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January 24, 2022, 11:59:19 PM
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Imports do not have to wait for too long before they can resume. Knowing that the teams are already allowed to start their practice is a good sign that soon enough the PBA will resume. NLEX had a good start, hopefully, their momentum will not be gone due to this long break.

Let me refresh you guys with the current standing.

Their record is 4-1
https://pba.ph/standings

Practices will allow them to be more familiar with those set plays. It's good to know that they are now allowing players to do the drill,

NLEX is doing great, but like every other team, they can use this long break to create new strategy and make good adjustments from their

last performances. We are still in the early rounds and once PBA resume, we will see which team will excel and start to rally.

Betting will be open again and each of us can share our predictions and thoughts with those upcoming games.. Wink


If I'm not mistaken, practices are still limited to 5-10 guys on the court? Am I right?

The rotations would be bad but at least teams are getting practices. Imports needs this as they didn't know well the performance of his teammates.

Scrimmages is also now allowed? I don't think so unless those will be held on areas under Alert Level 2 at minimum.

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January 25, 2022, 07:54:52 AM
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If I'm not mistaken, practices are still limited to 5-10 guys on the court? Am I right?

The rotations would be bad but at least teams are getting practices. Imports needs this as they didn't know well the performance of his teammates.

Unfortunately, the set-up of practices are only limited to 7 people together with their head coach and 1 safety officer. So, only the first 5 players including the imports can do that said practice, sure their rotations won't be as great than what they're used to but they don't have any choice as group workouts are still limited in numbers. Also, they're only given 10 days worth of practice before the games resume.

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January 25, 2022, 09:32:49 AM
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If I'm not mistaken, practices are still limited to 5-10 guys on the court? Am I right?

The rotations would be bad but at least teams are getting practices. Imports needs this as they didn't know well the performance of his teammates.

Unfortunately, the set-up of practices are only limited to 7 people together with their head coach and 1 safety officer. So, only the first 5 players including the imports can do that said practice, sure their rotations won't be as great than what they're used to but they don't have any choice as group workouts are still limited in numbers. Also, they're only given 10 days worth of practice before the games resume.
Well, at least having a practice with limited number of players is better than no practices at all.

Is that 5 players per day? If that's the case then they can just make a schedule of practices and just make a 2v2 practice plus their import maybe. 10 days worth of practice before the games resume so in short its true that the league will resume at the first week of February then. That's good and I don't think that the PBA can afford to suspend more than one month because they will loss a lot of money if they will extend it longer.

With regards to practices, you might see me bias with this part but I think the team needs to prioritize the imports in practices because the team will rely much on them but I'm not saying that their imports will do all of their jobs. Its just that most of the time the team is relying on them so in short if 5 players only are allowed to play then it must be the Import plus 4 players base on the schedule Smiley.

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January 25, 2022, 03:19:03 PM
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If I'm not mistaken, practices are still limited to 5-10 guys on the court? Am I right?

The rotations would be bad but at least teams are getting practices. Imports needs this as they didn't know well the performance of his teammates.

Unfortunately, the set-up of practices are only limited to 7 people together with their head coach and 1 safety officer. So, only the first 5 players including the imports can do that said practice, sure their rotations won't be as great than what they're used to but they don't have any choice as group workouts are still limited in numbers. Also, they're only given 10 days worth of practice before the games resume.

Enough to set a play and have an imaginary defense, better than nothing right? they need to live this way while

the game still pending, but the good thing here is there's already a said date for the resume and we will see our favorite team and

players to entertain us once again, not to forget the betting side is what most of us here are waiting  Wink 10 more days and everything

will be roll again...
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January 25, 2022, 08:49:03 PM
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If I'm not mistaken, practices are still limited to 5-10 guys on the court? Am I right?

The rotations would be bad but at least teams are getting practices. Imports needs this as they didn't know well the performance of his teammates.

Unfortunately, the set-up of practices are only limited to 7 people together with their head coach and 1 safety officer. So, only the first 5 players including the imports can do that said practice, sure their rotations won't be as great than what they're used to but they don't have any choice as group workouts are still limited in numbers. Also, they're only given 10 days worth of practice before the games resume.
This is why the main players should have more exposure on the practice so they can be good in court but of course I’m pretty sure other players are also given a time to practice since they are part of the team and if things didn’t go the right way, they are the one to fill the blanks. Its good to hear that PBA already have a schedule to resume the conference, wishing for a smooth comeback.
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January 26, 2022, 10:22:05 AM
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If I'm not mistaken, practices are still limited to 5-10 guys on the court? Am I right?

