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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
Barangay Ginebra - 15 (45.5%)
SMB - 7 (21.2%)
Magnolia Hotshots - 4 (12.1%)
Talk and Text - 6 (18.2%)
Phoenix Fuel Masters - 1 (3%)
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July 24, 2022, 12:27:53 PM
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Is anyone here thinking of betting on Ginebra now?

They are down double digit and the odds are very attractive, what do you think?
I believe Ginebra is a strong team, they can come back even with a huge deficit and they are good in the 2nd half.

Have bet for Ginebra before the game started and as I have said in my post on our local board that this is a very risky bet as Meralco is a strong team and this is a conference where they don't have a Justine Brownlee that could score for them if they badly needed one, no go-to-guy.

A lot of time remaining and hope they will recover and win the first game of the series.

Still down double-digit, but there's still plenty of time and Ginebra is a never say die team so let's trust that they'll be able to make it a close game and good if they'll win there. Thompson is really doing his best here, hopefully, he will get big support in the 4th quarter, still possible for the Ginebra to win.

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July 24, 2022, 12:48:48 PM
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Is anyone here thinking of betting on Ginebra now?

They are down double digit and the odds are very attractive, what do you think?
I believe Ginebra is a strong team, they can come back even with a huge deficit and they are good in the 2nd half.

Have bet for Ginebra before the game started and as I have said in my post on our local board that this is a very risky bet as Meralco is a strong team and this is a conference where they don't have a Justine Brownlee that could score for them if they badly needed one, no go-to-guy.

A lot of time remaining and hope they will recover and win the first game of the series.

You are right, things are even getting worse, there's no way Ginebra can still come back in this game with less than 5 minutes left in the game only. Meralco having an 18 points lead, will certainly take this game. Congrats to the Meralco bettors, this is your night.  Smiley

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July 24, 2022, 06:06:05 PM
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Is anyone here thinking of betting on Ginebra now?

They are down double digit and the odds are very attractive, what do you think?
I believe Ginebra is a strong team, they can come back even with a huge deficit and they are good in the 2nd half.

Have bet for Ginebra before the game started and as I have said in my post on our local board that this is a very risky bet as Meralco is a strong team and this is a conference where they don't have a Justine Brownlee that could score for them if they badly needed one, no go-to-guy.

A lot of time remaining and hope they will recover and win the first game of the series.

You are right, things are even getting worse, there's no way Ginebra can still come back in this game with less than 5 minutes left in the game only. Meralco having an 18 points lead, will certainly take this game. Congrats to the Meralco bettors, this is your night.  Smiley

Meralco take all the advantage and they did not give any hope for Ginebra to bounce back, it's really a dominant game for Meralco in each quarter they take the good lead and maintain it, there's nothing that Ginebra did that Meralco didn't counter. The attempt of rallying back is not for Ginebra, Meralco take this game 1 and we will expect a more exciting game between these two rivals.

Congrats Meralco supporters, a good win for you all.

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July 24, 2022, 08:59:55 PM
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I think Ginebra vs Meralco will be the toughest series at all games that are currently playing in the quarterfinals. These teams are forming a new rivalry and are unfortunate to see that they meet right away in the quarterfinals. Should be great if they meet at semis but no way it will happen now.

Other series matches are almost predictable and it's like overkill although upsets are always bound to happen even at a slim chance.

Guess what, what if we will see on the news that BlackWater beats the top seed SMB here in the quarterfinals. Beating SMB twice is a tough job but who knows.

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July 24, 2022, 09:34:11 PM
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I think Ginebra vs Meralco will be the toughest series at all games that are currently playing in the quarterfinals. These teams are forming a new rivalry and are unfortunate to see that they meet right away in the quarterfinals. Should be great if they meet at semis but no way it will happen now.
This should be a great match up and probably an opportunity for Meralco to beat Ginebra but of course this will not an easy game for them as we all know, Ginebra is still a good team and they always like a contender for the title here. Meralco should think for a better strategy, and focus more because this will be one of their hardest games in order for them to reach the top. This is a good rivalry, and the fans really like this one.

