of the Bangladesh team and failure in three consecutive matches shows that the team is not ready to continue and win a match. The credit for this poor performance I think goes to the coaches because there must be some mistake in their coaching strategies that their team did not even go beyond the 100 scores or maybe the team did have not the ability to face the pressure, after all, it's a women team and will be panic easily but if a team on such an international platform behave like this then I think they first need good training and then came to the field. But somehow the Australian team is also a stronger one and can not be easily beaten. Just think about how their bowlers grabe the Bangladesh batsman and did not allow them to make more runs.

I don't think it is fair to say that Bangladesh bad performance is only because of coaches. Coaches do play a part in how well a team does but the skills and abilities of individual players also matter. It is not right to blame only coaches without thinking about how well players are doing and what they are thinking. We should also remember that the Australian team is really strong with good bowlers. Instead of blaming anyone, it would be better to look at what needs to improve and work on getting better skills and strategies. Every team has tough times and it is important to learn from mistakes but Bangladesh still not focusing on it.

Sir, you are right and I accept that the skills and capabilities of individual players are more matter but I think the teaching and strategies of a coach are even more important than individual player's skills how let me explain. We know that when a players come to a team he or she does not know enough to jump into the field and after coach training, he or she can express their skill and what they learn from the coach. So basically it's a coach who is responsible for the the player's performance. There are a lot of examples in the cricket world that choch decisions causing the failure of the team like South Africa lost a match in 2019 and all criticize the choch for his poor management and selection.

We can't rely on coach or anyone about the development of the players or teams this all needed a good and solid strategy which working from school level or having system like U15, U17 and U19 are also helpful because from this level things can give good confidence to players, and also we will be able to natural leaders as well which will be able to lead the teams after completing their all proper training and other things at this level.
In the past, we have national b teams and other teams which were regularly going on tours and many players were able to learn about their problems and also have good experience and technique which give them chance for fixing all and then joining national teams this all were good and fair enough but now all ended and quality and performance of players and teams are going down badly.

[GigaBit]

Well, talking about the performance of the Bangladesh team and failure in three consecutive matches shows that the team is not ready to continue and win a match. The credit for this poor performance I think goes to the coaches because there must be some mistake in their coaching strategies that their team did not even go beyond the 100 scores or maybe the team did have not the ability to face the pressure, after all, it's a women team and will be panic easily but if a team on such an international platform behave like this then I think they first need good training and then came to the field. But somehow the Australian team is also a stronger one and can not be easily beaten. Just think about how their bowlers grabe the Bangladesh batsman and did not allow them to make more runs.

I don't think it is fair to say that Bangladesh bad performance is only because of coaches. Coaches do play a part in how well a team does but skills and abilities of individual players also matter. It is not right to blame only coaches without thinking about how well players are doing and what they are thinking. We should also remember that Australian team is really strong with good bowlers. Instead of blaming anyone it would be better to look at what needs to improve and work on getting better skills and strategies. Every team has tough times and it is important to learn from mistakes but Bangladesh still not focusing on it.

A coach can certainly play an important role in a team. But there's no reason to blame coach for improving the players' performance directly. No matter how good the coach is, what will the coach do if the player can't show his performance on the field? If it is done that the best coach in the world today is appointed, will that team do well in cricket? Of course not.

A coach can play a supporting role in improving a player's performance in some respects, but he can never play a leading role.

I want to share some light on what a coach can focus on.

1. Assist in human preparation.

2. Assist in strategic planning.

3. Monitoring player fitness.

4. Maintain good team relations and play a role in the game.

5. To identify the issues that should be given importance in improving the performance of the players.

A coach plays an important role in such matters.

[ThemePen]

A coach can certainly play an important role in a team. But there's no reason to blame coach for improving the players' performance directly. No matter how good the coach is, what will the coach do if the player can't show his performance on the field? If it is done that the best coach in the world today is appointed, will that team do well in cricket? Of course not.

A coach can play a supporting role in improving a player's performance in some respects, but he can never play a leading role.

I want to share some light on what a coach can focus on.

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I completely agree with your points on role of coach in team. While coach can certainly provide guidance support and strategic planning ultimately it is up to players to perform on field. Coach can assist in human preparation monitor player fitness and maintain team relations but players themselves must take responsibility for their performance. It is collaborative effort between coach and players to achieve success on field.

