2022–23 PBA Commissioner's Cup

[Kelvinid]

Stop the topic about the "rigging" thing, let's create another topic for that. 

let's look at game 5, this will be on Saturday I think. I have not seen the schedule yet but seeing how Ginebra dominated game 4, I think they have the momentum now to win the series. Is it still -4.5 for the Boltz?

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[blockman]

Well, it has became a norm that whenever the finals come. There's like a "script" that's on going and the other team has to make way for them to tie the score and standings.
Seriously, it's really hard to go with the belief that has been being passed for a long time. Even I, I was in that belief before but realizing the intensity of the matches and the speculations that you've said. It's highly unlikely that any of them would really go on with that play for them to say that the game 4 was fixed.

Game-fixing issues are really involving every final but I doubt PBA will go as far as that just to extend the current series to Game 7. It will bring a negative impact on the league and that will hurt their reputation.

As far as my observation is concerned on this Finals, I don't understand why should we end up with game-fixing issues? The game is really played hard by both Ginebra and Meralco and what else can we do if they are in a 2-2 series now? Why should we link it to a game-fixing? They are playing on their own not influenced by someone or anything else.

I think there's one player that have said of this and he's been punished. It has just became a belief because it's like a pattern that we usually see. And that's what I think also before but I've got cleared and just let it be whatever is happening inside. I just want to enjoy this and it's sort of hard to accept when the fans are still believing on it whenever their favored team has lost.

Stop the topic about the "rigging" thing, let's create another topic for that. 

let's look at game 5, this will be on Saturday I think. I have not seen the schedule yet but seeing how Ginebra dominated game 4, I think they have the momentum now to win the series. Is it still -4.5 for the Boltz?

I agree, the next game will be on Sunday, 17.

[Japinat]

Stop the topic about the "rigging" thing, let's create another topic for that. 

let's look at game 5, this will be on Saturday I think. I have not seen the schedule yet but seeing how Ginebra dominated game 4, I think they have the momentum now to win the series. Is it still -4.5 for the Boltz?

I agree, the next game will be on Sunday, 17.

If the spread is -4.5, I will take the Meralco Bolts. If Ginebra wins, I think it will be a close game and they should not underestimate Meralco because they beat them already twice in the series. Japeth will still play but with limited minutes only, for sure Bolts have already prepared something for him.

Next game is April 17.. 6:30 PM
https://pba.ph/

[Shamm]

Stop the topic about the "rigging" thing, let's create another topic for that. 

let's look at game 5, this will be on Saturday I think. I have not seen the schedule yet but seeing how Ginebra dominated game 4, I think they have the momentum now to win the series. Is it still -4.5 for the Boltz?

I agree, the next game will be on Sunday, 17.

If the spread is -4.5, I will take the Meralco Bolts. If Ginebra wins, I think it will be a close game and they should not underestimate Meralco because they beat them already twice in the series. Japeth will still play but with limited minutes only, for sure Bolts have already prepared something for him.

Next game is April 17.. 6:30 PM
https://pba.ph/

In game four between ginebra San Miguel vs meralco bolts in the first half end a both 41 points and a very close fight from them but in the and half ginebra Dan Miguel use their starts and their imports ad well doing great with  Thompson and LA tenorio who carrying their teams into vector and the series will tied to 2-2 game 5 who will win?  Does ginebra will be win or meralco will win ?

[Hypnosis00]

<> game 5 who will win?  Does ginebra will be win or meralco will win ?

Hard to tell, just go with your prediction so you'll enjoy watching the game. Both teams have good rest days, they'll be fully recharged once the series will resume this coming someday, but I am expecting it will be a thrilling game as for sure the arena will be full again.

IIRC, the live attendance last game was over 17k.

[Shamm]

<> game 5 who will win?  Does ginebra will be win or meralco will win ?

Hard to tell, just go with your prediction so you'll enjoy watching the game. Both teams have good rest days, they'll be fully recharged once the series will resume this coming someday, but I am expecting it will be a thrilling game as for sure the arena will be full again.

IIRC, the live attendance last game was over 17k.

If this game will end until 7th and final game for sure the araneta will be full again of live audience who will want to watch the actual game and support their favorite team. 17k attendant its a big wow and a big number of attendance within we are still in pandemic and I think the setting capacity of araneta will not be enough if this game reach a do or die or game 7 .