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July 24, 2022, 10:34:16 PM
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This should be a great match up and probably an opportunity for Meralco to beat Ginebra but of course this will not an easy game for them as we all know, Ginebra is still a good team and they always like a contender for the title here. Meralco should think for a better strategy, and focus more because this will be one of their hardest games in order for them to reach the top. This is a good rivalry, and the fans really like this one.

Having a 1-win lead against one of the favorites in the league, Ginebra should be a big advantage for Meralco. An upset is also possible to happen.

In that game, some of Ginebra's main players and starters do have a good contributions but still lose to Meralco.

Meralco always wants revenge on Ginebra as they can't defeat this team in an import conference. Now that it's between the All-Filipino lineup, their chances of winning are likely in this series and put Ginebra on Boracay. Waiting for their next game.
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July 24, 2022, 10:59:57 PM
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This should be a great match up and probably an opportunity for Meralco to beat Ginebra but of course this will not an easy game for them as we all know, Ginebra is still a good team and they always like a contender for the title here. Meralco should think for a better strategy, and focus more because this will be one of their hardest games in order for them to reach the top. This is a good rivalry, and the fans really like this one.

I know Meralco likes to give Ginebra its bitter loss this quarterfinal. Knowing they can still play competitively in that game despite Ginebra's good run, and even winning at the end, might fuel their much better performance next game.

Ginebra's LA Tenorio mentioned that it's all about their poor defense that contributes mainly to their loss and Meralco takes advantage of it. It makes sense to point it out as there's not much big problem if we look at their point stats, at least for the entire starters. He also mentioned that if the series is a back-to-back game they might lose another game but since there is a several days before their next game, they can think of a good strategy and point out what are those wrong things they did in that game.

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July 25, 2022, 12:17:49 PM
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This should be a great match up and probably an opportunity for Meralco to beat Ginebra but of course this will not an easy game for them as we all know, Ginebra is still a good team and they always like a contender for the title here. Meralco should think for a better strategy, and focus more because this will be one of their hardest games in order for them to reach the top. This is a good rivalry, and the fans really like this one.

I know Meralco likes to give Ginebra its bitter loss this quarterfinal. Knowing they can still play competitively in that game despite Ginebra's good run, and even winning at the end, might fuel their much better performance next game.

Ginebra's LA Tenorio mentioned that it's all about their poor defense that contributes mainly to their loss and Meralco takes advantage of it. It makes sense to point it out as there's not much big problem if we look at their point stats, at least for the entire starters. He also mentioned that if the series is a back-to-back game they might lose another game but since there is a several days before their next game, they can think of a good strategy and point out what are those wrong things they did in that game.

They really need to think of a strategy to bounce back because that was a bad loss by the Ginebra. It's okay if it was close but what we are seeing is that Ginebra looks like the DYIP who can easily be dominated by a better team. Where's the never say die attitude, do you think they can still come back and win?

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July 25, 2022, 12:21:52 PM
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I think Ginebra vs Meralco will be the toughest series at all games that are currently playing in the quarterfinals. These teams are forming a new rivalry and are unfortunate to see that they meet right away in the quarterfinals. Should be great if they meet at semis but no way it will happen now.
This should be a great match up and probably an opportunity for Meralco to beat Ginebra but of course this will not an easy game for them as we all know, Ginebra is still a good team and they always like a contender for the title here. Meralco should think for a better strategy, and focus more because this will be one of their hardest games in order for them to reach the top. This is a good rivalry, and the fans really like this one.

Right, so far though Ginebra still has a good chance to avert an elimination next game. Of course, this has been rivalry already and definitely wanting to get this series even in the next game.

And as what LA said, (who unfortunately, goes scoreless), it was mainly their defense. So I'm expecting that they are going to be more physical in the next game. They will have a good rest before game 2 and make the adjustment.

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July 25, 2022, 12:24:26 PM
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I think Ginebra vs Meralco will be the toughest series at all games that are currently playing in the quarterfinals. These teams are forming a new rivalry and are unfortunate to see that they meet right away in the quarterfinals. Should be great if they meet at semis but no way it will happen now.
This should be a great match up and probably an opportunity for Meralco to beat Ginebra but of course this will not an easy game for them as we all know, Ginebra is still a good team and they always like a contender for the title here. Meralco should think for a better strategy, and focus more because this will be one of their hardest games in order for them to reach the top. This is a good rivalry, and the fans really like this one.

