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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 15 (45.5%)
SMB - 7 (21.2%)
Magnolia Hotshots - 4 (12.1%)
Talk and Text - 6 (18.2%)
Phoenix Fuel Masters - 1 (3%)
Total Voters: 33

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February 26, 2022, 03:18:55 PM
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He is not an NBA player anymore and though he played many seasons in the NBA but his stats is not something be worried of if you are on the other teams.
We can check his entire basketball record ; https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/muhamsh01.html

I need to see his first game to decide and conclude if he can really be a big thing for the team.

For sure, SMB are happy but what is written in the paper could be different in the actual game, so let's see.
I'm a SMB fan but I don't know what to say with the import exchange that they did. Not happy though.
Johnson played well in their last games and he put up huge points in their wins so I don't know the reason why they need to change imports where the chemistry is already there. Just because he is an ex-NBA player that's why they changed Johnson?

I agree with what you said that lets see how he will perform in maybe his first 2 games before judging if he is a good fit for the team or not. Lets not set aside too that he also got an ACL tear in 2019 causing him to be waived in the CBA. I'm not saying that he might get it again but there is still a chance (hope not though). I'll watch his debut game tomorrow against the top-seeded Magnolia. If they defeated them then maybe we can say that he is better than Johnson. He is a legitimate scorer when he is playing in CBA though and there is one season where he averages almost 30 PPG.

SMB is probably looking for an import that could compete well with the imports of other teams, based on the record of Shabazz, we can see that he can compete as he also play good minutes when he was still in the NBA. This isn't an NBA so the competition is easier, so I expect that the new import will give the expectation of the management and SMB will be at the top 3 in the standing.

As per current standing, SMB is only ranked at number 5 from the top.
https://pba.ph/standings

If the team is showing good when the new import was in. I think we must support them, even though their import not just a good scorer for now, for sure their import has in stage of adapting his team and if we will get wild in court I think he has a chance to compete other good imports in PBA like justice brownlee and other good imports.

SMB change their import because they are not satisfied with the performance, and the new import compared to Brownlee, I think Shabazz is better based on his record since he played in the NBA for several seasons, so the expectation is really high especially that he landed in SMB which is the best team in the PBA IMO.

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February 26, 2022, 03:40:07 PM
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He is not an NBA player anymore and though he played many seasons in the NBA but his stats is not something be worried of if you are on the other teams.
We can check his entire basketball record ; https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/muhamsh01.html

I need to see his first game to decide and conclude if he can really be a big thing for the team.

For sure, SMB are happy but what is written in the paper could be different in the actual game, so let's see.
I'm a SMB fan but I don't know what to say with the import exchange that they did. Not happy though.
Johnson played well in their last games and he put up huge points in their wins so I don't know the reason why they need to change imports where the chemistry is already there. Just because he is an ex-NBA player that's why they changed Johnson?

I agree with what you said that lets see how he will perform in maybe his first 2 games before judging if he is a good fit for the team or not. Lets not set aside too that he also got an ACL tear in 2019 causing him to be waived in the CBA. I'm not saying that he might get it again but there is still a chance (hope not though). I'll watch his debut game tomorrow against the top-seeded Magnolia. If they defeated them then maybe we can say that he is better than Johnson. He is a legitimate scorer when he is playing in CBA though and there is one season where he averages almost 30 PPG.

SMB is probably looking for an import that could compete well with the imports of other teams, based on the record of Shabazz, we can see that he can compete as he also play good minutes when he was still in the NBA. This isn't an NBA so the competition is easier, so I expect that the new import will give the expectation of the management and SMB will be at the top 3 in the standing.

As per current standing, SMB is only ranked at number 5 from the top.
https://pba.ph/standings

If the team is showing good when the new import was in. I think we must support them, even though their import not just a good scorer for now, for sure their import has in stage of adapting his team and if we will get wild in court I think he has a chance to compete other good imports in PBA like justice brownlee and other good imports.

SMB change their import because they are not satisfied with the performance, and the new import compared to Brownlee, I think Shabazz is better based on his record since he played in the NBA for several seasons, so the expectation is really high especially that he landed in SMB which is the best team in the PBA IMO.
Yes you are right that Shabazz is a good player as well and has a lot of time e played in NBA for several season and that's the reason why san Miguel beer will choose him as a import in this governors cup.Shabazz has a good backgrounds During his NBA time and other called him a veteran and for sure SMB had a good choice hoping that this import will bring them to championship game.

