2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup

[blockman]

Great news for SMB, now they have another option. JMF, Tautua, and Brondial, I guess they are not a joke, they'll dominate inside and they also have a lot of outside shooters, it's really a great pick up by SMB and a great choice for Brondial. I guess this is his 3rd team already in his PBA career.

Really great news and don't forget about Vic Manuel. He's also part of SMB now. And speaking of spin.ph on the quote, I've seen an article from them about how much the lowest salary of a PBA player gets. (https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/how-much-salary-do-the-lowest-paid-pba-players-make-ain-t-bad-at-all-a793-20190312)
The lowest gets paid for P70,000 which is still not bad in our country and it's still a great amount to be considered of having not that much playing.

That PHP70k for one month is good enough if you can live a simple life, but knowing PBA players, they think they are superstars and they have rich friends so their lifestyle might also change. Also, when you play you are prone to get injured, so a player has to work hard to improve his game to earn a better salary. I guess no one is getting at least 500k per month in PBA? even JMP I guess?

Those that are living a lavish life, well, I think 70k is still enough for them. But for someone who thinks of himself as a superstar with that salary, he shouldn't think of himself like that. AFAIK, the max cap for salary is 420k for any veteran and it's because of their PBA rule.
(https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/pba-study-group-proposes-lifting-of-salary-cap-on-rookies-a1374-20210629)

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[harizen]

The PBA made it clear that there will be no games this month as the number of cases is rising daily due to omnicron. They certainly didn't had a choice but to put an indefinite halt to the games even if would cost them money rather than risking the safety of peope and players.
This news may sadden us as we already expected that we can watch these said games live this year, but an unfortunate event happened.
Let's hope that these infections caused by omnicron will cease by February.

Unfortunate fuc*king things really happened and PBA was left with no choice. The Governors Cup might be canceled for good rather than suspend if no good changes will happen for the following days and weeks. If it takes too long, it will spoil the PBA timeline on which the All-Filipino Cup opening should be around March or something that since it's a new year, it will be a new season already.

If that happened, sadly we won't able to see the competition for the best imports at the Finals. Like to see NLEX on Semis or Finals for a change. It will be a sorry run for them as KJ McDaniels is playing at his best.

[goinmerry]

Since IATF is only referring to big numbers of cases rather than the condition, like most of the cases are mild, then no more sports event yet. Even the mild of the mild cases will be considered a threat. I understand though but the country can't afford anymore those limited restrictions. We can move forward even without these overrated restrictions like going in Level 4. Put a heavily strict on those hard-headed people that will not follow the safety protocol rather than limit people's activity because of these restrictions in Level 3 and possible level 4.

[LogitechMouse]

The PBA made it clear that there will be no games this month as the number of cases is rising daily due to omnicron. They certainly didn't had a choice but to put an indefinite halt to the games even if would cost them money rather than risking the safety of peope and players.
This news may sadden us as we already expected that we can watch these said games live this year, but an unfortunate event happened.
Let's hope that these infections caused by omnicron will cease by February.

Unfortunate fuc*king things really happened and PBA was left with no choice. The Governors Cup might be canceled for good rather than suspend if no good changes will happen for the following days and weeks. If it takes too long, it will spoil the PBA timeline on which the All-Filipino Cup opening should be around March or something that since it's a new year, it will be a new season already.

If that happened, sadly we won't able to see the competition for the best imports at the Finals. Like to see NLEX on Semis or Finals for a change. It will be a sorry run for them as KJ McDaniels is playing at his best.

It was a hard decision TBH by the Board because it is like they are in the same spot as 2020 when they just had one conference and its a bubble as well. They lost so much on that but at least they finished a season on that year still.

I think this is the better decision by the PBA management rather than just continuing the conference without thinking of the safety of their players. Regarding cancelling of Governor's Cup, I don't think it will happen unless they will decide to just stop it after a few weeks to months because I think this wave will last for a month or 2. TBH, I'm curious on what will happen with the Governor's Cup with what is happening right now especially the imports. Kinda unfortunate but it is what it is .