The rotations would be bad but at least teams are getting practices. Imports needs this as they didn't know well the performance of his teammates.

Unfortunately, the set-up of practices are only limited to 7 people together with their head coach and 1 safety officer. So, only the first 5 players including the imports can do that said practice, sure their rotations won't be as great than what they're used to but they don't have any choice as group workouts are still limited in numbers. Also, they're only given 10 days worth of practice before the games resume.
This is why the main players should have more exposure on the practice so they can be good in court but of course I’m pretty sure other players are also given a time to practice since they are part of the team and if things didn’t go the right way, they are the one to fill the blanks. Its good to hear that PBA already have a schedule to resume the conference, wishing for a smooth comeback.

I think you are right about the main players having more exposure to the practice. Because they are kind of the backbone of a team. But the other players also should be given practice. Because as you said if things don't go exactly as planned they might come in handy. And there are some great players who work really long hours to get ready but that's another story.

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January 26, 2022, 04:39:01 PM
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Last time, there was a discussion about Mark Pingris going to be a player of MPBL IIRC. Now, he's not just a player for another league but higher than that and that's being a commissioner on the Pilipinas Super League. Isn't it a threat for the PBA with the launch of different leagues in our country? or they're supporting it and has no problems with it?
(https://www.spin.ph/basketball/marc-pingris-named-as-pilipinas-super-league-commissioner-a2437-20220122)

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Last time, there was a discussion about Mark Pingris going to be a player of MPBL IIRC. Now, he's not just a player for another league but higher than that and that's being a commissioner on the Pilipinas Super League. Isn't it a threat for the PBA with the launch of different leagues in our country? or they're supporting it and has no problems with it?
(https://www.spin.ph/basketball/marc-pingris-named-as-pilipinas-super-league-commissioner-a2437-20220122)

Another interesting venture from Pinoy Sakuragi, not sure if there's any conflict between PBA and this new league.

Just assuming if there's certain conflict, Pingris will think twice before accepting the job, we already discuss the reasons why

he didn't play with MPBL, maybe that will be that same reason in case this Pilipinas Super League will be a direct competitor of PBA

He needs to set things up, or just like how you think about it, maybe PBA is supporting this league..
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Last time, there was a discussion about Mark Pingris going to be a player of MPBL IIRC. Now, he's not just a player for another league but higher than that and that's being a commissioner on the Pilipinas Super League. Isn't it a threat for the PBA with the launch of different leagues in our country? or they're supporting it and has no problems with it?
(https://www.spin.ph/basketball/marc-pingris-named-as-pilipinas-super-league-commissioner-a2437-20220122)

Another interesting venture from Pinoy Sakuragi, not sure if there's any conflict between PBA and this new league.

Just assuming if there's certain conflict, Pingris will think twice before accepting the job, we already discuss the reasons why

he didn't play with MPBL, maybe that will be that same reason in case this Pilipinas Super League will be a direct competitor of PBA

He needs to set things up, or just like how you think about it, maybe PBA is supporting this league..


That's not a problem as long as there's no conflict. More league is better as it gives a lot of opportunities for our talent to grow, we know that PBA has very big requirements in order to qualify in the PBA draft, with small leagues now, if you have the skills and talent, you can play and can be popular.
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January 26, 2022, 08:51:42 PM
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If I'm not mistaken, practices are still limited to 5-10 guys on the court? Am I right?

The rotations would be bad but at least teams are getting practices. Imports needs this as they didn't know well the performance of his teammates.

Unfortunately, the set-up of practices are only limited to 7 people together with their head coach and 1 safety officer. So, only the first 5 players including the imports can do that said practice, sure their rotations won't be as great than what they're used to but they don't have any choice as group workouts are still limited in numbers. Also, they're only given 10 days worth of practice before the games resume.
This is why the main players should have more exposure on the practice so they can be good in court but of course I’m pretty sure other players are also given a time to practice since they are part of the team and if things didn’t go the right way, they are the one to fill the blanks. Its good to hear that PBA already have a schedule to resume the conference, wishing for a smooth comeback.


They needed to have that practices too, but main gunners are the priorities for now, it's just more than a week and we will see PBA
back in action. With the preparations coming from all the teams, we will expect some new playing styles, though it's not the same
as the last time due to this omicron, but knowing that they are back and resume, the games are more than okay.

NLEX and Gin kings are hot, but we know both TNT and SMB are both capable of chasing the title.