[blockman]

Stop the topic about the "rigging" thing, let's create another topic for that. 

let's look at game 5, this will be on Saturday I think. I have not seen the schedule yet but seeing how Ginebra dominated game 4, I think they have the momentum now to win the series. Is it still -4.5 for the Boltz?

I agree, the next game will be on Sunday, 17.

If the spread is -4.5, I will take the Meralco Bolts. If Ginebra wins, I think it will be a close game and they should not underestimate Meralco because they beat them already twice in the series. Japeth will still play but with limited minutes only, for sure Bolts have already prepared something for him.

Next game is April 17.. 6:30 PM
https://pba.ph/

The series is currently tie and there's still a lot that can happen. Both teams shouldn't estimate each other and I guess that's their perspective. But when it comes to encouragement, in their minds, they're thinking that they're better than the other to boost their morale and that's important especially when they're already in the part of the finals which is very crucial and is about to end anytime soon proclaiming the champion for this conference.

[Kasabus]

Stop the topic about the "rigging" thing, let's create another topic for that. 

let's look at game 5, this will be on Saturday I think. I have not seen the schedule yet but seeing how Ginebra dominated game 4, I think they have the momentum now to win the series. Is it still -4.5 for the Boltz?

I agree, the next game will be on Sunday, 17.

If the spread is -4.5, I will take the Meralco Bolts. If Ginebra wins, I think it will be a close game and they should not underestimate Meralco because they beat them already twice in the series. Japeth will still play but with limited minutes only, for sure Bolts have already prepared something for him.

Next game is April 17.. 6:30 PM
https://pba.ph/

The series is currently tie and there's still a lot that can happen. Both teams shouldn't estimate each other and I guess that's their perspective. But when it comes to encouragement, in their minds, they're thinking that they're better than the other to boost their morale and that's important especially when they're already in the part of the finals which is very crucial and is about to end anytime soon proclaiming the champion for this conference.

It will be a best of 3 series now, they have already shown what they can do, however, I think the Ginebra has the advantage now because Japeth is already playing despite being limited on the floor. He inspires the team when he plays, so it's a big + for the Kings and Meralco needs to find a way to counter that.

[Kelvinid]

It will be a best of 3 series now, they have already shown what they can do, however, I think the Ginebra has the advantage now because Japeth is already playing despite being limited on the floor. He inspires the team when he plays, so it's a big + for the Kings and Meralco needs to find a way to counter that.

Yes, it will be, and Meralco has to take the lead in the series if they don't want to handle all the pressure because we all know that once Ginebra will lead first, they will always find a way to close the series early. I know it's tough but I trust the Meralco could handle the Ginebra as they already found a way to beat them.

[Fredomago]

It will be a best of 3 series now, they have already shown what they can do, however, I think the Ginebra has the advantage now because Japeth is already playing despite being limited on the floor. He inspires the team when he plays, so it's a big + for the Kings and Meralco needs to find a way to counter that.

Yes, it will be, and Meralco has to take the lead in the series if they don't want to handle all the pressure because we all know that once Ginebra will lead first, they will always find a way to close the series early. I know it's tough but I trust the Meralco could handle the Ginebra as they already found a way to beat them.

Japeth still have that influence within the team, knowing that he's around the players are motivated knowing that there's someone inside that will helps to grab the ball back, though it's though it's limited but still good impact to bring more boost with his teammates, game 5 still unclear still everyone's ball game.

The one that shows more team plays will earn the win for sure. It's a battle between a good system and executions.

[Kasabus]

It will be a best of 3 series now, they have already shown what they can do, however, I think the Ginebra has the advantage now because Japeth is already playing despite being limited on the floor. He inspires the team when he plays, so it's a big + for the Kings and Meralco needs to find a way to counter that.

Yes, it will be, and Meralco has to take the lead in the series if they don't want to handle all the pressure because we all know that once Ginebra will lead first, they will always find a way to close the series early. I know it's tough but I trust the Meralco could handle the Ginebra as they already found a way to beat them.

Japeth still have that influence within the team, knowing that he's around the players are motivated knowing that there's someone inside that will helps to grab the ball back, though it's though it's limited but still good impact to bring more boost with his teammates, game 5 still unclear still everyone's ball game.

The one that shows more team plays will earn the win for sure. It's a battle between a good system and executions.