[mirakal]

The PBA made it clear that there will be no games this month as the number of cases is rising daily due to omnicron. They certainly didn't had a choice but to put an indefinite halt to the games even if would cost them money rather than risking the safety of peope and players.
This news may sadden us as we already expected that we can watch these said games live this year, but an unfortunate event happened.
Let's hope that these infections caused by omnicron will cease by February.

Unfortunate fuc*king things really happened and PBA was left with no choice. The Governors Cup might be canceled for good rather than suspend if no good changes will happen for the following days and weeks. If it takes too long, it will spoil the PBA timeline on which the All-Filipino Cup opening should be around March or something that since it's a new year, it will be a new season already.

If that happened, sadly we won't able to see the competition for the best imports at the Finals. Like to see NLEX on Semis or Finals for a change. It will be a sorry run for them as KJ McDaniels is playing at his best.

It was a hard decision TBH by the Board because it is like they are in the same spot as 2020 when they just had one conference and its a bubble as well. They lost so much on that but at least they finished a season on that year still.

I think this is the better decision by the PBA management rather than just continuing the conference without thinking of the safety of their players. Regarding cancelling of Governor's Cup, I don't think it will happen unless they will decide to just stop it after a few weeks to months because I think this wave will last for a month or 2. TBH, I'm curious on what will happen with the Governor's Cup with what is happening right now especially the imports. Kinda unfortunate but it is what it is .

They can cancel it and they have to bear with the losses, they paid a lot on the imports and the conference will only be canceled. I don't know what's their next move if eventually, they will make a decision of cancelling the season due to the omicron virus. As a fan, I will not expect so much because we are really in a serious problem as the cases is rising fast.

[Fredomago]

Since IATF is only referring to big numbers of cases rather than the condition, like most of the cases are mild, then no more sports event yet. Even the mild of the mild cases will be considered a threat. I understand though but the country can't afford anymore those limited restrictions. We can move forward even without these overrated restrictions like going in Level 4. Put a heavily strict on those hard-headed people that will not follow the safety protocol rather than limit people's activity because of these restrictions in Level 3 and possible level 4.

I see your point, but even this is not as deadly as how those previous covid but if you have co-morbidities; you are still in danger,
the virus can still trigger and take your life, not good for PBA to push things up and I really appreciated what step they take about this matter, money ain't the first priorities but the safety of everyone.. Keep safe!

[Rufsilf]

Since IATF is only referring to big numbers of cases rather than the condition, like most of the cases are mild, then no more sports event yet. Even the mild of the mild cases will be considered a threat. I understand though but the country can't afford anymore those limited restrictions. We can move forward even without these overrated restrictions like going in Level 4. Put a heavily strict on those hard-headed people that will not follow the safety protocol rather than limit people's activity because of these restrictions in Level 3 and possible level 4.

I see your point, but even this is not as deadly as how those previous covid but if you have co-morbidities; you are still in danger,
the virus can still trigger and take your life, not good for PBA to push things up and I really appreciated what step they take about this matter, money ain't the first priorities but the safety of everyone.. Keep safe!

Right! Also even if the PBA has been granted an exception by the IATF to resume its games, there's still no point to resume the games scheduled at some places like MOA Arena or Araneta Coliseum if people still can't buy the tickets and to see it live on scene. How could the league make some profit or atleast get the funds they released when they can't even sell some tickets.
This is the very best choice they've got and we can't expect some games soon as the cases continues to spike daily. So, it's safe to assume that there will an extension to this heightened restriction.

[freedomgo]

Since IATF is only referring to big numbers of cases rather than the condition, like most of the cases are mild, then no more sports event yet. Even the mild of the mild cases will be considered a threat. I understand though but the country can't afford anymore those limited restrictions. We can move forward even without these overrated restrictions like going in Level 4. Put a heavily strict on those hard-headed people that will not follow the safety protocol rather than limit people's activity because of these restrictions in Level 3 and possible level 4.

I see your point, but even this is not as deadly as how those previous covid but if you have co-morbidities; you are still in danger,
the virus can still trigger and take your life, not good for PBA to push things up and I really appreciated what step they take about this matter, money ain't the first priorities but the safety of everyone.. Keep safe!