We will see which team will excel and advance to the next round.. Tongue Roll Eyes

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January 26, 2022, 09:10:55 PM
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NLEX and Gin kings are hot, but we know both TNT and SMB are both capable of chasing the title.

We will see which team will excel and advance to the next round.. Tongue Roll Eyes


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January 26, 2022, 09:26:25 PM
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Last time, there was a discussion about Mark Pingris going to be a player of MPBL IIRC. Now, he's not just a player for another league but higher than that and that's being a commissioner on the Pilipinas Super League. Isn't it a threat for the PBA with the launch of different leagues in our country? or they're supporting it and has no problems with it?
(https://www.spin.ph/basketball/marc-pingris-named-as-pilipinas-super-league-commissioner-a2437-20220122)

Another interesting venture from Pinoy Sakuragi, not sure if there's any conflict between PBA and this new league.

Just assuming if there's certain conflict, Pingris will think twice before accepting the job, we already discuss the reasons why

he didn't play with MPBL, maybe that will be that same reason in case this Pilipinas Super League will be a direct competitor of PBA

He needs to set things up, or just like how you think about it, maybe PBA is supporting this league..
I'm not sure about the conflict but I think there's none. What I'm thinking is that, are they worried about the rise of different leagues in our country? MPBL has already been said as a pro-league. What if the others will follow too? Where are the PBA players are going? if not with B League then for sure they're coming after for these rising leagues. And knowing that these new rising leagues has professional players too that came from PBA, they have a backup that these leagues would be also big someday.

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Last time, there was a discussion about Mark Pingris going to be a player of MPBL IIRC. Now, he's not just a player for another league but higher than that and that's being a commissioner on the Pilipinas Super League. Isn't it a threat for the PBA with the launch of different leagues in our country? or they're supporting it and has no problems with it?
(https://www.spin.ph/basketball/marc-pingris-named-as-pilipinas-super-league-commissioner-a2437-20220122)

Another interesting venture from Pinoy Sakuragi, not sure if there's any conflict between PBA and this new league.

Just assuming if there's certain conflict, Pingris will think twice before accepting the job, we already discuss the reasons why

he didn't play with MPBL, maybe that will be that same reason in case this Pilipinas Super League will be a direct competitor of PBA

He needs to set things up, or just like how you think about it, maybe PBA is supporting this league..
I'm not sure about the conflict but I think there's none. What I'm thinking is that, are they worried about the rise of different leagues in our country? MPBL has already been said as a pro-league. What if the others will follow too? Where are the PBA players are going? if not with B League then for sure they're coming after for these rising leagues. And knowing that these new rising leagues has professional players too that came from PBA, they have a backup that these leagues would be also big someday.

The time will come that PBA will have a tough competitor and with good competition in the market, I expect that the PBA will improve and maybe they'll start accepting new teams to be part of the league, that would be better for better competition and the season will take longer than the current set up.

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January 26, 2022, 10:15:52 PM
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I'm not sure about the conflict but I think there's none. What I'm thinking is that, are they worried about the rise of different leagues in our country? MPBL has already been said as a pro-league. What if the others will follow too? Where are the PBA players are going? if not with B League then for sure they're coming after for these rising leagues. And knowing that these new rising leagues has professional players too that came from PBA, they have a backup that these leagues would be also big someday.

The time will come that PBA will have a tough competitor and with good competition in the market, I expect that the PBA will improve and maybe they'll start accepting new teams to be part of the league, that would be better for better competition and the season will take longer than the current set up.
But it seems that they're not doing something about it and by the way they're planning things, they might just realize it when fans are jumping over the other leagues.
I guess when the pandemic's done or neutralized, these leagues are going to do something aggressive with their marketing to let the basketball fans that there are other leagues that exist. One problem in PBA, is they are not allowing new teams and franchises to get in even if a lot of teams have applied for.

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January 26, 2022, 10:29:33 PM
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NLEX and Gin kings are hot, but we know both TNT and SMB are both capable of chasing the title.

We will see which team will excel and advance to the next round.. Tongue Roll Eyes


We will know in the elimination, most likely the NLEX will get a twice-to-beat advantage, and against a lower seed team, they will probably succeed.  The rule of the import in this conference is very vital, and NLEX are lucky to have a great import that could compete with the best import like Brownlee.

Big factor is the import and that's why I mentioned the Gin kings because of their familiarities together, Brownlee is capable to bring them back to the finals, but it's too early to conclude there are many competitive teams that both NLEX and Gin kings need to beat before they can climb and compete for the title series.

