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Question: What team will win the PBA 2021 All Filipino Conference?
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August 06, 2025, 12:44:34 PM
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Do you guys think the PBA is taking it personally? The PBA is imposing a 3yr ban on draftees who don’t sign and expiring players who join other leagues. For me, that’s a very bitter move, a baby boomer move. They can’t take it when players go abroad to play and don’t choose the PBA, so now they’re imposing a 3yr ban. For what? To make players think twice or stop them from going abroad? LOL. It’s like they don’t want others to seek better opportunities. No brainer, of course, these days, if there’s a better opportunity, you go and grab it.
There is no competition in the pba, at the same time, teams are farming on lower teams, then putting it on the main team, i think players wan't to play the level of play that they will not think of the sister team, at the same time with good pay, and good organization, if ever im the player ill choose abroad, with high level , and good pay, for sure ill grow there, look at the gilas team against the taipei, they don't want to play players not in the pba, young players are bench even the first 5 don't play good, im saying coach is great but, he insist on playing only pba player throughout the game

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August 06, 2025, 01:15:20 PM
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Do you guys think the PBA is taking it personally? The PBA is imposing a 3yr ban on draftees who don’t sign and expiring players who join other leagues. For me, that’s a very bitter move, a baby boomer move. They can’t take it when players go abroad to play and don’t choose the PBA, so now they’re imposing a 3yr ban. For what? To make players think twice or stop them from going abroad? LOL. It’s like they don’t want others to seek better opportunities. No brainer, of course, these days, if there’s a better opportunity, you go and grab it.

Yes they taking it personally and the official of that league is so desperate to chase the young talents and make them doubt to go abroad. The fact that PBA is struggling to get viewership I guess they are doing that to maintain their league.

But I doubt young players would follow especially that they have a good chance to showcase their talent there and also could able to get more better pay checks. There are so many farm teams in PBA and it will be a waste of talent if those talented players in Philippines would let those manipulators and dictators on PBA to control them.

Going abroad still a best option and if they got banned from PBA players can still play on MPBL.

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August 06, 2025, 05:34:13 PM
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Do you guys think the PBA is taking it personally? The PBA is imposing a 3yr ban on draftees who don’t sign and expiring players who join other leagues. For me, that’s a very bitter move, a baby boomer move. They can’t take it when players go abroad to play and don’t choose the PBA, so now they’re imposing a 3yr ban. For what? To make players think twice or stop them from going abroad? LOL. It’s like they don’t want others to seek better opportunities. No brainer, of course, these days, if there’s a better opportunity, you go and grab it.

Yes they taking it personally and the official of that league is so desperate to chase the young talents and make them doubt to go abroad. The fact that PBA is struggling to get viewership I guess they are doing that to maintain their league.

But I doubt young players would follow especially that they have a good chance to showcase their talent there and also could able to get more better pay checks. There are so many farm teams in PBA and it will be a waste of talent if those talented players in Philippines would let those manipulators and dictators on PBA to control them.

Going abroad still a best option and if they got banned from PBA players can still play on MPBL.

Yeah right, if PBA imposed this kind of ban those young stars who still choose to play abroad always have another option, MBPL also got some decent offers though not as decent as PBA teams can offer but still good enough if you just want to play at home, and same with what you said playing abroad still the best option if opportunity open its doors, that huge amount of contract that can cater a 3 year rookie contract inside PBA, a young star can acquire it just given a chance to sign abroad.

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August 06, 2025, 09:18:39 PM
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Yeah right, if PBA imposed this kind of ban those young stars who still choose to play abroad always have another option, MBPL also got some decent offers though not as decent as PBA teams can offer but still good enough if you just want to play at home, and same with what you said playing abroad still the best option if opportunity open its doors, that huge amount of contract that can cater a 3 year rookie contract inside PBA, a young star can acquire it just given a chance to sign abroad.