Coach Black mentioned that every time they'll face the Gin Kings in the Finals, they always lose, so I'm sure they will try to find a way to win. Japeth is not getting his number due to limited minutes, and he is also very careful that he won't reinjure himself, so expect that Meralco will be more physical in game 5 since it's a very important game for them.

[goinmerry]

It will be a best of 3 series now, they have already shown what they can do, however, I think the Ginebra has the advantage now because Japeth is already playing despite being limited on the floor. He inspires the team when he plays, so it's a big + for the Kings and Meralco needs to find a way to counter that.

No. There's no advantage at both teams. They are both equal in roster now. Japeth Aguilar reinjured his injury on Game 4. Even he will manage to play, don't expect him to be the game-changer for the Ginebra. If the team will still push the plan of playing Aguilar on Game , he might just become a burden for the team instead of helping them.

Continuing to play will result of a much worst condition and Coach Tim Cone should already know that.

They just have to allow Japeth to rest until Game 7 - the finals series of the match and the last game for Governor's Cup.

[Vaculin]

It will be a best of 3 series now, they have already shown what they can do, however, I think the Ginebra has the advantage now because Japeth is already playing despite being limited on the floor. He inspires the team when he plays, so it's a big + for the Kings and Meralco needs to find a way to counter that.

No. There's no advantage at both teams. They are both equal in roster now. Japeth Aguilar reinjured his injury on Game 4. Even he will manage to play, don't expect him to be the game-changer for the Ginebra. If the team will still push the plan of playing Aguilar on Game , he might just become a burden for the team instead of helping them.

Continuing to play will result of a much worst condition and Coach Tim Cone should already know that.

Game 7 it is, I guess we will be seeing that based on the way the teams are playing. Looks so scripted to me  TBH, but at the same time, it's exciting to watch as both teams have really shown their capability to win. Thompson and Brownlee received an award last game, which probably inspired them to play harder to even the series, but comes game 5, can we still see that great performance by Thompson?

They just have to allow Japeth to rest until Game 7 - the finals series of the match and the last game for Governor's Cup.

They'll have to re-evaluate the situation, they cannot afford to risk Japeth's health when the team can win without him.


BTW, Tenorio understands well the current series.
https://pba.ph/news/tenorio-on-govs-cup-finals-it-s-a-chess-match

[agustina2]

Game 7 it is, I guess we will be seeing that based on the way the teams are playing. Looks so scripted to me  TBH, but at the same time, it's exciting to watch as both teams have really shown their capability to win.

If the series will end at Game 7, it looks scripted to you? Can you explain? Is that the basis to called the series scripted if it's reached Game 7? Therefore, you are saying that all series match should not reached Game 7 to prove to people that the game is not scripted? Since when reaching Game 7 becomes a sinful activity for both teams? Are they not allowed to reach the Final stage? If the series closed at Game 4 or 5, we can now call the series as not scripted? Sick to see this scripted or game-fixing where they didn't even watch the game.

As a spectator that claiming it looks scripted, you should give example on where you think the game becomes scripted. Don't just accused without specifying the parts of the game where the actual script is now taking place.

[Shamm]

It will be a best of 3 series now, they have already shown what they can do, however, I think the Ginebra has the advantage now because obj is already playing despite being limited on the floor. He inspires the team when he plays, so it's a big + for the Kings and Meralco needs to find a way to counter that.

No. There's no advantage at both teams. They are both equal in roster now. Japeth Aguilar reinjured his injury on Game 4. Even he will manage to play, don't expect him to be the game-changer for the Ginebra. If the team will still push the plan of playing Aguilar on Game , he might just become a burden for the team instead of helping them.

Continuing to play will result of a much worst condition and Coach Tim Cone should already know that.

Game 7 it is, I guess we will be seeing that based on the way the teams are playing. Looks so scripted to me  TBH, but at the same time, it's exciting to watch as both teams have really shown their capability to win. Thompson and Brownlee received an award last game, which probably inspired them to play harder to even the series, but comes game 5, can we still see that great performance by Thompson?

They just have to allow Japeth to rest until Game 7 - the finals series of the match and the last game for Governor's Cup.

They'll have to re-evaluate the situation, they cannot afford to risk Japeth's health when the team can win without him.


BTW, Tenorio understands well the current series.
https://pba.ph/news/tenorio-on-govs-cup-finals-it-s-a-chess-match

Wait what, did you mean that this game is scripted if it will end up in game 7? Anyways we have different perspectives in life But for me, this is not a scripted game cause in the first place they have different owner both company are aiming to win and become a champion to their promotion. Second I will not say that this is scripted because it takes game 7 but all I we can see is that an intense/close match between this two company.