I want them if possible to face each other, Pangilinan and Cojuangco  Grin Roll Eyes


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January 26, 2022, 11:59:18 PM
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NLEX and Gin kings are hot, but we know both TNT and SMB are both capable of chasing the title.

We just have to hope that everything will go back smoothly now.

Just last week although I can't find the link, I have read that there's also a consideration wherein the Governors Cup will be pushed but without the imports as these guys also have a business to take care and these delays are making their schedule in jeopardy.

It's been a while that we see a not usual team on the top of the standing that's why I like to see where's the dominance of NLEX this Governor's Cup will end up.

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January 27, 2022, 06:42:25 AM
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If I'm not mistaken, practices are still limited to 5-10 guys on the court? Am I right?

The rotations would be bad but at least teams are getting practices. Imports needs this as they didn't know well the performance of his teammates.

Unfortunately, the set-up of practices are only limited to 7 people together with their head coach and 1 safety officer. So, only the first 5 players including the imports can do that said practice, sure their rotations won't be as great than what they're used to but they don't have any choice as group workouts are still limited in numbers. Also, they're only given 10 days worth of practice before the games resume.
This is why the main players should have more exposure on the practice so they can be good in court but of course I’m pretty sure other players are also given a time to practice since they are part of the team and if things didn’t go the right way, they are the one to fill the blanks. Its good to hear that PBA already have a schedule to resume the conference, wishing for a smooth comeback.


They needed to have that practices too, but main gunners are the priorities for now, it's just more than a week and we will see PBA
back in action. With the preparations coming from all the teams, we will expect some new playing styles, though it's not the same
as the last time due to this omicron, but knowing that they are back and resume, the games are more than okay.

NLEX and Gin kings are hot, but we know both TNT and SMB are both capable of chasing the title.

We will see which team will excel and advance to the next round.. Tongue Roll Eyes


Local main players do need some practice for a good rotation and rhythm when the season resumes, that said, imports also need to the practice to know the capabilities and strengths in their respective team. There's nothing really to expect as of now because their practices aren't  the same as they used to. But yes, as long as we can see them back in action again is what matters the most.

We can conclude that TNT and SMB are tough but there's some other teams too who could show some improvements too, somehow it's early to predict things. We'll just see it soon.

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January 27, 2022, 11:33:57 AM
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We can conclude that TNT and SMB are tough but there's some other teams too who could show some improvements too, somehow it's early to predict things. We'll just see it soon.

Don't forget about the Ginebra San Miguel,  they are still doing well under Brownlee as their import.

We have TNT and NLEX vs SMB vs BGSM.. these are good teams and one of them could win a championship if the conference will continue.  Also, not counting out the Hotshots, another great team but they are not in my top list though.



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January 27, 2022, 12:55:26 PM
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NLEX and Gin kings are hot, but we know both TNT and SMB are both capable of chasing the title.

We just have to hope that everything will go back smoothly now.

Just last week although I can't find the link, I have read that there's also a consideration wherein the Governors Cup will be pushed but without the imports as these guys also have a business to take care and these delays are making their schedule in jeopardy.

It's been a while that we see a not usual team on the top of the standing that's why I like to see where's the dominance of NLEX this Governor's Cup will end up.

Have not read that but i think imports can play as the resumption of games would be on the first Sunday of February and no word yet from the PBA that imports are not allowed to play for the time being.

With the "unrestricted free agent" rule in effect, SMC and MVP teams will become stronger as free agents main priority is to sign with those teams, last option for them is to sign with low tier teams if no offer from strong teams.

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NLEX and Gin kings are hot, but we know both TNT and SMB are both capable of chasing the title.

We just have to hope that everything will go back smoothly now.

Just last week although I can't find the link, I have read that there's also a consideration wherein the Governors Cup will be pushed but without the imports as these guys also have a business to take care and these delays are making their schedule in jeopardy.

It's been a while that we see a not usual team on the top of the standing that's why I like to see where's the dominance of NLEX this Governor's Cup will end up.

Have not read that but i think imports can play as the resumption of games would be on the first Sunday of February and no word yet from the PBA that imports are not allowed to play for the time being.

With the "unrestricted free agent" rule in effect, SMC and MVP teams will become stronger as free agents main priority is to sign with those teams, last option for them is to sign with low tier teams if no offer from strong teams.

But isn't it final already that they will resume next month on the 1st week?

No import, I think it's not exciting, however, I would just accept it as it's better to have that than no PBA at all.
I hope there's no more changes and we will finally see the return of the PBA conference, I think it's almost a month already since it was stopped.

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