Right! Also even if the PBA has been granted an exception by the IATF to resume its games, there's still no point to resume the games scheduled at some places like MOA Arena or Araneta Coliseum if people still can't buy the tickets and to see it live on scene. How could the league make some profit or atleast get the funds they released when they can't even sell some tickets.
This is the very best choice they've got and we can't expect some games soon as the cases continues to spike daily. So, it's safe to assume that there will an extension to this heightened restriction.

They have done this in the past, there are no ticket sales because it's a bubble set up, in terms of making a revenue, I think it's still possible as there are sponsors like an advertisement, however, it's not that big as they will make when there's a crowd allowed. IMO, they have the capacity to continue and just bear the loses because this league is run by rich people, the SMB corporations and Pangilianan's companies are the richest in the country.

[Yamifoud]

Great news for SMB, now they have another option. JMF, Tautua, and Brondial, I guess they are not a joke, they'll dominate inside and they also have a lot of outside shooters, it's really a great pick up by SMB and a great choice for Brondial. I guess this is his 3rd team already in his PBA career.

Really great news and don't forget about Vic Manuel. He's also part of SMB now. And speaking of spin.ph on the quote, I've seen an article from them about how much the lowest salary of a PBA player gets. (https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/how-much-salary-do-the-lowest-paid-pba-players-make-ain-t-bad-at-all-a793-20190312)
The lowest gets paid for P70,000 which is still not bad in our country and it's still a great amount to be considered of having not that much playing.

That PHP70k for one month is good enough if you can live a simple life, but knowing PBA players, they think they are superstars and they have rich friends so their lifestyle might also change. Also, when you play you are prone to get injured, so a player has to work hard to improve his game to earn a better salary. I guess no one is getting at least 500k per month in PBA? even JMP I guess?

Those that are living a lavish life, well, I think 70k is still enough for them. But for someone who thinks of himself as a superstar with that salary, he shouldn't think of himself like that. AFAIK, the max cap for salary is 420k for any veteran and it's because of their PBA rule.
(https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/pba-study-group-proposes-lifting-of-salary-cap-on-rookies-a1374-20210629)

But probably they'll earn more if they are consistent in the Finals and of course more if they win the Finals. So maybe some players prefer to stay in the PBA despite the huge offers outside because they might be assured of their security in the future rather than playing outside where a player could only get a short term contract and of course high pressure since they are one of the imports.

[goaldigger]

But probably they'll earn more if they are consistent in the Finals and of course more if they win the Finals. So maybe some players prefer to stay in the PBA despite the huge offers outside because they might be assured of their security in the future rather than playing outside where a player could only get a short term contract and of course high pressure since they are one of the imports.

This could be scenario and that’s why every team is doing their best to go the finals since it is more rewarding for them to reach that position and also that could boost their morale. Some players are not allowed to play to other league though, that’s why they are staying with PBA and of course if they leave, they might not be able to join again. When this lockdown ends, hoping to see more new players to come in PBA.

[Viscore]

But probably they'll earn more if they are consistent in the Finals and of course more if they win the Finals. So maybe some players prefer to stay in the PBA despite the huge offers outside because they might be assured of their security in the future rather than playing outside where a player could only get a short term contract and of course high pressure since they are one of the imports.

This could be scenario and that’s why every team is doing their best to go the finals since it is more rewarding for them to reach that position and also that could boost their morale. Some players are not allowed to play to other league though, that’s why they are staying with PBA and of course if they leave, they might not be able to join again. When this lockdown ends, hoping to see more new players to come in PBA.

That's always the scenario, every season there are new players added in the PBA as they are drafting players, but those players who are playing with Japan's B-League, I guess it will take time before they can come back especially if they are playing well in that league as the salary gap is very huge, they'll prefer to stay for sure.

[bisdak40]

But probably they'll earn more if they are consistent in the Finals and of course more if they win the Finals. So maybe some players prefer to stay in the PBA despite the huge offers outside because they might be assured of their security in the future rather than playing outside where a player could only get a short term contract and of course high pressure since they are one of the imports.

This could be scenario and that’s why every team is doing their best to go the finals since it is more rewarding for them to reach that position and also that could boost their morale. Some players are not allowed to play to other league though, that’s why they are staying with PBA and of course if they leave, they might not be able to join again. When this lockdown ends, hoping to see more new players to come in PBA.