[Publictalk792]

We can't rely on coach or anyone about the development of the players or teams this all needed a good and solid strategy which working from school level or having system like U15, U17 and U19 are also helpful because from this level things can give good confidence to players, and also we will be able to natural leaders as well which will be able to lead the teams after completing their all proper training and other things at this level.
In the past, we have national b teams and other teams which were regularly going on tours and many players were able to learn about their problems and also have good experience and technique which give them chance for fixing all and then joining national teams this all were good and fair enough but now all ended and quality and performance of players and teams are going down badly.

I agree with what you said. It is important to have good plan to help players to improve starting when they are young in school and youth teams. Making teams for players U15 U17 and U19 can give them experience confidence and leadership skills they need for future. Also having national B teams and other groups that help players improve and go on trips can help them find and fix their weaknesses improve their skills and eventually join national team. Not having these plans recently might be making players and teams not do as well. By the way it is important to invest money in these plans to ensure cricket has strong future.

[synchronym]

This is a big win for the Zimbabwe team.  Their batsmen set a target of 184 runs in 20 overs.  Which is a great goal.  Their batsmen worked very hard and struggled to score very well.  But Papua New Guinea batsmen could not achieve this target and will lose the match.  Their batsmen did not play the match with interest.  If they played they could probably win.  And luck did not cooperate and could not win the match.  My congratulations to the Zimbabwe team for the win and may they continue to play like this and win matches.  The Zimbabwe bowler also put in a lot of effort and struggle and won the match.The Papua New Guinea team should improve their performance. If they do not they can not win the match.

Papua New Guinea winning the toss first is not a decision to bowl. The Papua New Guinea bowlers bowled aggressively from the start due to which Zimbabwe could not score too many runs and were bowled out for just 184 runs. When the Zimbabwean team was bowled out for 184 runs, I might have thought that the match might be won by Papua New Guinea. But Zimbabwe bowled very well due to their excellent bowling Papua New Guinea batsmen were bowled out for just 149 runs. Zimbabwe team won by 35 runs against Papua New Guinea. But Papua New Guinea bowlers performed better than the batsmen, if the batsmen could have batted responsibly, the Papua New Guinea team would have won the match against Zimbabwe.

[Unknown Op]

This is a big win for the Zimbabwe team.  Their batsmen set a target of 184 runs in 20 overs.  Which is a great goal.  Their batsmen worked very hard and struggled to score very well.  But Papua New Guinea batsmen could not achieve this target and will lose the match.  Their batsmen did not play the match with interest.  If they played they could probably win.  And luck did not cooperate and could not win the match.  My congratulations to the Zimbabwe team for the win and may they continue to play like this and win matches.  The Zimbabwe bowler also put in a lot of effort and struggle and won the match.The Papua New Guinea team should improve their performance. If they do not they can not win the match.

Papua New Guinea winning the toss first is not a decision to bowl. The Papua New Guinea bowlers bowled aggressively from the start due to which Zimbabwe could not score too many runs and were bowled out for just 184 runs. When the Zimbabwean team was bowled out for 184 runs, I might have thought that the match might be won by Papua New Guinea. But Zimbabwe bowled very well due to their excellent bowling Papua New Guinea batsmen were bowled out for just 149 runs. Zimbabwe team won by 35 runs against Papua New Guinea. But Papua New Guinea bowlers performed better than the batsmen, if the batsmen could have batted responsibly, the Papua New Guinea team would have won the match against Zimbabwe.

After losing two matches of Papua New Guinea tour to Zimbabwe competition, Papua New Guinea squad again lost this third final match of this competition. In third match, Zimbabwe Women squad has begun this match first batting inning by inviting of Papua new Guinea women squad. In ODI match, Zimbabwe Women squad collected 184 scores which seem not a big and challenging defeating target so far. Zimbabwe Women squad bowling inning performance was impressive and they beated very batter of Papua New Guinea squad at low runs rate and lost this match with 35 scores. Starter batters of Papua New Guinea squad easily lost their wickets without any collecting good scores. Sibona Jimmy batter support their squad and helping a lot but not enough for victory. Melanie Ani performance in today was much bad then other previous match and did not collect any score. Now T20I competition will begin among these squads after one day.

[noormcs5]

ENA-W vs NZA-W

2 nd game of ODI series and this series is playing between England A-W team vs New Zealand A-W team. 1 st game of this series, England A-W team did not won game due to low effort in overall game. But in today, England A-W team won this 2 nd game and level this series with one and one win. England A-W team set a very tough target of total 334 runs in ODi game by losing 5 wickets. New Zealand A-W team only chased down 251 runs and lost this game by  83 runs. K.Anderson was failed to perform well in today game and scored only 5 runs and also other opener batsman N.Patel was also dismissed for 0 run. In 43.5 overs, entire team of New Zealand A-W team lost wickets and also lost this game.

