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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 15 (45.5%)
SMB - 7 (21.2%)
Magnolia Hotshots - 4 (12.1%)
Talk and Text - 6 (18.2%)
Phoenix Fuel Masters - 1 (3%)
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March 27, 2022, 10:26:37 PM
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Lol, if the defender is pretty much aware of the situation, they would not fould LA knowing there's not enough time left and even if LA made the layup shot NLEX would still win the game.

LA admitted the mistake though, so no more speculation on is to be blamed.



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Most probably he’s on panic to get the score so they can tie or take the win, its good that he admitted it but of course we should not blame that much since over all, they play off in game 3 and lucky that I was able to bet on NLEX. Let’s move forward for the game 4, for sure this will be another exciting game and might be the last game if Ginebra was able to concentrate and focus to win the game.

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March 27, 2022, 10:44:37 PM
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Lol, if the defender is pretty much aware of the situation, they would not fould LA knowing there's not enough time left and even if LA made the layup shot NLEX would still win the game.

LA admitted the mistake though, so no more speculation on is to be blamed.



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Most probably he’s on panic to get the score so they can tie or take the win, its good that he admitted it but of course we should not blame that much since over all, they play off in game 3 and lucky that I was able to bet on NLEX. Let’s move forward for the game 4, for sure this will be another exciting game and might be the last game if Ginebra was able to concentrate and focus to win the game.
That's a mental lapses, which is normal to happen especially if you're in an intense game and on a really close one.
Let's accept this, and nothing to worry since this is not the last game and there's still more for Ginebra to bounce back especially LA.


Expect a more active Ginebra players in the next game, LA becomes the highlights here because of his bad decision on the last seconds of the game but if you are going to analyze the whole game of Ginebra, you can really see other player are having a bad time as well.

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March 28, 2022, 09:22:14 AM
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Oh well, NLEX has won. Are we going to see the classic Manila classico again? Will it be 2-2 or it's going to be the final game on Wednesday for this semis of Ginebra and NLEX?
Well, we don't know and this is going to be another exciting game again just as usual when Ginebra is about to get on the finals.

NLEX win is not impressive at all. They just simply extend the series. Ginebra will surely get the series.

But on Magnolia, Meralco seems to know the tactics on what to do. They just have to maintain it while they can.

Ginebra can fulfill the Manila Clasico but I have doubts about Magnolia. Right now, the Finals face-off again of Meralco, and Ginebra has a more chance to happen.
That's what they have to do, to extend the series and win so that they won't be dropped on this semis. We'll see by Wednesday if that's going to be the last game for NLEX.
Well, whether it will be Ginebra vs. Meralco or Magnolia, everyone wants to see that it's going to be Ginebra on the finals. That's all the fans are waiting for. Just a few more days and that will be the deciding factor if the series for both matchups are going to be extended or it'll be the ending as a gateway to the finals.

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March 28, 2022, 12:17:47 PM
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Lol, if the defender is pretty much aware of the situation, they would not fould LA knowing there's not enough time left and even if LA made the layup shot NLEX would still win the game.

LA admitted the mistake though, so no more speculation on is to be blamed.



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Most probably he’s on panic to get the score so they can tie or take the win, its good that he admitted it but of course we should not blame that much since over all, they play off in game 3 and lucky that I was able to bet on NLEX. Let’s move forward for the game 4, for sure this will be another exciting game and might be the last game if Ginebra was able to concentrate and focus to win the game.
That's a mental lapses, which is normal to happen especially if you're in an intense game and on a really close one.
Let's accept this, and nothing to worry since this is not the last game and there's still more for Ginebra to bounce back especially LA.


Expect a more active Ginebra players in the next game, LA becomes the highlights here because of his bad decision on the last seconds of the game but if you are going to analyze the whole game of Ginebra, you can really see other player are having a bad time as well.

Okay, let's move on. LA has to correct his mistake on the next game, and that is by winning the game to end the series. He is a smart player, a veteran who knows how to win, so bouncing back is very important. Also, I'm thinking, if Brownlee does not miss a lot of FT, they could have won the game, so he should improve the FTs in game 4.