The Philippines will lose some talents to other leagues who offers hefty amount that a youngster would find it difficult to say no, but not all are privileged enough or talented enough to receive such offer and yes, the pressure is there to perform on their best as they are the import and local players are dependent on them as they received huge amount of money.

About this Japan B-League issue, i think it is down to only one player who is controversial and rumored to play in Japan, that is Robert Bolick but that is still a rumor until he signs with a Japanese team.

Some players will also go back to the Philippines as their contracts were not renewed so not all is lost for the PBA in this scenario.

[LogitechMouse]

But probably they'll earn more if they are consistent in the Finals and of course more if they win the Finals. So maybe some players prefer to stay in the PBA despite the huge offers outside because they might be assured of their security in the future rather than playing outside where a player could only get a short term contract and of course high pressure since they are one of the imports.

Aside from the salary that they are getting in the PBA, for sure they also have benefits that they are getting with the team.
I think another reason why some players are choosing to stay here is because of their family and their security like you said. There are some PBA players out there who chooses to stay with their family rather than leaving them at least they will earn money here and at the same time they are with their family and for me, nothing is better than living beside your family even though the salary is lower compare to other leagues outside PH.

Some players will also go back to the Philippines as their contracts were not renewed so not all is lost for the PBA in this scenario.

I agree with this as well.
Not all PH players in Japan will play there for the rest of their career. Most or all of them will definitely return to PH to play basketball and at that time, they also got new experiences that they got from playing outside PH which might get adopted in PBA or any other leagues. In the end, PBA will benefit somehow from these players who played abroad.

[carlisle1]

But probably they'll earn more if they are consistent in the Finals and of course more if they win the Finals. So maybe some players prefer to stay in the PBA despite the huge offers outside because they might be assured of their security in the future rather than playing outside where a player could only get a short term contract and of course high pressure since they are one of the imports.

This could be scenario and that’s why every team is doing their best to go the finals since it is more rewarding for them to reach that position and also that could boost their morale. Some players are not allowed to play to other league though, that’s why they are staying with PBA and of course if they leave, they might not be able to join again. When this lockdown ends, hoping to see more new players to come in PBA.

That's always the scenario, every season there are new players added in the PBA as they are drafting players, but those players who are playing with Japan's B-League, I guess it will take time before they can come back especially if they are playing well in that league as the salary gap is very huge, they'll prefer to stay for sure.

I agree, they will prefer to stay if another contract will present for them, the amount of salaries is far higher than what they can get from PBA.

Though some of those alleged stars that have good offers did choose to stay, maybe there are more perks or under the table offer to convince them

to stay on their respective teams.

Or, they have another reason behind that's why they choose to continue playing inside this league and forget about the huge amount of salary

the B-League is providing for them..

[Johnyz]

But probably they'll earn more if they are consistent in the Finals and of course more if they win the Finals. So maybe some players prefer to stay in the PBA despite the huge offers outside because they might be assured of their security in the future rather than playing outside where a player could only get a short term contract and of course high pressure since they are one of the imports.

This could be scenario and that’s why every team is doing their best to go the finals since it is more rewarding for them to reach that position and also that could boost their morale. Some players are not allowed to play to other league though, that’s why they are staying with PBA and of course if they leave, they might not be able to join again. When this lockdown ends, hoping to see more new players to come in PBA.

That's always the scenario, every season there are new players added in the PBA as they are drafting players, but those players who are playing with Japan's B-League, I guess it will take time before they can come back especially if they are playing well in that league as the salary gap is very huge, they'll prefer to stay for sure.

Even if we are a better country compare to Japan, many of our local players still choose to play there and simply because the offer is too good to decline, beside PBA is full of politics most of the time, and we cannot blame those players who chooses to play abroad. PBA should not be more strict on this though, give their players a chance to play abroad, that could still be a huge exposure for them which can benefit to their local teams later on.