These days, we have only women team who will be playing the ODI matches while men are busy playing IPL T20.
Now, it’s time to wait for the ODI series that will be started after just two days and then we will again see a wonderful competition which will also be won by the England Women's team as we have seen their performance in the T20 series.

Anyways now they have to play in long partnerships and the whole team of England had the intention to play fast and no intention of making partnerships and if from this type of mindset, they will play the ODI series then it will be wrong, and for this New Zealand team is fully prepared because with the pressure of T20, they played fast otherwise their team is slow and this slowness will help them at ODI series of three matches.

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Papua New Guinea winning the toss first is not a decision to bowl. The Papua New Guinea bowlers bowled aggressively from the start due to which Zimbabwe could not score too many runs and were bowled out for just 184 runs. When the Zimbabwean team was bowled out for 184 runs, I might have thought that the match might be won by Papua New Guinea. But Zimbabwe bowled very well due to their excellent bowling Papua New Guinea batsmen were bowled out for just 149 runs. Zimbabwe team won by 35 runs against Papua New Guinea. But Papua New Guinea bowlers performed better than the batsmen, if the batsmen could have batted responsibly, the Papua New Guinea team would have won the match against Zimbabwe.

I agree that Papua New Guinea decision to bowl first was not necessarily bad decision as their bowlers were able to restrict Zimbabwe to low score. However failure of their batsmen to chase down the target ultimately cost them match. It is clear that bowlers performed better than batsmen in this match and if batsmen had shown more responsibility and composure Papua New Guinea could have emerged victorious. It is good for team to work on their batting performance in order to achieve success in future matches.

[Publictalk792]

After losing two matches of Papua New Guinea tour to Zimbabwe competition, Papua New Guinea squad again lost this third final match of this competition. In third match, Zimbabwe Women squad has begun this match first batting inning by inviting of Papua new Guinea women squad. In ODI match, Zimbabwe Women squad collected 184 scores which seem not a big and challenging defeating target so far. Zimbabwe Women squad bowling inning performance was impressive and they beated very batter of Papua New Guinea squad at low runs rate and lost this match with 35 scores. Starter batters of Papua New Guinea squad easily lost their wickets without any collecting good scores. Sibona Jimmy batter support their squad and helping a lot but not enough for victory. Melanie Ani performance in today was much bad then other previous match and did not collect any score. Now T20I competition will begin among these squads after one day.

I think Papua New Guinea women team needs to get better at batting if they want to win matches against Zimbabwe in T20I competition. It is worrying that starting batters keep getting out without scoring many runs which puts pressure on rest of team. Even though Sibona Jimmy tried to help it was not enough to win. Also, it is concerning that important players like Melanie Ani did not play well. Team should come together focus on their batting plan and make sure each player does their part to score well. If they improve their batting and play better individually Papua New Guinea can do well in T20I competition against Zimbabwe.

[Sithara007]

I think Papua New Guinea women team needs to get better at batting if they want to win matches against Zimbabwe in T20I competition. It is worrying that starting batters keep getting out without scoring many runs which puts pressure on rest of team. Even though Sibona Jimmy tried to help it was not enough to win. Also, it is concerning that important players like Melanie Ani did not play well. Team should come together focus on their batting plan and make sure each player does their part to score well. If they improve their batting and play better individually Papua New Guinea can do well in T20I competition against Zimbabwe.

You can't directly compare both the teams. On one hand, Zimbabwe is a test nation and they have access to $17.64 million per year in the form of ICC funds every year. On the other hand, being an associate nation Papua New Guinea receives around 2% of that amount every year. Ideally neighboring nations such as Australia should help them. But unfortunately CA is busy elsewhere. Zimbabwe received a lot of help from South Africa when they were an associate member. Anyway, PNG's growth is being noted down by a lot of ICC officials.

[MusaPk]

You can't directly compare both the teams. On one hand, Zimbabwe is a test nation and they have access to $17.64 million per year in the form of ICC funds every year. On the other hand, being an associate nation Papua New Guinea receives around 2% of that amount every year. Ideally neighboring nations such as Australia should help them. But unfortunately CA is busy elsewhere. Zimbabwe received a lot of help from South Africa when they were an associate member. Anyway, PNG's growth is being noted down by a lot of ICC officials.