Right, so far though Ginebra still has a good chance to avert an elimination next game. Of course, this has been rivalry already and definitely wanting to get this series even in the next game.

And as what LA said, (who unfortunately, goes scoreless), it was mainly their defense. So I'm expecting that they are going to be more physical in the next game. They will have a good rest before game 2 and make the adjustment.

They are healthy, there's no reason for them not to win a game unless they were scouted well by the Meralco and have found their weakness. Ginebra is still a good team even in the All Filipino cup, having Japeth and Stand, I think they can dominate the paint.  I guess I will go under here, it should be an easy bet.



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July 25, 2022, 01:40:26 PM
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What a surprising outcome between the Ginebra and Meralco.

Will Ginebra be able to bounce back after that big loss? I think I'm going to bet on them all the way, if they will be a slight underdog, I don't mind taking the ML line. Do we have the advance line available already?

Tenorio being scoreless, I think that will not happen. if only there's a player prop in the PBA, I would definitely put a bet.

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July 25, 2022, 05:09:14 PM
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What a surprising outcome between the Ginebra and Meralco.

Will Ginebra be able to bounce back after that big loss? I think I'm going to bet on them all the way, if they will be a slight underdog, I don't mind taking the ML line. Do we have the advance line available already?

Tenorio being scoreless, I think that will not happen. if only there's a player prop in the PBA, I would definitely put a bet.


Me as well, it is a must win for them or they will be eliminated. Meralco might have the momentum, but knowing Ginebra, they will not disappoint their fans, they will do everything to bounce back. I don't see any line yet and if there's a spare coin from my wallet, I will
put some amount for them to win, either ML or handicap. If it's considerable, I will take that risk.

Let see what adjustments they will do to prevent being eliminated and to push this series to a deciding do-or-die game.

More excitement and expect good actions from Ginebra, all in for the fans who continue believing with them.

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July 25, 2022, 11:36:05 PM
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Will Ginebra be able to bounce back after that big loss? I think I'm going to bet on them all the way, if they will be a slight underdog, I don't mind taking the ML line.

Yes, bouncing back is always possible. For sure, they already know what to do and won't allow Meralco to take another win or else, goodbye.

Ginebra is used in playing pressure games already. Unusual to see LA Tenorio will have a bad night for 2 consecutive games.

While they are prepared next game, Meralco Bolts are also the same as well. The series is unpredictable.

What a surprising outcome between the Ginebra and Meralco.

Actually, it's not surprising. Ginebra is a beatable team and Meralco is not that totally an underdog. Don't mind the standings.
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July 25, 2022, 11:47:14 PM
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Will Ginebra be able to bounce back after that big loss? I think I'm going to bet on them all the way, if they will be a slight underdog, I don't mind taking the ML line. Do we have the advance line available already?

No available lines as of this typing. At least, when I checked it on my preferred sportsbook.

But one thing is for sure, don't expect that Ginebra will be a slight underdog. For sure Meralco will be the slight underdog and Ginebra is the favorite since they might possibly bounce back and will not allow Meralco to have another win.

My forecast is, Ginebra @1.7-@1.8, Meralco @1.9-@2.0

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July 26, 2022, 12:09:33 AM
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What a surprising outcome between the Ginebra and Meralco.

Will Ginebra be able to bounce back after that big loss? I think I'm going to bet on them all the way, if they will be a slight underdog, I don't mind taking the ML line. Do we have the advance line available already?

Tenorio being scoreless, I think that will not happen. if only there's a player prop in the PBA, I would definitely put a bet.

They should. They will be sent home if they will not do their best next game. Meralco on the other hand will be sent home too if they allow Ginebra to take over. The next game is important for both teams. That's the pressure in the quarterfinals, a win is a must. Compare to semis, where a win is a must too but in case of loss, there's still more chance to bounce back.

Meralco will be on hype if they eliminate the crowd favorite Ginebra. They will force to do it no matter what even referees will stand in their way lol.
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July 26, 2022, 11:05:34 AM
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What a surprising outcome between the Ginebra and Meralco.