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March 28, 2022, 12:37:08 PM
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What can you say about LA Tenorio's last play guys? Cheesy

He is known to be a buzzer-beater guy and truly aware of how much time is left. Downed by 3, 7 seconds remaining, no timeout, inbound from the other courtside, still, he really push for a 2-point play. It needs at least 4-5 seconds to bring down the ball and what if there's a defense, it will extend the time of handling.

The bottom line is you can't expect another ball possession that's why you have to go for the 3 points to seal the win. Cheesy

He is the Filipino version of JR Smith when he held the ball during the Finals against the Warriors where they got swept. Cheesy

Kidding aside though, maybe he's kinda confused on what happened and maybe his crucial turnover led him to mental breakdown to the point that he also forgot the score. I'm like "WHAT!!!!!!!" while watching the game. Like what happened?

On the contrary though, there is a question that came to my mind after watching saying that "What if they really gave up that game so that the series will be extended. More game = more revenue and more entertainment for the fans?" Lets take note also that when Ginebra is playing, the venue is almost full so more audiences = more revenue Cheesy. Its only a question out of my curiosity though and it might be true.

Well, the game is over already and lets move on. At least my Meralco team is one win away from reaching the Finals against Magnolia Cheesy. Another problem of Magnolia also is Paul Lee got injured on his foot. When they need him the most that is also the time that he will get injured. :X

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March 28, 2022, 12:53:28 PM
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On the contrary though, there is a question that came to my mind after watching saying that "What if they really gave up that game so that the series will be extended. More game = more revenue and more entertainment for the fans?" Lets take note also that when Ginebra is playing, the venue is almost full so more audiences = more revenue Cheesy. Its only a question out of my curiosity though and it might be true.


This is the point that I have in my mind, LA has been in many years in the NBA and has been in many crucial moments in his career, so it's impossible that he would miss the right thing to do. There must be a rigged, like you said, more games = more revenue, and this is their opportunity to recover their loses during the pandemic.

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March 28, 2022, 01:12:01 PM
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On the contrary though, there is a question that came to my mind after watching saying that "What if they really gave up that game so that the series will be extended. More game = more revenue and more entertainment for the fans?" Lets take note also that when Ginebra is playing, the venue is almost full so more audiences = more revenue Cheesy. Its only a question out of my curiosity though and it might be true.


This is the point that I have in my mind, LA has been in many years in the NBA and has been in many crucial moments in his career, so it's impossible that he would miss the right thing to do. There must be a rigged, like you said, more games = more revenue, and this is their opportunity to recover their loses during the pandemic.

Only LA and the people behind that rigged thing know everything behind. Hahahah  Wink

Moving forward, it's not the end of the series Gin kings still leading and still have the high chance to win and move to the finals.

One game is nothing they can adjust to and possibly finished the series in their next game, though NLEX is not giving the fight they

are willing to risk it all to continue, it will be interesting to see who's more hunger to know who will win the game 4.
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March 28, 2022, 01:27:34 PM
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On the contrary though, there is a question that came to my mind after watching saying that "What if they really gave up that game so that the series will be extended. More game = more revenue and more entertainment for the fans?" Lets take note also that when Ginebra is playing, the venue is almost full so more audiences = more revenue Cheesy. Its only a question out of my curiosity though and it might be true.


This is the point that I have in my mind, LA has been in many years in the NBA and has been in many crucial moments in his career, so it's impossible that he would miss the right thing to do. There must be a rigged, like you said, more games = more revenue, and this is their opportunity to recover their loses during the pandemic.
Revenue at the cost of getting the title, this rumors might be true since if there's a money on the table even a good player will grab that opportunity.
Let's see if NLEX will continue their lucky game against Ginebra or no more second chances for Ginebra as they take the game seriously. If Ginebra loses in game 4, I believe that is not scripted anymore, so let's watch closely and have some bet to enjoy the game.
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March 28, 2022, 01:36:17 PM
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NLEX won, no swept happened.

However, I have a feeling that the Ginebra try to give this game to the NLEX.

What I noticed is that Brownlee missing Free throws, and the last play, what a stupid LA Tenorio, I don't know if he is not aware that they are down by 3 points, but instead of shooting a 3 point shot, he drives the ball and make a lay up with no time left.
Why they throw the game if they already have the chance to go to the finals?
Well, this is just a speculation and I know what you are thinking since Live audience are allowed now maybe they are trying to get more money before they end the game, this is an old speculation. The game is convincing because NLEX did a great job so stay alive, let’s give credits to them for not giving up.