New Zealand is also located in same region and can help PNG but no wealthy board is willing to help the weaker one located nearby. One more such example is of Nepal who has lots of potential for cricket and is located very next to BCCI. Out of 12 full ICC members 38% share goes to BCCI and rest of remaining 11 full members share is in single figure. Associate members have to work hard to improve there performance to get more funds from ICC. 

[ThemePen]

New Zealand is also located in same region and can help PNG but no wealthy board is willing to help the weaker one located nearby. One more such example is of Nepal who has lots of potential for cricket and is located very next to BCCI. Out of 12 full ICC members 38% share goes to BCCI and rest of remaining 11 full members share is in single figure. Associate members have to work hard to improve there performance to get more funds from ICC. 

ICC does not share money equally so smaller nations struggle to get resources and build up their cricket teams. This stops sport from growing in these countries and keeps things unfair in cricket world. All cricket boards especially the richer ones need to help out neighboring nations to make cricket more fair and competitive. Working together and supporting each other in ICC is key to making sure cricket keeps growing and doing well worldwide.

[comboday]

New Zealand is also in the same region and can help PNG. Another example is Nepal for cricket and BC I have a lot to offer. Among the 12 full IC members, 38% of the shares are in BC and the remaining 11 full members share in single digits. Members have to work hard to improve their performance to get more funds from IC.

[Fuso.hp]

New Zealand is also located in same region and can help PNG but no wealthy board is willing to help the weaker one located nearby. One more such example is of Nepal who has lots of potential for cricket and is located very next to BCCI. Out of 12 full ICC members 38% share goes to BCCI and rest of remaining 11 full members share is in single figure. Associate members have to work hard to improve there performance to get more funds from ICC. 

ICC does not share money equally so smaller nations struggle to get resources and build up their cricket teams. This stops sport from growing in these countries and keeps things unfair in cricket world. All cricket boards especially the richer ones need to help out neighboring nations to make cricket more fair and competitive. Working together and supporting each other in ICC is key to making sure cricket keeps growing and doing well worldwide.

India and Pakistan matches are always more exciting and it is natural that icc will pay more money to India and Pakistan in terms of annual money distribution as India earns the most money in Pakistan matches. Again England and Australia match is always full of tough competition in case of money sharing it is natural to give more money to these teams than other teams. Zimbabwe plays very few bilateral series in a year, on the contrary, big teams like England, Australia, New Zealand, India, Pakistan regularly participate in various bilateral series throughout the year, but ICC earns good amount of money from these teams. In that case, it is natural that these teams will be given more money and Zimbabwe will be given very less money. Now if we say that all the parties should distribute the money equally then we must be wrong.

[Compromise me]

New Zealand is also located in same region and can help PNG but no wealthy board is willing to help the weaker one located nearby. One more such example is of Nepal who has lots of potential for cricket and is located very next to BCCI. Out of 12 full ICC members 38% share goes to BCCI and rest of remaining 11 full members share is in single figure. Associate members have to work hard to improve there performance to get more funds from ICC.  

ICC does not share money equally so smaller nations struggle to get resources and build up their cricket teams. This stops sport from growing in these countries and keeps things unfair in cricket world. All cricket boards especially the richer ones need to help out neighboring nations to make cricket more fair and competitive. Working together and supporting each other in ICC is key to making sure cricket keeps growing and doing well worldwide.

India and Pakistan matches are always more exciting and it is natural that icc will pay more money to India and Pakistan in terms of annual money distribution as India earns the most money in Pakistan matches. Again England and Australia match is always full of tough competition in case of money sharing it is natural to give more money to these teams than other teams. Zimbabwe plays very few bilateral series in a year, on the contrary, big teams like England, Australia, New Zealand, India, Pakistan regularly participate in various bilateral series throughout the year, but ICC earns good amount of money from these teams. In that case, it is natural that these teams will be given more money and Zimbabwe will be given very less money. Now if we say that all the parties should distribute the money equally then we must be wrong.

Yes ,you are right. Pakistani International cricket team is making good money. But ranking matters a lot for earning money in cricket. Pakistani team makes good money from T20 format because Pakistani team is good for T20 but Pakistani cricket team is not good for ODI and test formats.

Indian International ODI and test cricket teams are best of the World and that's why they are earning very good. England International ODI cricket team performed very well in 2017 World and won the World Cup And Australian International cricket team is best for ODI and Test formats.That's why they are defending champions.