I think this is their way of trying to keep players from leaving. We can’t really blame them since a lot of talents are signing contracts abroad, and when those deals expire or they don’t get re-signed, they just come back to play in the PBA again. So far, I’ve only seen Bollick return, but I guess the PBA wants to send a message that it’s not just a training ground, it’s supposed to be a serious league, even if the salaries sometimes feel like they’re only for practice players.
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August 06, 2025, 09:40:06 PM
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Our team has lost. Tim Cone regret that he has put KQ in the bench. Anyway, aside from this bad news of lose against Chinese Taipei.
That’s tough, they lost to Chinese Taipei, so how much more against the powerhouse teams? I feel like our journey might end soon, we could even lose to New Zealand next. And JMF really took a lot of criticism for this one, he had a rough game. Hard to believe the best player in the PBA could play that bad here.
Don't lose hope, let's just support our team and they've been there always and we should always be there for us too. I know that New Zealand is strong but let's cheer for them to win. As for Junemar's game, it's not always good with having 2 points and it's hard to be honest. But hopefully, CTC have learnt that the young ones should have been given more playing time like KQ.

The PBA has imposed a three-year ban for the players that didn't renew their contracts because they chose to play overseas and mostly with KBL and BLeague. What a personal matter that the PBA is doing to these players that have found a greener pasture than the PBA.
(https://www.spin.ph/basketball/pba/three-year-ban-awaits-pba-players-leaving-for-other-leagues-a793-20250805)

LOL, PBA is getting desperate. Instead of stepping up and competing with other leagues, they resort to threatening players who are just trying to find a better opportunity elsewhere.
That's what they know what to do to prevent players going to other leagues. They should be proud that Philippine basketball players are imported, right?

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August 06, 2025, 11:57:56 PM
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Going abroad still a best option and if they got banned from PBA players can still play on MPBL.

Still the PBA is losing in this scenario if ever they play in the MPBL right after their stint in the overseas league. The commissioner should think of a good way on how to stop or minimize players on playing abroad. We all knew that money is the issue here so they've got to offer players who are talented enough so that they will stay.

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But despite these, I believe they will still continue to have games upcoming.

Any ideas when the regular season will start again? I'm also curious about some import rumors now, such as potential changes or new imports from different teams.

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August 07, 2025, 01:45:30 AM
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Speaking of PBA guys, seems PBA is already too much  Cheesy
But despite these, I believe they will still continue to have games upcoming.

Any ideas when the regular season will start again? I'm also curious about some import rumors now, such as potential changes or new imports from different teams.
Maybe October? I'm not sure but I'm just going to watch semis and finals no need to watch regular games specially if its just with the low teams i mean, they are just the farm team if they perform well those players improve will be just traded, or give up on the semis just to give way to the sister team, trade should be change it will not allow it but Chua is already running the show, conflict of interest is all over the place.

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Speaking of PBA guys, seems PBA is already too much  Cheesy
But despite these, I believe they will still continue to have games upcoming.

Any ideas when the regular season will start again? I'm also curious about some import rumors now, such as potential changes or new imports from different teams.

I read something, bro, that the opening of the 50th season of the PBA is on October 5, so it'll be quite a while before we can bet on their games again.
Talking about imports, there’s not much news except for Chris McCullough, the former import of San Miguel Beer who won a championship. Apparently, he wants to return to SMB and said he’ll reach out to them about it.
Justin Brownlee and RHJ are definitely returning to Ginebra and TNT.

Are there already odds for the Gilas vs. New Zealand game later?

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August 07, 2025, 09:39:16 AM
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Guys, just a gentle reminder, please keep the discussion in English since we’re not in our local board.

About the Gilas game tonight against New Zealand, the line is +9.5. I’m not sure if they can bounce back after that loss to a lower-ranked team, so I’m really skeptical here. The over might be the safer option, especially since Gilas doesn’t really play solid defense anymore, and their big men especially Junemar has struggle on the last game resulting to a very poor performance.
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August 07, 2025, 07:36:18 PM
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Guys, just a gentle reminder, please keep the discussion in English since we’re not in our local board.