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February 26, 2022, 04:35:33 PM
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SMB had a good choice hoping that this import will bring them to championship game.
They have to prove it first before the elimination, they need to keep winning and beat the teams who are currently at the top. Shabazz can be good but basketball is not a one-man game, he needs his teammates to support him and I hope this import is as hard-working as the import of Northport who are willing to play 48 minutes without substitution.
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February 26, 2022, 04:42:01 PM
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Yes you are right that Shabazz is a good player as well and has a lot of time e played in NBA for several season and that's the reason why san Miguel beer will choose him as a import in this governors cup.Shabazz has a good backgrounds During his NBA time and other called him a veteran and for sure SMB had a good choice hoping that this import will bring them to championship game.

SMB is taking this matter seriously, changing import means additional money. They are not satisfied with their last import and bringing an NBA pro means they are really chasing for this season's title. Big expectations and we will see if Shabazz will make things possible for the Beermen to win this year's crown.

Too early though and lots of teams are also doing a better competitions, aside from those known franchises who keep on losing
Without doing anything with their franchise. Tongue Roll Eyes

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February 26, 2022, 10:34:06 PM
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Yes you are right that Shabazz is a good player as well and has a lot of time e played in NBA for several season and that's the reason why san Miguel beer will choose him as a import in this governors cup.Shabazz has a good backgrounds During his NBA time and other called him a veteran and for sure SMB had a good choice hoping that this import will bring them to championship game.

SMB is taking this matter seriously, changing import means additional money. They are not satisfied with their last import and bringing an NBA pro means they are really chasing for this season's title. Big expectations and we will see if Shabazz will make things possible for the Beermen to win this year's crown.

Too early though and lots of teams are also doing a better competitions, aside from those known franchises who keep on losing
Without doing anything with their franchise. Tongue Roll Eyes

I agree with you, SMB is pretty serious on their campaign in this conference. Johnson is doing good on their last two games but still they are bringing in Shabazz to replace him.

Have seen a video clip of Shabazz where he scored 60 points in a game in CBA, this man is pretty impressive that may be the reason why they are bringing him in.

SMB ML @2.08 vs Magnolia, the Beermen are the slight underdog so it is a good bet knowing that Abueva will not going to play because of injury, high chance that SMB would win this one.
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Still, I'm waiting for which team will lost to this Blackwater team. I'm very excited to see it Cheesy.

No team will lose in Blackwater. Blackwater is doing great in maintaining the hardest record in the PBA and in the whole world. I believed they are dedicated to maintaining and improving that record.

There will be more losses to come at this team. No one can change it.

Go BlackWater!
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February 27, 2022, 02:58:08 AM
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Still, I'm waiting for which team will lose to this Blackwater team. I'm very excited to see it Cheesy.

No team will lose in Blackwater. Blackwater is doing great in maintaining the hardest record in the PBA and the whole world. I believed they are dedicated to maintaining and improving that record.

There will be more losses to come at this team. No one can change it.

Go BlackWater!

If the team will be defeated by Blackwater I think they give a chance to a black water team:Smiley cause in what blackwater experiences right now is the hardest situation by a team even a single win they not got but in there all game has a loss.
I think that's the climax of the story of black water if they win against their future games but if they will still loss and no single win in the whole conference I think they build an history in the world of PBA.

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February 27, 2022, 06:20:38 AM
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Still, I'm waiting for which team will lose to this Blackwater team. I'm very excited to see it Cheesy.

No team will lose in Blackwater. Blackwater is doing great in maintaining the hardest record in the PBA and the whole world. I believed they are dedicated to maintaining and improving that record.

There will be more losses to come at this team. No one can change it.

Go BlackWater!

If the team will be defeated by Blackwater I think they give a chance to a black water team:Smiley cause in what blackwater experiences right now is the hardest situation by a team even a single win they not got but in there all game has a loss.
I think that's the climax of the story of black water if they win against their future games but if they will still loss and no single win in the whole conference I think they build an history in the world of PBA.

Blackwater seemed like a non existing team in the PBA now, any game they are in, it's an automatic loss for them because they got used to losing and forget how to win already.

We have 2 games today.

1st game ; Ginebra vs DIYP and 2nd game is Magnolia vs Beermen, probably the debut of Shabazz in this game.

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February 27, 2022, 07:31:17 AM
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We have 2 games today.

1st game ; Ginebra vs DIYP and 2nd game is Magnolia vs Beermen, probably the debut of Shabazz in this game.

I got SMB here, Shabazz is a quality import and I'm expecting a big win by the SMB against the Magnolia although they are the number 1 team right now. I even like that because the odds would be attractive.

By the way, I saw this odds, seems like Philippines has a game now against New Zealand, they are the underdog so it should be a good bet.
https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/basketball/international/world-cup-qualification-asia-oceania/new-zealand-vs-philippines-621a07963db81a3c2587883e

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February 27, 2022, 07:39:35 AM
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We have 2 games today.

1st game ; Ginebra vs DIYP and 2nd game is Magnolia vs Beermen, probably the debut of Shabazz in this game.