It's just my speculation mate, and I'm sure some of us here think the same way.

The series could be more fun if it will be extended, like the NLEX vs Ginebra series, if we have game 5, then for sure, the Arena will be full as Ginebra has a lot of supporters which are will fill in the crowd.

Game 4 is a doe or die for the Ginebra, at least that's their mentality because they will be in danger if they will let this reach game 5.

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March 28, 2022, 01:55:50 PM
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What happened to LA is more of a mental lapse IMO. Although I understand the conspiracy theory, I don't think they would do it in a semi-finals and I doubt they would instruct the players to drop the game on a nationally televised game. If ever there was a plan to extend the series, it's easier (less obvious) to get the referees do the job.
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March 28, 2022, 02:21:31 PM
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What happened to LA is more of a mental lapse IMO. Although I understand the conspiracy theory, I don't think they would do it in a semi-finals and I doubt they would instruct the players to drop the game on a nationally televised game. If ever there was a plan to extend the series, it's easier (less obvious) to get the referees do the job.

Conspiracy does happen anytime if it really exists.

I thought the series will resume tomorrow, but when I checked I see it will be on Wednesday.
This is good for LA, he needs time to reflect and make sure he will not do the same mistake again, game 4 is a must-win for them if they want to have a shot on the championship trophy.

Guys, have you seen how good the Meralco were in their last 2 games?
Do you think they can beat the Kings?

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March 28, 2022, 05:05:40 PM
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It's just my speculation mate, and I'm sure some of us here think the same way.

The series could be more fun if it will be extended, like the NLEX vs Ginebra series, if we have game 5, then for sure, the Arena will be full as Ginebra has a lot of supporters which are will fill in the crowd.

Game 4 is a doe or die for the Ginebra, at least that's their mentality because they will be in danger if they will let this reach game 5.

I follow you with that sentiment, Ginebra will not let this to happen if possible to finished the series in game 4 they will do all the best that they can to advance to the finals. Maybe it's a mistake with Tenorio but he knows that it's not the end of his career, they can move on and continue to chase another title.

They are closer to the finals, one more win and they will be back and will try to add more title to the franchise.


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March 28, 2022, 08:58:02 PM
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What happened to LA is more of a mental lapse IMO. Although I understand the conspiracy theory, I don't think they would do it in a semi-finals and I doubt they would instruct the players to drop the game on a nationally televised game. If ever there was a plan to extend the series, it's easier (less obvious) to get the referees do the job.
Yes, the conspiracy theories are starting to prove that there's really some cooking happening although I know that there has been a belief like that ever since I don't believe in it either. But it's a crucial time to do some mistakes and LA must be tired and he hasn't noticed that there's one NLEX warrior on the front that would steal that ball upon passing. That's just a usual mistake and probably have thought that the lead wasn't that much either so he took 2 points.

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March 28, 2022, 09:26:43 PM
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What happened to LA is more of a mental lapse IMO. Although I understand the conspiracy theory, I don't think they would do it in a semi-finals and I doubt they would instruct the players to drop the game on a nationally televised game. If ever there was a plan to extend the series, it's easier (less obvious) to get the referees do the job.
The game is too close and if the game is fixed they should be a great actor since the game was intense and you can really see the emotion of every players. Anyway, let’s give them the benefit of the doubt and move forward now, game 4 is coming and I hope to watch live this time. Still rooting for Ginebra to go to the finals this conference.
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March 28, 2022, 10:01:59 PM
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What happened to LA is more of a mental lapse IMO. Although I understand the conspiracy theory, I don't think they would do it in a semi-finals and I doubt they would instruct the players to drop the game on a nationally televised game. If ever there was a plan to extend the series, it's easier (less obvious) to get the referees do the job.

Agree. After all, LA is only human, can commit mistakes like that and it can happen to anybody in this kind of sport, it even happens in the NBA.

Thinking that it was a fixed game is just disrespect to coach Yeng and the NLEX team who worked very hard not to be swept in the series so for me that was just another game where NLEX was lucky to survive the onslaught and live to fight for the title.