Will Ginebra be able to bounce back after that big loss? I think I'm going to bet on them all the way, if they will be a slight underdog, I don't mind taking the ML line. Do we have the advance line available already?

Tenorio being scoreless, I think that will not happen. if only there's a player prop in the PBA, I would definitely put a bet.

They should. They will be sent home if they will not do their best next game. Meralco on the other hand will be sent home too if they allow Ginebra to take over. The next game is important for both teams. That's the pressure in the quarterfinals, a win is a must. Compare to semis, where a win is a must too but in case of loss, there's still more chance to bounce back.

Meralco will be on hype if they eliminate the crowd favorite Ginebra. They will force to do it no matter what even referees will stand in their way lol.

It's a best of 3 series, Ginebra has to beat Meralco twice if they want to advance in the semi Finals which is a best of 7 series.

Tomorrow we have SMB vs Bossing, SMB is an a twice to beat advantage, and we also have TNT vs converge which TNT has the edge.
Magnolia is the only team that is waiting for their opponent in the semi Finals.

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July 26, 2022, 11:40:37 AM
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I'm thinking, what if Ginebra will get eliminated early, I think the favorite to win the championship will be the SMB. Personally, I think Magnolia has a better shot than any other team, Fajardo is playing like his prime years but Magnolia can limit him while they continue their good defense.

For the games tomorrow, I got TNT and SMB winning.

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July 26, 2022, 12:56:46 PM
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I'm thinking, what if Ginebra will get eliminated early, I think the favorite to win the championship will be the SMB. Personally, I think Magnolia has a better shot than any other team, Fajardo is playing like his prime years but Magnolia can limit him while they continue their good defense.

For the games tomorrow, I got TNT and SMB winning.

Also thinking the same, Magnolia for me has the high percentage of beating San Miguel if ever they meet in the Finals because the Death Five of SMB doesn't exist anymore though Fajardo has his usual numbers back but he really needs the backup to complement his low-post play that i hope Jericho Cruz and CJ Perez would give. With the addition of Corpuz and Abueva, Magnolia is a scary team, Abueva just needs to be focused and disciplined all the time.

Blackwater almost won the game against SMB on their last matchup but i don't think it will be a close game tomorrow, so my pick is SMB -8.5.



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July 26, 2022, 01:56:27 PM
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I'm thinking, what if Ginebra will get eliminated early, I think the favorite to win the championship will be the SMB. Personally, I think Magnolia has a better shot than any other team, Fajardo is playing like his prime years but Magnolia can limit him while they continue their good defense.

For the games tomorrow, I got TNT and SMB winning.

Also thinking the same, Magnolia for me has the high percentage of beating San Miguel if ever they meet in the Finals because the Death Five of SMB doesn't exist anymore though Fajardo has his usual numbers back but he really needs the backup to complement his low-post play that i hope Jericho Cruz and CJ Perez would give. With the addition of Corpuz and Abueva, Magnolia is a scary team, Abueva just needs to be focused and disciplined all the time.

Blackwater almost won the game against SMB on their last matchup but i don't think it will be a close game tomorrow, so my pick is SMB -8.5.




Yes you are right that mate Magnolia has a good percentage of winning against the the kraken team SMB which is one of the though team in PBA as they are junmar Fajardo and his good teammates. But now there's a high chance that Magnolia van defeat SMB because as we all know jalalon, Lee sangalang abueva and most of the team are are dominant in the game with a good plan of the coach for sure they can.

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Also thinking the same, Magnolia for me has the high percentage of beating San Miguel if ever they meet in the Finals

We are on the same thinking that Magnolia so far might be the closest team who can compete with the SMB right now.

Remember when Alaska, where Calvin Abueva is still there, and SMB met in the Finals before, that's the time when SMB players are mostly in their prime. Alaska made it to the point of only needing 1 for the championship but Fajardo came back and they turned the situation in favor of them.

What I'm saying is, that Fajardo's backup cast was not present anymore, and compared with his current teammates, the before one is much better.

Talking about Abueva, he also has much better teammates today compare to during the time he faced SMB in the Finals.

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