I got SMB here, Shabazz is a quality import and I'm expecting a big win by the SMB against the Magnolia although they are the number 1 team right now. I even like that because the odds would be attractive.
The odds is 1.91 for SMB.. that's a good odds to take if you really believe that SMB is going to have a big win.


By the way, I saw this odds, seems like Philippines has a game now against New Zealand, they are the underdog so it should be a good bet.
https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/basketball/international/world-cup-qualification-asia-oceania/new-zealand-vs-philippines-621a07963db81a3c2587883e
I saw the highlights of this New Zealand team, they have plenty of tall players, so it's going to be the battle of height and speed, if Gilas will take advantage on the Speed, then they can get an upset here.

The handicap is +10.5 Gilas and 5.00 for moneyline.

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February 27, 2022, 11:31:34 AM
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The new import of SMB is producing but the team lacks chemistry.

Pau Lee is leading the Magnolia with this hot shooting, if they cannot defend him in the 2nd half, most likely SMB will lose and Shabazz's debut will be ruined. Would you take SMB now with a good odds? check now the live betting on your favorite betting sites.

57-44 is the score anyway.



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February 27, 2022, 12:11:40 PM
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The new import of SMB is producing but the team lacks chemistry.

Pau Lee is leading the Magnolia with this hot shooting, if they cannot defend him in the 2nd half, most likely SMB will lose and Shabazz's debut will be ruined. Would you take SMB now with a good odds? check now the live betting on your favorite betting sites.

57-44 is the score anyway.
Magnolia is on a good lead as of posting at the score of 81 - 62, Magnolia is really working good as a team.

I'm just sad to see SMB, struggling with their free throws and a lot of turn over, the third quarter is for Magnolia.
I can see Magnolia to win today, but there are still chance for SMB if they will work harder in the last quarter that lead can still beat they just have to play patiently and have a good plays.
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February 27, 2022, 12:34:00 PM
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The new import of SMB is producing but the team lacks chemistry.

Pau Lee is leading the Magnolia with this hot shooting, if they cannot defend him in the 2nd half, most likely SMB will lose and Shabazz's debut will be ruined. Would you take SMB now with a good odds? check now the live betting on your favorite betting sites.

57-44 is the score anyway.
Magnolia is on a good lead as of posting at the score of 81 - 62, Magnolia is really working good as a team.

I'm just sad to see SMB, struggling with their free throws and a lot of turn over, the third quarter is for Magnolia.
I can see Magnolia to win today, but there are still chance for SMB if they will work harder in the last quarter that lead can still beat they just have to play patiently and have a good plays.

Looks like the expectation is too high for the SMB now that they have a new import, as I'm seeing, Magnolia has moved the ball very well making everyone contribute, it is just too smooth for them while the SMB struggles to make points. I hope that will not frustrate them going forward, also Romeo was not playing like he usually does, lots of tuning that needs to be done for this team.

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February 27, 2022, 12:44:04 PM
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Looks like the expectation is too high for the SMB now that they have a new import, as I'm seeing, Magnolia has moved the ball very well making everyone contribute, it is just too smooth for them while the SMB struggles to make points. I hope that will not frustrate them going forward, also Romeo was not playing like he usually does, lots of tuning that needs to be done for this team.

We can't blame the people who has high expectations for this new import of SMB. Imagine, they have replaced Johnson who have won them two consecutive games after that debut lose. Johnson at this time have jelled well with the locals of SMB but still he replaced him because Muhammad's basketball resume is hard to pass up.

Though they lose this one, there is still time to catch up as they are still in the middle of the standings but they should win their remaining games so to avoid complications of a quotient system.
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February 27, 2022, 09:52:05 PM
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Looks like the expectation is too high for the SMB now that they have a new import, as I'm seeing, Magnolia has moved the ball very well making everyone contribute, it is just too smooth for them while the SMB struggles to make points. I hope that will not frustrate them going forward, also Romeo was not playing like he usually does, lots of tuning that needs to be done for this team.

We can't blame the people who has high expectations for this new import of SMB. Imagine, they have replaced Johnson who have won them two consecutive games after that debut lose. Johnson at this time have jelled well with the locals of SMB but still he replaced him because Muhammad's basketball resume is hard to pass up.

Though they lose this one, there is still time to catch up as they are still in the middle of the standings but they should win their remaining games so to avoid complications of a quotient system.
There’s always a high expectations from the imports, their purpose is to lead the team because they are consider as a best player, so we cannot blame people from expecting too much from SMB and their imports. Local players should really help their imports and play as a team, SMB is known for this maybe they just need more playing time together, better luck next time SMB its better to bounce back and stay on the elimination round.
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February 27, 2022, 09:57:52 PM
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Looks like the expectation is too high for the SMB now that they have a new import, as I'm seeing, Magnolia has moved the ball very well making everyone contribute, it is just too smooth for them while the SMB struggles to make points. I hope that will not frustrate them going forward, also Romeo was not playing like he usually does, lots of tuning that needs to be done for this team.