[blockman]

Those that are living a lavish life, well, I think 70k is still enough for them. But for someone who thinks of himself as a superstar with that salary, he shouldn't think of himself like that. AFAIK, the max cap for salary is 420k for any veteran and it's because of their PBA rule.
(https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/pba-study-group-proposes-lifting-of-salary-cap-on-rookies-a1374-20210629)

But probably they'll earn more if they are consistent in the Finals and of course more if they win the Finals. So maybe some players prefer to stay in the PBA despite the huge offers outside because they might be assured of their security in the future rather than playing outside where a player could only get a short term contract and of course high pressure since they are one of the imports.

Yeah, there could be some incentives for the whole team if they're in the finals and also the winner of it. It's a risk for those who are going to take the contract in other leagues like B League because it's higher and it's like having a one time big time paycheck.
Unlike in PBA, lower but longer term. I guess there's no difference but the career in B League is more ideal for the young ones who has chosen to play there.

[crzy]

But probably they'll earn more if they are consistent in the Finals and of course more if they win the Finals. So maybe some players prefer to stay in the PBA despite the huge offers outside because they might be assured of their security in the future rather than playing outside where a player could only get a short term contract and of course high pressure since they are one of the imports.

This could be scenario and that’s why every team is doing their best to go the finals since it is more rewarding for them to reach that position and also that could boost their morale. Some players are not allowed to play to other league though, that’s why they are staying with PBA and of course if they leave, they might not be able to join again. When this lockdown ends, hoping to see more new players to come in PBA.

That's always the scenario, every season there are new players added in the PBA as they are drafting players, but those players who are playing with Japan's B-League, I guess it will take time before they can come back especially if they are playing well in that league as the salary gap is very huge, they'll prefer to stay for sure.

Even if we are a better country compare to Japan, many of our local players still choose to play there and simply because the offer is too good to decline, beside PBA is full of politics most of the time, and we cannot blame those players who chooses to play abroad. PBA should not be more strict on this though, give their players a chance to play abroad, that could still be a huge exposure for them which can benefit to their local teams later on.

Players still have to respect their contract with PBA, and if their team didn’t allow them to play abroad, that’s fine at least you still have the chance to play. Our local teams can’t really afford to pay that much especially if you’re not the ace player so its not good to compare salaries since they all have different skills in basketball, lucky to those who can play abroad that means to me, other country sees their true potential. PBA is way better I believe, many still want to stay though.

[harizen]

PBA should not be more strict on this though, give their players a chance to play abroad,

They are not strict as long as "everything is on the contract". No breaching or anything else. Since when did PBA strict their players to go abroad? Do you mean the issue of Kiefer Ravena? His camp already admitted that they are the ones to blame for why PBA takes an action. Kiefer sign a contract before that he won't play abroad but look at how PBA still grants the request.

Or do you have any other examples?

[goinmerry]

But probably they'll earn more if they are consistent in the Finals and of course more if they win the Finals. So maybe some players prefer to stay in the PBA despite the huge offers outside because they might be assured of their security in the future rather than playing outside where a player could only get a short term contract and of course high pressure since they are one of the imports.

This could be scenario and that’s why every team is doing their best to go the finals since it is more rewarding for them to reach that position and also that could boost their morale. Some players are not allowed to play to other league though, that’s why they are staying with PBA and of course if they leave, they might not be able to join again. When this lockdown ends, hoping to see more new players to come in PBA.

It's not about players are not allowed but are these players even got an offer to play abroad?

Only those who are well-performing in the league are getting the offer and still, only a few got an offer. Even some PBA players want to play abroad, if the scout of other leagues is not interested, then it will remain as a dream.

Not aware of a not that popular in PBA that got an offer to play abroad.

[Japinat]

PBA should not be more strict on this though, give their players a chance to play abroad,

They are not strict as long as "everything is on the contract". No breaching or anything else. Since when did PBA strict their players to go abroad? Do you mean the issue of Kiefer Ravena? His camp already admitted that they are the ones to blame for why PBA takes an action. Kiefer sign a contract before that he won't play abroad but look at how PBA still grants the request.

Or do you have any other examples?

Exactly, I was thinking that Kiefer would not be able to play abroad but the PBA was so kind to allow him to play abroad. I guess they are supporting players in they want a greener pasture, in abroad they'll make more money but if you have a good record in the PBA you'll always have a home to return with if you are done abroad.