About the Gilas game tonight against New Zealand, the line is +9.5. I’m not sure if they can bounce back after that loss to a lower-ranked team, so I’m really skeptical here. The over might be the safer option, especially since Gilas doesn’t really play solid defense anymore, and their big men especially Junemar has struggle on the last game resulting to a very poor performance.

Another lost for Gilas, I did not watch the game just saw it online for the final score though those who took that handicap wins the bet as NZL only wins by 8 points, still I guess missing a big man like Kai really affects the performance of the whole squad, his presence really adding big impact to the team, though team gilas still trying their best hopefully they'll be able to win their next game.

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August 07, 2025, 08:45:27 PM
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Another lost for Gilas, I did not watch the game just saw it online for the final score though those who took that handicap wins the bet as NZL only wins by 8 points, still I guess missing a big man like Kai really affects the performance of the whole squad, his presence really adding big impact to the team, though team gilas still trying their best hopefully they'll be able to win their next game.
Just enough for them to cover the spread, and yeah, I agree with you. Kai was a huge loss for the team, and without him, they’re clearly not as competitive as before. Remember during the FIBA World Cup qualifiers? They had a strong start, but once Kai got injured, they couldn’t win anymore. His presence gave the team solid interior defense, and now that’s gone.

So far, we’re 0-2. The next game needs to be a win, no more excuses.

 
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August 08, 2025, 12:41:30 AM
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Another lost for Gilas, I did not watch the game just saw it online for the final score though those who took that handicap wins the bet as NZL only wins by 8 points, still I guess missing a big man like Kai really affects the performance of the whole squad, his presence really adding big impact to the team, though team gilas still trying their best hopefully they'll be able to win their next game.

Same here, i didn't watch the game live as i have doubts that Gilas will win versus the taller New Zealand team.
Definitely, they missed the services of Kai Sotto but still it was a good game just unfortunate that the comeback fell short.

The game against Iraq is a must win situation for them as that team is very beatable as they don't have a lot of naturalized players. T will bet for Gilas this time even if the odds is high as i think they will bounce back strong and cover the spread.

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August 08, 2025, 02:30:45 AM
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Another lost for Gilas, I did not watch the game just saw it online for the final score though those who took that handicap wins the bet as NZL only wins by 8 points, still I guess missing a big man like Kai really affects the performance of the whole squad, his presence really adding big impact to the team, though team gilas still trying their best hopefully they'll be able to win their next game.
Just enough for them to cover the spread, and yeah, I agree with you. Kai was a huge loss for the team, and without him, they’re clearly not as competitive as before. Remember during the FIBA World Cup qualifiers? They had a strong start, but once Kai got injured, they couldn’t win anymore. His presence gave the team solid interior defense, and now that’s gone.

So far, we’re 0-2. The next game needs to be a win, no more excuses.

They need a win to move forward and keep that hope alive, if they continue losing these squad may suffer and won't be able to move forward, can't say anything about the team as they put everything in, just lack of inside presence as both Fajardo and Edu are not filling that spot the way Kai was.

Another lost for Gilas, I did not watch the game just saw it online for the final score though those who took that handicap wins the bet as NZL only wins by 8 points, still I guess missing a big man like Kai really affects the performance of the whole squad, his presence really adding big impact to the team, though team gilas still trying their best hopefully they'll be able to win their next game.

Same here, i didn't watch the game live as i have doubts that Gilas will win versus the taller New Zealand team.
Definitely, they missed the services of Kai Sotto but still it was a good game just unfortunate that the comeback fell short.

The game against Iraq is a must win situation for them as that team is very beatable as they don't have a lot of naturalized players. T will bet for Gilas this time even if the odds is high as i think they will bounce back strong and cover the spread.

I agree to that Kabayan, it's a must win if they want to continue their quest though still a tough game but hopng we will see good result on this upcoming game, Good Luck Kabayan!

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So this is what is going to happen if Gilas beat Iraq.