[Maslate]

As a spectator that claiming it looks scripted, you should give example on where you think the game becomes scripted. Don't just accused without specifying the parts of the game where the actual script is now taking place.

Can't blame people saying the game is scripted, it's their personal opinion only.

Personally, I see some games that look scripted but I keep it myself only as it's hard to convince people without evidence.
Even in the NBA, some say that games are rigged but there is no evidence, all are just speculations, actually, you can search on youtube if you are interested in seeing some conspiracy theory, so if it could happen in NBA, for sure it is could also happen in a local basketball league.

Just forget about the "scripted" thing because it will only result in a non-stop debate.
Let's talk about the next game instead.

[Johnyz]

Wait what, did you mean that this game is scripted if it will end up in game 7? Anyways we have different perspectives in life But for me, this is not a scripted game cause in the first place they have different owner both company are aiming to win and become a champion to their promotion. Second I will not say that this is scripted because it takes game 7 but all I we can see is that an intense/close match between this two company.

Technically, there no script on every game because every players have their own roles with team and yes they are owned by different company and I don’t think they will enter into such deal that could affect their own reputation, let’s end this rumor and just focus on the games. Every players are doing their best to give a win for their team, if there’s a game 7 that is because of their hard work.

[blockman]

The series is currently tie and there's still a lot that can happen. Both teams shouldn't estimate each other and I guess that's their perspective. But when it comes to encouragement, in their minds, they're thinking that they're better than the other to boost their morale and that's important especially when they're already in the part of the finals which is very crucial and is about to end anytime soon proclaiming the champion for this conference.

It will be a best of 3 series now, they have already shown what they can do, however, I think the Ginebra has the advantage now because Japeth is already playing despite being limited on the floor. He inspires the team when he plays, so it's a big + for the Kings and Meralco needs to find a way to counter that.

Yeah much likely.
As you have mentioned Japeth, he has reinjured himself. They're at the advantage but we don't know if this is going to attack Japeth once again and that's no good sign for them.
It's possible that he would just play for few minutes and then it's not going to be good for him to play anymore because he starts to feel it again.

[goaldigger]

Wait what, did you mean that this game is scripted if it will end up in game 7? Anyways we have different perspectives in life But for me, this is not a scripted game cause in the first place they have different owner both company are aiming to win and become a champion to their promotion. Second I will not say that this is scripted because it takes game 7 but all I we can see is that an intense/close match between this two company.

Technically, there no script on every game because every players have their own roles with team and yes they are owned by different company and I don’t think they will enter into such deal that could affect their own reputation, let’s end this rumor and just focus on the games. Every players are doing their best to give a win for their team, if there’s a game 7 that is because of their hard work.

We don’t really know what’s going on in the back office, this may be possible but no one knows.
Its better to focus on the game and just bet every single games, we still have few games left this conference will end so just enjoy it guys and go support your teams. Game 7 is still ok, at least the fans can see more intense actions with those players. I’ll just leave it here, stop my own speculation as well. Looking for the good odds for the next game, we’re near to the end.

[Shamm]

The series is currently tie and there's still a lot that can happen. Both teams shouldn't estimate each other and I guess that's their perspective. But when it comes to encouragement, in their minds, they're thinking that they're better than the other to boost their morale and that's important especially when they're already in the part of the finals which is very crucial and is about to end anytime soon proclaiming the champion for this conference.

It will be a best of 3 series now, they have already shown what they can do, however, I think the Ginebra has the advantage now because Japeth is already playing despite being limited on the floor. He inspires the team when he plays, so it's a big + for the Kings and Meralco needs to find a way to counter that.

Yeah much likely.
As you have mentioned Japeth, he has reinjured himself. They're at the advantage but we don't know if this is going to attack Japeth once again and that's no good sign for them.
It's possible that he would just play for a few minutes and then it's not going to be good for him to play anymore because he starts to feel it again.

About jupeth Aguilar yes he can play but not just good unlike in his previous gameplay without being injured but it's a big advantage for the team cause like you said above if Japheth plays on the court his team gets motivated and have the potential to win against Meralco but not just easy cause we all know that Meralco is not an easy one the players are strong enough and this match is more interesting to watch. All our doubts will be answered during the match all we can do is put our bet that we feel will win.