We can't blame the people who has high expectations for this new import of SMB. Imagine, they have replaced Johnson who have won them two consecutive games after that debut lose. Johnson at this time have jelled well with the locals of SMB but still he replaced him because Muhammad's basketball resume is hard to pass up.

Though they lose this one, there is still time to catch up as they are still in the middle of the standings but they should win their remaining games so to avoid complications of a quotient system.
There’s always a high expectations from the imports, their purpose is to lead the team because they are consider as a best player, so we cannot blame people from expecting too much from SMB and their imports. Local players should really help their imports and play as a team, SMB is known for this maybe they just need more playing time together, better luck next time SMB its better to bounce back and stay on the elimination round.
Magnolia plays better, this is clear to me and they don’t rely too much on their import, they work as a team and the result is very great for them. With regards to SMB, they have no good plays and so much turn overs, we can understand that their new import is still finding his rhythm, so better for a local players to step up. Well, better for SMB to move on right away, and do better on their next game.
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February 27, 2022, 11:02:00 PM
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Looks like the expectation is too high for the SMB now that they have a new import, as I'm seeing, Magnolia has moved the ball very well making everyone contribute, it is just too smooth for them while the SMB struggles to make points. I hope that will not frustrate them going forward, also Romeo was not playing like he usually does, lots of tuning that needs to be done for this team.

We can't blame the people who has high expectations for this new import of SMB. Imagine, they have replaced Johnson who have won them two consecutive games after that debut lose. Johnson at this time have jelled well with the locals of SMB but still he replaced him because Muhammad's basketball resume is hard to pass up.

Though they lose this one, there is still time to catch up as they are still in the middle of the standings but they should win their remaining games so to avoid complications of a quotient system.

And the current memes I saw after that SMB losing last night is, they need to hire 2 imports lol.

Moving forward, that one loss won't be the reason to think that SMB does have a problem. Let's see their performance in about 2-3 games before others can write a conclusion about them. Surely, they will have a sure playoff sit but the worst is, they might face a twice-to-beat disadvantage on their way which the team is not used to playing to.

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Still, I'm waiting for which team will lose to this Blackwater team. I'm very excited to see it Cheesy.

No team will lose in Blackwater. Blackwater is doing great in maintaining the hardest record in the PBA and the whole world. I believed they are dedicated to maintaining and improving that record.

There will be more losses to come at this team. No one can change it.

Go BlackWater!

If the team will be defeated by Blackwater I think they give a chance to a black water team:Smiley cause in what blackwater experiences right now is the hardest situation by a team even a single win they not got but in there all game has a loss.
I think that's the climax of the story of black water if they win against their future games but if they will still loss and no single win in the whole conference I think they build an history in the world of PBA.

As I said before, BlackWater will maintain their biggest record this season.

Seriously, the only time they will get a win is if they won't give up their good role players that showing some improvement now. Being in the lowest standing, they will also have a ticket in getting a good first-round pick every draft period.

They should also involved in big trades although it needs big money.
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February 28, 2022, 12:22:10 AM
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And the current memes I saw after that SMB losing last night is, they need to hire 2 imports lol.

Moving forward, that one loss won't be the reason to think that SMB does have a problem. Let's see their performance in about 2-3 games before others can write a conclusion about them. Surely, they will have a sure playoff sit but the worst is, they might face a twice-to-beat disadvantage on their way which the team is not used to playing to.

Hahaha..Before the Meme for this team is they do always have 2 imports because of JMF, now they are the one who's being trolled by those fans who thinks that they are no longer the dominating team in this season, but like what you just said, it's not the conclusive part as the import just got in and the players are not performing the same level that they used, we may see more in their next upcoming games, the chance of rallying is how we mostly see to this team, they are very capable to upset anyone.

Once the chemistries start within them, we may see more wins and besides, magnolia is not an easy opponent. The team is on the top
not an excuse but reality wise they are also composed of great players who can bet anyone.. Roll Eyes Tongue

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February 28, 2022, 05:05:30 AM
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As I said before, BlackWater will maintain their biggest record this season.

Seriously, the only time they will get a win is if they won't give up their good role players that showing some improvement now. Being in the lowest standing, they will also have a ticket in getting a good first-round pick every draft period.

They should also involved in big trades although it needs big money.

They are involve with big trades and send the players to big franchise, a farm team like them won't win any games unless

they will listen to you. I don't know if they still have fans inside this league, from how they distribute rising talents and how they

play the game, it wasn't a PBA class of talents maybe even a selections of college stars can beat them. 

No improvement means no wins at all.
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