GILAS DILEMMA: early exit or a possible quarterfinal vs Australia

Sure, they might be able to extend the game a bit, but realistically, they have no chance against Australia. And this might be personal for the Aussies.. remember the brawl in Manila? Australia hasn’t forgotten that.

They’ll probably go all out, not just to win, but to embarrass Gilas and send a message to the world that our basketball level is still far behind.

 
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August 08, 2025, 11:25:16 AM
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So this is what is going to happen if Gilas beat Iraq.

GILAS DILEMMA: early exit or a possible quarterfinal vs Australia

Sure, they might be able to extend the game a bit, but realistically, they have no chance against Australia. And this might be personal for the Aussies.. remember the brawl in Manila? Australia hasn’t forgotten that.

They’ll probably go all out, not just to win, but to embarrass Gilas and send a message to the world that our basketball level is still far behind.

Of course, there’s no chance against Australia, I can’t even remember a time Gilas ever beat them. So no need to expect much there.
But with this Iraq team, I think Gilas has a good shot. The current line even favors them to win.

The game’s tomorrow at 4 PM, and here are the betting lines:

Gilas -19.5 vs Iraq +19.5
Total points: 169.5

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August 09, 2025, 04:19:02 AM
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The game’s tomorrow at 4 PM, and here are the betting lines:

Gilas -19.5 vs Iraq +19.5
Total points: 169.5


It seems there’s no line movement on this game. Bookies are sticking firmly to giving Iraq that high handicap.
And yes, this is later at 4 PM, not too early anymore, so we can all watch it since it’s Saturday. Some of us don’t have work, or we can head out early if we don’t want to miss it. By the way, Iraq is at x10 on the moneyline, anyone thinking of taking that crazy bet? Considering Gilas has been struggling, they might lose again.

 
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Gilas survives the Do Or Die match against Iraq and will advance to the qualification to the quarterfinal phase of the FIBA Asia Cup tournament.

GILAS 66
IRAQ 57

Will probably face the host Saudi Arabia next, as I'm sure the host country will beat India in their game later.

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August 09, 2025, 11:13:22 AM
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The game’s tomorrow at 4 PM, and here are the betting lines:

Gilas -19.5 vs Iraq +19.5
Total points: 169.5


It seems there’s no line movement on this game. Bookies are sticking firmly to giving Iraq that high handicap.
And yes, this is later at 4 PM, not too early anymore, so we can all watch it since it’s Saturday. Some of us don’t have work, or we can head out early if we don’t want to miss it. By the way, Iraq is at x10 on the moneyline, anyone thinking of taking that crazy bet? Considering Gilas has been struggling, they might lose again.


I missed the betting on this, If i just saw this earlier i will bet for the IRAQ, 19.5 is a good handicap as the Gilas is  really struggling with their chemistry,
But i saw  the game at half time already with 33 all in the game. Thankful that the Gilas Pinas went good on their 3RD Q and got 15 points lead to end the 3rd and complete the game with a W.
On to the next battle, and KEEP WINNING PINAS!!!

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August 09, 2025, 11:43:37 AM
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The game’s tomorrow at 4 PM, and here are the betting lines:

Gilas -19.5 vs Iraq +19.5
Total points: 169.5


It seems there’s no line movement on this game. Bookies are sticking firmly to giving Iraq that high handicap.
And yes, this is later at 4 PM, not too early anymore, so we can all watch it since it’s Saturday. Some of us don’t have work, or we can head out early if we don’t want to miss it. By the way, Iraq is at x10 on the moneyline, anyone thinking of taking that crazy bet? Considering Gilas has been struggling, they might lose again.


Those who bets for Iraq's handicap they surely enjoying their profits knowing that Gilas is struggling and with that high handicap more or less there are gamblers who will take that, not sure though if in here there's high risk gambler who'll take that ML for team Iraq, congrats to those who manage to win those who take ML for Gilas who place huge amount of stake, still profits I guess if in terms of taking benefits,.

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