Next game would be too hard for them though so I'm going for the Kings this time around even if it is a 5 points handicap.
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March 29, 2022, 12:14:23 PM
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What happened to LA is more of a mental lapse IMO. Although I understand the conspiracy theory, I don't think they would do it in a semi-finals and I doubt they would instruct the players to drop the game on a nationally televised game. If ever there was a plan to extend the series, it's easier (less obvious) to get the referees do the job.
I respect your opinion but he has been playing for a long time already, enough for him not to make crucial mistakes "TWICE" in a very crucial match. Lets take note the word "TWICE" here because a single mistake is understandable but to make it twice... still I think there is something wrong either they want more revenue or they are just too confident to win the series that is why they just gave 1 win to NLEX.

On the other hand though, there might be a chance that a professional player like him can experience mental breakdown like you said. I just hope that this will not happen again either to him or to other Ginebra players as well or NLEX will upset them as the momentum will shift if NLEX win again in Game 4.

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March 29, 2022, 12:53:15 PM
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He is the Filipino version of JR Smith when he held the ball during the Finals against the Warriors where they got swept. Cheesy

that's funny! Lol but the difference is smith didn't look at the timer and LA mistake is he didn't look at the score board and just make a decision.. Actually there's a lot of Filipino fans that have doubts on LA because some of their losses because of him..i  dont know if its true. by the way he already admitted his mistake, let see on the game 4.
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He is the Filipino version of JR Smith when he held the ball during the Finals against the Warriors where they got swept. Cheesy

that's funny! Lol but the difference is smith didn't look at the timer and LA mistake is he didn't look at the score board and just make a decision.. Actually there's a lot of Filipino fans that have doubts on LA because some of their losses because of him..i  dont know if its true. by the way he already admitted his mistake, let see on the game 4.

Of course, that will not happen anymore in game 4 because it's too obvious if he will make it again. Ginebra will surely end the series in game 4, they just throw the game 3 so the NLEX will not be swept.  Brownlee will carry the team as he was still unstoppable, so expect him making like at least 30 points.

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March 29, 2022, 02:34:20 PM
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He is the Filipino version of JR Smith when he held the ball during the Finals against the Warriors where they got swept. Cheesy

that's funny! Lol but the difference is smith didn't look at the timer and LA mistake is he didn't look at the score board and just make a decision.. Actually there's a lot of Filipino fans that have doubts on LA because some of their losses because of him..i  dont know if its true. by the way he already admitted his mistake, let see on the game 4.

Of course, that will not happen anymore in game 4 because it's too obvious if he will make it again. Ginebra will surely end the series in game 4, they just throw the game 3 so the NLEX will not be swept.  Brownlee will carry the team as he was still unstoppable, so expect him making like at least 30 points.

Speaking of game 4, you can check the betting lines now on your favorite sportsbook.

Ginebra -3.5
Hotshots -4.5

I agree with the line of Ginebra but I don't find the hotshots spread very attractive, I mean, they should be only -2 after losing twice in a row to Meralco.

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He is the Filipino version of JR Smith when he held the ball during the Finals against the Warriors where they got swept. Cheesy

that's funny! Lol but the difference is smith didn't look at the timer and LA mistake is he didn't look at the score board and just make a decision.. Actually there's a lot of Filipino fans that have doubts on LA because some of their losses because of him..i  dont know if its true. by the way he already admitted his mistake, let see on the game 4.

Of course, that will not happen anymore in game 4 because it's too obvious if he will make it again. Ginebra will surely end the series in game 4, they just throw the game 3 so the NLEX will not be swept.  Brownlee will carry the team as he was still unstoppable, so expect him making like at least 30 points.

Speaking of game 4, you can check the betting lines now on your favorite sportsbook.

Ginebra -3.5
Hotshots -4.5

I agree with the line of Ginebra but I don't find the hotshots spread very attractive, I mean, they should be only -2 after losing twice in a row to Meralco.

In that case, then maybe I would just pass the Hotshots spread and will focus on the Ginebra. NLEX were just lucky to win one game, and I believe that they cannot be lucky twice in a row. That -3.5 should be covered, and also thinking of betting the under 191.5.

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